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Heya Minty here =D , Just sat here with a question
Now probably most of the devs here know that Froyo is 450% faster then Eclair
My question :
Are there any plans of getting Froyo on the HTC black*sheit*stone *coughcough* ?
And if so Is it going to run like hell or wha =D ?
Thanks =^.^=
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Minty
thatd b f§$%in mint!!! =D
You can find the Review of the Froyo Android benchmarked with linpack >>Here<<<
And @ N!ghty Yeah it would be fecking Mint =D !
well, lets hope that someone will attend to the job then X=) :drool:
I kind of really hope so too =D , Now we all need is a Rom wich u just can flash on the HD , Instead of the Haret winmo Kernel killer, and i'm not getting rid of my blackbrick
It's not even close to 450% faster.
Don't believe all you read.
That test done at AndroidPolice.com is a single and not very significant benchmark. It's a program doing floating point math with matrices. This is not a representative example of the apps used on android phones.
Of course it's faster, Froyo uses JIT compiler, so the code is compiled once and the ran multiple times in native form. The standard java compiler has to translate the code everytime. There are other things that will influence the performance, like having good drivers and allow some apps and codecs to run native code.
The current situation is similar to what Microsoft intended to do with Windows NT, putting all third party code, including drivers, on a layer above the kernel. So that a faulty driver could not take the system down. But this lead to slow framerates on gaming, so people kept gaming under MS-DOS and not Windows. Microsoft had to allow some things so gaming was possible in Windows.
i also noticed the test was done using a google nexus one with a 1ghz processor, not on something like a hero that has the same 528mhz processor that our blackstone has.
Ofcourse, You're all right thats true, i just wish Google or HTC would release an official version of android for our blackbricks that would be killer, or release ALL info about the chipsets and radios used in our bricks =D *hey, we can all dream right ? * hehe
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Ofcourse, You're all right thats true, i just wish Google or HTC would release an official version of android for our blackbricks that would be killer, or release ALL info about the chipsets and radios used in our bricks =D *hey, we can all dream right ? * hehe
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yeah, but they rather dont give a **** about ppl trying to put android on a winmo phone of theirs... its simply uneconomical
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yeah, but they rather dont give a **** about ppl trying to put android on a winmo phone of theirs... its simply uneconomical
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Quite right... and fair on HTC's part too. How are they supposed to just dream up a bunch of developers and testers to do a port? and then... they have to go through all the operator approval tests again... remember the operators subsidised the phones in many regions with the expectation for WinMo, not Android.
Folks just don't understand that a 'phone' is not just a phone.... it's a massive part of a whole telecoms industry that's VERY political and full of competition.
It's just not realistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with enhancements unless the business model is like Apple's where the entire ecosystem is around the apps and services (read Advertising).
Thanks everyone , i'm just thinking that i would go and get the new iPhone june/july , Registered as a dev there and for android too shame that HTC wouldn't do things like that but it could be expected obviously
Thanks everyone
Yeh, because going to an even more closed off platform is clearly the answer.
Thats why all those 1st gen iPhone's running on iPhoneOS 4.0... oh wait...
An android platform is hackable, so even if there isn't any official support, someone can mod it. I'm happily running 2.1 on my HTC Magic even though it's only supported at 1.6, I'm sure there will be a 2.2 release.
Quite right...
Apple do a sterling job of marketing and making very very good products appear to be out of this world products.
However, the facts are:
1) It's a closed platform
2) It's low resolution (but hides it well)
3) It is the most responsive UI in the world
4) It doesn't multitask well, not even in V4 which improves matters, but isn't WinMo
5) The functionality is superficially wonderful, below the surface it's limited.
6) Hacking is possible, but the customisation options are generally poor (accepted that folks are porting Android to it)
7) Apple's policy of 'our way, or go away' has merits. It does improve UI consistency, and the overall consistency of the product.... but it stifles innovation and has a very ugly habit of killing of competitive software that Apple doesn't want to give ground to.
For me, WinMo is STILL the best all round smartphone OS, but the UI sucks. And still sucks on WM7.
Symbian is slowly dying (too late for Nokia to save it now)
Android is interesting, on most of the best products at the moment, but still lagging behind WinMo in functionality, streets ahead in attractive UI, a little ahead in usable UI
For me, Android's the most likely to improve. The dev community is moving to it en-mass, and Microsoft still manage to clutch mediocrity from the jaws of greatness.
Apple will eventually discover what Nokia discovered... people just grow tired of the best device and want something new and different. Once everyone's got an iPhone, they want something different...
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Quite right...
Apple do a sterling job of marketing and making very very good products appear to be out of this world products.
However, the facts are:
1) It's a closed platform
2) It's low resolution (but hides it well)
3) It is the most responsive UI in the world
4) It doesn't multitask well, not even in V4 which improves matters, but isn't WinMo
5) The functionality is superficially wonderful, below the surface it's limited.
6) Hacking is possible, but the customisation options are generally poor (accepted that folks are porting Android to it)
7) Apple's policy of 'our way, or go away' has merits. It does improve UI consistency, and the overall consistency of the product.... but it stifles innovation and has a very ugly habit of killing of competitive software that Apple doesn't want to give ground to.
For me, WinMo is STILL the best all round smartphone OS, but the UI sucks. And still sucks on WM7.
Symbian is slowly dying (too late for Nokia to save it now)
Android is interesting, on most of the best products at the moment, but still lagging behind WinMo in functionality, streets ahead in attractive UI, a little ahead in usable UI
For me, Android's the most likely to improve. The dev community is moving to it en-mass, and Microsoft still manage to clutch mediocrity from the jaws of greatness.
Apple will eventually discover what Nokia discovered... people just grow tired of the best device and want something new and different. Once everyone's got an iPhone, they want something different...[/QUOTE
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Yeah I couldn't agree more
the one and only
then one and only WinMo :
Fo shizzle my nizzle, LOL
@ontopic, Its such a shame that WM7 is not going to be availible for ours even too ( such a waiste and a shame
TheBrilliantMistake said:
Quite right...
Apple do a sterling job of marketing and making very very good products appear to be out of this world products.
However, the facts are:
1) It's a closed platform
2) It's low resolution (but hides it well)
3) It is the most responsive UI in the world
4) It doesn't multitask well, not even in V4 which improves matters, but isn't WinMo
5) The functionality is superficially wonderful, below the surface it's limited.
6) Hacking is possible, but the customisation options are generally poor (accepted that folks are porting Android to it)
7) Apple's policy of 'our way, or go away' has merits. It does improve UI consistency, and the overall consistency of the product.... but it stifles innovation and has a very ugly habit of killing of competitive software that Apple doesn't want to give ground to.
For me, WinMo is STILL the best all round smartphone OS, but the UI sucks. And still sucks on WM7.
Symbian is slowly dying (too late for Nokia to save it now)
Android is interesting, on most of the best products at the moment, but still lagging behind WinMo in functionality, streets ahead in attractive UI, a little ahead in usable UI
For me, Android's the most likely to improve. The dev community is moving to it en-mass, and Microsoft still manage to clutch mediocrity from the jaws of greatness.
Apple will eventually discover what Nokia discovered... people just grow tired of the best device and want something new and different. Once everyone's got an iPhone, they want something different...
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A very board view. and true.
I'm living it differently. I own an Ipod Touch 1.0 gen (jailbreak), Touch Diamond 500 with Win 6.5 modded and I'm desperately and impatiently awaiting THE BATTERY FIX, lol, so that my batt can last all day on xdandroid 2.01. xdandroid is awsome!
What do you think about it?
well does any knows what's confirmed in android 3.0?
not really..
so how does one compare?
Now WebOS 2.0 is a different story
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Now WebOS 2.0 is a different story
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How so? Does it come on a phone somebody wants to buy?
Release wise or the OS themselves? We'll have to wait until all three get released. As long as they all perform well then it will most likely be all down to personal preferences.
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How so? Does it come on a phone somebody wants to buy?
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Good point. That's what really holding this OS back, however things may change next year.
To me UI isn't Google's strong suit. Google is good at minimalism, Chrome is a good example. But if it's anything more intricate & complicated then Google's UIs become less intuitive. Google Buzz, Wave, even youtube and google.com itself can be an utter disaster at times. I don't have experience with G-Mail or Orkut to comment.
Only recently has MS start providing better UI expeirences. Aero, MS Ribbons (highly debated but I like that it's touch friendly), Zune/MS Games UIs, Metro. The Entertainment Division does seem to be leading the way in terms of cutting edge UIs. But they're ahead of Google in that department.
I won't say it's impossible for Google to make a cutting edge UI, I'm sure they have alot of talent in that area, I just haven't seen it translated into a product line yet.
Edit: I assume this is a UI & integration discussion, because in terms of raw features Android already beats wp7.
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To me UI isn't Google's strong suit. Google is good at minimalism, Chrome is a good example. But if it's anything more intricate & complicated then Google's UIs become less intuitive. Google Buzz, Wave, even youtube and google.com itself can be an utter disaster at times. I don't have experience with G-Mail or Orkut to comment.
Only recently has MS start providing better UI expeirences. Aero, MS Ribbons (highly debated but I like that it's touch friendly), Zune/MS Games UIs, Metro. The Entertainment Division does seem to be leading the way in terms of cutting edge UIs. But they're ahead of Google in that department.
I won't say it's impossible for Google to make a cutting edge UI, I'm sure they have alot of talent in that area, I just haven't seen it translated into a product line yet.
Edit: I assume this is a UI & integration discussion, because in terms of raw features Android already beats wp7.
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They're hired the WebOS designers (after they left Palm following the takeover by HP) so presumably they will front the UI design.
i really don't get people saying Android 3.0 is going to be better than anything on the market. Well show me how it interacts, what changed, did UI get better? Just do not hope it will be, show us soem proof. I can't find anywhere that shows 3.0. To my understanding, 3.0 is just an updated version that will be suitable for tablets.
^ No proof of anything right now for 3.0. You can find tablets running every version of Android. The Samsung Galaxy Tab looks nice.
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i really don't get people saying Android 3.0 is going to be better than anything on the market. Well show me how it interacts, what changed, did UI get better? Just do not hope it will be, show us soem proof. I can't find anywhere that shows 3.0. To my understanding, 3.0 is just an updated version that will be suitable for tablets.
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And probably incompatible with current handsets. Not too long ago people were drooling over the Hero, legend, moment but lets see if those devices get the latest android OS. No thanks, I've been held hostage by HTC long enough, dont want my device obsolete right after it leaves the factory.
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^ No proof of anything right now for 3.0. You can find tablets running every version of Android. The Samsung Galaxy Tab looks nice.
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I'm starting to see reports that Gingerbread isn't even 3.0 as most of us assumed. It's saying that Gingerbread is another 2.x, and HoneyComb will be the 3.0. It's still all hearsay though.
btw...who exactly is the one with a sweet-tooth at google?
I can't wait to see both Win Phone 7 and Gingerbread completed.
Mobile operating systems are so diverse, complex and multifaceted these days that you just cannot say one "beats" the other. It all depends on personal preferences and requirements.
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Mobile operating systems are so diverse, complex and multifaceted these days that you just cannot say one "beats" the other. It all depends on personal preferences and requirements.
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This thread will beat others?
Why everything has to be competition?
What is better?
What is faster?
Both OS will have it´s good points and bad as well, it will be just matter of preferences like all in life
Nobody knows what Android 3.0 will be.
But Android 2.1 is better than WP7 and probably Android 3.0 will be better than Android 2.1 - so Android 3.0 will be better than WP7, definitely.
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Nobody knows what Android 3.0 will be.
But Android 2.1 is better than WP7 and probably Android 3.0 will be better than Android 2.1 - so Android 3.0 will be better than WP7, definitely.
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It's hard to say that. Besides, bring some facts/arguments why you think it's better.
a FACT is that Silverlight/XNA development is better than Java devolpment. The majority of the developers will agree with me, because of several different reasons. Examples of these reasons are the efficiency of the language, options to port the code and the software used (Visual Studio simply is great).
Another FACT is that WP7 will not suffer from fragmentation like the old WM or like what's happening to android now.
The UI is 100% personal preference, but after using the emulator, seeing demos, and using android phones myself (hero with custom ROM, Desire) I prefer WP7 by far.
Can't say anything useful about battery life until we've got some retail models launched, but I think MS has spent a great deal optimising that as its important for the user experience.
Last but not least, the integration with the OS is excellent on WP7 - acces to Bing Maps, the phone's theme, the zune hub and more just adds a LOT of possibilities. You gotta admit its really sweet how you can instantly access all your imaging-apps (like failmakers/captioning, color effects, etc) directly when you're viewing a picture.
As you might've noticed by my post, I'm way more interested in WP7 than android right now.
The facts/arguments are spread all over this forum, no need to start this discussion again.
WP7 does have some nice things, like the beautiful (IMO) UI, but all in all, Android 2.1 is far superior.
(fragmentation doesn't hurt anyone, btw. - it only gives iPhone/WP7 fanboys something to talk about when they can't find better arguments against Android)
Oh and btw. I prefer Silverlight over Java. It's much better. In theory that is, because in the case of WP7, it's crippled by stupid restrictions.
The fact that you mention integration with the OS tells me that you don't know much about Android. It offers much more possibilities and deeper integration than WP7. Microsoft is talking about integration all the time, but that doesn't change the fact that it's been done before and much better by Google.
(yes, all the stuff like direct access to imaging apps is there and much more)
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Oh and btw. I prefer Silverlight over Java. It's much better. In theory that is, because in the case of WP7, it's crippled by stupid restrictions.
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It restricts stupid? That seems like is should be a good thing. Does Android allow / embrace stupid then?
Hi, this is more of a opinion question than a 'question' question. Hopefully the great devs in the forum see this and find a way to port it. Please vote in the poll and if you have an opinion to say please write them. Just respect other members. Your opinions such as "why would you want a port?" Aren't really Nessecary.
Thanks
Most of your options don't make "sense", so I can't vote!
Whilst it may be possible to port WP7 to the Desire hardware, your first two poll options are to port WP7 to Android which is nonsensical!
Personally, from what I've seen of WP7 so far, there is nothing that makes me want to move away from Android at present, but that doesn't preclude it happening in the future. However, if I did want to move to WP7, I'd almost certainly buy a phone dedicated to it rather than attempt to cobble together something on an Android phone.
Regards,
Dave
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Hi, this is more of a opinion question than a 'question' question. Hopefully the great devs in the forum see this and find a way to port it. Please vote in the poll and if you have an opinion to say please write them. Just respect other members. Your opinions such as "why would you want a port?" Aren't really Nessecary.
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even if it was possible, which it's NOT, none of the developers here would do it as its ILLEGAL, we dont own a LICENCE for wp7, it would be no diffrent to distributing PIRATE copy's of windows 7....
indeed, most of us here bought an android device because we wanted to customise our phones or because we got tired and annoyed with other OSes(especially WM, urg...!{yeah, I know I have the HD2, it pisses me off...=.="'}), but if there are any developers porting WP7, I'd like to see it emulated only.
Oh, I didn't know it was illegal. Guess no one would port it then. But maybe a good emulator would be nice. I wish I had bought a HD2 now...
Given that Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile, it would probably technically be illegal to run it on an HD2 too, though since you'd have effectively paid some kind of licence fee to MS, they would be more likely to turn a blind eye I guess!
It's by no means certain that it would be any easier though!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Given that Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile, it would probably technically be illegal to run it on an HD2 too, though since you'd have effectively paid some kind of licence fee to MS, they would be more likely to turn a blind eye I guess!
It's by no means certain that it would be any easier though!
Regards,
Dave
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that would be down to microsofts discretion, previously they havent made much of an issue out of us porting newer versions of windows mobile to, older windows mobile devices, and imo i dont think they would start now, ie porting wp7 to the HD2 ect.... but i cant see them sitting back and letting people port wp7 to a device with no microsoft licence all together. they didnt get to be the biggest company in the world by letting things like that slide
Why would you want to anyway?
Personally I don't even like the look of WP7 interface. Some nice features but it just looks a bit naff to me!
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Oh, I didn't know it was illegal. Guess no one would port it then. But maybe a good emulator would be nice. I wish I had bought a HD2 now...
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sell your android and buy another phone !
philje123 said:
Why would you want to anyway?
Personally I don't even like the look of WP7 interface. Some nice features but it just looks a bit naff to me!
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i watched the wp7 keynote speach yesterday and was quite impressed, the people hub and the office hub both look very impressive, and as an xbox live gamer, the games hub looks awsome things i dont like about it are, it seems more of a feature phone than a smart phone, and like the iphone its very ms orientated, i dont like that, you can use android without even knowing google develop it
There appear to be a number of folk here who feel that WP7 is a step backward from WM6.5 in terms of feature set, customisability, hackability etc. What then would people propose as an alternative once WM6.5 is finally dead and buried, Android? Iphone? Symbian/ Maemo? or will you give WP7 a chance?
adesonic said:
There appear to be a number of folk here who feel that WP7 is a step backward from WM6.5 in terms of feature set, customisability, hackability etc. What then would people propose as an alternative once WM6.5 is finally dead and buried, Android? Iphone? Symbian/ Maemo? or will you give WP7 a chance?
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So much fight here about it.....
Well I'm still not decided.
But I know I want to give WP7 a go.
Looks great and I would be happy to have clean, unified UI.
Limitations which are apparent on WP7 make it unusable at this point.
Android is the most complete but I just really don't like it's interface...
Probably staying with 6.5 for some time....
i personally cant be bothered to hack my my phone and look for custom ROM to flash. surely people only do this if they are not happy with their phone.if you dont like the OS. dont get it. its the reason why im not getting android, or an iphone. all phones have great features missing from them. and wp7 is only in its first phase improvement like copy and paste will come. ive only got 1 complaint, and that is that i cannot use it as a flash drive but then again, if i did that, would it slow down to a crawl??? wp7 is dead easy, i dont have time to muck around like i used to with wm6.5 on my touch diamond 2. i want it all, and i want it all now. so im sticking with wp7.
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i personally cant be bothered to hack my my phone and look for custom ROM to flash. surely people only do this if they are not happy with their phone.if you dont like the OS. dont get it. its the reason why im not getting android, or an iphone. all phones have great features missing from them. and wp7 is only in its first phase improvement like copy and paste will come. ive only got 1 complaint, and that is that i cannot use it as a flash drive but then again, if i did that, would it slow down to a crawl??? wp7 is dead easy, i dont have time to muck around like i used to with wm6.5 on my touch diamond 2. i want it all, and i want it all now. so im sticking with wp7.
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Same thoughts here. Was cooking my own 6.5roms to get a slim and working OS but sinceI got my HD7, I've stop cooking totally because WP7 is very fast and stable for me. Sure there are areas I'm not happy with, but at least, I have more time to live my life now since I stopped cooking roms.
I'm not here to convince anyone to go WP7, each OS has it's pros and cons, and each of us are completely different and see things and have different needs, so we go for different phones, something that works for us.
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Same thoughts here. Was cooking my own 6.5roms to get a slim and working OS but sinceI got my HD7, I've stop cooking totally because WP7 is very fast and stable for me. Sure there are areas I'm not happy with, but at least, I have more time to live my life now since I stopped cooking roms.
I'm not here to convince anyone to go WP7, each OS has it's pros and cons, and each of us are completely different and see things and have different needs, so we go for different phones, something that works for us.
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LOL , you just made a lot of people angry by stopping with cooking rom's .
I think I will stick with wm 6.5 for awhile. I use it as a Mass storage device & tether with it often. I also am really used to using smart dialing which I can't understand why it wasn't added to WP7. I'll wait to a few months after WP7 lands on Sprint to see what the updates have brought & what hackers have opened. If more functionality is available on WP7 I'll get it, if not I'll go with Android when I want to upgrade because of hardware
shouldn't this be in the winmo section???
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There appear to be a number of folk here who feel that WP7 is a step backward from WM6.5 in terms of feature set, customisability, hackability etc. What then would people propose as an alternative once WM6.5 is finally dead and buried, Android? Iphone? Symbian/ Maemo? or will you give WP7 a chance?
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I'm going to wait for the 2nd generation of WP7 phones and OS (or at least an OS update or two). I was ready to get a focus, then I realized I'd be losing some features I enjoy on my TP2 (multitasking, tethering, call manager) just to gain a newer OS.
I also want premium hardware and design which the first generation doesn't seem to offer. DVP comes close though.
i switched to android, never looked back
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I'm going to wait for the 2nd generation of WP7 phones and OS (or at least an OS update or two). I was ready to get a focus, then I realized I'd be losing some features I enjoy on my TP2 (multitasking, tethering, call manager) just to gain a newer OS.
I also want premium hardware and design which the first generation doesn't seem to offer. DVP comes close though.
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wait, you are using a plastic phone with a plastic resistive screen and are talking about premium hardware???
There should be another choice "I would celebrate with Dom Perignon!" Please put the 6.5 out of it's misery already!
One thing is sure for me, I will not be joinging the iPhone family.
Possibly Maemo or Androd. Depends what kiind of devices will be out by then.
W7 only if there has been lots of needed updates and/or hacks/roms and such.
Any poll in a specific device forum will always have support for that device.
Poll threads should be in common forum to get a neutral response from ALL, IF the thread starter wants to know EVERYONE's opinion.
Just my 2C
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Life after WM6.5 to which he refers is precisely WP7. then the correct section!
A little off-topic, but correct!
I found that I was having to flash new ROMs etc to my 6.5 because the UI and features available to a standard WinMo was rubbish. I never liked the 6.5 OS much, I just liked the ability to customise and look deeper into the phone
I am now on WP7 and would never look back on 6.5.
At the moment I don't see I have much choice - Android here I come I think.
The gains in slick simple UI are insufficient in my case to outweigh the loss of functionality vs 6.5.
Many of the other advantages (gaming for example) are of no interest to me on my phone (I am not the target market).
I will stick with 6.5 until at least Phone Alarm is released for Android, then it will become viable for me. Hopefully this will be early 2011.
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:lol: My premium phone standards were set by my SE X1, not the TP2. I would really love to see a WP7 version of the X1. Hopefully the X7 will deliver. But knowing SE, it won't be released until next November.
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:lol: My premium phone standards were set by my SE X1, not the TP2. I would really love to see a WP7 version of the X1. Hopefully the X7 will deliver. But knowing SE, it won't be released until next November.
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Ditto. X1 was excellent.
Currently on X2 which is actually better in many regards.
Anyway, I just hope SE will make it around Feb/March.
So it will catch upgrades which are for me necessary.
And until core apps I use on WM 6.5 will be functional/supported
I can just wait for some time....
I find it hard to believe anyone speaks of the death of WinMo in the present tense. It died for me like 2 1/2 years ago and since then the iPhone has taken over the smartphone market, Android has taken over the spot WM6.5 used to occupy and Microsoft has done practically nothing until very recently. I bought a Focus and I like it, it's a magnitude nicer and easier to use than my old Fuze with WM6.5 and while it's lacking a lot of the functionality, that will come with time and, in the meantime, I don't need to take out my reading glasses and itty bitty cramp inducing stylus to use it. The Fuze is still sitting on my desk, unused, with a noticable layer of dust on it. And there it will sit until I finally tire of looking at it and throw it away. And good riddance!
I cannot speak for anyone but for me, I have been windows mobile user ever since palm treo with windows on it. Before making switch to WP7, my device was Tilt2 and I tweaked the crap out of it putting custom roms and radio to fit my taste. Although having the capability was great but my user experience was not all that great. Something was always wrong and the hardware and software wasn't working correctly, so I was constantly tweaking and tell you the truth I got tired.
I was ready to jump ship to Android with Samsung Captivate but as soon as the WP7 was arriving I decided to wait. Boy I am glad that I did, I am happy with my samsung focus. Although it's missing some functions now but I am sure it's on it's way, the stability and the fact that it just works and I do not have to tweak anything makes my life a lot easier. Could not be more happy with OS. At least so far.
My wife has iphone and looked at android and both are not really appealing to me. Android is not all that great even if with all the customization and tweaking.
I have hd2 and Im so so so happy with it but here I come to my next thot what next????wm6.5 is dead, android is not for me wp7 ok but ugly here comes question IS IT POSSIBLE TO BRING SENSE 2,5 ON WP7 PHONES imagine wp7 system and beauty of cht on home screen FANTASTIC.So my question to all wp7 devs and all ppl there would you like this combination on your wp7 unit do you think its good or not and most important is someone out there who could make this working??????????
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I have hd2 and Im so so so happy with it but here I come to my next thot what next????wm6.5 is dead, android is not for me wp7 ok but ugly here comes question IS IT POSSIBLE TO BRING SENSE 2,5 ON WP7 PHONES imagine wp7 system and beauty of cht on home screen FANTASTIC.So my question to all wp7 devs and all ppl there would you like this combination on your wp7 unit do you think its good or not and most important is someone out there who could make this working??????????
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no...just no..
See above... Wp7 did awesome to get away from the trainwreck UIs that plague android and winmo. They have created the single cleanest and best looking OS in doing so. Sense would just much it up and I'm glad HTC doesn't have that much access because if I had to see that stupid flip clock I'd likely leave my phone for dead.
The only Sense UI aspect that *could* be done is to utilise tiles. I've seen mock-ups of this somewhere. However, we don't have that much flexibility with the tiles - i.e. no double tiles for the flippy clock and no direct way (without push implementation) to change what's on the tiles.
z33dev33l said:
See above... Wp7 did awesome to get away from the trainwreck UIs that plague android and winmo. They have created the single cleanest and best looking OS in doing so. Sense would just much it up and I'm glad HTC doesn't have that much access because if I had to see that stupid flip clock I'd likely leave my phone for dead.
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ok m8 but we are not same some of us dont like that simple square ugly look of windows phone.THATS WHY i STARTED THIS TO SEE IF WE CAN USE WP7 ON OUR WAY.Soon hd2 will be old tec and we gona need something new.I love 6.5 because I can costum everything on it icons,sliders,look,levels I started to make my own stuff in photoshop and I dont like that stupid iphone clon os everything locked and all about money.I hate iphone but if have to chose ios or wp7 how is now ios is more OK for me
and yea I forgot 6.5 without sense looks nicer then wp7 and if you dont like flip clock no problem go little in 6.5 threads and look what those fantastic devs done of 6.5 IF SOME ONE OF THEM READ THIS ,,,,TY SO MUCH TO ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR MAKING 6.5 STILL ALIVE
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ok m8 but we are not same some of us dont like that simple square ugly look of windows phone.I love 6.5 because I can costum everything on it icons,sliders,look levels I started to make my own stuff in photoshop and I dont like that stupid iphone clon os everything locked and all about money.I hate iphone but if have to chose ios or wp7 how is now ios is more OK for me
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if your perogative is customization then you are on the wrong OS. Wp7 is a completelnew oS and is not an extension of windows mobile. The fact that it's locked down does not make it an iPhone clone and I must say, you're either trolling or really showing your ass here. Sense won't happen, you would have to hack the phone extensively, get htcs code, convert it to the proper format, unlock APIs that don't exist to make a tile that is fully live, and pretty much build it from scratch all with the potential lawsuit from HTC for doing so. That's just for that hideous clock. The next option would be to port android or wm6.5 onto your wp7 device but that's counter-intuitive at best and with winmo likely impossible. Either way, you're out of luck.
Android would be your best bet, you can customise it to look how you want AND HTC devices will obviously have sense. Even if sense could be done on WP7 as you dont like the OS itself its pointless as eventually you will have to deal with some aspects of it. And if you are happy living entirely within the sense environment again, an android device with sense is the solution.
Having thought about it, you could create an app - not a true UI like Sense.
You wouldn't suffer from the same problems, it'd be completely customizable and it could be instant resume...
Sure, there'd still be problems - i.e. you couldn't have shortcuts to apps etc. Oh and it probably wouldn't get into the Marketplace if it looked too much like Sense, so you'd have to sideload it.
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well all I can do is wait and hope that roomers about htc OS is truth hope they will make something good and nice looking in one,or hope that my hd2 will run good couple of years more lool
buy an android/winmo phone next time
lol m8 I have rafpignas disareHD rom on my sd card just for games and browsing (flash 10,1)have flash 10,1 on wim mob too but not that god like on android