With Android 2.1 running on HTC Fuze, the wheel light cycles as when charging under Windows Mobil. This seems to help the battery die soon. Don't seem to be any settings relative. Any others seeing this? Any solutions found?
Thanks in advance, RAR.
AT&T Fuze, WM 6.5 TAEL 5.2.23544, XDANDROID31310
It's "breathing" to le tyou know it's in a deep sleep state and not wasting battery. It's an LED bulb, so it's not using much battery at all.
Yea the battery is being drained by many other things, the "breathing" LED is certainly not one of the main contributing factors, I can guarantee you that.
The LED might pull 1-2 % battery if you use the phone for like.. A week.
Wow
I guess I believe you folks. However, that function is about as dumb as the lights on all of my electronic equipment telling me their off. Lights used to mean, "Hey, I'm on."
Cheers,
RAR
AT&T Fuze, WM 6.5 TAEL 5.2.23544, XDANDROID31310
You can disable it by deleting a line in the startup, if you don't like it.
It was debug something...
Insaneboy said:
You can disable it by deleting a line in the startup, if you don't like it.
It was debug something...
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It was to debug deep sleep. If you get the breathing lights, it's sleeping. Sorry, this project IS NOT ready for the masses, and you (real2935) are acting like the masses all by yourself. It doesn't help anybody to complain about things the devs put in place to help themselves. Hell, they could've kept this entire project to themselves and only released it when they deemed it ready - and you wouldn't be able to use it at all. Even worse, the devs could've just kept the ENTIRE project to themselves and NEVER released it. So quit whining.
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Ah, My Dearest arrghhh, you may be young, so I will endeavor to be patient. As all of the others, your first comment was informative and taught me much. My second comment was meant to be "tongue in cheek,... that means it was a joke. Many of us who are not programmers, are still quite technically savvy. You have a great opportunity to teach without being condescending. You will chase many of the "masses" away from becoming better. I hope that is not you intention. That would be sad. Next time I will put a Happy Face so that you will know I'm kidding when I am.
Cheers, RAR
Rar,
You must realize that thinking a little breathing LED is killing your battery is well... silly. When you just stop and think before you post, no body gets hurt
Okay. Enough.
Rar, the LEDs are not killing any battery. But there should be an APK somewhere in the XDAndroid thread for a program that removes it. Though I would advise using it as it shows that your phone is using minimal power and that nothing is keeping it from sleep.
Arrrghhh. Remember, not everyone thinks the same
ok ok everybody
dont laugh on anybody and of course asking this is not silly at all. this happens when people are not sure about something, and so we ask questions.
if anybody misunderstand anybody, its fine too. as long as we get the actual meaning afterwards.
I donno how we can disable the breath light but i m pretty sure it doesnt cost battery. it might be the same if you put your battery unused for a week (in that case the power still will go down like a few percents). since android is super stable for daily use, i suggest keep the light too. just to let you know if he is sleeping or totally dead...sometimes it happens. it just turns itself off or freezes.
Well I read somewhere that you actually use the program LED Effects to change the behavior of the breathe LED... but I can't find it in my build, and my LED definitely breathes for me when it's in sleep mode!
I like having the LED, lets me know that Android is still running OK.
to me i think the breathing lead was used to know that the phone has gone to deep sleep mode and not just having the screen being black and still using full power, u put the phone to sleep and the led isnt breathing then either the phone isnt in deep sleep or it had frozen. in earlier builds there used to be alot of probems with the phone not going into deep sleep or freezing after a few hours after being in deep sleep.
i have a solution
turn the phone face down. that way you wont see it breathing
Otherwise you can modify the build.prop and comment out the line for led breathing. Haven't looked into android for awhile so cant remember which lines you need to comment/remove out.
If you use LED Effects, you can set various LED flashing modes for various events, such as deep sleep, incoming call, text, charging, etc...I agree with leaving it on, it lets you know that it is in deep sleep. Without that, you wouldn't know if you device has froze or just had the screen turned off. In that case you would have to try to turn it back on to check, when you could just see if it is 'breathing' instead. If you can't find the LED Effects .apk, I have attached it below.
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If you use LED Effects, you can set various LED flashing modes for various events, such as deep sleep, incoming call, text, charging, etc...I agree with leaving it on, it lets you know that it is in deep sleep. Without that, you wouldn't know if you device has froze or just had the screen turned off. In that case you would have to try to turn it back on to check, when you could just see if it is 'breathing' instead. If you can't find the LED Effects .apk, I have attached it below.
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This is in the newer XDA builds...
chrialex said:
If you use LED Effects, you can set various LED flashing modes for various events, such as deep sleep, incoming call, text, charging, etc...I agree with leaving it on, it lets you know that it is in deep sleep. Without that, you wouldn't know if you device has froze or just had the screen turned off. In that case you would have to try to turn it back on to check, when you could just see if it is 'breathing' instead. If you can't find the LED Effects .apk, I have attached it below.
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this does work
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sometimes it is yellow, and sometime it is green? Is it a known issue?
ccz99 said:
sometimes it is yellow, and sometime it is green? Is it a known issue?
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Green indicates it's sleeping. Orange (yellow??) indicates it's awake for one reason or another...
Anyway to shut the light off?
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Anyway to shut the light off?
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Not at present, although I think work is being done to get LEDEffects working on our devices. It's just for debugging/troubleshooting dude, you realize this project is far from complete right?
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Not at present, although I think work is being done to get LEDEffects working on our devices. It's just for debugging/troubleshooting dude, you realize this project is far from complete right?
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Yes, I realize that Android on the TP2 is a work in progress. All I asked is if it was possible to just the LED off; I didn't realize asking that was in the same league as, "WTF? No BT!!! This SUX!"
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Yes, I realize that Android on the TP2 is a work in progress. All I asked is if it was possible to just the LED off; I didn't realize asking that was in the same league as, "WTF? No BT!!! This SUX!"
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Hahaha no worries dude not my intention at all. Just wanted to make you aware that some of the debugging stuff that's enabled now won't be enabled when it's "complete".
Is it possible to just shut the light completely off, as in never on for anything? The orange light is ALWAYS on. I don't need to control the light for different functions, just turn it off. I'm about ready to snip wires! Hopefully there's an easier way...
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Is it possible to just shut the light completely off, as in never on for anything? The orange light is ALWAYS on. I don't need to control the light for different functions, just turn it off. I'm about ready to snip wires! Hopefully there's an easier way...
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Uhm... it indicates sleep state - which we're still having issues with and if your phone is ALWYAS orange, then the phone is NEVER sleeping - which will absolutely kill your battery.
Make sure there's no rogue apps stealing proc cycles, and make sure GPS is disabled in Loc&Sec.
Call me lucky, but my indicator light is always blank, even while its charging (When in fryo x)
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bijan588 said:
Call me lucky, but my indicator light is always blank, even while its charging (When in fryo x)
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I would call you unlucky. I like knowing if the phone is sleeping or not - has drastic negative effects on battery life if the phone doesn't sleep.
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Uhm... it indicates sleep state - which we're still having issues with and if your phone is ALWYAS orange, then the phone is NEVER sleeping - which will absolutely kill your battery.
Make sure there's no rogue apps stealing proc cycles, and make sure GPS is disabled in Loc&Sec.
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Hm... Mine's always on orange too. I thought this was normal.
What could I be doing wrong?
mike92585 said:
Hm... Mine's always on orange too. I thought this was normal.
What could I be doing wrong?
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Make sure there's no rogue apps stealing proc cycles, and make sure GPS is disabled in Loc&Sec.
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Those are probably the two most common reasons my phone isn't sleeping, but obviously there's a lot of other factors to a phone properly sleeping.
Hence the reason for the LED indicator... it lets you know if the phone is sleeping or not, as having the phone always running at full tilt is not good for battery life.
Did a search, and didn't find anything regarding this, so I'll point this out. I've noticed whenever my Kaiser (KAIS100) goes to sleep, it doesn't actually sleep, I can still press every button and the phone will "wake", screen comes on.
When I check Spare Parts > Battery History, it shows my phone's been running for 5days even though it's been on for 10 minutes actual. If I continue to put the phone to sleep that time grows exponentially.
Is my KAIS really sleeping, or is there a bug somewhere?
I'm running l1q1d's latest .32 kernel, with Fat Free Froyo build with system/data on NAND.
Battery also only lasts about 8hrs in "standby", and not even 2hrs with full use. With WinMo, I get about 36hrs standby, and about 5hrs full use.
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I've noticed whenever my Kaiser (KAIS100) goes to sleep, it doesn't actually sleep, I can still press every button and the phone will "wake", screen comes on.
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Screen comes on, obiusly, but its locked right? that the way its ment to be... if you wanna check the hour or see if u got messages or missed calls... or it unlocks?
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When I check Spare Parts > Battery History, it shows my phone's been running for 5days even though it's been on for 10 minutes actual. If I continue to put the phone to sleep that time grows exponentially.
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I guess its not completley implemented yet, search this forum I remember I looked something about it, or post a comment to our good friend n2rjt in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782269
Have you modified .nbh file with atools and entered the correct value on the advanced batt capacity? (units = battery real mAh * 1.6) if you havent or if you own an old battery you'll experience a lot of batt consumption or inaccurate readings....
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Screen comes on, obiusly, but its locked right? that the way its ment to be... if you wanna check the hour or see if u got messages or missed calls... or it unlocks?
I guess its not completley implemented yet, search this forum I remember I looked something about it, or post a comment to our good friend n2rjt in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782269
Have you modified .nbh file with atools and entered the correct value on the advanced batt capacity? (units = battery real mAh * 1.6) if you havent or if you own an old battery you'll experience a lot of batt consumption or inaccurate readings....
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The phone locks like it's suppose too, but the problem I'm having is the CPU of the Kaiser isn't actually falling asleep. I'm getting the same battery consumption as when the screen is off compared to on, and sitting there (no activity on my part, just leaving the screen on for no reason )
Every so often the phone will be asleep, and the only way to bring it back on is by hitting the power button, but about 95% of the time I can press the call button, end button, OK button, IE button, hell even push down on the wheel on the other side of the Kaiser and the screen will come on showing the lock screen.
As far as the battery capacity, I have not done that, but the phone's been auto-learning my capacity, and it will get to the 2160 units, compared to the 2000 it's always set too, and sometimes reach 2377 units.
I have tried several Radio versions, down to 1.65.xx.xx version (which was the original version on my phone), and no changes, and tried different builds and no change either. DZOs kernel doesn't make a difference either, except screw up my battery meter completely. lol
uhm thats wierd.. i can only unlock through the power button, what i have experienced is that if its conected to an external power source it does reacts to any button I press.... but not on battery... maybe its a build issue... right now im using scoots CM rls 5a, dont remember if warbyte's donut behave like that...
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uhm thats wierd.. i can only unlock through the power button, what i have experienced is that if its conected to an external power source it does reacts to any button I press.... but not on battery... maybe its a build issue... right now im using scoots CM rls 5a, dont remember if warbyte's donut behave like that...
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Did some more testing, and found that without it plugged into power it does only respond to the power button, but again it's only about 15-20% of the time, and even those times seem iffy as it just seems like the phone's just slow to respond.
Phone is also somewhat warm as well even when "off", and I do have the phone overclocked to 450MHz, kernel is set to 425 (running a test on speed/stability atm)
At 425MHz it's still reasonably warm, and at 450 the temperature jumps alot.
Anyone else have an issue of the tap sounds when tapping on the screen sometimes not playing? Granted phone quality is great, and GPS is working well, though Camera is broken on my end, even though it was working before.
It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.
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It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.
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by chanse wasnt weather widget? had a really bad slowdown over scoots CM because of that widget, was constantly trying to update the weather....
albertorodast2007 said:
by chanse wasnt weather widget? had a really bad slowdown over scoots CM because of that widget, was constantly trying to update the weather....
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Yes that's the one. it needs to be removed, and can be replaced by Fancy Widget.
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n2rjt said:
It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.
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Ok, I'll give it a whirl, and remove some of the widgets I have running, and see if it does help out. Right now though I'm re-installing /system as I tried messing around with the density as 110 seems to work real well with where things are placed on the home screen (no widgets are overlapping each other), but Market won't work, and the Android Keyboard keeps crashing (on-screen).
But anyways, phone's booting back up, so I'll test out the battery life here again, as I got about 95% charge right now, so should serve as a good test for battery life, and CPU Sleepage.
Having a similar issue, seems to behave ok (screen lock comes on when I press power button) but power usage on standby is similar to original poster's. About 8 hours standby. Went to bed last night and it said 66% charged (1300mAH battery) and it didn't last the night. Takes a looooong time to charge to full though so I doubt it's lying about fully charging the battery, suggesting it's using it up at a fast rate.
How do I check background tasks?
Edit: This is with WiFi, GPS and Sync OFF by the way. On the other hand I live in a low signal area (typically 1-2 bars) could it be straining to get a better signal? Used to have an old nokia that used to run itself flat in no time when there was a low/missing signal!
Edit 2 : Figured it out, turns out the ebay app has a service and a process running - even with notifications turned off! Have killed these and see if anything improves
That could very well be part of the problem, although it shouldn't kill it from 66% with just the radio. How much capacity does it calibrate itself to?
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Having a similar issue, seems to behave ok (screen lock comes on when I press power button) but power usage on standby is similar to original poster's. About 8 hours standby. Went to bed last night and it said 66% charged (1300mAH battery) and it didn't last the night. Takes a looooong time to charge to full though so I doubt it's lying about fully charging the battery, suggesting it's using it up at a fast rate.
How do I check background tasks?
Edit: This is with WiFi, GPS and Sync OFF by the way. On the other hand I live in a low signal area (typically 1-2 bars) could it be straining to get a better signal? Used to have an old nokia that used to run itself flat in no time when there was a low/missing signal!
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Phone Radio really shouldn't use more power with low signal, in fact it really shouldn't affect power output at all (well except the fact that it's on). I have a 1350mAH battery, but it's reading at 2470 adjusted, so I re-flashed a new kernel with the new battery changes, now it's reading 2437units adjusted, which is over 1500mAH for the battery which is not what I own. But on the bright side, my battery capabilities are improving, and the battery meter is starting to read alittle more accurately.
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Phone Radio really shouldn't use more power with low signal, in fact it really shouldn't affect power output at all (well except the fact that it's on). I have a 1350mAH battery, but it's reading at 2470 adjusted, so I re-flashed a new kernel with the new battery changes, now it's reading 2437units adjusted, which is over 1500mAH for the battery which is not what I own. But on the bright side, my battery capabilities are improving, and the battery meter is starting to read alittle more accurately.
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yes, i boutght seidio 1600 mAh, and the kernel ended up adjusting it to 3260 units... (about 2000 mAh) maybe the 1.6 factor isnt right just as n2rjt said, maybe its closer to the 2.0
Seems like ebay may have been the culprit. Killed the ebay process and application in the background and only used about 10% over night (as opposed to over 60% the night before). I'll have to leave it overnight with ebay running again for a proper scientific test next
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Seems like ebay may have been the culprit. Killed the ebay process and application in the background and only used about 10% over night (as opposed to over 60% the night before). I'll have to leave it overnight with ebay running again for a proper scientific test next
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Yah, I'm starting to run into issues with certain apps keeping the phone awake and not letting it sleep. I kill some of the apps and it actually helps out the battery some.
I installed the original launcher from one of the other froyo builds, but came across with an FC with acore, so now back with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro.
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Yah, I'm starting to run into issues with certain apps keeping the phone awake and not letting it sleep. I kill some of the apps and it actually helps out the battery some.
I installed the original launcher from one of the other froyo builds, but came across with an FC with acore, so now back with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro.
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When you install a app, take a look at its requirements, like "PREVENT FROM SLEEP". You might have a app doing just that..
daedric said:
When you install a app, take a look at its requirements, like "PREVENT FROM SLEEP". You might have a app doing just that..
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Yep, most of the apps I download have that. But in sad news, I'm actually going back to WMO 6.5 as I can't seem to keep Android stable on my kaiser.. I've reinstall the same build twice (which I know is not corrupted, as it was working fine 2 days ago), and Market is always corrupted...... So, for now, until I have a secondary phone I can revert too, I'll be going back to WMO for the time being.
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Yep, most of the apps I download have that. But in sad news, I'm actually going back to WMO 6.5 as I can't seem to keep Android stable on my kaiser.. I've reinstall the same build twice (which I know is not corrupted, as it was working fine 2 days ago), and Market is always corrupted...... So, for now, until I have a secondary phone I can revert too, I'll be going back to WMO for the time being.
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Umh... sad...
We'll wait for you! Bye bye
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Umh... sad...
We'll wait for you! Bye bye
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LOL! Not like I'm leaving, I'll be popping on here every so often, and still doesn't mean I'll use Haret to load up Android to test out new builds that come out, and new kernels that are released in the future.
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LOL! Not like I'm leaving, I'll be popping on here every so often, and still doesn't mean I'll use Haret to load up Android to test out new builds that come out, and new kernels that are released in the future.
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Man... that's a sin! You can't do that! You'll be off from the Brotherhood!
Kiddin' ;D
I know it sounds silly, But are we supposed to turn androide phones off?
The reason i ask this is becuase 1# the alarm wont go off if you turn phone off so you need to enable flight mode.
And 2nd# when i turn off the phone and turn it back on it will default back to normal theme.
so just wondering really if i am right or wrong?
Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....so it's best to leave it in stand-by (screen off). As for alarm clocks, you can always disable them in the clock....I'm not sure what you are trying to say about the flight mode....that's generally used to disable wireless communications and I am unaware of its effects on the alarm clock.
The phone should be able to return to your custom theme after you turn it back on....I wonder why yours does that...
As an aside, I don't think turning the phone on and off reboots everything!
I had a situation where on startup the phone was really slow and unresponsive, like something was using lots of CPU cycles. Eventually after a few minutes the phone just rebooted.
Turning it off and on did not fix this, however pulling the battery out DID fix it. So pulling the battery must reset something that a simple switch off/on doesn't.
I only turn mine off if flashing a new ROM, wanting to remove the SD card. Otherwise it's on 24/7
I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?
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Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....
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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.
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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.
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Agreed.
I keep mine on 24/7 though. Only time it is off, is when a new ROM is being flashed or I remove the SD card - so, hardly ever.
I'm sure I turned my phone off once (or maybe it was my old phone) and the alarm went off still... was on an aeroplane too so I secretly tried to shush it up!
I turn it off every night...have done to all my phones... cant see anything wrong in this. The phone works fine, it's off for about 7 hrs, yes I have to reset a few things here and there ... but It's fine.. sync all my google stuff in the morning .. fab .
It's always charged at work in the day , so may be the battery is running low, but as I plug it in every day .. I dont see it ...
The wifi is also on at work .
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I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?
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possible. My phone does the same, when I turn it off it returns to the normal livewallpaper instead of my selected one.
My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound
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My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound
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I agree - or just ignore the person and laugh evilly while they try and call you!
I tried using the app called Light Flow in order to control the LED notification colours, seems to have been draining the battery..anyone else experience this?
Yeah I've noticed something causing my cpu to 'wake' more than it should when it should be idle. I've been thinking it might Light Flow, think I'll uninstall it tonight and see how much I lose overnight.
Don't know whether it's been the updates it has been getting or if it's done it all the time, but I know my battery certainly didn't drain this quickly before when idle.
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Yeah I've noticed something causing my cpu to 'wake' more than it should when it should be idle. I've been thinking it might Light Flow, think I'll uninstall it tonight and see how much I lose overnight.
Don't know whether it's been the updates it has been getting or if it's done it all the time, but I know my battery certainly didn't drain this quickly before when idle.
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yeah same thing happens to me, in the battery stats Android OS is the main contributor to drain and the CPU Awake time is always pretty high
interesting I havent suffered much noticeable effect on the battery. I juhst crashes every time i reboot the phone.
I disabled it earlier because I was having problems with it flashing after the notification was gone. Didn't notice any extra strain on battery though, although it could have been there.
At the moment it's 1 day 16 min on battery, with 20% Android OS and 5h 38m awake CPU time, is that high? (the Android OS bit/awake time)
Not noticing any drain with Lightflow... I notice that when an email/text comes in the phone wakes up briefly but whether that's Lightflow or normal I don't know... but the phone is asleep from then until I turn it on, even though the LED is flashing away merrily in the meantime. And I looked at this overnight - so getting an alert at maybe 2 or 3am and then actually checking it at 8am or so. Nothing abnormal between 2am and 8am, and noticed no extra battery drain.
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I disabled it earlier because I was having problems with it flashing after the notification was gone. Didn't notice any extra strain on battery though, although it could have been there.
At the moment it's 1 day 16 min on battery, with 20% Android OS and 5h 38m awake CPU time, is that high? (the Android OS bit/awake time)
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Had this problem but I think I understand how it works now.
It will keep flashing if you have "individually" removed the notifications out of the notifications bar. Removing notifications this way doesn't seem to register in Light Flow but you can solve this by:
(a) running that app
(b) hit the "X" button to clear all notifications in the notifications bar.
Can anyone find a way to see if it really is Light Flow that consumes that much battery? I cannot really tell.
Hi.
Light flow will cause some battery drain, but I try to keep it as little as possible.
You will see a fair amount of time partially awake (not the screen on, but showing as awake in the battery usage) because of the app as every time you have more than one outstanding notification (of different colors) the app has to do a partial phone wake to run the alarm manager that changes the color.
There's a few things that can help this, firstly slowing down the frequency of cycling colors ("Notification - battery", in general settings).
Fast = 2.5 seconds
Medium = 5 seconds
Slow = 10 seconds
Very slow = 20 seconds
The other option is just to show the highest priority notification that's currently outstanding - then you'll just get 1 color (e.g. if you have an e-mail, missed call and sms message all outstanding - if you have priority of 1 set on missed call then only that will display of the 3)
Unless you really need them, all the additional light controls in the general settings menu e.g. button backlight, flash etc should be disabled to keep things minimal.
With the latest 2.7.x releases I found (on a nexus one) that the partial wake is for less than 100th of a second on every cycle change (previous version had got to about 400ths of a second)
As for not clearing the notification, at the moment I've got no hooks into swiping away individual notifications from the notification bar so they will keep flashing.
I'm thinking of adding an extra battery saving option where just the most recent notification type is shown as there wouldn't be the need for partial wakes for that.
The good news is I just got a Galaxy Nexus yesterday and after quite some time got the adb drivers working so I'll be looking into seeing what's possible with ICS soon.
So far I've just made one ICS specific change for the next release which is to remove the nag screen on upgrading about restarting accessibility as it seems google have finally sorted out the accessibility bug that caused the need for a restart!
Cheers for the clarification and help, andrewpmoore. Great app.
The option that makes the LED shows only the most recent notifications will be VERY WELCOME! Look forward to the update
Good Job, glad you finally have the handset! can't wait for the next release!
No issues here. I think it really depends on your settings those. Especially the color cycles.
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Good Job, glad you finally have the handset! can't wait for the next release!
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Don't get too excited about the next release. It'll just be a bug fixes one (and the nag removal for ICS)
If there are any devs on here that can work out a way to pick up on the swipe to remove notifications could they get in touch. I've not found anything useful in the accessibility service so far.
Probably didn't see my question in another thread, but can you add a full RGB colour picker? Seeing as it's an RGB LED I assume this is possible, rather than just having the current, fixed, selection of named colours?
Great job andrewpmoore, will definitely use this as soon as my GN arrives
Don't need to worry about battery drain from Light Flow any more andrewpmoore.
I first tried disabling the app then uninstalling, I still had the same battery drain from Android OS, so my problem lies elsewhere.
I've reinstalled Light Flow now, great app!
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Don't need to worry about battery drain from Light Flow any more andrewpmoore.
I first tried disabling the app then uninstalling, I still had the same battery drain from Android OS, so my problem lies elsewhere.
I've reinstalled Light Flow now, great app!
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That's good to know, thanks.
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jabok said:
Probably didn't see my question in another thread, but can you add a full RGB colour picker? Seeing as it's an RGB LED I assume this is possible, rather than just having the current, fixed, selection of named colours?
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It's something I've had on my todo list for a while. It'd be relativley simple for phones line the Nexus One and Galaxy Nexus, the difficult part is fitting it in with the "direct mode" settings and mapping colors between them.
I'll see what I can do.
Light Flow also caused Sleep of Death on my phone. I've uninstalled and all is well now.
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Light Flow also caused Sleep of Death on my phone. I've uninstalled and all is well now.
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same here.. massive battery drain/phone got hot and she went night night.. had to pull battery. uninstalled
Considering other people are getting the sleep of death without Lightflow it seems a little rash to decide that Lightflow is causing it.
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Considering other people are getting the sleep of death without Lightflow it seems a little rash to decide that Lightflow is causing it.
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Add to that the cases where people are using Lightflow and NEVER had the Sleep of Death, it's fair to say Lightflow is not the (sole) cause. It MAY be behaving badly with some other app I guess... but I've been running it since day 2 (18th) and never had the sleepy death thing.
So I found this one app " Swipify" that lets me keep the watch face on full time. I like it but it drains the battery a bit faster then I would like. Also when charging the watch the round charge progress bar does not advance so I have no idea how charged it is until I take it off the dock. So I un-installed it. I am looking for an app that will let me keep the watch in the dimmed "Ambient mode" full time and then when I lift the watch to look at it, have it to the full watch face mode until I set my arm back down.
Anyone make such a add-on app by chance? :fingers-crossed:
Or should I start learning how to code apps?
Any chance they (moto) will update with such features?
Thanks,
-DK
I'm not sure if such an app exists, but I'm just about 100% sure that Motorola will never add this feature. The current 5.1.1 software version was significantly delayed because they were trying to optimize battery life. I think it's a combination of a small battery and an old, power hungry processor that is the main problem.
I find that since upgrading to 5.1.1 I can go the entire day on one charge in ambient mode but I have to leave the watch sitting flat in order to test it. But by the end of the day I still have 25-25% charge left with it running the entire day in Ambient mode as long as I do not get to many notifications during the day which of course I can control those with no problem.
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I find that since upgrading to 5.1.1 I can go the entire day on one charge in ambient mode but I have to leave the watch sitting flat in order to test it. But by the end of the day I still have 25-25% charge left with it running the entire day in Ambient mode as long as I do not get to many notifications during the day which of course I can control those with no problem.
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Huh? What's the point of having a watch if the only way you can get it to work is to lie it on the desk and not touch it, oh and to disable notifications, aka the only thing that makes the "watch" something more than juts a watch?
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Huh? What's the point of having a watch if the only way you can get it to work is to lie it on the desk and not touch it, oh and to disable notifications, aka the only thing that makes the "watch" something more than juts a watch?
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That is why I am looking for an App similar to Swipify to keep the ambient mode on full time. And I only let it lie flat for a day to test the battery life and it makes it through the day with the screen on full time in ambient mode. So I know the watch is capable of doing what I would want it to use it for.
And I said "as long as I don't get too many notifications", I never said I disabled notifications. I still have those on.
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That is why I am looking for an App similar to Swipify to keep the ambient mode on full time. And I only let it lie flat for a day to test the battery life and it makes it through the day with the screen on full time in ambient mode. So I know the watch is capable of doing what I would want it to use it for.
And I said "as long as I don't get too many notifications", I never said I disabled notifications. I still have those on.
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Gocha. No need to be defensive, sorry for the misunderstanding.
Still seems like you'd always be on the hairy edge of running out of battery in a real-world scenario. Hell, I'm ambient mode off but tilt-to-wake on, and some long days I barely make it to the end of the day. Never had luck with even the fake ambient mode the Moto provides.
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Gocha. No need to be defensive, sorry for the misunderstanding.
Still seems like you'd always be on the hairy edge of running out of battery in a real-world scenario. Hell, I'm ambient mode off but tilt-to-wake on, and some long days I barely make it to the end of the day. Never had luck with even the fake ambient mode the Moto provides.
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All good, sorry to come off as defensive. :good::highfive:
Been using it with tilt-to-wake turned off and I am finding that by the end of the day I still have plenty of juice left.
With Ambient on and tilt-to wake off I find I have about 35-40% left at the end of a 7am - 11pm day. That is with receiving some email and text notifications (maybe 15-20) during the day.
I know everyone has different uses and ideas of how to use their Moto 360 so everyone's setting are going to be different, but what I am after is a always on "dimmed" or "ambient" mode with the option to turn on tilt to wake so I could test the battery life both ways. I would also like to use my 360 for home automation control and I I know with "Autowear" it is possible but from the little testing I have done so far it would kill my battery way to fast so perhaps on a future SW that will be something I will be doing.
Pausing and starting Netflix or HBOgo or Plex from my 360 is working pretty good for me as a start.
Think I will try and contact the owner of the Swipify app and see what he can do for me...... :laugh:
With the latest update LCA44B, when ambient is on and tilt is off, the screen will stay on all the time. However with ambient on and tilt on, it is same as previous behavior, screen will turn off when you put your arm by your side.
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With the latest update LCA44B, when ambient is on and tilt is off, the screen will stay on all the time. However with ambient on and tilt on, it is same as previous behavior, screen will turn off when you put your arm by your side.
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That is very good news! Can not wait to try it out!