[Q] Import HTC One X or AT&T One XL - HTC One X

I'm looking over in different threads talking about defects in the phone and what not. I'm not usually superstitious, but without fail I've had to replace every smartphone I've ever owned at least once. (iPhone 3GS went twice, Evo went 5 times, MyTouch went once, Amaze went once, Sensation went twice, One S went once, would have gone back again but T-Mobile let me out of my contract and I sent it back) I should note that every time I've listed was for defects. My friends can't believe my track record with smartphones... but I love my phones all the same. I especially enjoy my HTC phones.
So to make a long story short (too late) I'm considering the One X because I have to switch back to AT&T after a long hiatus. Sadly no choice in this as its for work. I have the choice of getting a One X International edition from EBay, Craigslist or the marketplace here and have my 32gb of storage, Tegra 3 for gaming and an unlockable bootloader, but must contend with the possible absence of enforceable warranty since it IS imported...
OR
I can swallow my pride as an IT guy... and go for the local varient.
With its only 16gb of storage (only 10 really useable in my experience with the Amaze).
With its S4 chip (nice, but I do like me some Tegra 3 exclusives.......)
And its Warranty that I can go to one of several local corp stores and have enforced. Our local stores are actually pretty decent.
I don't want to have to own several devices to get the experience I want. I really want to go with the International version for the gaming library open to the Tegra 3, such as Dark Meadow. I know some games end up getting ports or hacks to allow play on other devices... but I like things to "just work" sometimes without too much hassle. I have to deal with hassle day in and day out with my job, I like my devices to be toys once I get home, not more work.
So... yeah. Thoughts?

kamui957 said:
but must contend with the possible absence of enforceable warranty since it IS imported...
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You can buy it from an authorized dealer in the UK and it comes with a two-year warranty. I just sent an SGS2 to the UK for repair and Samsung paid to ship it to them and I had to pay 10GBP to have it shipped back. I got my One X from Handtec and it arrived overnight via FedEx. If you buy from Negri or Expansys-USA you can send it to them if it needs repair and they ship it to their overseas affiliates who deal with HTC locally. It takes a lot longer though because of all the hand-offs. SquareTrade also covers grey market phones and if you Google it they're having a 30% off deal for Mother's Day. Buying from Handtec or Clove in the UK assures you'll get a UK (EU) handset. Negri and Expansys have been shipping Malaysian units. Also with the international version you'll get updates directly from HTC, a lot of features AT&T removed (HTC apps, CloudDrive integration), and none of AT&T's crapware. It doesn't matter if you're rooting and ROM'ing. I can't use use non-standard ROMs because I travel overseas a lot so I always get my phones from the UK.

Is there a hardware or software or build quality difference between the Malaysian and EU handsets?
The main reason I'm wondering is because VAT seems so high. I mean, I go from a phone that's just over $600 to a phone thats well over $700... That extra $100 is not appetizing at all really.
I don't do a lot of traveling, I just prefer the international version of this phone to the AT&T variant because it feels like AT&T gave us a worse phone for the same price...
I do tend to root and rom, but having the stock rom without clutter gives me more time to enjoy the phone without having to replace anything.
In the end though I guess what I need to know on the international front is if there is a real difference between the Asian and European One X International or if its just the rom that comes on it (which I guess I can just flash the european rom if its just a software thing)
Edit:
Just checked Handtec and VAT doesn't apply since its being shipped outside the UK via FedEx. At least not according ot everything from before I press "buy"
Shipping does raise it to 630 though compared ot the 609 + free shipping...
So I guess it still stands with the Malaysian vs EU phone differences.

kamui957 said:
Is there a hardware or software or build quality difference between the Malaysian and EU handsets?
The main reason I'm wondering is because VAT seems so high. I mean, I go from a phone that's just over $600 to a phone thats well over $700... That extra $100 is not appetizing at all really.
I don't do a lot of traveling, I just prefer the international version of this phone to the AT&T variant because it feels like AT&T gave us a worse phone for the same price...
I do tend to root and rom, but having the stock rom without clutter gives me more time to enjoy the phone without having to replace anything.
In the end though I guess what I need to know on the international front is if there is a real difference between the Asian and European One X International or if its just the rom that comes on it (which I guess I can just flash the european rom if its just a software thing)
Edit:
Just checked Handtec and VAT doesn't apply since its being shipped outside the UK via FedEx. At least not according ot everything from before I press "buy"
Shipping does raise it to 630 though compared ot the 609 + free shipping...
So I guess it still stands with the Malaysian vs EU phone differences.
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I don't think there are any physical differences; they're all built in the same place. If you're not going to root and replace the ROM, get the UK phone. The Asian phones have Asian english where the UK phones have UK english. Neither have U.S. english out of the box.

BarryH_GEG said:
I don't think there are any physical differences; they're all built in the same place. If you're not going to root and replace the ROM, get the UK phone. The Asian phones have Asian english where the UK phones have UK english. Neither have U.S. english out of the box.
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Would you say the UK phone would be easier to get warranty serviced than an asian one through Expansys?
As for the english, I will be rooting and romming eventually, but I could live with UK english easier than Asian english...

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[COMP]what's so special?

i have got an eye for this device in months but then consideret "what if it's locked or has a perfect spl???" do any of you think this will happen?
i have also been looking at the specs of Nexus versus Bravo
Nexus: http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html
Bravo: http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html
and i can't find big difference
is the thing wich turns of the sound of an incomming call software based?
does the desire have more sensors and addons than Nexus which is not software based? (and beside the FM radio)
will htc actually be sloppier than google with the updates and kernel releases?
will it be easier to work with the nexus kernel than the htc as there probably will be more updates?
and last but not least why should i pick a Bravo instead of a Nexus? (beside HTC Sense)
thank you in advance to bear over with my indecision!!
The Google Nexus isn't sold here?!
And Desire will be sold.
I think thats a big difference.
Or where can I get a Nexus
Isn't NExus US only?
nexus will allso work in europe and it will come 2 europe it just hasn't arrived yet!
im gonna get mine from usa btw, but i have seen many companys selling the N1 in denmark for 4500 kroners and above
which is a skyhigh price as i can get it for 3080 in USA without shipping (7.5 euros=1 DK)
Found a German who is selling for 688€ very expensive. That is 5160DK
its way cheaper getting it from another country!
What I would say is take serious consideration of your country's import duties and taxes, and the method of shipment before you buy.
As I have posted elsewhere on this forum, one time it actually worked out significantly more expensive for me to order some AV equipment from the USA than ordering it from the most expensive store I could find it at in the UK. This was purely due to the US shipper sending the item by courier and quoting the full description and value on the shipping documents. Upon its arrival in the UK the courier submitted it to UK customs (levying their own fee +VAT for doing so), customs then charged their import duty, and then iced the cake with full UK VAT ...that all stung me for an extra 32% on the US retail price + shipping.
...we talk about "Rip-off Britain" in the UK but it's our own Customs & Excise who are the worst culprits of ALL.
Anyhow, all I'm saying is beware, and work out those charges. I worked out that the N1 would cost 480-490GBP delivered from Google US whereas I've pre-ordered the Desire at Clove for 430GBP.
Mind you, having said that I got a pair of Oakley Juliette Ducatti sunglasses (270GBP in the UK) delivered from the US for 132GBP - but they were posted as a gift so big savings can be made.
ralle.gade said:
...will htc actually be sloppier than google with the updates and kernel releases?
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What I'm sure we will find is that HTC will not keep up with Google with releases and updates of Android ...absolutely certainly not once the Desire 2 is announced. They may issue one or two updates during th first year but once the phone is sold what incentive do they have to put time and effort into putting out updates. No, the only updates we are likely to see are those which take no resource to implement or they will put on their new retail phones in order to keep up with the N1 and will subsequently be released on their website.
However, with the N1 being Google's showcase Android device, Google has every incentive to keep the N1 as up-to-date as possible throughout it's life or until the hardware can no longer support Android so that users can show off to their mates and colleagues "Look what my Android can do today!". Hopefully then, those mates and colleagues will go out and get the next latest Android device (Nexus Two maybe?) to be part of it.
...and this situation will be even worse for phones supplied through network operators who spin their own cuts of the OS.
My wife's Orange HTC Hero went in for repair last week and by understanding from the Tech Support is that the latest Android ROM for the stock Hero is 2.7. Unfortunately, as my wife's Hero is branded from Orange it's stuck on 2.6 and I expect will be forever more. I have no faith in Orange releasing an Android 2.1 ROM for their legacy Heros.
1. you really should know about VAT and customs duty. Because here in Germany everything under 150€ has no customs duty and everything under 22€ does not need VAT when imported. So be aware of the exemption limit.
2. Google will only keep updating the nexus one till there is a nexus two.
What if it is shipped as a gift will that make a difference??
maybe but let me tell one example.
I bought a torch from China. It was shipped as a gift.
But the german customs duty personell did look into the package and they did figured out the trick. So I had to pay VAT (because no gift and over 22€). (no customsduty duty because under 150€)
u can buy nexus one in poland for about 500 euros....of course unofficial. the price is with shipping
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What if it is shipped as a gift will that make a difference??
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Doesn't matter gift or not. Customs always look at the total value and if they do not know the total value of the goods, then you will be at the mercy of the custom officer, because then they will estimate the value! In either cases you will be screwed by customs - if caught .
As for The Netherlands all goods that enters here, if I'm not mistaken from the 2008 terms & conditions on import duties, valued above 175 Euro will not be exempted from any tax duties - if caught .
What's special is the physical keys and the optical trackball.

Where to buy?

So after almos 2 years im looking to change my htc incredible, because it feels old and slow compared with recent phones, and my carrier is offering both CMDA and GSM (i feel more comfortable with gsm) and i've always been a fan of qwerty phones,and seeing that HTC isnt going to release an android qwerty phone anytime soon, i checked the specs of the captivate glide and realise that its is really impressive better than the droid 3, cheaper than the droid 4.
im almost convinced to buy it, but before that i would like to clarify two things, one i really would like advice from regular and power users here at xda pros and cons, if it is worth it, or if should i save some extra money to buy the droid 4 (hate motoblur and there's no networks offering LTE on my country.) and the other thing is if anyone knows a reliable place where i can buy it online im from mexico, i have no problems with an glide with the at&t brand, but i've also read that the "rogers" glide doesnt have any brand. but i really dont know where to buy it.
i checked this site (www.negrielectronics.com)and they have it listed but i dont know if its realiable.
any help would be apreciated.
There's one for sale in the Marketplace here on XDA, I believe. You could start there. I upgraded from a T-Mobile G2 and haven't looked back since. The more we get out there, the better. CarpeNoctem has put out a great little ROM for it (OsiMood) and that paired with the Cranium Kernel and Go Launcher has really got me going! I can't make an honest recommendation comparing to Droids, as my only experience with them has been futzing with one of my client's original Droid and his new Droid3, haven't really gotten any regular use time with them...
One further thing, I would check which CDMA and GSM bands your carrier is offering, I believe if I recall correctly that the i927 does not support T-Mobile's 3G band, so you'd be stuck with EDGE for 3G, which is significantly slower...
Good luck, and I hope you love your new phone as much as I love mine
L4T
I think its better than Droid 3..
Haven't tried Droid 4..
If facebranding is not a problem, you can go for at&t model as you can get it cheaper than Rogers..
One of my friend had got a phone through Negri electronics.. So far it is the only site I have come across which ships to almost all the countries..
Also try Ebay.. I got mine for 400$ in an auction.. + additional shipping, duty and unlocking charges..
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talcko said:
(www.negrielectronics.com)
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Sorry, meant to say something about this in my above post - Negri spams the hell out of Craigslist, at least local to me, I wouldn't buy from them for just this reason. If you can't find one here on the XDA Marketplace, I recommend Swappa or Amazon (though you'd probably end up paying more at either of those)
HTH
L4T
thanx for the answers, yeah i said negri becasue its ships everywhere but i trust more on amazon but the thing with amazon its that they dont ship electronics oustide the US (or at least cellphones).
Regarding the bands used by my carrier, AFAIK all carriers in mexico use 850 for GSM and hdspa+ with the exception of one that besides 850 they also use 1900 and if remember correctly both frequencies are available on the glide.
and i would like to know how does the phone feels, average battery life, etc, im really interested in buying one..
talcko said:
thanx for the answers, yeah i said negri becasue its ships everywhere but i trust more on amazon but the thing with amazon its that they dont ship electronics oustide the US (or at least cellphones).
Regarding the bands used by my carrier, AFAIK all carriers in mexico use 850 for GSM and hdspa+ with the exception of one that besides 850 they also use 1900 and if remember correctly both frequencies are available on the glide.
and i would like to know how does the phone feels, average battery life, etc, im really interested in buying one..
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The phone feels great in my hands, just the perfect size and I have a SGS II which feels too big in comparison, it is comfortable with the keyboard slides out as well. The battery life is the best I've encountered of any android phone so far.
Any other suggestion?
I tried:
negrielectronics.com (unlocked, out of stock for now)
mobicity (unlocked, out of stock for now)
canadagsm.com (unlocked)
amazon (locked)
ebay (locked and unlocked, but a bit expensive)
Can somebody provide any other supplier selling this phone? Already unlocked phones would be a very appreciated plus..
Thanks
sbiricuda said:
Any other suggestion?
I tried:
negrielectronics.com (unlocked, out of stock for now)
mobicity (unlocked, out of stock for now)
canadagsm.com (locked)
amazon (locked)
ebay (locked and unlocked, but a bit expensive)
Can somebody provide any other supplier selling this phone? Already unlocked phones would be a very appreciated plus..
Thanks
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+1, i've been hunting this phone for a month already with no luck, anyone with a good site that ships the phone internationally (to mexico) and unlocked would be awesome.
talcko said:
+1, i've been hunting this phone for a month already with no luck, anyone with a good site that ships the phone internationally (to mexico) and unlocked would be awesome.
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So, have you been checking the aforementioned websites all this time?
Negrielectronics wrote me that they can't estimate the backorder time and they invited me to check their website daily. does it mean that the backorder waiting time has been going on for (at least) one month?
Thats right, ive been checking negri almost every day for about a month and they havent re stock it. To bad cuz i really would like yo buy a captivate glide.
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Too bad.
Just to add: rogers.com sells this phone, by the name of Samsung Galaxy S Glide.
Still need to be unlocked, but rogers.com should be more trustworthy than canadagsm.
I also wrote an email to canadagsm, just to ask a couple of questions. Waiting
Update:
canadagsm.ca deals only with unlocked phones. That's great.
Still i don't know if it is a trustworthy supplier or not. Their prices are beaten only by negrielectronics, so they're quite good.
But i don't know if I can trust them. Anyway, they accept Paypal.
I bought mine unlocked from Amazon Wireless, it's being forwarded from the US to the United Arab Emirates with ShopandShip.com.
Well, I ended up buying it on Amazon.
Hope everything will go fine.
I'll give you updates.
sbiricuda said:
Well, I ended up buying it on Amazon.
Hope everything will go fine.
I'll give you updates.
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you're from the U.S?
if not what did you do to make amazon ship to you outside the US
talcko said:
you're from the U.S?
if not what did you do to make amazon ship to you outside the US
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I'm from Italy.
I'll have it shipped to an import/export company that is located in Florida. They'll ship it to me.
Their name is consegnato.com and they offer the service for Italy (shipping and enregistering under europen laws).
Well I got the phone, really liking the build quality and performance, which is no different to a Galaxy S II
Now the challenging part, it's asking for a network code. I bought this unlocked and was not expecting this. I've contacted Amazon Wireless, lets see what they say.
I've had the same problems as you guys, www.negrielectronics.com, it's in fact a reliable site, but they are, like you said before, out of stock, www.canadagsm.com, in fact, have the Galaxy S Glide, Unlocked, tried to order, but have some problems, because, like sbiricuda, I've send my phones to a Courrier in Florida, that send the package to Chile, from where my partner picks it up, and bring it to Argentina for me. And, the guys over www.canadagsm.com, told me that they only send to the same address of your PayPal account, so, I just couldn't close the deal.
Ended up buying it to cellularworld2008 on www.ebay.ca.
Amazon Wireless rep. replied, they said I can return the phone for a full refund or call AT&T to get the unlock code. Looks like I'll have to unlock it myself!
Amazon Wireless has now changed "Unlocked" to "Upgrade" when you buy that phone full price.
*sigh*
I bought a Locked phone, so I was aware that I have to unlock it after reception when I did it.
I know that it is annoying but I suggest to get an unlock code from americanunlocker or cellunlocker. It looks cheaper than sending the phone back or calling AT&T from your country. If you do, please share your experience with them!

Want to buy the European version of the One X

I am in the US and would like to buy the European version of the phone to ensure I get timely updates. Where have people been buying there phones? I do not want an Asian version.
Or just get any international HOX and root it? You can get any update anytime you want
you should buy the real Phone in a official flagship store, or you can buy it on the normal online shop store, and much more atention should be paid to the fake phone, because these days, many owners of online shop cheat we customers.
Some sellers on Amazon have the international version, usually the ones with 32gig are the tegra3 one x. Not sure if they differentiate between the EU and Asian versions. You can always ask the seller , and make sure its from a reputable seller. I've noticed some listings dont offer a warranty.
HTC US can't get import the mainboards due to some Apple nonsense.
BenPope said:
HTC US can't get import the mainboards due to some Apple nonsense.
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Yes, that's right! The current state of HTC revenue fall has been impacted by the blocking of their phones at US customs due to none other than that fruity company. As with where to buy it, I can tell you not to buy it from the UK retailers as even the OTA for UK unbranded phones seems delayed......no point therefore.....So it might be better if you buy it from retailers in Germany (Amazon.de) or elsewhere that gets the OTA on time....:good:

Bootlooping H815 European - Next phone?

Bought a second had H815 w/ country code CZ & already unlocked bootloader about 3 months ago off an ebay seller. Have really fallen in love with the phone but it started the bootlooping last week. With the disappearance of any real subsidies, I like to stay MVNO (Cricket) & mid price-point on my phones after several years of premium pricing w/ Apple / AT&T.
Post-bootlooping I initially bought a hot air station & was gonna try the repair but decided against and selling for parts / repair instead. I've been reviewing phone options and just like when I opted for the G4 initially, it still appears there's no competitor overall (for the money) given requirements of awesome camera and removable SD.
In seeking the best shot at carrying me for a couple of years, my question is, if I'm moving forward with another G4, should I opt for another euro H815 from Handtec or find a late serial AT&T. I'm holding out for G5 release to see what that does to AT&T G4 prices which right now are at $462 with the H815 at Handtec around $400+ whatever shipping.. I'd like to see $300 at AT&T but then again Handtec option has 2 year warranty. With the Handtec option, is one pretty well assured of getting a very late serial (and, btw, what ARE the latest batch numbers).
Thoughts? I _REALLY_ love this phone and there doesn't seem to be another great option. Or maybe G5 but unknown performer..
Has anyone USED the EU warranty through Handtec ? Will unlocking the bootloader void it if dealing with Handtec? Flashing is less and less important to me these days..
Thanks!

[NVM] Any Australian 7T HD190x users ... ?

I'm very seriously considering buying an HD1905 on the US OnePlus site, they've got a decent discount as the 8 is about to launch, and I can grab genuine accessories at the same time. Shame the AUD is so crap right now, but that can't be helped.
I'm interested to know if there are OP7T Australian owners out there, what model variant, what carriers you're on, and if there are any issues with reception.
I'm on Telstra so I'm especially interested to hear from other Telstra users.
I've looked at the various bands in the specs, compared it to the OzTowers guide (that I luckily managed to grab before it shut down), and also looked at frequencycheck.com
My preference is to buy it from OnePlus US. While there are a bunch of "local websites" that purport to sell re-flashed HD1900 units as "Global HD1903", I would much rather get an untouched phone out of the box. The US HD1905 seems to have the broadest international carrier band support from what I can divine from reading.
One of the "local websites" says to email them any questions. So I did and the answers were basically "dunno, ask the carrier" which is pointless since OnePlus have no presence in Australia.
Despite having many Samsung Galaxies over the years I've decided not to consider them. Our Huawei P20 Pro has been good but tech support is hopeless, and no bootloader unlock service anymore, that alone rules them out for me.
So the OnePlus 7T is my preferred choice ... looking forward to hearing from any Aussie users out there.
My friend wanted the 'best phone for the money' and bought this phone on my advice. They ship them from China, but it arrived the next day! They happened to have one in stock in Auckland.
My friend was thrilled but when a truck ran over it (after 3 weeks), not so.
So she's around the next morning and buys another one (~NZ$860). This time it took about a month to arrive as THE VIRUS slowed everything to a trickle.
We have a great website in NZ pricespy.co.nz and you'll have something like that in Oz.
Buying from the US is fraught. Postage costs an arm and a leg.
HTH
tpsnjs said:
My friend wanted the 'best phone for the money' and bought this phone on my advice. They ship them from China, but it arrived the next day! They happened to have one in stock in Auckland.
My friend was thrilled but when a truck ran over it (after 3 weeks), not so.
So she's around the next morning and buys another one (~NZ$860). This time it took about a month to arrive as THE VIRUS slowed everything to a trickle.
We have a great website in NZ pricespy.co.nz and you'll have something like that in Oz.
Buying from the US is fraught. Postage costs an arm and a leg.
HTH
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Thanks for the feedback, I've actually just bought a Galaxy S20 from JB as they had a decent discount for a newly released phone. The deciding factors against the OnePlus on this occasion was the total lack of Australian support, lack of IP68, the many negative service/warranty related user reviews on different sites selling them, and the idea that I'd be facing massive turnaround to ship it back to the US for warranty.
Shipping from the US isn't a problem for me as I regularly send consolidated packages through a 3rd party shipper.
Plus in these uncertain times we're making an effort to support the local outlets.

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