Bad news? (if true)... - Desire General

Hi
I ordered mine from Clove few days back, but yesterday luckily I got Desire on PAYG from Carphone Warehouse... So today I called Clove 2 cancel my contract, I just asked Sale Person that when r u guys getting ur stock now as CPW have unlocked stock? He said HTC will (directly) send them a bigger stock from mid-next-week...
And also he went on 2 say that Clove have been told from HTC that the unlocked stock from CPW have some software problem AND ANY ONE WHO GOT DESIRE FROM THEM MAY HAVE 2 RETURN IT BACK 2 THEM 2 B REPLACED WITH THE NEW DESIRE (which HTC will send them mid-next-week)...
I am worried 2 hear that because mine is PAYG on Orange from CPW & the CPW person said that Orange don't have phones return policy... So if this is true,,, are we (unlocked desire owners) in trouble???
K7

K 7 said:
Hi
I ordered mine from Clove few days back, but yesterday luckily I got Desire on PAYG from Carphone Warehouse... So today I called Clove 2 cancel my contract, I just asked Sale Person that when r u guys getting ur stock now as CPW have unlocked stock? He said HTC will (directly) send them a bigger stock from mid-next-week...
And also he went on 2 say that Clove have been told from HTC that the unlocked stock from CPW have some software problem AND ANY ONE WHO GOT DESIRE FROM THEM MAY HAVE 2 RETURN IT BACK 2 THEM 2 B REPLACED WITH THE NEW DESIRE (which HTC will send them mid-next-week)...
I am worried 2 hear that because mine is PAYG on Orange from CPW & the CPW person said that Orange don't have phones return policy... So if this is true,,, are we (unlocked desire owners) in trouble???
K7
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worst case scenario they will flash the newer ROM to your desire, IMO (that is if there is anything wrong with it)

Mine works fine
Could be a bit of doublespeak from Clove, as they and other online sellers appear to be losing money hand over fist as people cancel their pre-orders and go to....yep, you guessed it, CPW! I'll worry when a bug is identified and appeares on my phone...

If there is a software fault then it would be fixed by an OTA update. Recall my arse.

nubbin said:
Mine works fine
Could be a bit of doublespeak from Clove, as they and other online sellers appear to be losing money hand over fist as people cancel their pre-orders and go to....yep, you guessed it, CPW! I'll worry when a bug is identified and appeares on my phone...
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Yea... quite agree-able point here. If HTC told them that CPW stock had some software issues they would definitely have told CPW 2 stop selling their current stock and wait 4 new stock from them 2 arrive (as selling problematic phones will harm HTC's name)....my point of view...

K 7 said:
Yea... quite agree-able point here. If HTC told them that CPW stock had some software issues they would definitely have told CPW 2 stop selling their current stock and wait 4 new stock from them 2 arrive (as selling problematic phones will harm HTC's name)....my point of view...
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How much are cpw selling them pay as you go for!?

Even if there was a fault, CPW as the seller would be obliged to rectify for you by either updating te ROM, or replacing.
we are protected, in the UK, by The Sale of Goods act 1979
Your Rights
If you have bought goods you have a right to expect that they should be as described, fit for purpose and of satisfactory quality:
* ‘As described’ means that it should correspond to any description given about the goods such as the quantity, colour, measurements etc. These descriptions may be verbal statements about the goods, statements in the brochure, on a shelf edge or even on the box.
* Goods are of ‘Satisfactory quality’ if they reach the standard a reasonable person would expect taking into account the price and any description.
- The law says that goods that are of satisfactory quality are free from minor defects, have good appearance and finish and are durable, safe and fit for all the purposes for which such goods are commonly supplied.
* In addition to being fit for their every day purpose goods should be fit for any specific purpose you agreed with the seller at the time of sale [for example, if you specifically asked for a printer that was compatible with your computer]
If your goods are not satisfactory you may be able to make a claim for up to 6 years in England and Wales and 5 years in Scotland after the purchase of your goods, for a refund, repair or replacement.
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Mine arrived from CPW on Monday and I have only experienced issues with mobile network access.
Neither my old Vodafone nor my new T-Mobile SIMs can connect to 3G/HSDPA using any of the APN configurations pre-configured on the phone.
I have successfully got the Vodafone one working using settings from the internet, but am still to find working one for T-Mobile.
Another thing I noticed that was wrong was that when I selected T-Mobile in the setup wizard, a Virgin Mobile scene was added with the web browser home-page set to Virgin.
I am hoping that the replacement firmware will fix this but I will hang on to the phone and flash it myself when it becomes available.
Edd.

HA!
If there was really a problem it is likely HTC would have made it known to everyone, most likely it is a software issue, I don't think I've heard of HTC having bad hardware batches like Nokia so we should all be fine.

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How much are cpw selling them pay as you go for!?
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£399.99 + £10 topup = £410/-

Bull sh*t clame from Clove to put peoples off from CPW thats all.

Are the handsets from CPW network locked?

No! They use the same phones on any contract or PAYG or simfree sale.

When i first boo the phone it shows the update icon so i think it did an OTA update so if there was any problems it should be fixed

ok thanks, just a couple more questions;
Any network branding in the OS?
Is the software the pre-release software like on the t-mobile handsets?
Same 2 year warranty from HTC like when purchasing from Handtec?

AFAIK there has not been an OTA update released yet.

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AFAIK there has not been an OTA update released yet.
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I was wondering about that, handful number of members mentioned that, i did not know that Android handles this kind of thing (OTA Updates), does it?

s4vva said:
ok thanks, just a couple more questions;
Any network branding in the OS?
Is the software the pre-release software like on the t-mobile handsets?
Same 2 year warranty from HTC like when purchasing from Handtec?
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No network branding at all
Not pre release software afaik
All HTC handsets have a 2 year warranty

LittleMiss27 said:
No network branding at all
Not pre release software afaik
All HTC handsets have a 2 year warranty
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Thank you, cancelling my handtec order and on my way to cpw! (not in that order).
edit: just noticed it's the brown one, think I would rather wait for my graphite one from handtec.

s4vva said:
edit: just noticed it's the brown one, think I would rather wait for my graphite one from handtec.
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Check this out to confirm, but I'm pretty sure that graphite == brown in this case.

Related

Where to buy Rhodium without contract in UK

Where can i buy Rhodium without Contract in UK. I buy HTC touch HD without contract at Carphone before but just wonder if i can buy Rhodium there too ^^. My house is quite far from it so i dont have time to go there to ask -_-
Not sure where the best buy is at the moment
Check places like Devicewire, Expansys, Clove, and Handtec I suspect they will be cheaper than Carphone Warehouse. There was a thread here about prices, but not sure if it's still active.
Good Luck!
Gordon
Hit google with the UK only radio button. There's 1000+1 places to buy from. I got mine from launch at Amazon.co.uk
The good things from carphone is u can go there to check if there is something like dead pixel on the fone before make decisions.
Last time when i bought my HD there it took me only 450 GBP for the fone while i checked at clove it was around 500 GBP -_-.
#3: I know how to search man -_-
Try eBay.
oh man ebay is not different from the other online site. If u buy it and u get smt like dead pixel on the screen u have to send it back -_-
I got mine from http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/ £434 on voda pay2go. For some reason it was cheaper than simfree. Phone is not branded or locked as using with my 3 sim.
That's a pretty good deal from mpd ... only problem I'd have with buying from them is that I've heard nightmare stories about people having probs with the phone, and mpd won't have anything to do with them...
For Sale Touch Pro 2 - Vodafone Branded
I currently got a touch pro 2 on vodafone as an upgrade but the wife had already bought me one offline.
So it is up for grabs for £375 plus £5.00 to cover royal mail registered post.
cash to be paid ia bank transfer or paypal. If paypal used then buyer to pay paypal charges.
How about handtech which advertise on xda forum. I found it quite cheap only 438 with simfree
the problem with a lot of uk sites these days is their quality control. i always buy sim free and hate it when the "new" phone arrives in an opened box, factory screen protector half off etc.. they do a **** job of putting it all back in the box after "checking contents".
i used to buy from Play but their prices aren't competitve any more and no confirmed despatch date.
try King of Gadgets. all their stuff is factory sealed and there's a really good bloke over the phone who wont muck you about.
good luck.
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the problem with a lot of uk sites these days is their quality control. i always buy sim free and hate it when the "new" phone arrives in an opened box, factory screen protector half off etc.. they do a **** job of putting it all back in the box after "checking contents".
i used to buy from Play but their prices aren't competitve any more and no confirmed despatch date.
try King of Gadgets. all their stuff is factory sealed and there's a really good bloke over the phone who wont muck you about.
good luck.
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Thank u very much ^^ . And about handtec ? Do u have any info about them ?
no experience sorry. but I'm always weary of low prices. I think with them you still have to pay a fair amount for next day delivery. over the last few years I've learnt the hard way there's no such thing as a bargain
i've just chatted with them online and they told me that i don't have to pay any fee for nextday delivery but the problem for the dead pixel is. HTC only accepts to replace fone with more than 3 deadpixels -_- .
Handtec sell brand new and sealed phones but they are gray imports meaning no automatic network settings and detection and probably some warranty issues. This was the experience I had when I bought a Kaiser from them and when I returned it and asked for a UK spec, they simply sent the same phone back to me in a UK spec box (lol). I returned it and did a charge back when they started trying to act funny. Devicewire sell UK spec phones at the most competitive prices in my opinion.
Seriously boss. You can buy from anyone of these sellers and if you're not happy, dead pixel or otherwise then you can send it back with no obligation citing distance selling act. The common vendors like expansys, amazon etc are all good for it. Pick someone whom you trust and pull the trigger!
thank you very much. Maybe i will try with clove.co.uk kkkk

Going to Preorder a Desire?

Hi Everyone,
I was thinking that given the size of our community, I might be able to negotiate group discounts on new devices (especially pre-orders of upcoming devices). My goal would be to get the cheapest price possible from a reputable online retailer. I know lots of sites all over the web use stores or affiliate links to make a few extra bucks; this would be more about getting the best deal for you... if xda were getting anything out of it, I would make sure that was 100% clear.
Does this interest you guys at all? I have no idea how large of a discount I could get (maybe only 5- 10%), but I wanted to gauge the interest before I tried.
How many of you actually plan on pre-ordering one of the new HTC devices? Which one?
Thx!
Well, it depends on if AT&T decides to carry this phone or not. There's no point in ordering it if AT&T will eventually subsidy it for a lower cost. I have two lines that are (both) out of contract-- and I'm looking to make a major upgrade for me & the wife.
So, if AT&T doesn't hook me up, sign me up for two. But, seriously, send me a message if you make any progress.
I want this phone extremely bad. I can't make any commitment until I know it will be offered on Tmobile in the US with our goofy bands and whatnot.
I would be interested if the device would be released on ANY North American 3g bands.
I just can't live without data on my phone for much longerr
here in germany u can preorder it on amazon for 499€...a few days ago it was there for 419....but i saw it too late
I just pre ordered mine from clove..
Coatezy said:
I just pre ordered mine from clove..
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Ditto! ...ordered mine a week ago. I haven't told the wife yet as I haven't found the right time to break it to her as we're supposed to be clearing our credit cards and paying her parents back this year!
I actually go out of may way to be different and yesterday stumbled across the silver version on PDAshop.nl/.be and Smartphoneshop.nl/.be and took a fancy to it - they're the only places in Europe offering it too. I asked for a quote to ship to the UK and was all set to cancel my order with Clove but they refuse to ship outside the Netherlands or Belgium. Then I realized they are both the same company and their sites are mirrors of each other which instantly raises my suspicions ...why would the same company trade as two different competing entities if they didn't have something to hide I think.
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Then I realized they are both the same company and their sites are mirrors of each other which instantly raises my suspicions ...why would the same company trade as two different competing entities if they didn't have something to hide I think.
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Because then one site can claim to be cheaper than the other. Very clever.
Coatezy said:
I just pre ordered mine from clove..
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Do they charge you immediately for pre-orders?
djet said:
Do they charge you immediately for pre-orders?
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No they take payment when the stock is available.. This happened when I purchased my hd2 and I also emailed Clove to confirm this would be the case with the Desire.
Amazon.co.uk just dropped the price on Desire... 429 £ =)
Just to let people know...
Lysin said:
Amazon.co.uk just dropped the price on Desire... 429 £ =)
Just to let people know...
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Much cheaper from Amazon.de.
sindrefyrn said:
Much cheaper from Amazon.de.
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How 494€ is cheaper than 424 £???
I've just sold my HD2 and I've just bought a Desire!
I'm crazy.
Lysin said:
How 494€ is cheaper than 424 £???
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Ops. Sorry. My bad.
ghale said:
I've just sold my HD2 and I've just bought a Desire!
I'm crazy.
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Done the same..
gizz68erz said:
here in germany u can preorder it on amazon for 499€...a few days ago it was there for 419....but i saw it too late
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I was lucky and fast enough to preorder it for 419, but still dont know if I should keep my X1 and send the Desire back or replace my X1 with it - as I surely will be an early adopter of the first WP7S HTC phone
Am thinking of ordering one of these phones. Currently own a 3GS on O2.
Can pre order with mobiles.co.uk . Looking at T-Mobs Web 600 tariff at £30 per month.
Can I ask what, if any, limits T-Mob have with regards to data usage.I currently use Slingplayer on my 3GS, along with radio streaming, use Youtube a fair bit.Would I have any problems doing this with T-Mob(I understand they took the YT app off of their HD2s?), assuming of course that Slingplayer gets released for Android?
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Am thinking of ordering one of these phones. Currently own a 3GS on O2.
Can pre order with mobiles.co.uk . Looking at T-Mobs Web 600 tariff at £30 per month.
Can I ask what, if any, limits T-Mob have with regards to data usage.I currently use Slingplayer on my 3GS, along with radio streaming, use Youtube a fair bit.Would I have any problems doing this with T-Mob(I understand they took the YT app off of their HD2s?), assuming of course that Slingplayer gets released for Android?
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When I swapped my 3GS for HD2 I bought the HD2 so I could put my o2 sim straight in it.. Didn't want to loose the o2 data allowance from the iphone contract. And will be doing the same with the Desire.
Yeah, suppose I could do the same.Just get a cheaper tariff .Or else wait and buy a locked one?from O2?
Am currently on the £20 Simplicity for iPhone tariff.I thought they knew if the SIM was being used in a phone other than an iPhone?

Desire availabilty in Hong Kong?

Is the HTC Desire available in HK. I will be there from 12-14th of April and Im really hoping to get it then. The legend is already available but no news about the Desire.
Not sure but try either the top floor (entry level) of Wan Chai Computer centre or the places around Sham Shui Po. If you have never bought electronics from HK, you need to be aware that there are two prices - one for HK stock (usually pricer) and the other for grey imports from China and Japan. Warranty coverage for the latter is done by the shop, so if you have a problem you will have to send it back to that shop. That being said, HTC probably wont provide warranty coverage outside of the country of purchase (according to one of the other threads).
Thanks for the advice. My iPhone was bought in Shenzhen so no worries about warranty. I have been coming to HK since last 7 years on business. Buying most of my gadgets there. I was only concerned regarding availability of the phone in HK as cant see it mentioned anywhere in any of the forums or Google.
I've checked out WanChai just last night actually and there's no sign of the Desire.
Good news is, because of the current favorable exchange rate with the GBP, you can just do what I do. Order overseas from Clove! I'm expecting mine to arrive in HK on Monday. And even with shipping, it's cheaper than it would be when it goes on sale in HK.
A friend was 4 days ago in HKG and he found it somewhere in Kowloon.
Sorry, i've no more details and no price tag...
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Is the HTC Desire available in HK. I will be there from 12-14th of April and Im really hoping to get it then. The legend is already available but no news about the Desire.
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I will try to the same as I will be in Hong Kong a couple of days after you.
I have bought HTC devices several times in Hong Kong and never had any problems.
The computer stores in Wan Chai and Mongkok are your best bet. Look around though do a bit of bargaining.
keep us inforned.
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I've checked out WanChai just last night actually and there's no sign of the Desire.
Good news is, because of the current favorable exchange rate with the GBP, you can just do what I do. Order overseas from Clove! I'm expecting mine to arrive in HK on Monday. And even with shipping, it's cheaper than it would be when it goes on sale in HK.
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I cant order it to HK as I will be there only for 3 days and also cant order to India as then too expensive after paying import taxes. N1 is around 4500HKD in Mong Kok if Desire is same price or lower it will be ideal. I will look around Mong Kok and Sham Shui PO. Also Kowloon ( Thanks to Atomicman). If found and bought I will inform on this forum immediately.
I've been looking around for the Desire in HK too, so far nothing. Most of the shops either say they don't know the release date, or "maybe next week", which is the typical answer when they have no idea.
The latest from the HK forums (using google translate) is that HTC HK has said they're not sure of an exact date, maybe in June. The consensus is that they want to give the Legend (out March 31st) some time to sell before releasing the Desire. I'm sure grey imports from the UK will start to show up soon, but at a premium.
Not sure if it'll be cheaper than the Nexus One, since you can get an N1 directly from Google for less than $4500, so their price in Mongkok just includes a small mark-up. The Legend is $4180, down to $3980 in some places, so I reckon the Desire will be at least $6-800 more than that to set it apart.
Based on all that info, I also ordered from Clove today.
@ohyeahar: when did you order yours? Do you have a DHL tracking number for it already?
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@ohyeahar: when did you order yours? Do you have a DHL tracking number for it already?
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Ordered on March 8. Already shipping. Expecting it on Monday.
So slim to zero chance of getting a desire in HK before 14th April? So what do you suggest I do buy the Legend or N1? Please advise as Im quite eager to buy an android phone now. I will be able to change it only after 6 months so have to live with whichever phone I buy till then.
ohyeahar if you feel like selling your Desire let me know ;-)
@sickboy888
I got your PM and was trying to reply, but you've disabled receiving of PM's. You might want to look into that.
Finally bought the Nexus One as couldn't find the desire and cant with for an android phone any longer. I'm in HK till 15th Morning so if any one knows of a definite place where desire is available here do let me know. I don't mind buying that as well. Can always sell my N1 on Ebay in India.
I bought my HTC Desire (UK) version at a shop in Tsuen Wan. It mainly deals online shopping for customers from mainland china but they also sell phones there. I just got mine there yesterday. See if they have any stocks left and you can get one there. The contact information below:
Rm2412, 24/F, Wing Hing Ind Building
83-93 Chai Wan Kok Street, Tsuen Wan
Tel:3583 2773
Rmb to mentioned I introduce you there hehe, as I will get extra discount when I buy ipad there next time.
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I bought my HTC Desire (UK) version at a shop in Tsuen Wan...
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Congrats! How much did you get it for?
$4380
Well to TBH you can buy it at Clove at a cheaper price...but what happens if your phone breaks down ? You won't be buying a round trip ticket to UK to just fix your phone... (Rmb the warranty for HTC UK is 2 years !!)
They include a one time FREE deliver service to UK center to repair the machine...and afterwards they charge you $200 only.
Just like ordinary HKers time is important...hehe
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$4380
Well to TBH you can buy it at Clove at a cheaper price...but what happens if your phone breaks down ? You won't be buying a round trip ticket to UK to just fix your phone... (Rmb the warranty for HTC UK is 2 years !!)
They include a one time FREE deliver service to UK center to repair the machine...and afterwards they charge you $200 only.
Just like ordinary HKers time is important...hehe
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That's a good price actually. If you consider the price difference between the Legend and Desire in UK and that the Legend's retail price in HK is 4199, I'd expect the Desire to cost about 4389.
That is a good price considering the phone isn't available in the usual shops in HK.
Regarding the warranty, according to the spec on Clove the phone comes with a 2 year International warranty, so if anything goes wrong you should be able to get HTC HK to take care of it, right?

shortage of desire?

hi folks,
the network i'm on in ireland are telling me they cant get any new desire for at least two weeks.. that there's a europe wide shortage? any stock issues elsewhere?
Cheers,
Mick
Yeah, I had to wait 3 weeks for mine from Vodafone, although admittedly the volcano didn't help.
It seems like other people are having problems with Vodafone, looks as though HTC underestimated the Desire's popularity.
Got it in Holland, didn't have to wait they had a couple of desires left. The guy told me they sell very well, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ran out of desires before ordering new ones.
The same situation applies in Greece too.
HTC Desire is not available through any carriers, or even online shops
which usually provide cellphones much earlier than official shops.
First I ordered it online they told me I had to wait 4 weeks. Since I didn´t want to do that. Than I called a shop and asked if they had it in stock. They just had one left! So rushed to the shop and bought mine
Yeah, it's been selling out everywhere. I got mine in Dublin on the day Meteor released it, I had to ring 4 different stores because they were booked out in most places. I got the second last one they had in stock in Grafton Street (and they only got them in around mid-morning).
And apparently Vodafone and O2 hadn't even planned on stocking it until their customers kicked up a huge fuss on the forums... I guess they were concerned about it eating into 3GS sales. Although maybe I'm giving their business acumen a little too much credit there... the way these guys operate in this country it wouldn't surprise me if they just couldn't have been bothered. Wonder how many customers O2 and Voda lost due to Meteor jumping in ahead of them with the Desire. (Me, for one!)
There goes a possible answer...
Clove.co.uk have been out of stock for weeks. Their last shipment was completely taken up by existing pre-orders, and (opinion) the same may happen with the current shipment too (due about the end of this week, exact arrival date tbc)
play.com claim to have stock - but I think they are fibbing
So, on the one hand, "Yay" for the Desire.
On the other hand, "C'mon, HTC [& samsung]! Get a move on! (but make sure you glue down the screens properly )"
Vodafone NL had a notice in the online shop saying it's not available for 4 weeks. Glad i got mine by mail the day it was released
Tis good news.
Well from HTC's point, you can't not update to 2.2 as the sheer amount of people buying them. IF the nexus one stays as the 2.2 Desire then sales will fall as people buy them instead.
So I am hopeful of June 23rd
Yo I got mine at the very beginning in Hong Kong with a hkd200 which is around 30 usd higher than the original price.
Luckily I made a decision to take it from the store otherwise I might have to wait for five days to two weeks for the phone.
Desire, what a great name.
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Clove.co.uk seem to be fulfilling pre-orders
As far as I can tell, clove started dispatching pre-ordered Desires yesterday (2/6/2010).
Their site still says "Stock delayed until the first week of June. Exact arrival date to be confirmed" but they probably recieved enough to cover some of the existing orders in the pipeline (mine included!)
I bought mine online as well got it had it for two weeks, but I had to send mine for repair, inner earpiece stopped working, and they said they need to replace it, also saying there is shortage have to wait a week or two, not to sure.
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Tis good news.
Well from HTC's point, you can't not update to 2.2 as the sheer amount of people buying them. IF the nexus one stays as the 2.2 Desire then sales will fall as people buy them instead.
So I am hopeful of June 23rd
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Yes, I think you are right. A big desire user base will definitely help ensure (a) future update(s). Bad after sales support for a large user base will also mean large public backlash when people are starting to lose faith in htc their support.
There's definitely a shortage going on. Virgin Mobile (UK) have said that there's a stock shortage on the Desire in particular and it will be ongoing through the WHOLE of June and MOST of July (Probably the whole of July, they said).
They're getting a small shipment in on the 7th, but it's a VERY small shipment. So small, they're no longer selling them on anything less than 30ppm contracts! And that's only to existing Virgin MEDIA contract holders.
Glad I got mine when I did lol

[Q] Import HTC One X or AT&T One XL

I'm looking over in different threads talking about defects in the phone and what not. I'm not usually superstitious, but without fail I've had to replace every smartphone I've ever owned at least once. (iPhone 3GS went twice, Evo went 5 times, MyTouch went once, Amaze went once, Sensation went twice, One S went once, would have gone back again but T-Mobile let me out of my contract and I sent it back) I should note that every time I've listed was for defects. My friends can't believe my track record with smartphones... but I love my phones all the same. I especially enjoy my HTC phones.
So to make a long story short (too late) I'm considering the One X because I have to switch back to AT&T after a long hiatus. Sadly no choice in this as its for work. I have the choice of getting a One X International edition from EBay, Craigslist or the marketplace here and have my 32gb of storage, Tegra 3 for gaming and an unlockable bootloader, but must contend with the possible absence of enforceable warranty since it IS imported...
OR
I can swallow my pride as an IT guy... and go for the local varient.
With its only 16gb of storage (only 10 really useable in my experience with the Amaze).
With its S4 chip (nice, but I do like me some Tegra 3 exclusives.......)
And its Warranty that I can go to one of several local corp stores and have enforced. Our local stores are actually pretty decent.
I don't want to have to own several devices to get the experience I want. I really want to go with the International version for the gaming library open to the Tegra 3, such as Dark Meadow. I know some games end up getting ports or hacks to allow play on other devices... but I like things to "just work" sometimes without too much hassle. I have to deal with hassle day in and day out with my job, I like my devices to be toys once I get home, not more work.
So... yeah. Thoughts?
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but must contend with the possible absence of enforceable warranty since it IS imported...
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You can buy it from an authorized dealer in the UK and it comes with a two-year warranty. I just sent an SGS2 to the UK for repair and Samsung paid to ship it to them and I had to pay 10GBP to have it shipped back. I got my One X from Handtec and it arrived overnight via FedEx. If you buy from Negri or Expansys-USA you can send it to them if it needs repair and they ship it to their overseas affiliates who deal with HTC locally. It takes a lot longer though because of all the hand-offs. SquareTrade also covers grey market phones and if you Google it they're having a 30% off deal for Mother's Day. Buying from Handtec or Clove in the UK assures you'll get a UK (EU) handset. Negri and Expansys have been shipping Malaysian units. Also with the international version you'll get updates directly from HTC, a lot of features AT&T removed (HTC apps, CloudDrive integration), and none of AT&T's crapware. It doesn't matter if you're rooting and ROM'ing. I can't use use non-standard ROMs because I travel overseas a lot so I always get my phones from the UK.
Is there a hardware or software or build quality difference between the Malaysian and EU handsets?
The main reason I'm wondering is because VAT seems so high. I mean, I go from a phone that's just over $600 to a phone thats well over $700... That extra $100 is not appetizing at all really.
I don't do a lot of traveling, I just prefer the international version of this phone to the AT&T variant because it feels like AT&T gave us a worse phone for the same price...
I do tend to root and rom, but having the stock rom without clutter gives me more time to enjoy the phone without having to replace anything.
In the end though I guess what I need to know on the international front is if there is a real difference between the Asian and European One X International or if its just the rom that comes on it (which I guess I can just flash the european rom if its just a software thing)
Edit:
Just checked Handtec and VAT doesn't apply since its being shipped outside the UK via FedEx. At least not according ot everything from before I press "buy"
Shipping does raise it to 630 though compared ot the 609 + free shipping...
So I guess it still stands with the Malaysian vs EU phone differences.
kamui957 said:
Is there a hardware or software or build quality difference between the Malaysian and EU handsets?
The main reason I'm wondering is because VAT seems so high. I mean, I go from a phone that's just over $600 to a phone thats well over $700... That extra $100 is not appetizing at all really.
I don't do a lot of traveling, I just prefer the international version of this phone to the AT&T variant because it feels like AT&T gave us a worse phone for the same price...
I do tend to root and rom, but having the stock rom without clutter gives me more time to enjoy the phone without having to replace anything.
In the end though I guess what I need to know on the international front is if there is a real difference between the Asian and European One X International or if its just the rom that comes on it (which I guess I can just flash the european rom if its just a software thing)
Edit:
Just checked Handtec and VAT doesn't apply since its being shipped outside the UK via FedEx. At least not according ot everything from before I press "buy"
Shipping does raise it to 630 though compared ot the 609 + free shipping...
So I guess it still stands with the Malaysian vs EU phone differences.
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I don't think there are any physical differences; they're all built in the same place. If you're not going to root and replace the ROM, get the UK phone. The Asian phones have Asian english where the UK phones have UK english. Neither have U.S. english out of the box.
BarryH_GEG said:
I don't think there are any physical differences; they're all built in the same place. If you're not going to root and replace the ROM, get the UK phone. The Asian phones have Asian english where the UK phones have UK english. Neither have U.S. english out of the box.
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Would you say the UK phone would be easier to get warranty serviced than an asian one through Expansys?
As for the english, I will be rooting and romming eventually, but I could live with UK english easier than Asian english...

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