Just came:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...software_to_deliver_multitasking_support.html
Still not sure though ... but quite interesting.
If that is true, WP7 better to have it as well!
It's already been hinted that WP7S has multitasking. When you click back on the phone it's goes back to the last application or menu you were using.
Let's say you open Pictures, then you Open the Web Browser. If you click the back button then it will go back to pictures.
Yes, I know that, WP7 will have some sort of multitasking capability.
I just want to post news from other platform competitor (iPhone) so we can see that they are working on something ...
This year would be interesting on mobile world (WP7, iPhone 4, iPad?, HP Slate?).
krjcook said:
It's already been hinted that WP7S has multitasking. When you click back on the phone it's goes back to the last application or menu you were using.
Let's say you open Pictures, then you Open the Web Browser. If you click the back button then it will go back to pictures.
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Speaking of Tables, did you know that LG is supposedly making a WP7S tablet. I don't really care about that, but there are leaked videos of MS Courier which is the hottest thing I've ever seen. Also MS has some touch based OS called MS Locus. It's seens to be Webos, Android, and Iphone OS combined. Here's a pic
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krjcook said:
When you click back on the phone it's goes back to the last application or menu you were using.
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That's NOT multitasking
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That's NOT multitasking
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Please explain to me what multitasking is. It's a mobile device, what are you expecting multiple windows like you for A Full Blown Desktop OS? You can only view one app at a time. What kind of multitasking do you want? When you switch to another app, the app you were previously using pauses. If it was a IM, Web Browsing, Email or any other web based App it will continue to send information. It's the same if not similar multitasking that you see in Android.
Multitasking means that applications are actually running in the background.
On WP7S, they just save their sate and close or pause. That means they're not running = no multitasking.
(I might be wrong and maybe they are actually running, but everything currently hints that this is not the case and there's indeed no multitasking).
On Android, applications keep running. They just save their sate in case something goes wrong and they have to be closed (e.g. if the device runs out of RAM).
Yes, but is that a big difference? What does keeping an App open in the background benefit your anyway as long as it's readily available? It's not like that app is completely closes, it's just pauses to reduce it's footprint. When you go back it's immdiately available without any loading. Not like you see on the other fruity platform.
multi-tasking might not be really important from a normal user view---> i might be wrong....
however on a enterprise point of view, it is important. running ipblue at the background waiting for call or using office communicator at the background while checking out the email.
This has been discussed ad nauseum already. In many cases you need the application to actually run in background. MS and Apple do it for their own apps such as the music player. The whole question is whether we'll be able to use third-party apps that need it as well.
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This has been discussed ad nauseum already. In many cases you need the application to actually run in background. MS and Apple do it for their own apps such as the music player. The whole question is whether we'll be able to use third-party apps that need it as well.
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true, believe in the near future, we will have more prominent answer.
This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rd3TD9g_Y
+ WP7 design and MS services
= perfect
(notice how elegantly it multitasks and how it also has tiles? It just looks ugly)
That's probably the only OS that actually has that type of multitasking besides the Pre.
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That's probably the only OS that actually has that type of multitasking besides the Pre.
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WM also has it if you install Task Facade. Android kinda has it (shows you a list of apps when you long press the home button).
you can discuss forever it won't change anything. wait for the OS and see for yourselves.
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Android kinda has it (shows you a list of apps when you long press the home button).
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That just shows your 6 recently launched apps, not nessecarily running though.
who gives a **** about the iphone ??? if uve handled a snapdragon phone , and after u get an iphone in ur hand , ur wipe ur ass with it and its ugly low res screen
its history , stop riding it
WP7 will be king
Iam very confident in windows phone7 and its ability to handle Xbox games and tasks. So confident that for WVGA devices like touchpro2 I made a demo of what it would be like and I put it here.
My best guess is that WP7 still uses windows CE as its code base and inherits multitasking support. Seems like multitasking is not a big deal though as WP7 moves away from the multiple application concept.
Although we have heard rumors that WP7S will have preemptive multitasking, if you think about it, the live tiles really defeat the purpose of multitasking.
Say you have a (multi-platform) twitter app.
In Android, you can leave this open and come back to it anytime and it will be up-to-date, but you don't receive any notification.
When using live tiles in WP7S, you can run your twitter app and then switch over to another app, and, although your twitter app will close, while your doing other things your app's live tile can be checking for updates periodically and even display the most recent tweet directed towards you on the homesreen. That way, when you go back to the homesreen, you can see that there's a new tweet, and launch the now-updated app.
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Here are the first shots from the WP7 Keynote in MWC 2011
You can access this menu by pressing and holding the back key and no doubt this will be apart of the 2011 Mango update. expected 'Later this year'
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Hope you like what's planned for the future though because personally I cannot wait!
Yes, one more thing off my check list.
A few more and I'm sold.
Wow, that whole cards thing is so webos
adesonic said:
Wow, that whole cards thing is so webos
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Or Symbian .
Peew971 said:
Or Symbian .
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so it begins lol
Gotta wonder why they keep going that way instead of an "Exposé"-like approach. I mean, in webOS since the "cards" could be interacted with. Here it just feels like a waste of screen real estate...
I guess it's because they want to make individual task previews as large as possible when there are there many tasks to choose from.
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Gotta wonder why they keep going that way instead of an "Exposé"-like approach. I mean, in webOS since the "cards" could be interacted with. Here it just feels like a waste of screen real estate...
I guess it's because they want to make individual task previews as large as possible when there are there many tasks to choose from.
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Just be happy it'll be there and doing what it's meant to do.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't sheesh.
I personally don't like this. wp7 is hassle free right now, the last thing on earth I want is yet another "task manager" or having to close apps to make sure they're not eating memory or battery or...
WTF why on earth... this is why winmo was a failure MS.
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Maybe I'm not understanding it right, and it wouldn't be keeping apps open, just keeping your spot open in where you were with the app.
sure haven't said:
I personally don't like this. wp7 is hassle free right now, the last thing on earth I want is yet another "task manager" or having to close apps to make sure they're not eating memory or battery or...
WTF why on earth... this is why winmo was a failure MS.
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Maybe I'm not understanding it right, and it wouldn't be keeping apps open, just keeping your spot open in where you were with the app.
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I don't think they have gone into enough detail of how it works. It could be like iOS or it could be like Android. We'll probably have to wait til MIX to see.
Honestly Figured MS would implement a task switching feature like this. Either similar to Cards in WebOS or the 6 previous you see in Android when you hold down the home button
lekki said:
Just be happy it'll be there and doing what it's meant to do.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't sheesh.
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Huh? I'm just discussing the way it's implemented. I'm not criticizing it.
DarkRyoushii said:
Here are the first shots from the WP7 Keynote in MWC 2011
You can access this menu by pressing and holding the back key and no doubt this will be apart of the 2011 Mango update. expected 'Later this year'
Hope you like what's planned for the future though because personally I cannot wait!
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Wooo-Hoooo! A real multitasking! Out-friggin-standing! I'm so excited I'm as giddy as a school girl...hehe
This MT is every bit as good as the WebOS MT.
Hopefully we can manually "turn on" apps we want to keep running in the background.
Optimistic me believes MS recognizes the issues of task managers in WinMo and Android and has some sort of fix worked out.
This is wonderful and im sure will be improved upon
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Is it really multitasking? I saw a video on youtube and lost my erection a little bit.
First he talked about how "fast" it was to switch back to a game and showed a demo. Click back button, do stuff go back to the game and it is paused. Click continue and it starts immediately.
Then he showed off how to display the list of multiple apps by holding the back button and scrolling through them.
Then he mentions even 3rd party music applications will be allowed to play music even after the user switches screens "like Microsoft's music player".
This is great!
nizzon said:
This is great!
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Yeah but notice he isn't actually going into anything else. He keeps saying "yadda yadda do whatever I want, then just press back! It's so easy!"
What he's not showing is that now the cache will have the phone "app", the sms app, and maybe something else in its memory. It won't know that you want to go back to the game. So you'll be cycling through stuff before getting back to it.
But you can probably just skip that with a long-press back button
Erm, what? Did you miss the middle part where he jumps between 2 games and e-mail by holding "back"? Or am I not getting your point?
sounds like fast app switching form what he is saying... no idea how it works but its perfect for me as long as apps which require a connection can just stay connected and updated like an IM app for example. It would be **** if you have to sign in again
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Erm, what? Did you miss the middle part where he jumps between 2 games and e-mail by holding "back"? Or am I not getting your point?
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No, that was me not watching the whole thing. Open mouth, insert foot.
The KIN's browser has javascript... and I've been playing a few javascript games on the phone and they work wonderfully. And it's really nice that you can pin the web pages on the apps screen. Some games require arrow keys that the kin lacks so games like tetris don't work properly. What i'm trying to get at is why don't we try to develop Javascript applications designed for use with this phone? Downside is you have to have a data plan or be on wifi to use the applications. But on the brightside it is a solution to the lack of apps on the phone.
Below are screenshots of some Javascript apps and the app menu.
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or we can develope applications that download to the phone and dont require internet?
Personally, two things: no connection needed, saves.
The nvidia part is a monster if used right, and we have a qwerty to map as keys for random emulators (if the OS protection is broken).
And i will use javascript to do some jailbreak or something, like i stated and/or normal website ajax requests....
johnkussack said:
Personally, two things: no connection needed, saves.
The nvidia part is a monster if used right, and we have a qwerty to map as keys for random emulators (if the OS protection is broken).
And i will use javascript to do some jailbreak or something, like i stated and/or normal website ajax requests....
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I see where you're coming from. It's just this phone is so locked down and we haven't been able to get around it... Possibly some time in the future we may. This is just a proposal for one of the possibilities. I also like the idea of jailbreaking through javascript.
dezgrz said:
The KIN's browser has javascript... and I've been playing a few javascript games on the phone and they work wonderfully. And it's really nice that you can pin the web pages on the apps screen. Some games require arrow keys that the kin lacks so games like tetris don't work properly. What i'm trying to get at is why don't we try to develop Javascript applications designed for use with this phone? Downside is you have to have a data plan or be on wifi to use the applications. But on the brightside it is a solution to the lack of apps on the phone.=QUOTE]
Only if we could download Javascript Apps...
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dezgrz said:
The KIN's browser has javascript... and I've been playing a few javascript games on the phone and they work wonderfully. And it's really nice that you can pin the web pages on the apps screen. Some games require arrow keys that the kin lacks so games like tetris don't work properly. What i'm trying to get at is why don't we try to develop Javascript applications designed for use with this phone? Downside is you have to have a data plan or be on wifi to use the applications. But on the brightside it is a solution to the lack of apps on the phone.
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Only if we could download Javascript Apps...
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Well, in theory if we could access the storage of the phone so we could read/write files to it... we could store the document on the phone and point the browser to it's location.
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Well, in theory if we could access the storage of the phone so we could read/write files to it... we could store the document on the phone and point the browser to it's location.
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as far as i know, KIN's browser doesn't support urls starting with "ftp://" and "file://"
So, i see no way to access files through browser.
JavaScript App Development in Browser
I've experimented with developing hosted applications to run in the web browser (data connection required). Unfortunately, the double-tap delay introduces an irritating latency into the browser's response, making it seem slow. It waits for a second tap for zooming in, then responds to a single tap if the second tap doesn't occur within the wait period.
My experiment was to clone the Calculator application, adding scientific functions below the first step of buttons. When the phone is held horizontally, you have a basic calculator. Turning it vertically reveals the extended functions. Anyway, this latency causes the application's response to lag behind your input.
www .gregsearle.com/kin/scicalc.html (work in progress, somewhat flaky, you'll need to reassemble this link).
This is great, thanks for posting up this website. Does anyone know of other places to access these types of games?
The scientific calculator is finished as a proof-of-concept test, but the browser's tap lag makes it difficult to use. If there was a way to eliminate this lag, browser-based apps may be an effective solution.
I know this sounds noob-ish, but if this thing is based on WP7, then we can
a) get the Windows Phone 7 people to help us create a virus/something to crack the system.
b) Use the Chevron WP7 unlocker to hack the KIN. http://www.chevronwp7.com/
c) Connect an external harddrive/USB to this and see if we can get a connection. If we do, we can load up some sort of program like CWM to flash ROMS, edit the system, etc.
I know my ideas might be stupid, but doesn't hurt to try.
obsama1 said:
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The thing is that as far as we know, its based on Windows CE 6, not WP7 sorry (though I may be mistaken with my facts)
got one
i found a game that is cached on the phone so it can be played without a connection... www.iminesweeper.com. it's as the name implies minesweeper, but it's better than nothing
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I know this sounds noob-ish, but if this thing is based on WP7, then we can
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The thing is that as far as we know, its based on Windows CE 6, not WP7 sorry (though I may be mistaken with my facts)
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Correct. The phone was originally planned to be the first WP7 product, but due to time and other issues, they used a very customised build of Windows Mobile 6.
The phone will always attempt to cache the last page loaded so that you can access it offline for a while. However, some pages can't be cached.
Just a thought
Before anyone freaks out on me, know that I haven't done any programming in 10 years (so I'm pretty much useless there), but I can do research for things people have done in the past. I stumbled across a method to cache games called "cache manifest". It seems to have been used by iphone/ipad users a lot (not sure why since they have apps). However, I did add a couple of the games I found that use it to my "apps" page on my KIN and while they can't be played (I guess not a compatible Java), I was able to pull it up 10 hours later without WIFI and see the start screen and some counters and drop down menus. Wondering if anyone has any experience with this and can mention if it may help. If this is useless sorry for wasting every bodies time. I'll give a couple example below.
touchsolitaire.mobi/app
www.roccles.com/external/jquerymobilelocalstorage/
www.gauravmanek.com/projects/3dminesweeper/ipad/index_ipad.html
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Notification center is one place for all new events and updates, like call, mails, messages, social networks updates such as Facebook and Twitter and others.
Full info Notification center concept for Windows Phone
Yeah I like it a lot.
Looks good to me too.
Looks awesome!!! Killer idea.
Looks great
thanks guys ..
You guys might also like some of the other concepts we have done in the past
Skype , Paypal
Our entire Concept series for Windows Phone
It looks nice, but is too busy for my taste.
Don't like the sense-esque weather or how busy it is as it'd muck up the UI but I like the concept, just too busy for metro.
Yup, a lot of these concepts don't take into account the amount of work the WP7 design team has put in to making the Metro UI uncluttered, simple and yet so stylish..
too busy and would look very out of place with the clean styling of the Metro UI
Looks like Android to me...
I love it - looks great and functional too.
Yes Metro UI is uncluttered, but unfortunately that means lists of white text on a black background...again and again. It's easy to use but boring to look at - reminds me of an old DOS terminal!
the0ne said:
Notification center is one place for all new events and updates, like call, mails, messages, social networks updates such as Facebook and Twitter and others.
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Did you seriously just copy "Notification Center" from iOS 5 right down to the name?
In any case, it looks good. But I'm not sure Microsoft wants to go the down-swipe route. Maybe swipe right to a pane to the left of the start screen?
Or even an extra button on the start screen to go to a Notification Hub. The App list has Search, the Home Screen can have the notification button with a number inside the bubble. I think taht would be elegant and the most unintrusive way to add it in.
In the Hub you can have Notifications and Reminders, however if you have to go to the Notification Hub to get reminders you're already somewhat failed there The OS supports Tasks and To-Dos with half-screen notifications/reminders. There's no need for that pane, IMO.
I am sort of pissed that Microsoft didn't make toasts a rolling 3D box like Apple did in iOS, though... They really need to add a bit more 3D to the OS. It's way way too flat IMO. Almost painstakingly so.
Your Skype thing bought an issue to mind. Why doesn't the message hub in Mango have a graphic or text to tell you your online status? After all, the phone does not log you on automatically when you [re]boot it up.
The music playback controls there are thoroughly unnecessary since they're easily accessible by just pressing a volume key. Waste of space.
I actually think the bubble (Notifications for Start, Search for App list in same spot) would be a better solution than a gesture. Some apps take over that top area and I'm not sure how the phone will handle it when you have UI elements up there that need to be tapped or dragged.
Looks like Android not Windows Phone!
Way to busy, Metro is an elegant yet minimalist UI. This concept looks like a breed between Android and Windows Mobile. With Nokia now contributing to the actual OS I believe the 3rd page concept found on Meego will/should make the jump (minus twitter and facebook since they're already in the People hub).
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thanks guys ..
You guys might also like some of the other concepts we have done in the past
Skype , Paypal
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I much prefer your other concepts
I like the idea of a swipe down for a metro list of recent notifications though...that's a priceless idea and seems to flow properly within the windows 8 ecosystem
I think you are missing the point.
Ignore the background and additional applications etc. The notifications themselves look great and an idea I was thinking about.
If you don't code this up, I will
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I like the idea of a swipe down for a metro list of recent notifications though...that's a priceless idea and seems to flow properly within the windows 8 ecosystem
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very wrong imo. A swipe down where? Lock screen? That's not very convenient, home screen? We swipe up and down to navigate the menu. The most viable option is a third table.
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very wrong imo. A swipe down where? Lock screen? That's not very convenient, home screen? We swipe up and down to navigate the menu. The most viable option is a third table.
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it's already in the os
swipe down you get your battery indicator and time...
same method of swiping but instead getting notifications...
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Looks like Android to me...
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It does....
Nice concept, it's just not Windows Phone though...
go for it
@Peew971 : I didn't create it , one of our designers ( Yanko ) worked on the design
In mango, if I use back button to reopen a app(mango supported), there is no annoying resuming, and it is pretty good. But if I try to reopen that app through app list or live tiles or toast notification, the app will be restart as though it has never been opened.
It's very inconvenient especially when I use a IM client. Why MS makes it like this???
Because it takes that as a relaunch which is convenient on most apps aside from games. However, it seems like you may not have found the task switcher (just assuming) if you hold the back button it pulls your 5 most recent tasks and allows for a resume.
The OP very clearly stated that the app switcher works fine. But if IM+ is already loaded and available in the app switcher, and you get an IM+ toast, wouldn't it make sense to just switch to the open instance of IM+, rather than killing that instance and reloading from scratch (which can take 20-30 seconds)?
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Because it takes that as a relaunch which is convenient on most apps aside from games. However, it seems like you may not have found the task switcher (just assuming) if you hold the back button it pulls your 5 most recent tasks and allows for a resume.
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This doesn't work with resuming Netflix. It just restarts
dimamarcel said:
This doesn't work with resuming Netflix. It just restarts
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Thats because the Netflix app is not yet updated to Windows Phone 7.5 aka Mango.
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The OP very clearly stated that the app switcher works fine. But if IM+ is already loaded and available in the app switcher, and you get an IM+ toast, wouldn't it make sense to just switch to the open instance of IM+, rather than killing that instance and reloading from scratch (which can take 20-30 seconds)?
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It is an annoying feature of the way the OS works for sure. I have also noticed with IM+ (I think, might have been gchat) that if I get a toast and I am in mid-conversation, pressing back to fast resume doesn't always add the last message from the other person to the chat even though I have had the notification for it.
This is really something that app developers should be allowed to control, some sort of "reuse previously running instance" switch.
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Because it takes that as a relaunch which is convenient on most apps aside from games. However, it seems like you may not have found the task switcher (just assuming) if you hold the back button it pulls your 5 most recent tasks and allows for a resume.
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I know the 'task switcher', but when i receve a toast notification and click it, just relaunch the app takes long.Since the app is in the task switcher, why not resume it directly.
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The OP very clearly stated that the app switcher works fine. But if IM+ is already loaded and available in the app switcher, and you get an IM+ toast, wouldn't it make sense to just switch to the open instance of IM+, rather than killing that instance and reloading from scratch (which can take 20-30 seconds)?
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yes, this is exactly what i want to say.
I think the problem is in IM+. that app always takes forever to load and I don't think it supports mango
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I think the problem is in IM+. that app always takes forever to load and I don't think it supports mango
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Nop. It's not.
For some stupid reason WP7 doesnt support multitask for third apps. Not even resume the instance.
If you want to resume the instance, you hold the back button and choose from the lame switcher. It takes so long that it is almost better to just re open the app.
Because it's so much clever you force the user to reopen the app every time he needs it instead of including a way to force close when it needs (like, I dont know, holding the card in the fast switch?). Just like iOS/Android does.
When you resume, you have to wait another 3~4 seconds to see the message.
I tested gchat and beejive for iPhone at the same time. Sent one message, opened from each toast notification (iOS 5). iPhone is about 6 seconds faster to display your message. Now take that to a conversation. Oh, you can use fast switch, yes. So its not 6 seconds, its 'just' 4 seconds faster to EACH message.
Mango didnt saved WP7. Not for me. It just killed all my hopes. Maybe Tango/Apollo?
I'm just waiting to iPhone 4S comes to my country to say bye to my WP7. Which is bad, because I love WP7, dont like iPhone, but hate Androids. Right now WP7 just get me frustated, so my next option is iOS ;/
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I think the problem is in IM+. that app always takes forever to load and I don't think it supports mango
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exactly, IM+ is not updated to supports mango feature
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look really good then.
Time to do some Apple Siri-Comparing!
Just Downloaded v1 from the marketplace out of curiosity. Definately needs some help with accuracy lol
I like positive news and this is positive, WP needs to keep up the good work and listen to what we want and need, if they do then I can see them reaching their goals in 2015 but if the don't then, well... it's not good and you all know how I feel about that so I'll spare you my complaining.
The new update looks awesome..cant wait for it..And the best part is that it is totally free!
Symondo said:
Just Downloaded v1 from the marketplace out of curiosity. Definately needs some help with accuracy lol
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Agreed, I read some where that the dev of this app has actually been trying to get Ziggy to do more but you know MS and their damned restricted API's. I'n my opinion they need to hire this guy.
The screenshots look cool. I may dl it again.
I tried it before, and 90% of the time the response was just "would you like to do a websearch for that" or whatever it says.
I could save myself time and a couple steps by just voice-searching Bing.
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The screenshots look cool. I may dl it again.
I tried it before, and 90% of the time the response was just "would you like to do a websearch for that" or whatever it says.
I could save myself time and a couple steps by just voice-searching Bing.
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I know I hardly use it my self, I'll use it from time to time to entertain my self for a few laughs but it's great to see it evolve. You have to give it to the dev of the app; he has to improve it even with the MS restrictions.
I really don't like it when developers use a panorama design and put "Settings" as a screen to swipe to. They really should put the settings in the app bar. If he only wants the microphone icon in the app bar then add the settings to the "more" 2 dots part.
Otherwise I'm looking forward to this update!
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I really don't like it when developers use a panorama design and put "Settings" as a screen to swipe to. They really should put the settings in the app bar. If he only wants the microphone icon in the app bar then add the settings to the "more" 2 dots part.
Otherwise I'm looking forward to this update!
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LOL, I think he did it that way because people asked him to make it more metrofied.
Much better design and definitely if Microsoft know what they doing, they would hire this dude. These are people that are ready to dedicate their full time to Windows Phone.
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LOL, I think he did it that way because people asked him to make it more metrofied.
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Then he should look closely at how MS design their panorama apps. Settings are always in the app bar in People hub, messaging, xbox live hub, calender etc
Generally when a user swipes along a panoramic screen its to see more content. Settings isn't more content. Most users don't even fiddle with it each time they launch the app unless they need to change something, so therefore dedicating an entire panoramic screen to it is bad design and not metro.
That is my opinion
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Then he should look closely at how MS design their panorama apps. Settings are always in the app bar in People hub, messaging, xbox live hub, calender etc
Generally when a user swipes along a panoramic screen its to see more content. Settings isn't more content. Most users don't even fiddle with it each time they launch the app unless they need to change something, so therefore dedicating an entire panoramic screen to it is bad design and not metro.
That is my opinion
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+1
It's the case with so many major app developers. It's the mindset from other OSes. That brings us to badly developed apps argument. There is always an app for what we need, if not official, a client - majority of the times. But most apps are so horribly metrofied that it's mortifying. Making apps esp free ones, is an amazing task! But then full hearted approach to match the metro concept will streamline an user's experience and they will love your app more. Else someone too choosy about how his phone looks might find distasteful breaks in his streamline experience. Most WP users gotta be choosy with UI, why else would you love this new UI so much!?
May be people here won't agree, but this is what I generally consider as a factor whether any particular app will stay on my WP. In my WM and Android days, that wasn't an issue because OS UI was ugly anyway. But can't let the UI experience be ruined just because I want some functionality of an app that I might only use once a week or once a month!
Oh this looks so much better. I'm not a big fan of how it looks right now.
I do agree with previous comments about settings. A whole screen to swipe to is uneccessary. Put it in the bar.
I can agree Ziggy looks dirty. I hope developer ask some designers to help him make ui better.
Function over finesse. It's more important to get the core working well, than to tweak the look and feel.
For the most part the real use is a 1 button deal. Make it listen. Make it stop and process.
The app without a function update was only a cool concept, but not much worked properly. Since it is a 1 person team, I am glad the focus is on getting it to function properly.
Once the guts are working properly, it can be delivered. Then, we will have a great functional app while the user interface tweaks are done. Then we will have a superb app.