Can I trust Chinese wholesalers on the web? - Desire General

I found a portal of wholesalers and factories of China and Taiwan
some of them ask for a minimum of 50 pcs of Desire and a few accept to sale a single Desire.
I asked live to a saleswoman about if it's the real original and final HTC Desire and she told me yes.
She told me it will cost me 190$ + DHL and only 4 days delivery time
could this be real or it's a thief?

Sounds a bit suspect? Bit too good to be true?
Look for reviews of the wholesaler on Google and see if they are reputable?

I didn't like the way of payment: Wester Union

vegetaleb said:
I didn't like the way of payment: Wester Union
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Western Union always smells like Scam!!!

It was so good to beleive I can get the Desire for 190$

suspicious
sounds very suspicius - probably it's just a look alike -I have seen many of them on the web for the diamond - diamond 2 etc.
ask if it support two sims - chinese phones usually do - and if it does it's sure a fake

Yes definitevely scammers
I googled the zip code and name they gave me
and they stole many people yet

No original Stuff in China available for us average people
Never trust chinese Companies. None of them have Licence to sell e.g. original HTC Phones/Parts to anywhere in the World.
Any known Company in the World gives legal Certificates and Licences to their Wholesalers.
None of those chinese Wholesalers have any legal base to sell these products to Europe or the US.
Price: How would genuine Brands keep up their pricing poilicy if all those chinese wholesalers would sell cheap stuff to the whole world?

Watch out for Chinese scams!
If you do business with those chinese fraudulents, use paypal in combination with your creditcard. this will give you the advantage of being able to stop the payment when the goods are not delivered, filing a complaint with both paypal and your credit card company.
Also, it will be useful to check out who is the domain registrar/registree using http://who.is/. If the full set of data on the domain (name, adress, telephone etc.) is available, it is less likely that it is a scam. Also look up other people's experiences with the particular seller.
Anyhow, the father of a friend of mine fell in the trap of such a site. After full payment he got a mail from the seller telling him that the Chinese customs would not let the package true and that, if he wanted to receive his goods, he had to bribe them. Of course the Chinese firm offered to do this for him, trying to lure him into transferring more money still. Long story short, it just a scam like the "Nigerian Prince" scams.

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Touch Pro2 for $500??

Can anyone confirm this website??
http://www.communicareinc.com/Htc/Htc-touch-Pro-2-p17.html
bobdude5 said:
Can anyone confirm this website??
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I would stay away from this site until someone confirms a successful transaction. The domain name was registered in Feb this year which is very recent!
Their domain name registration details are different to their contact details on the website.
Website contact = Florida
Domain name registration = Saudi Arabia
Code:
Administrative Contact:
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Hasan Shehatah ([email protected])
+1.96636779199
Fax: 1.
sharbatly st. alsafa dist.
makkah, JEDDAH 009662
SA
Creation date: 19 Feb 2009 23:13:47
Expiration date: 19 Feb 2010 23:13:00
damn those scammers! trying to scam me on ebay and have me send a g1 to nigeria..jerks
nice thinking man i was going to let the price get the best of me but you saved me..thank you
Scam for sure be carefull
lol and they use a yahoo account
http://largesseworld.com has the same offer, selling Touch Pro2's for $500. I emailed the contact asking if this was a typo or if they had them, and got a reply from Mr. Tim Cuhls
that read:
Yes we have it in stock and ready to be shipped.
Shipping is Overnight.
Send me your delivery address.
Who asks for a delivery address like that? After a bit of research I found out that TP2 release date is 6/1. I replied, asking about that, and was told:
We have them directly from HTC.
I'm thinking definitely a scam. The pictures I've seen of others selling them actually make me think of cheap Chinese knockoffs, too.
only prototype devices are out, and given to some telco ppl, no actual production devices are in the market yet...
pleas be careful of scam....
rassah said:
http://largesseworld.com has the same offer, selling Touch Pro2's for $500. I emailed the contact asking if this was a typo or if they had them, and got a reply from Mr. Tim Cuhls
that read:
Yes we have it in stock and ready to be shipped.
Shipping is Overnight.
Send me your delivery address.
Who asks for a delivery address like that? After a bit of research I found out that TP2 release date is 6/1. I replied, asking about that, and was told:
We have them directly from HTC.
I'm thinking definitely a scam. The pictures I've seen of others selling them actually make me think of cheap Chinese knockoffs, too.
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Yeah, they're legit
From: Tim Cuhls [[email protected]]
Subject: Re: Order
Hi,
We could not process your Credit Card.
Payment is via Money Gram Wire Transfer.
Do you know where to find a Money Gram Agent?
Regards,
Tim
Definitely a scam! stay clear
Well if there were one post here of a successful purchase, I might feel a bit differently-
At least the guy is consistent- here is the reply I received:
Hi,
Yes we have it available.
Yes it is the international version of the phone.
Yes it is 100% unlocked.
How many pieces do you require and where will you be shipping to?
Regards,
Tim Cuhls
- I should have known that XDA would have something on this one.
Another TGTBT
Got this reply to an on-line add.
Talk about a scam!!! If this was real I don't think they would have anything in stock at these prices.
Thanks for the mail and the interest in our product.
Well the HTC Touch Pro 2 we have is:
Brand New In Box
Factory Sealed
Unlocked to be used by any provider
Original
In box with complete accessories
And with the minimum warranty of 1 full year international warranty.
The HTC Touch Pro 2 Cost $220.00USD.
Shipping Fee Cost $30.00USD
Grand Total Amount Cost Is $250.00USD (Including Shipping Fee).
Shipment will be made via: UPS OR FedEx Express.
Delivery Details: 24/48Hrs By Air To Door Steps.
Payment Options:
10Unit Order Or Above : Pay Pal Payment.
1-10Unit Order : Western Union Payment.
To Proceed to the next step on ordering do get back with the following delivery details:
Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Country:
Phone #:
Do get back ASAP.
Tech Talk Limited
Resources Manager
Kenneth Buttler
+447035963783
Thanks.
I honestly don't think there is a way to but a touch pro 2 before they actually start making them lol I am sure there are a few but they aren't actually producing them in masses and the few that do exist aren't for sale, or at least I am pretty sure about all that
Tell them to just forward a handset serial number confirmation prior to shipping so you can validate authenticity with HTC....
I'll bet you get a tumbleweed to blow across your desk before you get a response.
SCAM!!!!!
It is definitely a small scale scam, they are using a 30 day trial from a company who helps you build an on-line store, They do not have any products and will take your money.
man.... if it's too good to be true.......
All Scams!
Trust me, ive been looking. Tired of buying wack att branded phones so this time gonna just not be a cheap ass and but an unlocked htc original tp2. I mean even when its branded its gonna be an easy $300 with 2yr contract. Might as well pay a few bills more for the unbranded. Ive seen them now online as low as $300! For sure scams! Id wait til end of this year to buy one when they are in full circulation.
It would be funny to ask one of them why they are selling them so cheap if they actuallly could sel;l them for like 2-3 times more because they arent out yet and see what they say.
what would be even funnier to ask is how they are sellling them when HTC hasn't started making them yet lol they only made a few models for tests ext. but they actually haven't made any to be sold yet.
According to this http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/16/unlocked-htc-touch-pro2-to-retail-for-880-touch-diamond2-for/ HTC has set the price for the TP2 at $880.
Unbranded TP2 planned for 659,99€ (860$) in france. The status is unavailable now...
http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Telepho...Aphone/HTC/2856666-Smartphone-Touch-Pro-2.htm
I wait, I wait....
I ASked BBB to check them out
rassah said:
http://largesseworld.com has the same offer, selling Touch Pro2's for $500. I emailed the contact asking if this was a typo or if they had them, and got a reply from Mr. Tim Cuhls
that read:
Yes we have it in stock and ready to be shipped.
Shipping is Overnight.
Send me your delivery address.
Who asks for a delivery address like that? After a bit of research I found out that TP2 release date is 6/1. I replied, asking about that, and was told:
We have them directly from HTC.
I'm thinking definitely a scam. The pictures I've seen of others selling them actually make me think of cheap Chinese knockoffs, too.
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I sent an email to the CA Better business Bureau asking them to check out this company, will let you know results

how do i import desire from UK to INDIA ???

hi guys, i started a new thread few days ago for the very same fact that i wanted to know whether handtec/clove technology can able to ship htc desire from UK to INDIA....
they said they will be mailing the parcel with international courier. they also warned me that once the parcel leaves their office for delivery to my address, they really can't control if any customs duties are applied once the parcel enters indian borders.... i am also scared that customs officials might take some bribe to give my parcel.... this also couldnt be confirmed from the company side selling this product that it will not happen like that....
thats the sole reason i am very much apprehended to book online... bloody india... it will never ever mature... people r so sick... being an indian, its a shame for me to tell this very true fact.... i hate to be an indian....
sorry for going off topic.... i wanna know for sure that desire reaches me without any problem from UK to INDIA once i make purchase online from either handte.co.uk/clove.co.uk.....
kindly anyone throw some light on this issue.... even local courier people are not aware of the fact that it will be delivered for sure....
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hi guys, i started a new thread few days ago for the very same fact that i wanted to know whether handtec/clove technology can able to ship htc desire from UK to INDIA....
they said they will be mailing the parcel with international courier. they also warned me that once the parcel leaves their office for delivery to my address, they really can't control if any customs duties are applied once the parcel enters indian borders.... i am also scared that customs officials might take some bribe to give my parcel.... this also couldnt be confirmed from the company side selling this product that it will not happen like that....
thats the sole reason i am very much apprehended to book online... bloody india... it will never ever mature... people r so sick... being an indian, its a shame for me to tell this very true fact.... i hate to be an indian....
sorry for going off topic.... i wanna know for sure that desire reaches me without any problem from UK to INDIA once i make purchase online from either handte.co.uk/clove.co.uk.....
kindly anyone throw some light on this issue.... even local courier people are not aware of the fact that it will be delivered for sure....
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Did you ship it with a courier like DHL or the regular Airmail? DHL are almost guaranteed to pass it through customs but airmail depends.
Nice to see that you are ashamed of your own country you idiot!!! Ever thought of paying the damn customs duty because you ARE SUPPOSED to? Morons like you keep putting the country to shame. Grow up and be responsible for what you owe to the country.
Now that I have it off my chest, either you can get it imported from outside and leave it to destiny how the phone reaches you; ask someone you know abroad to buy it and get it along for you or wait till its launched in India so you can LEGALLY buy it by paying the full amount owed for the phone .... And please keep your anti-national drivel off these boards the next time. Hating your country is sooooo 1970s!!!
I've shipped quite a lot of expensive stuff, and normal stuff to India, mainly Chennia but also to Pune via couriers such as DHL and it's always got there. Post / airmail is a different matter - I just wouldn't trust it, for some of the reasons you mention. In my experience as long as a good courier is used then you will be OK.
Clove etc are quite right in not being able to guarantee delivery to you or custom charges, these are completely outside of their control. Importing stuff into the UK can be the same - sometimes I've been charged, sometimes not, and that's without trying to dodge the import tax. You should expect to pay the import duty and add that to how much to plan to spend on the phone if you want to get it before it's sold in India.
As the previous poster seems to suggest there are legal restrictions preventing you importing the phone then you may want to think twice or get someone from the UK to buy it for you and send it out.
India's not such a bad place there are plenty worse.
P.S I understand you're frustration, I know many people that feel the same as you.
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Did you ship it with a courier like DHL or the regular Airmail? DHL are almost guaranteed to pass it through customs but airmail depends.
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i want the parcel to be delivered by DHL... thats my preferred courier service.... what would u say???? will i get it in time if i use DHL to ship desire from UK to INDIA ?
manuvaidya said:
i want the parcel to be delivered by DHL... thats my preferred courier service.... what would u say???? will i get it in time if i use DHL to ship desire from UK to INDIA ?
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You're guaranteed to get it on time with DHL. They don't mess around. The only thing is that I am almost certain you will have to pay customs unless the depot is lazy.
shantul said:
Nice to see that you are ashamed of your own country you idiot!!! Ever thought of paying the damn customs duty because you ARE SUPPOSED to? Morons like you keep putting the country to shame. Grow up and be responsible for what you owe to the country.
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i think you are proud about the GREAT system in india & i must appreciate that people like you are making this country as it is at present now... ever wondered why india is still a developing country with standards not at all comparable to most other countries ????
shantul said:
And please keep your anti-national drivel off these boards the next time. Hating your country is sooooo 1970s!!!
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i think i have right to express what i feel. this is a community forum & it has several members...and moreover india is not urs only... it belongs to all of us who are residing in here...moreover, being a citizen of this country, i have legal right to express what is good & what is bad in this country, which is an effort to improve the standards which are prevalent in this country as a plague & not in any way to degrade the value of my own country....
i hope i have conveyed what i meant by those words to you now.... stop judging people so impatiently, dont jump to conclusions right away buddy... nobody likes here to listen to the preachings from other members unless they r so morons to do it intentionaly... got it ???
keeping my responses to ur false allegations aside, i have mentioned it clearly in the post that is there anyone who has imported a parcel like mobile phone from UK to INDIA. i was expecting answers from people who have done what i was asking for, not that we r having a debate about the system/conditions in INDIA....
waiting for a genuine response from a valid members who care to help me rather than preaching me how to behave on public forums. i hope no one expects such treatments from other members... i assume all are well behaved and well educated here... thanks for giving me an opportunity to express my views on this issue...
abc27 said:
You're guaranteed to get it on time with DHL. They don't mess around. The only thing is that I am almost certain you will have to pay customs unless the depot is lazy.
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I would assume it to be the same as people found when trying to import Nexus Ones and iPads to the UK. When they could be bothered, the customs charged them the VAT and some got it through without paying the VAT. I am sure I have read it on one of the other forums that a guy shipped a Nexus One through DHL from US to UK and the DHL guys asked him to come and collect it as he had not paid the VAT on the phone.
abc27 said:
You're guaranteed to get it on time with DHL. They don't mess around. The only thing is that I am almost certain you will have to pay customs unless the depot is lazy.
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any idea how much would be that customs duty for my desire when the parcel arrives in india ??? you are very informative till now... & quite specific to my questions.. i got the answers what i wanted from you except one thing... its how much i should be paying as customs when it arrives here...
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any idea how much would be that customs duty for my desire when the parcel arrives in india ??? you are very informative till now... & quite specific to my questions.. i got the answers what i wanted from you except one thing... its how much i should be paying as customs when it arrives here...
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I really couldn't tell you. I know DHL charge a small fee (€4 over here) of their own if they have to collect customs charges but since i've never been to India I can't really tell you how much you'll pay in customs.
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I really couldn't tell you. I know DHL charge a small fee (€4 over here) of their own if they have to collect customs charges but since i've never been to India I can't really tell you how much you'll pay in customs.
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thanks buddy... i will try ordering it tomorrow.... lets see what happens at customs. i will pay extra 2.5k INR if the customs officials ask me.... what to do, i need to compromise to get the things what i want right ???
Sure I mentioned this to you before, but here we go again. I ordered mine from Clove and shipped it with their express to Pune. They Use Fedex not DHL. I did get my parcel within 3 days. It had been opened for customs check, but nothing tampered with. Did have to pay around INR 6000 on delivery for the local delivery service and the Customs duty fees. Good luck

HTC Desire from China bought on eBay

Does anyone have any experience buying the HTC Desire from China?
I read that the Nexus One has been cloned. I see no official report that the HTC Desire has also been cloned, but I have noticed a lot of suppliers selling the Desire through Alibaba. I am wondering if these are clones too.
Today I bought an HTC Desire off eBay from China which is supposed to be brand new in the box.
It was rediculously cheap - 50-60% cheaper than the cost of an HTC Desire from a US seller.
Now I am worried it's a clone.
I have protection from eBay PayPal so I should be ok, but I am curious to hear what people think.
Also, does anyone know of a program which will read and tell me the hardware specifications of my HTC? I'm looking for one of those apps like Intel provides to give you the model and serial number of your processor on your PC. I figure this is one way of confirming whether I have a real HTC phone when it arrives.
Any link to the eBay auction?
The "clones" of these high end cellphones in China are pretty fake. They resemble the real ones, but one can easily tell the difference. They definitely don't run android, and run some variation of Linux that is skinned to look like iPhone/WinMo/Android.
Once you have it in hand, it would be very obvious to you whether it is fake, either from the hardware or from the software, so there is no need to use any software to check the hardware specification.
There is no Nexus One/Desire clones that runs real Android or equipped with Snapdragon. Again, if it is a fake, it will be VERY obvious.
Thanks for your reply.
Here is the link.
I will ask the seller to send me pics he took instead of the ones he copied.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260611334391&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
$170 US for a Desire!! from a zero feedback seller in China.....id never go near such.
I know.
I am betting on eBay and PayPal buyer protection to save me if needed.
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I know.
I am betting on eBay and PayPal buyer protection to save me if needed.
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Judging from the fact that the image is just ripped from some blog site and not even an HTC press release shot, combined with the sellers score: 0. So no sales or even any buys to the account...
I would be very surprised if this guy has even seen a Desire in person, forget you receiving one in the mail from this seller
Is it really worth the trouble?
I can tell you with no doubt, its a fake one! Because even in China, you won't get a real 2nd hand desire at that price.
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Sent from my HTC Desire
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Judging from the fact that the image is just ripped from some blog site and not even an HTC press release shot, combined with the sellers score: 0. So no sales or even any buys to the account...
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This alone does not convince me.
When I sell items, I am lazy and rip images and descriptions from other listing.
However, add this to the fact that the seller has no scores...so maybe.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
If it's too good to be true, it definitely is.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Are you serious when you said you bought it? HTC desire for 170 unlocked..really?
Where I live, I can barely get a dumbphone unlocked for that money.
Well, the picture was taken from some blog and the spec were copied from HTC website. That page alone can't tell whether the phone is real or not.
But as I said before, those Chinese clones of high end phones look really fake, and those Chinese sellers are not trying to scam people into believe that they are real. There is a market for cheap look-alike phones in China, and that market is what those "clones" are for.
People, the $170 final price is the result of an AUCTION, not a buy-it-now price. My bet is that this phone is real, but the fact that the seller is from China, together with the fact that he has 0 feedback, making no one wanted to bid on it. I highly doubt that he will ship you the phone, given how low the final price is. He will probably make up an excuse not to ship you the phone (out of stock, wrong listing, blah blah blah), and then refund you (I you had paid already). If he did ship you the phone, you win. If he shipped you a super fake clone, Paypal will get your money back. The only thing you will lose is time.
I took a chance on a simular "deal" for a HD2 and I was sent a small pink noname brand(actually works, my woman loves it) and a FAKE Iphone 3G. Get you paypal refund info ready.
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tsekh501 said:
Well, the picture was taken from some blog and the spec were copied from HTC website. That page alone can't tell whether the phone is real or not.
But as I said before, those Chinese clones of high end phones look really fake, and those Chinese sellers are not trying to scam people into believe that they are real. There is a market for cheap look-alike phones in China, and that market is what those "clones" are for.
People, the $170 final price is the result of an AUCTION, not a buy-it-now price. My bet is that this phone is real, but the fact that the seller is from China, together with the fact that he has 0 feedback, making no one wanted to bid on it. I highly doubt that he will ship you the phone, given how low the final price is. He will probably make up an excuse not to ship you the phone (out of stock, wrong listing, blah blah blah), and then refund you (I you had paid already). If he did ship you the phone, you win. If he shipped you a super fake clone, Paypal will get your money back. The only thing you will lose is time.
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I had the same thoughts.
I will see what I do.
I have not paid yet and can back out if I like by cancelling my transaction before payment.
I emailed the seller and asked for real pictures, why he is selling, what the serial number is, etc. I will see if he answers.
Unfortunately the seller's English is pretty bad so communicating is difficult.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
HTC doesn't sell cellphones in China offically
ebay buyer protection isn't worth ****. I got screwed when buying a PDA a couple years ago. ebay contacted me and told me not to send payment as his account was suspended. Unfortunately, I already had and received a box with a small rock in it which weighed what the PDA should.
I got about $200 back from ebay but I paid the guy $600.
USE YOUR CREDIT CARD AND YOU'LL BE FINE. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY.
Here are my golden rules for ebay, I hope this helps ....
NEVER buy a 'brand new' phone from ebay. You probably wont ever be able to return it, and might not have any kind of warranty.
Never buy anything from a seller with zero feedback. You simply cannot trust them if they do not have any reputation.
Never buy anything from China (unless you are sure about the seller).
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Here are my golden rules for ebay, I hope this helps ....
NEVER buy a 'brand new' phone from ebay. You probably wont ever be able to return it, and might not have any kind of warranty.
Never buy anything from a seller with zero feedback. You simply cannot trust them if they do not have any reputation.
Never buy anything from China (unless you are sure about the seller).
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Add to this list only buy form China if you think the money is worth the risk
But 170 bucks isnt worth it for me maby for you then take your chances
0 feedback seller from China...
I bought a while ago a Sony headset from China (was dead cheap so gave it a try), the seller had plenty of feedback and I eventually got the headphones. They looked so good, very real. But the sound... was worse than the cheapest pound store ones!! Funny thing is the seller disapperaed from Ebay straight after the paypal payment... no refund for the fakes. I def learned my lesson.
I have seen a lot of this fake seller in china, all of them have 0 feedback or some fake feedbacks. Usually the sell all phones they can in a short period of time, and after that you get nothing and they will delete their ebay account.
I hope this one is not like it
It's one of either two things.
You got scammed and will be sent nothing (Which is what i'm expecting)
Or
You're going to be sent a very very bad nexus one clone.

[Q] About to buy Epic Touch online, is this store legit?

Ok, so I found this site that sells wholesale electronics called ElecStreet. It says you can purchase an unlocked SGS II Epic 4G Touch for $202.50 at the lowest "VIP" price.
I need to know if this looks legit or if anyone has purchased merchandise from this site.
The site also says if you buy two items and spend over $400, you get a free iPod Touch or Sony PSP. ???
Please feel free to investigate!
ElecStreet Online
If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
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If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
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Ditto. 10 chars
Yep.
On the bottom, their "certifications" stickers are not clickable to verify, which they should be. And their one "Verify" button points to some Chinese website.
Fake. Not a Doubt
Android Amateur said:
Ok, so I found this site that sells wholesale electronics called ElecStreet. It says you can purchase an unlocked SGS II Epic 4G Touch for $202.50 at the lowest "VIP" price.
I need to know if this looks legit or if anyone has purchased merchandise from this site.
The site also says if you buy two items and spend over $400, you get a free iPod Touch or Sony PSP. ???
Please feel free to investigate!
ElecStreet Online
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I can tell you that they are a China based company. That being said I know nothing else about them, and everything they sell looks in now way legit AT ALL.
For example:
http://www.elecstreet.com/views.asp?hw_id=2485
That is an Apple iMac MC814LL/A for $399(359.10 VIP according to them) That is a $2000 Apple computer. No way in hell a company even at wholesale would ever be able to sell that computer for even their non-VIP price.
They also advertise
http://www.elecstreet.com/views.asp?hw_id=2454
That is a Sony VAIO Z Series VGN-Z591U which retails for $3200-$3400 and they want under $400 for it. Not even possible to obtain it for that price, even if they got it straight from the Sony factory.
My official statement is they are going to take your money and hide in their country, and you will be forced to dispute the claim with your bank.
Yeah don't do it bro. You will send money to them and u wont see anything.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
Bogus! Like posted above the "verifed " icons should be clickable and lead you to said website verifying the website. Those icons either do nothing or lead to china crap!
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i just might buy one!
if you do decide to buy one from here, use paypal. your protected. if you dont get your order you file a claim and if its bogus, paypal will investigate and refund you your purchase amount.
this is why i buy crap on ebay from china sellers. if its a fake phone you get, you also get a refund because they are advertising it as legit. take a screen shot of the page before you buy.
Khilbron said:
I can tell you that they are a China based company. That being said I know nothing else about them, and everything they sell looks in now way legit AT ALL.
My official statement is they are going to take your money and hide in their country, and you will be forced to dispute the claim with your bank.
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I have found that they are a real Trading company in China, they have a phone number, physical address and live chat support that is not automated or a bot.
The live chat person said that PayPal was not available until AFTER the first purchase which is through Western Union.
I can't find any bad reviews or customers saying it is a scam or that they had an issue with the site.
I just don't know.
Ummm hello! That yells you right there, pay by western union, lmao! I hate for you to lose your money, but I won't feel bad for you as there are plenty of people warning you!
Once you pay via western union then you can use paypal, LOL that is a good one!!!
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BiffTirkle said:
i just might buy one!
if you do decide to buy one from here, use paypal. your protected. if you dont get your order you file a claim and if its bogus, paypal will investigate and refund you your purchase amount.
this is why i buy crap on ebay from china sellers. if its a fake phone you get, you also get a refund because they are advertising it as legit. take a screen shot of the page before you buy.
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The thing is, they told me I can't use PayPal until after being a return customer, with that being said, they want me to send a Western Union payment to a Zhen Zhang?
I just don't trust it...
Oh, and the reason you don't see bad reviews is they will burn that site out in a week, change a few pics and make a new site. They post on craigslist all the time, same crap!
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The live chat person said that PayPal was not available until AFTER the first purchase which is through Western Union.
damn! that certainly makes it an inconvenience. paypal was the clincher for me. if you do buy it, let us know how it works out. i can wait. i might wait to buy one until cm7 is available for it.
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the sketchy part is the western union. i mean, the whole site is sketchy, but paypal is safe. if you have to do western union first then i wouldnt do it. you might be able to check with paypal to see if they have any complaints against the site.
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well, just for kicks i tried to follow through with a purchase. when i chose to check out with paypal it took me back to a list of their payment methods.
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this is the email i got from them when i tried to place the order via paypal.
Sales Promotion for National Day
You are welcome to register to be our member first,and it's free for registration.
When your order amount is over 300$,you will get a free gift.
For one item ordered, you will get product price.
For two items ordered, you will get vip price and some discount in the shipping cost.
For the same 3 items ordered, you will get a discount of 5% of the product price and another one for free.
For more than 3 items ordered, you will get vip price and some discount in the shipping cost.
For more than 6 items ordered, you will get vip price and free shipping as well as a free gift.
The more you order,the more discount you will get,and you will get more savings.
Dear friend:
Thank you very much for your interest and order.
You buy today,we can send your order out today and email the tracking number for you to track the order status.and you can get your order in 3-5 days.
All items are original, brand new and real with 1 to 3 years original manufacturer's warranty, we hope to set up a long-term business relationship with you.
The following is the details of your order list :
Order Number : *******************
Product Model: Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch *1
Product Price : 225 USD
Shipping Charge: 40 USD
Total Price : 265 USD
Receiver's Name : biff tirkle
Phone No. : *************
Shipping ******************
Shipping Method: UPS\EMS\DHL\FEDEX\TNT
Please confirm your information and your shipping address which we will use for delivery, in order you can receive your items without any dealy.
We accept western union and money gram at present . You can also use your master card, visa card, or credit card to pay for your order in a local western union or money gram agency. As paypal makes every deal last a long time and sometimes lead our business to be cheated by disloyal buyers, and we have much bad experience. So now we can accept paypal for old customers or for the next order you buy from us,sorry for the inconvenience,friend .
This is the Receiver's account information :
1.The Western Union address is as below:
- first name is ZHAN
- last name is ZHENG
-City: Beijing
-Country: China
-Post code : 100088
-We need the below info from you after you have made the payment:
- MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number)
- sender's first name and last name on the print copy of the receipt
- print copy of the transfer receipt
This is our company guarantee :
1. We are legal company and our business is legitimate.You can click the button of 'about us ' to check our business license , we do business by law and honesty.
2. You can click the button of 'send goods' to check the tracking number from our customers, we ship items to customers every day. We will offer you tracking number at the same day you pay for your order . It is safe for you to track your items in shipping agency website.
3. We are able to provide stamped preformal invoice as valid as contract for law . You can ask for money back by the invoice and your order number if you don't receive your items on time .
4.You may check the truth of our website by the official website www.iocu.us , the wicp number is 9201127339
Our return policy is : 15 days full refund , 30 days exchange a new product .
Should you have any questions or comments ,kindly feel free to contact us.
Friend,i am online now, you can also chat with me online.
We are looking forward to getting your order shipped out at the earliest time.
Thanks and best regards
Representative : Elsa
Website : www.elecstreet.com
Company : Beijing Wantong Foreign Trading Co,Ltd
Tel: 0086-010-89649481
MSN : [email protected]
Email : [email protected]
there is a guy on craigslist selling this phone new in box for 350. i might pick it up tuesday if i feel like it. who knows, maybe he purchased some from this company and is making a profit. as long as the esn is clear im happy.

Repairers and enthusiasts beware!

I would like to share with the good members of XDA about an online parts seller that is fraudulent and deceptive. As the owner of a mobile phone repair business located in Oceania I used the services of a company called etradesupply, at first they seem legitimate and parts came as advertised as OEM.
Good people, professionals and enthusiasts, beware, this company is a fraud!
I hope to make aware some who may be victims these advertised OEM products are fake, 2nds or not new as described.
homer285 said:
I would like to share with the good members of XDA about an online parts seller that is fraudulent and deceptive. As the owner of a mobile phone repair business located in Oceania I used the services of a company called etradesupply, at first they seem legitimate and parts came as advertised as OEM.
Good people, professionals and enthusiasts, beware, this company is a fraud!
I hope to make aware some who may be victims these advertised OEM products are fake, 2nds or not new as described.
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Do you have any proof to backup this statement?
I only provide a feedback about their practices, you take it as you like, but mark my words you may regret dealing with them as I have and thats all I am going to say on the matter.
Tks @homer285 for warning us. Put this name on my buyer warning list. However I'm not sure about this company is scam or not.......
Do you really need a shop to do the work? These phones are held together by glue lol. I replaced my screen on my Z1s in under 45 minutes. There is a video on youtube how to do it.
Anyone have any opinions on replacement of the aluminum chasis of the z1? Mine has a dent near the headphone jack, is it easy to replace or is it better to take it to a sony care center(i don't care much about the price, unless it's totally outrageous).
Fraud? I've made several orders from this company myself and always got the parts as described. So what exactly is fraudulent about this company?

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