First off let me say, you guys have done a great job in getting this project as far as it has. XDAndroid is great!
As much as I try to use it full time, the battery drain issue is a drag. If i'm lucky ill get about 6 hours with regular use (only keep gtalk and gmail running in the background) but alas this just isnt long enough in my hectic life, as my journeys into public are usually more than 6 hours.
So what are the chances of battery drain improvement? Is there any hope that it can be improved? Some fine tuning with the kernel and the drivers? Or is this as good as it gets?
Keep up the good work guys.
This project is literally being reverse-engineered... so it's not exactly easy.
Plus, power management always seems to have some fancy proprietary features behind it to be truly robust, which will take a long time for this project to sort out.
It's one of those things that kinda kills a project as well - not that it's killed this project by any means, but it's one of those 800lb gorillas that everyone tries to ignore - mainly because of the difficulty that is inherent.
silverkiller said:
First off let me say, you guys have done a great job in getting this project as far as it has. XDAndroid is great!
As much as I try to use it full time, the battery drain issue is a drag. If i'm lucky ill get about 6 hours with regular use (only keep gtalk and gmail running in the background) but alas this just isnt long enough in my hectic life, as my journeys into public are usually more than 6 hours.
So what are the chances of battery drain improvement? Is there any hope that it can be improved? Some fine tuning with the kernel and the drivers? Or is this as good as it gets?
Keep up the good work guys.
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I honestly believe the battery life could be improved. We're still at a rather incomplete stage, after all.. seeing as how we lack GPS, Camera, and complete Bluetooth support? I know there was work recently done to cleanup some low-level kernel parts which improved headset support. I'd say that it's not hopeless because if the G1 can run Android reasonably well, the HTC Touch Pro, Diamond, etc.. all could as well. That's just my take on it.
I didn't mean to imply it couldn't be improved - not by a long shot. Just that it is a mysterious piece in the puzzle.
It's not so cut-and-dry as say GPS - it works or it doesn't. Battery life, it's one of those fuzzy things that seems to be different for everyone. So I certainly hope (and feel) that it can be improved, just don't expect it to happen anytime soon.
i hope to sell my fuze in the near future, April and buy a g1 yayy.
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i hope to sell my fuze in the near future, April and buy a g1 yayy.
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Not sure how this applies to this thread... or why you would choose a G1 when there's so many better Android devices out there now. But that still doesn't explain why you posted in this thread.
Back to the thread, I'm hoping for some battery drain improvement... the camera, GPS, BT, etc would all be very nice, but I could use Android full time without them. It's exceedingly difficult to use Android full time with the battery in the state it's in.
I agree. While I do like the functionality in the state its in, it is not practical for me to use a phone o/s that can't last 6 hours with moderate use. I went back to winmo for the first time in a couple months and was reminded how much better it is at sipping battery life. I hope to use Android full time in the future once battery life gets a bit better.
i am sure the devs will find a solution to this..same goes to certain roms..some said the battery life is bad..but then,the devs managed to fix the battery issue,boom!back to normal..so,i think XDAndroid will improve..just give it some time though..
I'm being hopeful that they can, they've worked wonders before, so I'm sure its possible.
Hoping I get a job in this economic climate as well, then I can buy me a snapdragon powered android beast.
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I agree. While I do like the functionality in the state its in, it is not practical for me to use a phone o/s that can't last 6 hours with moderate use. I went back to winmo for the first time in a couple months and was reminded how much better it is at sipping battery life. I hope to use Android full time in the future once battery life gets a bit better.
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I agree with you totally. I wish I could use Android as a main OS but that's impossible. So many issues, so many bugs!
I would like to thank all the guys who've been working on this project, I guess I'll have a glance on it in several months to see the improvements
First of all its really awesome to have Android running on Winmo.. Like all other users, im also experiencing the heavy battery drain while using android. One other i have noticed is the my fuze gets really heated up while using Android. Does anyone know why?
Lets hope the developers out there will be able to put together a decent xdandroid with gps and bluetooth anytime soon and will be able to fix the battery drain.
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First of all its really awesome to have Android running on Winmo.. Like all other users, im also experiencing the heavy battery drain while using android. One other i have noticed is the my fuze gets really heated up while using Android. Does anyone know why?
Lets hope the developers out there will be able to put together a decent xdandroid with gps and bluetooth anytime soon and will be able to fix the battery drain.
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I used to have insane heat issues when I first started running Android, but it's gotten much better for me.
Do you run wifi a lot? I know people were complaining about that heating up the device, which is kind of expected.
As far as the cause of the heat issue, I don't think anyone really *knows* why. There's a lot of issues, the main one being this is not exactly a "manufacturer-sanctioned" project - which means the devs working on this project are pretty much making educated guesses on everything. Power management has made great improvements, but still has some way to go.
I'm not sure if this project is ever going to become a "complete" replacement for WinMo, I sure hope that it one day is... but I'm not holding my breath.
With that said, I love the work the devs have done. I'm extremely impressed that the project has made it this far, so there really is no telling how far it can go or where it will end.
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There is really only one thing I have to say.....I'm not going to dwell on the fact PEOPLE cant get the camera etc.....to work. That really to me doesn't really matter.
The thing that does get me and bother me.....Is the fact that the geniuses that work at/for XDA are so worried about every else to work for xdandroid......EXCEPT the battery....lmao. Now I can deal with not being able to use the camera or GPS or whatever the case may be, but if I have 5 hours to enjoy it twice a day.......WTF....lol.....
Now I'm not trying to piss anybody off because every developer here works hard at what they do...props to them. But come one you should really prioritize the things you fix.
In short if you have 5 hours to use something that is half way done compared to 2 days to use on something halfway done......Who in this forum would be WAY more excited....lol....be honest.
This is just a suggestion....and I'm not trying to piss anybody off....but come on.....think about it.....people wouldnt want their camera to work for 5 mins and then have to charge their phone jus to make a phone call...lol.
Congrats to all the developers on all the good work they have did so far. I know its hard work to do esspecially for free. But really good job guys. I know it must be hard. Cause my thing is computers so I know phones are in a whole different
Yeah I'd have to agree that the battery drain is what is probably going to be a deal killer for me. The work to make all of the features (pretty much) function is impressive to say the least. Right now I'm running the 3/31 Eclair build and the super light ROM on my Fuze just to boot to linux, but it looks like I'll have to make sure to employ a full WinMo ROM with the Gen.Y Dual Boot. Not sure if there are issues with having functions enabled in the WinMo settings when trying to use Android, but hopefully it won't be too bad switching between the two. I know with my Rhodium it was impossible to really keep two fully functional builds up and running without having to boot into WinMo, disable a whole bunch of stuff, then finally run Haret.
Hopefully now that most of the features have been solved, power management come a bit more to the forefront, but you can't really expect great strides in short periods of time there. It's gonna take a lot of work and as mentioned earlier, power management and efficiency is some of the hardest stuff to crack. But seeing what these guys have already accomplished, I have faith. Until then, it's back to my NRG roms.
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There is really only one thing I have to say.....I'm not going to dwell on the fact PEOPLE cant get the camera etc.....to work. That really to me doesn't really matter.
The thing that does get me and bother me.....Is the fact that the geniuses that work at/for XDA are so worried about every else to work for xdandroid......EXCEPT the battery....lmao. Now I can deal with not being able to use the camera or GPS or whatever the case may be, but if I have 5 hours to enjoy it twice a day.......WTF....lol.....
Now I'm not trying to piss anybody off because every developer here works hard at what they do...props to them. But come one you should really prioritize the things you fix.
In short if you have 5 hours to use something that is half way done compared to 2 days to use on something halfway done......Who in this forum would be WAY more excited....lol....be honest.
This is just a suggestion....and I'm not trying to piss anybody off....but come on.....think about it.....people wouldnt want their camera to work for 5 mins and then have to charge their phone jus to make a phone call...lol.
Congrats to all the developers on all the good work they have did so far. I know its hard work to do esspecially for free. But really good job guys. I know it must be hard. Cause my thing is computers so I know phones are in a whole different
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Whether you're trying to or not, this kind of post really does piss me off. You have no idea what you're talking about if you say that nobody is trying to squeeze more battery life out of these devices.
Try sitting in the IRC channel for a day and watching what everybody in there talks about. Probably more than half of it will be about battery life. We all know it's not great and we all know that users will want a full day out of it. Knowing about it and fixing it are two different things and it's just not easy. There is barely any documentation available about the hardware because it's Windows Mobile, closed-source and for vendors only.
Unless you can sneak into Qualcomm's offices, steal their documentation*, and are willing to dive into the hardware and reverse-engineer the tons of software yourself, stop complaining about it. Constructive criticism is fine. Most of your post is pure complaining and doesn't help anybody or make anybody feel better about their work.
The developers thank you for using and testing this stuff, and in the future if you come across any new breakage, please don't hesitate to report it in the XDANDROID thread. But please do so in a friendly manner. None of the developers want anything to be broken.
* - This post is not meant to encourage anybody to actually plunder any official documentation.
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* - This post is not meant to encourage anybody to actually plunder any official documentation.
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But, should you work for Qualcomm or any of these companies... we wouldn't mind if some documentation did slip our way
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Whether you're trying to or not, this kind of post really does piss me off. You have no idea what you're talking about if you say that nobody is trying to squeeze more battery life out of these devices.
Try sitting in the IRC channel for a day and watching what everybody in there talks about. Probably more than half of it will be about battery life. We all know it's not great and we all know that users will want a full day out of it. Knowing about it and fixing it are two different things and it's just not easy. There is barely any documentation available about the hardware because it's Windows Mobile, closed-source and for vendors only.
Unless you can sneak into Qualcomm's offices, steal their documentation*, and are willing to dive into the hardware and reverse-engineer the tons of software yourself, stop complaining about it. Constructive criticism is fine. Most of your post is pure complaining and doesn't help anybody or make anybody feel better about their work.
The developers thank you for using and testing this stuff, and in the future if you come across any new breakage, please don't hesitate to report it in the XDANDROID thread. But please do so in a friendly manner. None of the developers want anything to be broken.
* - This post is not meant to encourage anybody to actually plunder any official documentation.
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I do not understand why people attack XDAndroid for battery issues when I am sitting at 40% without plugging my phone in for 11h 13m and 33s(looking at it right now). I mean, the situation with the battery is a hell of a lot more better than what Windows Mobile has to offer. I'd be down to a slightly lower percent by this point. And honestly, 12 hours and no need to plug in my phone? That's like a miracle with the RAPH110 :S. The battery itself is too weak to really handle one whole day to begin with. I guess people forget to account for that, too.
In my opinion, I think some people are doing away with BT now that it works and possibly running a ton of items in the background. Which of course, would hinder battery. The only things I have running are the messaging app, google talk, SMS Backup, and yeah. Never do I find myself on Wifi.. I'm always on data. So yeah. The heat issues in Android have gone down, too. Gosh.. it makes me mad that some people are so thoughtless >_<. The battery situation was an issue back in January and February. Not March/April. People seriously need to wake up. Power Management as it stands now can get you through a whole work day without needing to be on charge. I think we should focus more on ironing out bugs, cleaning up code, and adding more functionality. Sorry for the wall of text.. :S It just makes me so angry. Grr. Haha.
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I do not understand why people attack XDAndroid for battery issues when I am sitting at 40% without plugging my phone in for 11h 13m and 33s(looking at it right now). I mean, the situation with the battery is a hell of a lot more better than what Windows Mobile has to offer. I'd be down to a slightly lower percent by this point. And honestly, 12 hours and no need to plug in my phone? That's like a miracle with the RAPH110 :S. The battery itself is too weak to really handle one whole day to begin with. I guess people forget to account for that, too.
In my opinion, I think some people are doing away with BT now that it works and possibly running a ton of items in the background. Which of course, would hinder battery. The only things I have running are the messaging app, google talk, SMS Backup, and yeah. Never do I find myself on Wifi.. I'm always on data. So yeah. The heat issues in Android have gone down, too. Gosh.. it makes me mad that some people are so thoughtless >_<. The battery situation was an issue back in January and February. Not March/April. People seriously need to wake up. Power Management as it stands now can get you through a whole work day without needing to be on charge. I think we should focus more on ironing out bugs, cleaning up code, and adding more functionality. Sorry for the wall of text.. :S It just makes me so angry. Grr. Haha.
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I wish I was experiencing the same battery life that you are. Are you running the extended battery?
I'm not experiencing near the drain with my Energy ROM 23554 with sense 2.5, which I'm running with the Gen.Y dualboot app. Truth is, the Fuze's battery sucks balls to begin with, and my battery is getting a bit on the old side, so of course both of the OS's drain more than I'd like, but even with BT and WiFi on all day on the WinMo, and disabled in Android, the life is significantly longer on the WinMo side. Unfortunately, I spend a decent amount of time on the phone while I'm commuting or driving, and I refuse to do it without bluetooth, so I have to run WinMo when I'm in the car.
Yesterday with WiFi and BT turned off, and all tasks killed with the task killer, I lost 50% of my battery in standby over about 3.5 hours, but I really haven't let it sleep in Android longer than that....
Thing is, I can't really make an educated comparison between standby battery consumption on the Android side vs WinMo. With all the apps and "new" stuff (this is my first good Android build on any phone), I'm constantly using the phone when it's in Android mode. It almost never gets to see standby time LOL.... However, while under normal load, the Android build does seem to me to be quite a bit thirstier.... The fact is, it's amazing we're even at the point we're at now, and we should be thankful that the power consumption is ONLY at the level it's at now. It could be much worse. These guys have done a killer job.
Any sort of complaining right now is done out of ignorance for how difficult these kinds of issues are to solve. This isn't an 8th grade Home Ec project (although sewing that pillow in the shape of an inline skate was pretty hard too).
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I wish I was experiencing the same battery life that you are. Are you running the extended battery?
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Whichever battery comes with the Fuze, man . I just overclocked my phone to 633mhz today, so.. let's see how that goes.
I'm not experiencing near the drain with my Energy ROM 23554 with sense 2.5, which I'm running with the Gen.Y dualboot app. Truth is, the Fuze's battery sucks balls to begin with, and my battery is getting a bit on the old side, so of course both of the OS's drain more than I'd like, but even with BT and WiFi on all day on the WinMo, and disabled in Android, the life is significantly longer on the WinMo side. Unfortunately, I spend a decent amount of time on the phone while I'm commuting or driving, and I refuse to do it without bluetooth, so I have to run WinMo when I'm in the car.
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Huh.. I don't use the build with the Sense UI. Though, from my experience, Windows Mobile wiped my battery out in 8 hours of extensive texting, which is how I use my phone these days as well. :S.
Yesterday with WiFi and BT turned off, and all tasks killed with the task killer, I lost 50% of my battery in standby over about 3.5 hours, but I really haven't let it sleep in Android longer than that....
Thing is, I can't really make an educated comparison between standby battery consumption on the Android side vs WinMo. With all the apps and "new" stuff (this is my first good Android build on any phone), I'm constantly using the phone when it's in Android mode. It almost never gets to see standby time LOL.... However, while under normal load, the Android build does seem to me to be quite a bit thirstier.... The fact is, it's amazing we're even at the point we're at now, and we should be thankful that the power consumption is ONLY at the level it's at now. It could be much worse. These guys have done a killer job.
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I suggest lowering the brightness a bit and maybe the screen time out as well?
Any sort of complaining right now is done out of ignorance for how difficult these kinds of issues are to solve. This isn't an 8th grade Home Ec project (although sewing that pillow in the shape of an inline skate was pretty hard too).
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/me remembers cutting his finger while sewing his pillow in 7th grade
Haha, it's all good man. Maybe my battery is in better shape than yours. I would LOVE to have the extended battery, though.
I can never get the sense ui package to work! Either the touchscreen does not work or it stays at the boot screens and keeps going over and over with them!
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Anyone got the s620 on BT Broadband Anywhere?
Any good?
Anychance of the Cabs for BT Talk lol?
Installation files are here: http://btsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-b...05&p_cv=2.1805&p_cats=1804,1805&p_faqid=10901
Discussion about how crap it is here:
http://beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3464&start=60&tstart=0
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Installation files are here: http://btsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-b...05&p_cv=2.1805&p_cats=1804,1805&p_faqid=10901
Discussion about how crap it is here:
http://beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3464&start=60&tstart=0
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Nothing good to say as a BT user, have reset phone so as to get away from there lame programming.
Lol yeh I had read all these already, usually because my HomeHub fails me on a daily basis (Misses his Netgear )
Hi,
I got my BT Total broadband package last week, personally I can’t say a bad word about it, in fact very impressed so far.
Granted the HTC s620 is the first phone of its kind I have ever had so I can’t compare but I love the little device. Good screen, good camera, clear calls, good reception, no problems setting up email, thumbs up all round. The only issue I had was with Active Sync but the details of that are in another thread.
I haven’t hammered the home hub yet but again so far it’s being kicking out a good strong signal since I set it up.
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Hi,
I got my BT Total broadband package last week, personally I can’t say a bad word about it, in fact very impressed so far.
Granted the HTC s620 is the first phone of its kind I have ever had so I can’t compare but I love the little device. Good screen, good camera, clear calls, good reception, no problems setting up email, thumbs up all round. The only issue I had was with Active Sync but the details of that are in another thread.
I haven’t hammered the home hub yet but again so far it’s being kicking out a good strong signal since I set it up.
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How long does your battery last???
Obviously it depends on what your doing but on standby it’s lasting about 5 days, with average use, (paying games, web browsing) I’d say 1-2 days. However this is with the standard battery. It comes with an extended battery in the box which I haven’t used yet, but I guess it will add about 25-40% extra, that said I need to try it really.
The only bad is (which it does warm you about) when using the wireless connection to your hub (or any hot spot) it uses loads of power. I left my phone attached to it and the phone powered off in the middle of the night (waking me up) so it literally discharged the battery in a matter of hours just by being connected via wi-fi.
Gumshoe said:
Obviously it depends on what your doing but on standby it’s lasting about 5 days, with average use, (paying games, web browsing) I’d say 1-2 days. However this is with the standard battery. It comes with an extended battery in the box which I haven’t used yet, but I guess it will add about 25-40% extra, that said I need to try it really.
The only bad is (which it does warm you about) when using the wireless connection to your hub (or any hot spot) it uses loads of power. I left my phone attached to it and the phone powered off in the middle of the night (waking me up) so it literally discharged the battery in a matter of hours just by being connected via wi-fi.
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I think you have been lucky and got a BT s620 that works, i was getting 2 days on average use, now i get 4 days of average use without the BT software and i have more RAM available. The only thing i don't have is BBtalk anymore, small thing to loose to make the phone better "work"
On another note, I’ve being treating my new phone with extra special care since I’ve got it, however, I’ve just had a major (and very unexpected) nose bleed. And guess what? Yup blood all over my new shiny Smartphone. But it’s resisted well and cleaned up OK and thankfully functioning fine, so that is hopefully a good indicator that it will be resilient over time.
Gumshoe said:
On another note, I’ve being treating my new phone with extra special care since I’ve got it, however, I’ve just had a major (and very unexpected) nose bleed. And guess what? Yup blood all over my new shiny Smartphone. But it’s resisted well and cleaned up OK and thankfully functioning fine, so that is hopefully a good indicator that it will be resilient over time.
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You'd have thought a smartphone could have cleaned itself or poped out a little umbrella to protect itself.
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Installation files are here: http://btsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-b...05&p_cv=2.1805&p_cats=1804,1805&p_faqid=10901
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You are better off sticking with version 2.35 as 2.37 is incredibly buggy. I have the installer for 2.35 if anyone needs it.
Battery life varies from 2 - 4 days depending on how often you use WiFi. If you use BBTalk a lot then be prepared to charge daily (not really an issue IMHO)
Ive had mine a few weeks now and I havnt had much problems with it whatso ever... then again I havnt had any problems with any of my BT products (homehub, vision, mobile etc...) it doesnt mean that it doesnt happen though as I have heard other people complian about some of their services.
Battery life doesnt seem bad whatsoever, as long as you dont leave it connected to wifi like I did once as that just drains the battery in a matter of hours.
Just come back off of a holiday where I used it to play games (guitar hero III rocks), watch my Family Guy videos using Coreplayer, take pictures and record videos of the kids and even use it as a phone once in a while and the battery lasted me just fine all I did was stick it on charge when I went to bed.
So I personally rate this phone, Ive even stopped using my old HP PPC which I used to take on long trips.
Ive noticed a lot of people also mentioning how much RAM the bt software uses, but I find that if im using a different homescreen other than the BT specific ones my available RAM is a whole lot better and I still have access to the bt software without having to uninstall the bt software.
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probably a stupid question but..
is there any way to have bt broadband talk installed without having the other bt stuff?
and if so has anyone got the installer?
I get about 4-5 days out of mine before charging but that is on the extended battery the phone was crap to start with but i have unistalled the BT crap and that has made it usable but i would say it is not a very good phone and it is very quirky I much prefer my HTC universal which i will be going back to once my new screen arrives and is fitted.
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Hello fellow subscribers,
Is there anyone out there who can tweak the BT Broadband anywhere software so that it installs fully and works with wm6.1 and wm6.5?
Could those who have the know-how please respond? I am happy to get a PM if that's the best way to respond to my question.
Cheers.
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Hello fellow subscribers,
Is there anyone out there who can tweak the BT Broadband anywhere software so that it installs fully and works with wm6.1 and wm6.5?
Could those who have the know-how please respond? I am happy to get a PM if that's the best way to respond to my question.
Cheers.
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If you check the BT Anywhere Forum people have got the VOIP to work with WM6.1, not that i think worth it as it's a bismal.
The rest of the software is pointless especially the AV and the ROM won't even go into it
What you gain in a WM6.1 ROM far supases the loss of BT Software
I don't know where I am missing it, I have googled for this, gone onto the said forum, could not find any discussion there.
I will ry again just now. If you know precisely the link, could I have it please?
Thanks.
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I don't know where I am missing it, I have googled for this, gone onto the said forum, could not find any discussion there.
I will ry again just now. If you know precisely the link, could I have it please?
Thanks.
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I'll have a look been along time since used the website but just mem it
http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=4876&start=0&tstart=0
Very very thankyou ppls for your hard work... i really appreciate the hard work of the devs.. but can some1 tell me that when the battery metter is fixing.....i only bought this to use android on it but due to unstable battery indcator i m not able to properly get the fun of android on this device.....seriously i have no intrest to use winmo..i liked the keyboard and read that its android compatiable so i bought it .... i know some ppls will say that go buy something else ..... all i need is battery fix and i think many of the ppls here will agree with me....well i for me i m w8ing more 15 days to see if the proper battery fix appears then i will continue it else i will go for Motorola Milestone...i m not saying that these ppls are not working .. all i m saying that all we need is a battery fix with Wifi
w8ing for the ppls opinions
Thanks
honestly man, whats the point of this post? The devs know whats working and what isn't and I'm sure they're working on fixing and improving things. The fact that you can even boot up and run Android on a Windows Mobile phone shows the dedication and work they've put into this so far, its just a matter of work and time until everything is working, have faith and wait it out
dont be surprised if u start gettin some negative responses.
first off, the battery fix wrks great and is very accurate. there must b something u not doing right. i even posted my initial battery readings in the thread with this new build. actually the battery fix is almost dead accurate. i got 8+ hrs. outta of it yesterday. with overclock, with constant use. so nonoverclocked build will probaly bring even longer use.
second, wifi wrks perfectly.
third, why would u buy a device just to run a project build then if u wanted everything wrking? i understand the keyboard thing but unless u got ur device on a good ass deal, kind of silly to buy it just to run something not even fully completed yet. come on now.
Fourth, b4 u bought ur device, did u thoroughly read everything going on with this build or u just jumped in head first?
this is why so many people getting flamed cuz they dont do the research or homework. then come on here posting about why this or that isnt wrking. or what ASSUMPTIONS they have.
dont take this post the wrong way cuz this will probaly be one of the nicer posts towards u. lmfao juss way too many people jumping in and complaining when they wouldve already known the known issues with the build. which in ur case is incorrect. there has to be something u did wrong.
these are questions to ask self why batter fix and wifi not wrking for u.
Am i using the latest builds? Did i thoroughly follow instructions on installing it? Did i install the build with the battery fix in it? Did I break my battery fix by updating the zImage and modules?(which will break the battery fix). if thats not the case, then, Did i update the latest roofts and inirtd files? Did i even troubleshoot the problems b4 posting saying they dont wrk? lol
im not trying to sound like a dckhead..lmfao but im sure the developers would say the same thing basically.
they might have to implement what they doing on the other threads now. if u dont have a certain number of posts, then dont download and try out builds with doing the research first. a moderator stepped in and said that. cuz way too many people complaining about stuff thats already known or complaining about stuff that wrks but they didnt do it correctly.
food for thought, try the latest build. then DO NOT UPDATE THE ZIMAGE AND MODULES AFTERWARDS. only update the roofts and inirtd files.
if u need help getting it running right, let me know. ill be more thn happy to help or assist u, seriously. srry to sound cranky, just woke up n stressed about other things in life..lol
good luck
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... all i need is battery fix and i think many of the ppls here will agree with me....well i for me i m w8ing more 15 days to see if the proper battery fix appears then i will continue it else i will go for Motorola Milestone...i m not saying that these ppls are not working .. all i m saying that all we need is a battery fix with Wifi
w8ing for the ppls opinions
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What the hell is the point of this post? Can we lock this thread, please?
@demandarin
1st i was prepaired for the negative response..
2nd... right now i m testing the new 2.2 froyo beta build as stock no overclocked no thing just extract to mc... and testing while calling / messing with it...very much stable rather then old builds :d.....very much stable /nice reponse / no battery warming(which i was worried of) / no force close atleast now.. / played assassin creed and many thing works preety nice.. wel right now i have'nt use wifi or data roaming /
3rd..well i got 2 options 1 was TP2 and 2nd was Motorola milestone ... well i dont like to milestone keyboard but i forgot that it was way slimmer then tp2 / also compatiable with new builds by defualt...well i was tp2 in local market then came to xda and saw the thread about android and just go for it.. as seeing the progress i thought that it will be fixed soon...now i cant tolarate windows-mo anymore just want to go to the android again asap...so i started this thread...
4th well i readed all the faqs / tips everything before buying tp2...like 50%
well its cool , its nice to get a proper postive feedback from a geek :d wel i will defenately ask for help from u if i came across with anything which i will not able to understand..
Thankyou
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the point of this post is to know about battery fix.. because i think its damaging the battery...because while turing on the android the led indicator turns on and battery start heating-up sorry dont sound to be rude but please if u cant help dont bother to post you will waste your time...
Would you all kindly stop being illiterate? English words are made of letters not numbers.
On topic, jamb, you could have dropped the silly threats (Imma buy another phone) and just asked the question.
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your title isn't so much directed at andoid as it is the people who spend hours and hours and hours developing a working version for our phone. So, yes it can be taken as being insulting, with that people are going to see this post and think "who is this guy?"
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
My battery meter seems to be working just dandy. I did a test yesterday and it was dead on. When in Android I looked at the battery meter and it was about 3/4 full. I opened spare parts and it was at 64%. I then rebooted the phone into WM (6.5, energy ROM) and opened tbattery and it was at 64%
I chared my phone to 100% yester afternoon around 5pm and after heavy use; 5 minutes twitter updates, constant facebook, automaticl gmail check, and non-stop text, I'm still sitting around 50%.
The work they are doing is awesome.
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Any battery meter needs to have several complete charge/recharge cycles to be completely accurate (charge phone to 100%, drain until it powers off by itself, repeat at least 3 times). So I would think Android on the TP2 is no different.
Anyway, if the OP got the message that the TP2 is "Andriod compatible", that that was the wrong impression, or at least an overstatement. This is an ongoing project. Given, one where some great folks are putting in tons of work and doing a wonderful job (and much appreciated). But its not perfect, and not the same as a phone which natively runs Android. If that was the OPs intent, then big mistake and he should have done more research before buying.
And its always been posted that the battery meter has issues. I don't know how he could puurchase a TP2 for android and didn't even read the 1st post of the thread.
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Anyone tried buying those larger batteries off ebay? I saw one that's lager but isn't larger in size where you'd need a new back case.
How much difference is 1800mAh compared to 1500mAh anyway? Another hour of life?
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Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
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1st well i completely readed the faqs that which things was working and which r not ..when i was going to buy new fone i was damn excited that the great devs make it happen to run android on TP2 and because i liked the keyboard and android compatible i thought that battery fix will come soon ... i got no interest to use winmo ..now i m fedup with winmo and just want to switch to android completely thats y i just asked for the battery fix.i m not forcing them to make it for me..just asking
2nd well i got 2 options motorola milestone(totally android ) or htc tp2 .. i was not into motorola devices so readed about tp2 is compatible ..well in my country only 5 or 6% ppls use other brand otherwise the remaining ppls use nokia or samsung so i wasnt able to use tp2 before the only option i got was to use it personally .....
i know that many many works need to be done...
well i readed about the fix but it is working without wifi and as i said earlier , i know its sound mean but all i need is battery fix with wifi...well as for battery warming without internet , no gps , no overclocking , no nothing just used with its original files it was just lying on my table and when i put it into my pocket i can feel that the battery is warming up so i have to restart the fone to switch back to winmo...
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
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well thankyou for ur help ... i really liked your suggestion so within 2 or 3 days i will switch to motorola asap....
Thankyou
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My battery meter seems to be working just dandy. I did a test yesterday and it was dead on. When in Android I looked at the battery meter and it was about 3/4 full. I opened spare parts and it was at 64%. I then rebooted the phone into WM (6.5, energy ROM) and opened tbattery and it was at 64%
I chared my phone to 100% yester afternoon around 5pm and after heavy use; 5 minutes twitter updates, constant facebook, automaticl gmail check, and non-stop text, I'm still sitting around 50%.
The work they are doing is awesome.
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i know they done an awesome job ... i simply love this forum...
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Any battery meter needs to have several complete charge/recharge cycles to be completely accurate (charge phone to 100%, drain until it powers off by itself, repeat at least 3 times). So I would think Android on the TP2 is no different.
Anyway, if the OP got the message that the TP2 is "Andriod compatible", that that was the wrong impression, or at least an overstatement. This is an ongoing project. Given, one where some great folks are putting in tons of work and doing a wonderful job (and much appreciated). But its not perfect, and not the same as a phone which natively runs Android. If that was the OPs intent, then big mistake and he should have done more research before buying.
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mate i already did these things like i charged the fone 100% in winmo then switched the android after using for a while like calling for 2 or 3 minutes and some txt msgs and fone pop-up opens of charging the device.. i know its not perfect .. i didnt asked for every fix and i do alot research before buying the device. i spend 2weeks searching about tp2 and android.... and for now all i can say is
I LOVE THIS FORUM AND THEIR HELPING PPLS
I LOVE THE DEVS HERE FOR THEIR AWESOME WORK
AND I M SWITCHING TO MOTOROLA MILESTONE(COMPLETELY ANDROID )because i was tired to use winmo...
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And its always been posted that the battery meter has issues. I don't know how he could puurchase a TP2 for android and didn't even read the 1st post of the thread.
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i know i know i know ...... i readed the faqs / complete post about .... i purchased the device just for its keyboard after blackberry 9700 i liked this device keyboard and android compatible i thought i going to be fun to use this device...Happy now???
Mods i got my answers and want to close this Thread
Thankyou
Might want to give this a read:
HTC Vision with Android, full QWERTY in the wild
Aaron McCarthy said:
Might want to give this a read:
HTC Vision with Android, full QWERTY in the wild
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thanks mate but its in rumors i think it will release Q4 2010 or Q2 2011... and i dont have that much time ... just fedup with this winmo....android is far far better then winmo
Wondering what's going on with peoples Evo lately... Mine stopped working for 3 hours then came back on.... I went to sleep this morning and left it on the USB charger...Woke up and noticed that my supersonic was off and went through the normal routine of trying to get it back on..(battery pull, tried booting into recovery, pulled SD card, tried different charger) all to no avail.... Get to the store and the tech tells me my battery is deformed (even told me to feel the buldge, which I did not feel). Their solution was for me to by a new battery...they wouldn't replace and im covered with the TEP....just as I was about to purchase the extended battery cause they didnt have the stock battery, I push the power button and my phone boots... Walked out the store baffled but the phone has been working ever since...
I been reading similar stories and my simple question is what the hell is going on...
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K-Driod said:
Wondering what's going on with peoples Evo lately... Mine stopped working for 3 hours then came back on.... I went to sleep this morning and left it on the USB charger...Woke up and noticed that my supersonic was off and went through the normal routine of trying to get it back on..(battery pull, tried booting into recovery, pulled SD card, tried different charger) all to no avail.... Get to the store and the tech tells me my battery is deformed (even told me to feel the buldge, which I did not feel). Their solution was for me to by a new battery...they wouldn't replace and im covered with the TEP....just as I was about to purchase the extended battery cause they didnt have the stock battery, I push the power button and my phone boots... Walked out the store baffled but the phone has been working ever since...
I been reading similar stories and my simple question is what the hell is going on...
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Probably something with the kernel, that seems to be the common denominator so far.
Almost all of us hack our phones in some way: rooting, flashing roms, flashing kernels, adding programs (like hulu, wireless tether), etc etc. Since our battery life sucks anyway, many of us charge our phones multiple times per day. Li-Ion batteries aren't exactly known for their stability. If you Google it, you'll find that they've been acting funny and blowing up for nearly a decade (the oldest news story I could find dated back to 2002).
Since we run our phones really hard, sometimes the battery bugs out for a little while, or dies completely. It was recently blamed on SBC kernels, but we're talking a very small percentage of users experiencing problems. However, it's the nature of the beast that sometimes the phone just has a mild heart attack and comas out for a bit. I would still replace the battery or at least take it easy on flashing things for a little while.
As our phone grows older, we have more and more options on what to do with it...and that's just super but over-flash too much and one line of code doesn't make it and boom, your phone doesn't turn on for 3 hours. Software is a fickle *****, so have fun but be cautious. Always check your logcats and battery monitors.
Thanks for this very logical explanation... Ordered new battery just in case....and will take heed to your recommendations..
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Almost all of us hack our phones in some way: rooting, flashing roms, flashing kernels, adding programs (like hulu, wireless tether), etc etc. Since our battery life sucks anyway, many of us charge our phones multiple times per day. Li-Ion batteries aren't exactly known for their stability. If you Google it, you'll find that they've been acting funny and blowing up for nearly a decade (the oldest news story I could find dated back to 2002).
Since we run our phones really hard, sometimes the battery bugs out for a little while, or dies completely. It was recently blamed on SBC kernels, but we're talking a very small percentage of users experiencing problems. However, it's the nature of the beast that sometimes the phone just has a mild heart attack and comas out for a bit. I would still replace the battery or at least take it easy on flashing things for a little while.
As our phone grows older, we have more and more options on what to do with it...and that's just super but over-flash too much and one line of code doesn't make it and boom, your phone doesn't turn on for 3 hours. Software is a fickle *****, so have fun but be cautious. Always check your logcats and battery monitors.
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Just saw you said your battery was deformed... yeah, that's why you don't use kernels with sbc. It's pretty stupid to honestly.
Check out a video on youtube of what they can do when overcharged.
And definitely get rid of that battery. That's not something you want to be using.
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Just saw you said your battery was deformed... yeah, that's why you don't use kernels with sbc. It's pretty stupid to honestly.
Check out a video on youtube of what they can do when overcharged.
And definitely get rid of that battery. That's not something you want to be using.
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lol do you search the website every hour for "SBC" and have to diss it every post lol, it's actually hilarious, i find it funny...
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lol do you search the website every hour for "SBC" and have to diss it every post lol, it's actually hilarious, i find it funny...
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He asked what was going on so I told him, I'm glad you are easily amused.
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He asked what was going on so I told him, I'm glad you are easily amused.
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maybe you should enlighten him that batteries aren't perfect nor are they any where near invincible, they come and go, just like cars, just like power supplies, just like anything. Relax with the NAZI, "SBC OMGGGGGGGG" that's all, it's every thread and it's all opinionated. And no, I'm not going to argue with 4.2 charge full dangerous 4.3 read this site, then dip your oreo while doing a kickflip, no, just relax with the opinions that's all...
Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Maybe because it's Saturday. I'm surprised they haven't jumped on you for posting this in this section. None of the roms that are gingerbread will have the life you had on 2.2 unless the code gets released and the guys that make kernels can make new ones. Battery life on the roms vary but if it means alot you should try Calkulin's rom. He has an undervolting script built in that may work for you. If you flash a kernel from the 2.2 roms you might get better battery life but something will break in the rom, ie camera.
Awesome development work dude!!!!!! Cant wait to try it out. Where's the download link??
My first idea would be posting in the correct section, or, it sucks that Skype and battery life blow on this rom you developed.
Since that is over, are you wiping properly with a formatall.zip? Are you making sure to flash the correct kernels with the corresponding rom? Are you restoring any data with titanium backup?
Move this to the q&a and you will get the information you are looking for.
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I thought you had to have 10 posts before you could post in the dev section?
simple answer - skype though awesome also sucks.
for example just think about a laptop. my 7 hr macbook pro dies in under 2 hrs when i'm video or phone chatting on skype... shouldn't the same be expected for a cell? you're getting 3 hours, albeit only chatting as you say, but skype has been and remains a highly demanding application which although is convenient and widely used IMO is poorly written considering it's cpu and battery drainage. compared to simple web based google chat w/ video I get far superior battery life. like i said, my opinion, my experience. and yes as mentioned, try undervolting or SBC kernels or both. My EVO has ranged from stock settings 5 hr life to deck's w/ tiamat sbc + vipermod approx 40 hours (the 40 was when it was honestly just idle most of the time, occasional call or text a little bit of browsing, i was sick so on laptop mostly- although typical moderate daily use I would still be above 20% before plug in before sleep)
as long as you mentioned it, anyone happen to know a stable skype apk with video that was pulled? i've tried different sources and a bunch of my usual roms and I either get only back camera for a little then crashing or front camera green fuzziness and crash instantly.
Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
OP created his/her account before the 10 post restriction went into effect. The change was not retroactive.
tango is cool....i also use ClearSea...it's got the pc support so you can video chat between cell and pc...works pretty nice over 3g...
just an idea....
Decks 1.2.1 stable ROM in "advanced settings" in settings go to performance, go to VM heap set to 48
Savaged Zen 2.2.1 cfs SBC kernel
Battery calibration (market app) follow in app instructions
Setcpu (market app) my settings are 1152 Max 245 min savagedzen governor
Download rom manager and run fix permissions
Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
I get great battery life. I get upwards of 20 hours easy and I use my phone heavily so, hopefully this will help
Next time please post your questions in the q and a section, dev is for someone who has something they have developed for the community to use. Thanks
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You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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GeneralSky2004 said:
You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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+1. It's easy to screw up when you've been up all night downloading and flashing the newest versions of your favorite ROMs or desperately seeking the answers you need. No need to grab your torches once the first 14 people have cried "wrong section" (most of whom then offer advice afterward, enabling much?)
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Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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I have a better question:
Why is it that someone felt it necessary to bump a post that clearly was ignored by everyone and put on the second or third page just to flame someone?
This thread went unnoticed with no replies for over an hour and yet someone felt that necessary.
That **** is just as bad as posting in the wrong section, if not worse.
i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
Check out my sig, AOSP setup would probably help you with battery life. Current radios too
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Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
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First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
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Thanks for the tip. I wasn't directing the 10 post mark at you btw, more at moderators/XDA in general. My first account was locked for "spamming" I presume to get 10 posts whereas I actually spent hours answering ppl's questions in the q & a but I guess the short time frame wasn't liked. But I digress, I'm not so in need for cell to cell as much as a nice universal cell to cell/desktop cross platform and unfortunately skype is the most popular. My girlfriend as well as many friends/relatives also don't have the latest phones so the cell to desktop is wanted. for now I'm just sticking to gtalk, with isn't without it's errors either.
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
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... Kernel to set meaning it takes a bit for it to settle down to the way it will normally function, call it "breaking it in" or like how you gotta drive a car a few thousand miles before your performance and MPG are where the manufacturer claims itll be... Yeah I kinda like the second analogy, go me!
Frequent flashing or flashing too soon sort of doesn't give the rom or kernel a chance because they haven't stabilized, often why some people praise while at the same time others curse a rom/kernel. Myself included :/ yikes. I found that to be true when deck was held up on his updates for almost a week and my phone was amazing, but I updated and went back into the loop of constant flashing so keep that in mind, if you're set on giving s rom and kernel a shot, give it at least a few days of the kind of use you NORMALLY would. If you're playing with it all day and it dies don't call it shotty battery life until you keep it in your pocket most of the day during the week. Not trying to berate anyone, I've done these same things myself, patience is a virtue after all.
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i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
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lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
mellie815 said:
lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
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Well then the issue lies with the network not your Rom
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Hi all,
I've an iphone 4s and a one x and I've been trying to decide which to keep. Everything was looking rosy for the HOX until the latest of the 1.29 updates was received.
My battery life was pretty exceptional before, I was getting to the end of the day with often 50% or more battery. Since the update the phone will run fine for a while, maybe half a day and then suddenly android OS will start munching the battery. It accounts for 50% of battery use and you could feel it was really hot. All apps are closed and the majority of syncing has been disabled. Anyone know why the latest sw would trigger this problem?
Other problem I have is being discussed on another thread, dropping signal and then not picking back up unless i refresh the network.
It's a real shame as I'd really warmed to the phone, why haven't they tested everything properly before release as they've ruined a quality product. I've been back in the 4s for the last week and unless anyone has any ideas, an as new one x is up for sale.
I can confirm great standby time though, with just wifi connected, receiving emails and the odd look at the lovely screen it is on 4 days and 48 mins on a single charge with 34% battery remaining
could be a rough app.
I've uninstalled most the apps and really can't be bothered to reset the phone and set it up again.
I'll stick with the iPhone, HTC is going on ebay this evening. So close but no cigar
winrya said:
I've uninstalled most the apps and really can't be bothered to reset the phone and set it up again.
I'll stick with the iPhone, HTC is going on ebay this evening. So close but no cigar
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not to sound bad, but really stick to iOS and don't try again
i can always conclude its an impossibility for iUsers to make the switch
unless you are willing to get your hands dirty, Android will never replace your iOS
battery drain is clearly related to some app or widget going rogue, you can try to track it in manage apps and checking running apps and check your accounts settings if something is refreshing often
This is not a problem with HOX its a problem with your usage of HOX
until the next iPhone is released the One X rules it all
I don't mind a certain amount of tweaking to get something working and to be honest the one x was only a stop gap to keep me interested before the iPhone 5 is released so I would of ended back at IOS.
Its a shame as I love the feel of the one x and the size of the screen (although slightly too big to use safely one handed) is a masterpiece. I honestly would have kept it until October if it could find a signal properly and didn't have OS bugs. I believe the drain to be related to the latest update as it had been perfect on 1.28 and the first 1.29 and have changed nothing on it since the update and the drain started straight away. I mostly only use the popular apps and have uninstalled the majority and it hasn't solved the issue.
It's almost like the old windows thing of once it gets slow and buggy, the only fix it to restore back to factory settings.
Too bad i don't like iphone ( had 2) otherwise i would change it too.
Had Htc hero,Lg optimus 2x,Samsung galaxy s2 and now HOX.
Sold SGS2 thinking that HOX would be better but is not, at least for now.
Having problems with network too and it is annoying (call quality is ****)
Waiting for update from vodafone too see if gets better.
I came from an iphone, and its quite a shock coming to Android from it! Luckily i have the Transformer android tablet which prepeared me for it.
One thing i have noticed and what you dont want to do is that factory resets fix so many issues on Android. i always do one now after updates or wheneve its slow, yes its a pain in the backside (even cold booting fixes issues too before jumping in with the big reset)
If you're willing to spend a little extra time to work out the few little problems, the HOX will be a much better investment than the iPhone. I'd suggest you install some battery stats monitoring app to work out exactly what it is that's draining your phone.
Well I've done a reset on it. Luckily the music and vids etc have been kept which saves a little hassle. Just annoying getting it set back up the way I had it before.
I'm gonna give it one more go tomorrow and see how I get on. I've kind of lost the love I had for it now and see it as a bit of a pain but we'll see how I get on.
Why oh why is the speaker so quiet and on the back, can't be hard to match the 4s in this respect can it??
Any idea when this signal problem is going to be fixed?
Cheers,
Ryan