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TV-Out on Diamond?

g´d evening,
now that there are several dumps of pro roms doing it´s rounds - i was wondering if there are any news about a possible tv-out in the diamond. last time i checked the forum and the news on various sites there was mentioned that they share the same hw (exept for the keyboard). so, is there any chance that we´ll ever be able to hook it up to our tvs?

this model don't have TV-Out, the only connector is mini USBext (= mini usb + stereo headtset )

Yes but the Diamond Pro also have the same connection and has a cable with the s-video out function...

TarKin - interesting proposition. By maybe I think that we won't know until some of our cookers get hold of some HTC touch pro roms. Also I think that it is not a s-video out - only composite video?

Okay if there is a TV out on this Jewel THATS it!!!
Best device ever!
By farrrr

timn2087 said:
TarKin - interesting proposition. By maybe I think that we won't know until some of our cookers get hold of some HTC touch pro roms. Also I think that it is not a s-video out - only composite video?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406943
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410305
It seems that they've already seen it... let's hope...

Charge or synchronise your HTC Touch Diamond simply by placing the device in the cradle connector. You can plug the desktop cradle into a home stereo system via the cradle’s 3.5mm line out connection to enjoy high quality music playback.
Intergrated Spare Battery Charger
It can be charged and synchronised with HTC Touch Diamond AC Adaptor UK TC B100 (not included) or HTC Touch Diamond Data Cable DC U300 (USB/miniUSB) (not included).
This cradle comes with two inserts (the plastic holders) for Touch Diamond and Touch Diamond extended battery and it also supports the inline connection of the following optional accessories:
HTC Touch Diamond Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200
TV Out Cable TC A110 (pre-release)
This is for the desktop cradle for the touch diamond, gotten from expansys. dont know if it has anything to say, but i hope so

yes the cable does Exist for the Diamond, though its not available in the Current ROM hence why the adapter is "pre-release".

@walshieau
do i understand you correctly: *your* opinion is that it´s just a matter of time until we´ll see a working tv-out (rom+cable) or the diamond? is that correct?

TarKin said:
@walshieau
do i understand you correctly: *your* opinion is that it´s just a matter of time until we´ll see a working tv-out (rom+cable) or the diamond? is that correct?
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yes that is correct

Sounds really really interesting...

A TV out on HTC Diamond!! So good!!

It must have some kind ov Video output!
Check this demonstration! His fooling around with a Dimond connected to a TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsM
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Well, when the Gameboy was released, you could play tetris on TVs in the shops. For many years I thought "hey, they might bring out a tv adapter someday". They never did.
But hey, this is 2008 ! everything is possible !

zme999 said:
It must have some kind ov Video output!
Check this demonstration! His fooling around with a Dimond connected to a TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsM
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it`s probably not an TV but beamer connected to pc which is connected with diamond through BT or WiFi and some software for presenting mode ?

I already have the mini USB to VGA out connector! Yes, from the HTC Athena. Only if the ROM is ready, id be glad to test it out.
Regards,
Carty..

Nicee...let´s wait for the rom...or a cab to update drivers, theres already diamond pro roms out there..lets see if anyone can find out if it realy have tv-out he only thing missing in this beaty

Ridiculous
How many other threads related to this should be initiated of what we already have?
it does not belong in here (ROM thread)
it belongs in accesories as we talk about a cable yes? ,
When using the Search function "vide out" you'll find plenty of posts - threads already.
Expansys has- had removed the cable (picture) from all their websites for unknown reason otherwise you will see how it look. Easy to copy-cat.
And for God sake yes, spread the following math:
11(or 16pin TBC) USB to Cinch Cable + Rom tweak = Video out
(though this needs to be proven. ... Same as the never found solution for the TytnII drivers)

ceevee369 said:
How many other threads related to this should be initiated of what we already have?
it does not belong in here (ROM thread)
it belongs in accesories as we talk about a cable yes? ,
When using the Search function "vide out" you'll find plenty of posts - threads already.
Expansys has- had removed the cable (picture) from all their websites for unknown reason otherwise you will see how it look. Easy to copy-cat.
And for God sake yes, spread the following math:
11(or 16pin TBC) USB to Cinch Cable + Rom tweak = Video out
(though this needs to be proven. ... Same as the never found solution for the TytnII drivers)
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Hello, this is definitely about ROM thread *we are talking about whether the ROM supports TV out* we are not merely talking about some lead. If the ROM supports TV out, we could either use the lead from the Touch Pro, or we could make our own. Until it comes to the issue of "leads" this will remain a ROM issue. Perhaps when we are discussing leads and adapters we will need to use the "accessories" area, and then you can contribute some helpful infos. cheers

Bullocks. but... whatever you say .. whatever you say.
I won't argue. I am too old for this
Anyone used the search function on "video out" no I guess?

Connect a DVB-T stick?

Hi Everybody,
is it possible to connect a DVB-T stick to an HTC device? With such a stick You could watch TV free of charge (in some countries)!
P.S.: I have a XDA Orbit (=Artemis)

If device have usb host, and you will write driver for it... almost impossible

elektrownik said:
If device have usb host, and you will write driver for it... almost impossible
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Which HTC or other device has usb host?

I'm not sure my ipaq 214 have, htc athena also have, it need full usb host not only otg, htc dream have otg, upcoming htc thot should also have full host, dont know about other devices, maybe diamond or touch hd ?

maybe but its a usb?? i think its you have 35% possililty
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athena is the only wm device from htc I have verified got working usb host
and even with usb host a driver is required
of the makers of the dvb-t stick haven't made one
it could take years for people to reverse engineer
a pc driver to make a wm driver

I believe that if there are phones like this that are DVB-T enabled, it is because there is some sort of driver for it already. I agree that it would not be the exact same as connecting something via USB but at least we already have some sort of driver available for wi-mo devices; it would only need one of the great brains in here with enough interest in developing it further.

Possible with SDIO
wovens said:
I believe that if there are phones like this that are DVB-T enabled, it is because there is some sort of driver for it already. I agree that it would not be the exact same as connecting something via USB but at least we already have some sort of driver available for wi-mo devices; it would only need one of the great brains in here with enough interest in developing it further.
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You can watch TV on your HTC , Instead of buying a USB DVT , You need to buy SDIO DVT ...
Some are available on ebay and other sites
examples :
http://www.eopstech.com/eops/pro3.jsp
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SDIO-TV-Tune...ItemQQimsxZ20090526?IMSfp=TL090526149001r7516

"but at least we already have some sort of driver available for wi-mo devices"
problem is that a driver is very very different depending on what interface
as the driver is talking to the interface not the chip directly
on a pc there is a world of difference between an usbTvcard and a pciTvcards driver

Looking for a mobile device with USB host

I wonder which, if any, mobile device has USB hosting capability.
I want to connect an external web cam, but USB of course has many other applications too. I don't understand why it is not a standard feature. Do I have to go UMPC to get a mobile device with USB host?

USBquestioner said:
I wonder which, if any, mobile device has USB hosting capability.
I want to connect an external web cam, but USB of course has many other applications too. I don't understand why it is not a standard feature. Do I have to go UMPC to get a mobile device with USB host?
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you can use your windows mobile device as a webcam. i forgot the name of the software but it can be done. also what other things would you use usb host for? maybe there are other solutions.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
is one of the few wm devices only one from htc that I know of which support usb host

x7510 works well.
i'm just selling mine in ebay... :-( because i changed to HD2 xD

I saw a video on YouTube that said that the Toshiba G900 lets you connect USB Flash Drives to it.

Toshiba G900
Palm Treo 800w
Toshiba TG01
There are some others that are older and even harder to find. There are some hacks for others, but nothing that's truly useful, yet.
COME ON MANUFACTURERS! GET YOUR ACTS TOGETHER AND GIVE CUSTOMERS WHAT THEY WANT!

Someone with a nexus one scripted a host driver for his phone and he plugged a keyboard into it and typed stuff..... can't remember the video but a quick search should bring it up

o2 xda flame can do it as well

Calcu said:
x7510 works horribly
i'm just selling mine in ebay... :-( because i changed to Diamond xD
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Isn't the x7510 the athena?

USB OTG cable working in my SGSII [Video proof!]

Hi everyone, quick word to all that these are working with the SGSII. No need to wait until Samsung release them in 1-2 months, and at 6x the price!
Clove Blog will have my video proof up in a couple of hours.
Only enough power to supply pendrives, but drives with their own power supplies, or drives connected to the phone via an externally powered HUB, will work.
Read speeds are fast enough to watch 1080p content.
Unfortunately USB keyboard/mouse, and two different USB gamepads were a fail.
If only I knew a place I could post this where there might be devs around who could read it and make USB gamepad support happen...

NZtechfreak said:
Hi everyone, quick word to all that these are working with the SGSII. No need to wait until Samsung release them in 1-2 months, and at 6x the price!
Clove Blog will have my video proof up in a couple of hours.
Only enough power to supply pendrives, but drives with their own power supplies, or drives connected to the phone via an externally powered HUB, will work.
Read speeds are fast enough to watch 1080p content.
Unfortunately USB keyboard/mouse, and two different USB gamepads were a fail.
If only I knew a place I could post this where there might be devs around who could read it and make USB gamepad support happen...
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Thanks mate, just bought it...

No worries!
Did you see the official ones are priced to sell at like 12pounds!

can it work with a memory card reader?

If the card reader doesn't draw too much power. I tried with one and it didn't work, but if I plug it into my externally powered USB hub then it works fine.

Updated first post with the requisite video proof.

Do you have a link for that dell keyboard & mouse you used in the video?.. it looks great

The Dell Mouse is freely available, I got mine for a song on Ebay.
The keyboard is awesome, but sadly no longer made. Its a Dell-branded 'iGo Stowaway Ultraslim" keyboard, has a truly great hinge mechanism and folds down to next to nothing. You may be able to find it somewhere, but last time I checked I couldn't find any. There are lots of cheap HID profile BT keyboards out there, check my thread in the Galaxy S forums - lots of people confirmed various ones working.

Amazing! excellent video and info
it was nice to also demo the BT keyboard & mouse
thanks

OP, thank you!
Are you rooted? Anything special needed to do the bluetooth? Anything special other than the adapter cable needed for the USB memory stick?

@OP = great post and very informative video

K5TRX said:
OP, thank you!
Are you rooted? Anything special needed to do the bluetooth? Anything special other than the adapter cable needed for the USB memory stick?
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Yep, its Rooted, but that was only for app restoration. There are no mods or hacks applied, everything you're seeing is stock functionality.

would this work on a galaxy s 1? if anyone knows

0utkast said:
would this work on a galaxy s 1? if anyone knows
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or desire ;p

I don't think either the Desire or the Galaxy S will do USB OTG (although the Desire may have it baked into a custom ROM, because I know it was enabled in the Nexus 1 with a mod, I don't know enough about Desire custom ROMs to know).
The original Galaxy S does support bluetooth keyboard and mouse though (I have a demo of that in my youtube channel also).

Quick ?
Can you use the BT keyboard without the virtual one popping up?

Hope they release the USB on the go cable ASAP!!!. Thank you very much for the video, it made me get more ansious to get one of this cables and be able to connect my external hard drive full of MKV files.

kior22 said:
Hope they release the USB on the go cable ASAP!!!. Thank you very much for the video, it made me get more ansious to get one of this cables and be able to connect my external hard drive full of MKV files.
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The first post links to ebay which has cables that work already. They are not OEM but do the trick

NZ, grats check this out
http://www.talkandroid.com/40821-sa...ndard-usb-otg-cable-for-usb-on-the-go-access/
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Great news....

Anyone get USB on-the-go (HOST) working

The European SGII does USB hosting with the proper adapter. I ordered this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GGBYJ4
nothing happens when I connect my phone to a FAT 32 formatted thumb drive. The thumb drive works in my Acer Iconia.
I wonder if I got a bad adapter or if Sprint disabled On-The-Go.

I can't seem to get it working either. Anyone know a way to enable it. I really wanted this phone for this feature.

from what I've seen on youtube the "host" message pops up as soon as the cable is plugged in. No enabling required. These were all European SGSII though. Samsung's own Epic 4G touch claims it works
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-epic-4g-touch#CLIP

No host for Sprint & TMO
Client only per PDADB.net
AT&T will get the OTG host capabilities.

WHAT! WTF. That means the samsung site is wrong or Sprint actually went out of their way to disable this feature.

There has to be a way to re-enable it like what was done on the HTC HD2. I hope the source proves useful in providing the solution to unlock the feature which is advertised.

The review model AnandTech had appeared to have USB host working ... so if it doesn't work on store models, it should be a firmware issue.
Note that I don't have an E4GT, I'm just thinking with you.
If on the E4GT, you can find "DSLR Controller" in the market, at least the firmware reports that it is supporting USB host ... (if it doesn't, the app will not show up in Market)

Thanks for the issue. How difficult would it be for someone to work on a firmware modification? What does it entail? Where would one start?

crap. that was also one of the main points i decided to upgrade. also i had just moments before ordered that same USB host...

DSLR Controller beta shows up in the market from my phone.

anubis13 said:
DSLR Controller beta shows up in the market from my phone.
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Well then, as I said, the phone is actually reporting to Google that it does support USB host. Maybe they made some other mistake ? The Xoom on Android 3.1 has the same issue, USB host only half works (fixed in 3.2)
EDIT: Also, have you considered bad cables? I have read recently a lot of these OTG cables are pretty crappy and may not work. Note that popping in just the OTG cable without anything attached should already flash a notification at you (though the actual popup only happens when you connect a device)

yes I considered it.
my original post "I wonder if I got a bad adapter or if Sprint disabled On-The-Go."
I have another cable on the way so I will rule it out. It would still be nice to see if only me and JAmerican have this issue, Is it disabled? Did we get broken phones?

anubis13 said:
yes I considered it.
my original post "I wonder if I got a bad adapter or if Sprint disabled On-The-Go."
I have another cable on the way so I will rule it out. It would still be nice to see if only me and JAmerican have this issue, Is it disabled? Did we get broken phones?
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I doubt our phones are defective. I believe Sprint disabled the feature. The cable I have works because I used it on my Treo 800w and had no problems.

Just tried the cable and drive in a E4GT demo in a Sprint store. No host message.
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Go to the AT&T store and see if the infuse has the same problem
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Samsung shows USB Host support here:
(sorry, cant post outside links, yet)
samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-epic-4g-touch#USB
I have five different OTG cables, none work. Must be a firmware issue.
I do have three SGSII OTG cables.
Update: Just emailed Samsung Support... We wait...

If host is disabled (and it looks that way) I doubt there is anything we can do about it. There is NO mention of USB Host on any Sprint website or publication. It does look like the hardware is capable so maybe someone will grab the European drivers and roll them into a flashable update.

-logik- said:
Samsung shows USB Host support here:
(sorry, cant post outside links, yet)
samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-epic-4g-touch#USB
I have five different OTG cables, none work. Must be a firmware issue.
I do have three SGSII OTG cables.
Update: Just emailed Samsung Support... We wait...
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I fear that Samsung will just remove it from their site and deny such a feature exists on the Sprint version.

there could be hope http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265429&page=18

I believe that Sprint/Samsung disabled this feature because when I checked the Samsung website it showed the micro USB to USB cable and from one day to another (the supported devices) changed from the Epic 4G touch to the Att and T-Mobile variants