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the reason i left symbian devices (and never tried out iphone, android devices or even the new emerging maemo devices) is the customization and the functionality of windows mobile...
i mean not just putting widgets on homescreen or having 5 homescreen pages which look the same, but more of completely changing the way ur device looks... Take for example wm6.5 homescreen, replace it with touchflo/manila/new sense and u got somethin totally new... Or the addition of spb mobile shell, the new soon to come touchXperience and the already in beta stage infinity UI, that is what I call full functional customization. And if MS win phone 7 is goin to take away that functionality, then its like takin one step forward and 2 steps back.
that being said, it is still not fully confirmed but if MS is taking away that functionality, can we still have hope for some kind of emulator... u know kinda like win xp mode that win 7 brought to us
only instead of win xp (or maybe even win xp ) we can have maybe wm 6.6 (if its gonna come out or perhaps the latest of wm6.5 (6.5.x)
Did you read my post or my mind?
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Did you read my post or my mind?
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well it seems i have trouble registering to the site so couldnt see any post...
but i guess great minds think alike
I can't believe that its already happened but The HD7 has gotten an android port.
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/htc-hd7-gets-android-via-cooked-chinese-rom-video
Pretty slick. I would love to see Android on my LG Quantum. lol
My main issue w/ WP7 is that the APIs/apps don't exist ( sockets for 1 ) for doing things like streaming video ( a la orb ) and offline gps navigation.
ycavan said:
Pretty slick. I would love to see Android on my LG Quantum. lol
My main issue w/ WP7 is that the APIs/apps don't exist ( sockets for 1 ) for doing things like streaming video ( a la orb ) and offline gps navigation.
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What are you talking about? You can easily stream video to a WP7 device. Same goes for offline navigation.
Is it real 100% ?
Because they didn't provide any method and this a month of April fool day,
and one more.. how did they do it with what HSPL ??
Source of this video : XDA.CN
try setting up orb & go to mycast.orb.com, login & try to stream anything... ie on wp7 refuses to play any container, even asx files.
& offline nav... which offline nav app have you found in the Marketplace? Right now, I use TomTom 7 on my wm 6.5 phone. I also have A-to-B on my Quantum, but that is not an offline solution.
Navigon has to be side-loaded ( 'cause I have yet to find North American Navigon ) and then tricked into downloading NA maps from a local web server... so not very legit there.
Don't get me wrong, I do like Netflix and Facebook integration in wp7... I'm just irritated that this device was handicapped w/ the lack of APIs for normal daily stuff.
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Don't get me wrong, I do like Netflix and Facebook integration in wp7... I'm just irritated that this device was handicapped w/ the lack of APIs for normal daily stuff.
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It has nothing to do with API's being missing - all the API's you need (for these two purposes) are there. If I'm not mistaken there are a few Orb clients in the works - but my point was that you can stream to WP7 just fine. Heck, you can stream directly from your Media Center PC at home over 3G if you set it up right.
As for Navigon - you're correct, it's exclusive to TMODE, but the app exists and works just fine, again showing you that all the API's are infact there. The only non-standard APIs Navigon use are those to identify your IMEI and IMSI, which would not be needed were the app not exclusive in the first place.
I'd rather see WP7 ported to Android phones than the other way around. The hardware is so much better on the Android side, I'm not sure why anyone would ever want to do this.
Why would anyone want to downgrade the OS??
I love my hd7....but I would like to see this come to life. Fingers crossed.
^^^ I wouldn't necessarily call it a downgrade... More like a 2nd option. I wouldn't mind having it.
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^^^ I wouldn't necessarily call it a downgrade... More like a 2nd option. I wouldn't mind having it.
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Exactly.
Kinda like having windows 7 and Ubuntu dual boot...kinda
I'll say do I want android
I stopped developing for HD2 android to get wp7...I don't want to go back. Period
I would love to have this as an option. I'd still primarily use WP7 but it'd be great to duel boot and be able to use Android when I need or want something that is not yet available for WP7. I'd love it just to play Abduction! World Attack and for Google Nav.
I would love to be able to put android on my hd7.
Please give me more options guys!
Thanks!
Eww. I'd rather be able to dual boot WM6.5.3. Android is just a rip off of iPhone and WM6.5 anyways...
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Eww. I'd rather be able to dual boot WM6.5.3. Android is just a rip off of iPhone and WM6.5 anyways...
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Which both ripped off of Palm OS (aka Garnet OS).
Please explain how Windows Mobile ripped off Garnet OS or any Palm Product...
Nevermind... You can't.
Don't see how this is possible without HSPL or Haret, he probably just put an HD7 front side case on some Android device.
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how the hell did you guys go from Android on an HD7 to the same old idiotic "oh man WP7 sucks, WP7 is awesome, WM6.5.x sucks, Palm is awesome"
this has nothing to do with any of that garbage.
$5 says this thread will soon be full of the usual suspects bashing WP7 and its missing features.
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Don't see how this is possible without HSPL or Haret, he probably just put an HD7 front side case on some Android device.
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how the hell did you guys go from Android on an HD7 to the same old idiotic "oh man WP7 sucks, WP7 is awesome, WM6.5.x sucks, Palm is awesome"
this has nothing to do with any of that garbage.
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its possible they used jtag for this...
Ok, now DreamForceTeam launched Windows Mobile 6.1 on Windows Phone 7 (HTC 7 Pro) and showed that on the movie (what is next ?):
Now this shows how terrible windows mobile was. I would do this on my trophy, but seeing how putting a laggy os on a phone designed for wp7 is so pointless, I'd rather put windows phone (hopefully tango) on wm devices.
Yessss, with this we may have the chance of using FpseCE on WP7!
Agree
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Now this shows how terrible windows mobile was. I would do this on my trophy, but seeing how putting a laggy os on a phone designed for wp7 is so pointless, I'd rather put windows phone (hopefully tango) on wm devices.
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Very well said, couldn't agree more. The fact you can do something doesn't mean you should. I was a WM 6.5 fan but would NEVER go back to that after over a year with the constantly improving WP7.
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Ok, now DreamForceTeam launched Windows Mobile 6.1 on Windows Phone 7 (HTC 7 Pro) and showed that on the movie (what is next ?):
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good thanks
JamesAllen said:
Very well said, couldn't agree more. The fact you can do something doesn't mean you should. I was a WM 6.5 fan but would NEVER go back to that after over a year with the constantly improving WP7.
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You know...the video shows pretty good performance over all on it. Yea, 6.1 was a dog but, There is still a hanful of apps I would use on it that there is no WP7 app for.
If this was downloadable, I would download it to try it. It would be nice to bring back some App memories...
Is this only on a custom rom ?
That's sort of nostalgic. But like I'd never put Windows 95 on my current computers, I would also never go back to the Windows Mobile days. Sick of constant lock ups, bad memory management, overall laggy behaviour and such. If I wanted to use Windows Mobile again, I'd rather buy an HD2 from craigslist or eBay than flash it on my WP device.
If we could use equalizers and audio effects, I would love to see dual boot.
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That's sort of nostalgic. But like I'd never put Windows 95 on my current computers, I would also never go back to the Windows Mobile days. Sick of constant lock ups, bad memory management, overall laggy behaviour and such. If I wanted to use Windows Mobile again, I'd rather buy an HD2 from craigslist or eBay than flash it on my WP device.
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Did you even watch the video ? He was running ON TOP of WP7, at one point in the video he hit back and it jumped back to WP7.
If it's like shown, an emulator, I'm great with it, if I have to flash my device, screw it, dont want it.
If I can dump 6.1 on my WP7 device to run when I want to, it opens a whole world of 10+ years of Apps that will run on it (and there is a lot more of 6.0+ apps than there is WP7 apps)
I would want to dowload it and install cabs to it, if I can't do that, then I have no needs for it.
I would much rather use an emulator on my phone than waste $150-200 on a HD2 that ran Windows Mobile 6.5 anyway.
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You know...the video shows pretty good performance over all on it. Yea, 6.1 was a dog but, There is still a hanful of apps I would use on it that there is no WP7 app for.
If this was downloadable, I would download it to try it. It would be nice to bring back some App memories...
Is this only on a custom rom ?
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I do miss the equalizers I had loaded on WM 6.X. I miss them a great deal. It is the one thing I am still waiting for in WP7. I have found replacements for most all of the other apps I used on WM over the last few months.
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Did you even watch the video ? He was running ON TOP of WP7, at one point in the video he hit back and it jumped back to WP7.
If it's like shown, an emulator, I'm great with it, if I have to flash my device, screw it, dont want it.
If I can dump 6.1 on my WP7 device to run when I want to, it opens a whole world of 10+ years of Apps that will run on it (and there is a lot more of 6.0+ apps than there is WP7 apps)
I would want to dowload it and install cabs to it, if I can't do that, then I have no needs for it.
I would much rather use an emulator on my phone than waste $150-200 on a HD2 that ran Windows Mobile 6.5 anyway.
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I gotta admit that I didn't watch the video. I just assumed it was the one I found over at Twitter last night where a modified bootloader was shown that started WM on a WP device. An emulator would certainly be nice to play with. But I don't see me using it for more than just bringing back some nostalgic thoughts.
I dont see the reason for the hate....it may not make sense to run win95 on currrent hardware but u cant apply the same logic when wp7 is missing features/apps wm had.
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I dont see the reason for the hate....it may not make sense to run win95 on currrent hardware but u cant apply the same logic when wp7 is missing features/apps wm had.
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I wouldn't call it hate. Lack of comprehension maybe. If I felt Windows Phone was missing features and/or apps I was really dependent on, I simply hadn't bought into it.
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whats th epoinr of doing this>
IMO, going backwards not a good idea.
for me it is, i have great navigarion app for WM and it don't work on WP7, iOS and on Android with problems, or GCzII app for Geocaching, so for me great idea
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for me it is, i have great navigarion app for WM and it don't work on WP7, iOS and on Android with problems, or GCzII app for Geocaching, so for me great idea
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True, true - AutoMapa rocks
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for me it is, i have great navigarion app for WM and it don't work on WP7, iOS and on Android with problems, or GCzII app for Geocaching, so for me great idea
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True, true - AutoMapa rocks
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It would rock to have Garmin Mobile XT up and running via this loader on WP7. I'm still running WM6.5 because of this software.
This will prove very useful for running emulators, flash, and legacy apps. Don't dis it. It's an app, not a flashed os. I'm wondering, though, if they could use any of the code from this to develop an android emulator. I mean, my windows phone rocks, but extra compatibility is always welcome. Keep it up DFT
i would use just to trick people into thinking i flashed it onto my focus
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I dont see the reason for the hate....it may not make sense to run win95 on currrent hardware but u cant apply the same logic when wp7 is missing features/apps wm had.
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Just think. if you can run Windows 95 on a phone you can play Doom.... 1 or 2
Well if you have a keyboard...
Hey,
I just installed the Consumer Preview, and I think we can find hints to WP8 in it.
For example, various hubs found on WP are in W8. An interesting one is the Messaging hub, which like on WP allow you to chat with your Facebook and Messenger contacts, I think the next logical step is SMS syncing.
Another thing I noticed is that Zune and Windows Media Player is completely missing. There's a seperate music and video player.
Also, when I plug in my HTC HD7 nothing happens. It doesn't say installing drivers, Phone found, .. nothing.
There are also a lot of mentions of syncing throughout the OS, syncing with other devices and users. I think this will eventually mean that alle info from your Phone can be seamlessly synced to your PC and vice versa, making things a whole lot easier when you buy a new phone. Just plug in, sync and go.
There are tons of similarities too.
Multitasking is much the same, you also get a small preview window of the app.
What did you find?
I pary every day that they change their minds and not release it for laptops or PC's. It's greate for touch screens and pads though but just doesn't feel the same on non touch devices; MS will be making a big mistake if they go through with making people use a mouse and keyboard on theire PC's and non touch screen laptops.
Im using it with a mouse, and it's just fine, I dont find it hard or unnatural to use.
Some ideas are brilliant and very innovative, like metro style switching between apps, screens etc.
But at the same time it's like a double OS what is just nonsense. Two different IE10? Idiotic. No background image under tiles? Tacky.
I think they have to unite it somehow, it's still looks like a half baked beta. I won't install this stuff on my PC.
I seriously have no idea what drives these guys, but it all looks like a half way through.
^^ You really would just be happier in Apple / Linux land.
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^^ You really would just be happier in Apple / Linux land.
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Why?? I'm perfectly happy on Windows 7 64bit!
Super stable, nice looking, great features.
And a great environment for proffessional work, in my case music. Apps I use work great.
As I said, I wish Windows 8 beeing united without loosing current usability and ADDING some great 8's features.
They just want to push some stuff too much.
BTW, I seriously don't like Apple stuff at all.
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I pary every day that they change their minds and not release it for laptops or PC's. It's greate for touch screens and pads though but just doesn't feel the same on non touch devices; MS will be making a big mistake if they go through with making people use a mouse and keyboard on theire PC's and non touch screen laptops.
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I guess you know that there is a regular view also in W8?
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Why?? I'm perfectly happy on Windows 7 64bit!
Super stable, nice looking, great features.
And a great environment for proffessional work, in my case music. Apps I use work great.
As I said, I wish Windows 8 beeing united without loosing current usability and ADDING some great 8's features.
They just want to push some stuff too much.
BTW, I seriously don't like Apple stuff at all.
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they did that because some people would complain about being forced into metro, which isn't the case. But I guess either way they get complaints.
From what I have heard or have been hearing, Windows 8 sounds amazing. can't wait to get it.
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Another thing I noticed is that Zune and Windows Media Player is completely missing. There's a seperate music and video player.
Also, when I plug in my HTC HD7 nothing happens. It doesn't say installing drivers, Phone found, .. nothing.
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Well Zune was never preinstalled and when I connect my WP7 to a Windows 7 PC without Zune, it doesn't do anything either.
Windows Media Player is still there but it is just the desktop app.
im liking what i see so far with windows 8,
but on aside note,
Mobile World Congress...
no big MS stuff about windows phones
I tried Windows 8. It's not very good at all as a computer OS. I'm a power user, and I was totally lost. I can only imagine how confused your average Joe will be.
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You were lost because you hadn't worked with it. Same as if you picked up an ipad for the 1st time, a phone with a different O/S, ect. It took me about 8 hours to get the gist of the flow. Once i did though, man it's fast. I wish though the ep121 tablet i have had the resolution for snap though. That's a little dissapointing. Other than that, it's fast and smooth and actually now i wish the desktop was gone completely and everything metro.
Also anyone else have any issues with the USA today app? Seems to crash on and off on me. Other than that everything seems very stable and i LOVE the onscreen keyboard. Nothing like the crap that i had to use with Windows 7 on the tablet.
Great news
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I didnt know this. Thats good to hear!
Just read comprehensive review of current Win8.
Must say: MICROSOFT WAKE UP!
Windows 8 is the most unintuitive crap I've seen.
Layers instead of logic.
Just hope it's just another beta and some sensible people will take care of this idiocy.
As I said before, improvements have to have sense.
Why the f... they even removed the Win key.
And yes, average Joe will have no freaking idea what is this.
Any reason this is not in the Windows 8 section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1287
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Why the f... they even removed the Win key.
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What are you raving about?
The Windows key works fine in my copy of Windows 8.
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What are you raving about?
The Windows key works fine in my copy of Windows 8.
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Ah I mean Win icon on screen of course, not the physical keyboard key.
Touch the right side of screen. Win / start key is there. Its not needed on the onscreen keyboard because of this. Please try it out before you makeup stories that aren't true.
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Dont know what the hate is about, its highly intuitive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhgJ4xMyzc0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
He attempts to compare it with WinPhone, but Windows 8 is a entirely different beast. It offers a ton of information with natural movements to get things done.
Thats windows x86 btw.
One thing I'm noticing is a lack of portrait mode.
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How to run Windows on android ?
Is their any way to run windows 7 or any windows applications on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 ??
like virtual machine
ghost_j1 said:
How to run Windows on android ?
Is their any way to run windows 7 or any windows applications on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 ??
like virtual machine
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As far as i know its impossible to run win 7, but you can run win xp or 95 or 93 on it but it will be super laggy and also awkward.
But if you talking about running windows app on android, wine team is working on it (idk if they still working on it or abandoned it).
Just a theory if you can chmod linux on your tablet and you should be able to get wine working and you can run win apps with it...
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As far as i know its impossible to run win 7, but you can run win xp or 95 or 93 on it but it will be super laggy and also awkward.
But if you talking about running windows app on android, wine team is working on it (idk if they still working on it or abandoned it).
Just a theory if you can chmod linux on your tablet and you should be able to get wine working and you can run win apps with it...
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ummmm I need to install windows 7 or xp on my tab or away to convert windows app into apk coz I had unversity apps that works only on windows linux wont help me... hope to find way out something like apk simulator for apk on windows bluestack but for windows
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ummmm I need to install windows 7 or xp on my tab or away to convert windows app into apk coz I had unversity apps that works only on windows linux wont help me... hope to find way out something like apk simulator for apk on windows bluestack but for windows
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I am confused, what do you meant? do you meant that you wish to run windows app on android? or run linux app on android? or run android on windows or linux????
Look here
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bochs/
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How to run Windows on android ?
Is their any way to run windows 7 or any windows applications on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 ??
like virtual machine
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Hi Jacker31, & gjost_j
It is posible to do virtual xp and previous. Seach the forum for "Bosh".
It was compiled a few years ago for all arm base devices. But at tha time ther were no x86!
Itry to compile it but could not got over some errors.
So yes if we could find a good sourse we may give it a try!
Look
Using remote desktop (i.e. Teamviewer or Splashtop) is a much better solution than actually installing Windows.
@r2d23cpo
This remind me this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUE-gJmcGKk few years back then. Trust me, Its not worth it to try *I tried before and it lags like hell*
@Jacker31 and others
I never said it is worth it. How to run Windows on android ? thats the title.
Still I will like to have it handy. You never know of a real need that may make it give you go into this trouble. Please keep in mind that all those programs where made available only for ARM! And you will will find lots of info, none for x86 tablet.
Now I do can run Ubuntu in VNC mode, it lags but work. In fact I have it handy with Open Office. It is my main project to try run Ubuntu Natively. But I have post pone all projects due to health issues.
r2d23cpo said:
@Jacker31 and others
I never said it is worth it. How to run Windows on android ? thats the title.
Still I will like to have it handy. You never know of a real need that may make it give you go into this trouble. Please keep in mind that all those programs where made available only for ARM! And you will will find lots of info, none for x86 tablet.
Now I do can run Ubuntu in VNC mode, it lags but work. In fact I have it handy with Open Office. It is my main project to try run Ubuntu Natively. But I have post pone all projects due to health issues.
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I didnt run it on my Tab3 as I only got it on 2014, but i have tried it on Galaxy Note and my Galaxy Wonder. It take up plenty of space and it will give disappoint result.
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I didnt run it on my Tab3 as I only got it on 2014, but i have tried it on Galaxy Note and my Galaxy Wonder. It take up plenty of space and it will give disappoint result.
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J,
hi, how much ram did you allocate to the emulator ?
i had a thought of using bosch to run a minimal pe windows [minixp]
i'm going to try 800mb ram on the tab 4, on the tab 3 i believe only the p5220 would
have enough ram available for a semi-decent run.
@ghost_j1
Else i think the only solution is ssh/vnc as long as your connect is reliable.
@r2d23cpo
r2, get better soon ! you've got work to do !
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moonbutt74 said:
J,
hi, how much ram did you allocate to the emulator ?
i had a thought of using bosch to run a minimal pe windows [minixp]
i'm going to try 800mb ram on the tab 4, on the tab 3 i believe only the p5220 would
have enough ram available for a semi-decent run.
@ghost_j1
Else i think the only solution is ssh/vnc as long as your connect is reliable.
@r2d23cpo
r2, get better soon ! you've got work to do !
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@moonbutt74, i cant remember as it was quite long a go.
@r2d23cpo, how was your shoulder?
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@moonbutt74, i cant remember as it was quite long a go.
@r2d23cpo, how was your shoulder?
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Not good. It so stupid. I did not got any accident It just got worst with time.. rest of the Arm is ok. Trounle only the shoulder. But makes thing hard. Geting a bath or pulling my pants up is a pain. What a joke. Makes working on computer a litle hard. Thank i ha the tablet with a Wall stand for LCD on the the bed. So I use one hand while try to rest.
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Not good. It so stupid. I did not got any accident It just got worst with time.. rest of the Arm is ok. Trounle only the shoulder. But makes thing hard. Geting a bath or pulling my pants up is a pain. What a joke. Makes working on computer a litle hard. Thank i ha the tablet with a Wall stand for LCD on the the bed. So I use one hand while try to rest.
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Thats sound bad, hope you get well soon. It will take quite a long while to fully recover. Don't lift heavy thing or it will be worst.