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Hi Everyone,
Tell me, why would anyone actually choose an iPhone over a Desire/N1?
As I see it, the only thing an iPhone has over the Desire is the volume of apps, but can you give me a list of what the Desire/N1 has over the iPhone?
Speaking as someone who has had WinMo, Nokias etc. I can honestly say that my iPhone 3GS is the best device I have ever had. User interface is functional and simple and I can find an app for everything - plus the apps are mature. JB adds a new level to it, and provides the customisability that I love to do.
What I don't like about the iPhone is the restrictive nature of it, with the extreme control that Apple has. Ofc i have jailbroken the iPhone but Apple are making it increasingly harder to do this and I fear we are not far away from them making it near impossible to do so (hell you already have a situation with the newest phones having a tethered jb - i.e. they need to re-jb if their phone loses power, or is rebooted).
That being said, and my heart being in Linux land, my next phone will hopefully be the HTC Desire. I love the customisability of Android, the less restrictive nature, and for someone like me, I reckon i'll get more fun out of it.
The Desire's hardware beats a 3GS hand down. Android is getting there but is not as mature (obviously) as the iPhone OS, and nor are its Apps. But they are getting there. The Desire is a good enough handset that in a years time, Android really will be competing with the iPhone and your hardware will still be capable.
My wife will get the iPhone....
because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...
orlandojumpoff said:
because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...
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And that's the discussion I keep having with my mates. With the Desire's hardware and Eclair+Sense, the only real thing that the stock iPhone 3GS has going for it now is the apps. My argument there is that once a developer has perfected their app on/for the iPhone they'll likely(/hopefully) then be seeking the challenge, and the revenue(?), from launching it on the Android Market. The Desire's/N1's/Droid's hardware specs and Eclair's open customizability and capability would then allow them to take it to the next level.
1. Better UI controls. Android has great homescreens but when it comes to app UI controls, it lags behind Android.
2. More and Better casual applications. Many more games. Can be purchased around the world in 70+ countries. Much more free/promotion games compared to Android.
3. Better camera than the camera of most Androids.
A couple of things the Desire has going for it vs the iPhone:
*Camera: 5MP w/ flash vs 3MP w/o flash
*Screen resolution: 800x480 vs 480x320
*Battery: I can't back this up but I'm guessing the AMOLED display will drain less juice than the iPhone's traditional backlit LCD. Also, removable battery is always better than non-removable.
*Multi-tasking vs no multi-tasking
*Non-obstructive notications
*Useful information on homescreen vs just a bunch of icons
*File explorer
*Text reflow in browser
*Hardware buttons!
On Iphone run a Graphic Engine. Android can runs only a java application.
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On Iphone run a Graphic Engine. Android can runs only a java application.
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what? This post makes no sense what so ever.
you mean it has a GPU? And are you implying that android phones do not have one?
Maybe you should read up on programming for android:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
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Tell me, why would anyone actually choose an iPhone over a Desire/N1?
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I went from Nexus One to iPhone 3G S because of iPhone has much better quality apps. Apps make sense as they are thoughtfully designed and hence are easy to use unlike some Android applications which have every feature under the sun but are unintuitive. A good example of this is Astrid.
The good news is 2Do developer have confirmed they are working on 2Do port for Android. Then you will all understand what I am trying to say.
Also, iPhone has much much better games then Android.
raven2000 said:
I went from Nexus One to iPhone 3G S because of iPhone has much better quality apps. Apps make sense as they are thoughtfully designed and hence are easy to use unlike some Android applications which have every feature under the sun but are unintuitive. A good example of this is Astrid.
The good news is 2Do developer have confirmed they are working on 2Do port for Android. Then you will all understand what I am trying to say.
Also, iPhone has much much better games then Android.
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I just find the iphone very limited, I've had the 3GS for a month and I'm terribly bored of it. The only reason I still use it over my old touch pro is because it's faster for web browsing.
Android sounds like the kind of OS I want, very customizable very flexable.
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because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...
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Exactly I love the apps and games I got on my Ipod touch but I wouldn't buy an Iphone cause I dont like that Att crappy service.
All hardware aside, you have to approach this as a standard customer. Said customer buys into what marketing sells; buys into all the hype generated around the fanboys spread across the internet; buys what they are told to buy.
Because of the market saturation, apps developed for the iphonepods will be more cared for and mature a lot faster. Facebook is a prime example of this. If you don't use facebook then this example is lost on you The iphone has a fantastic fbook app that keeps you in the app and offers almost all the same functionality as you would find in a desktop browser; almost. Fbook on android however...not even close. This is a deal breaker for those who live and die with fbook.
So you have a bajillion apps being sold every second in apple's app store generating a ****ton of revenue for all involved giving people reason to create solid apps. There is some pretty solid DRM involved (though not unbreakable ) preventing app piracy which leaves the devs with a peace of mind.
Now take the android world. While android is found on more devices now than I could possibly think of, the average user would never know it. There is no advertising (well nothing compared to the viral campaigning apple has successfully pulled off), no customer draw...android is, for the most part, word of mouth.
So with the above in mind, the numbers just are not there for developers to devote a ton of time into making apps comparable to what you will find on the iphone...not yet anyways.
App protection is another biggie. So with both platforms you require the device to be unlocked/rooted in order to get around this. With the android platform it's a bit easier; once you have root, you have free apps. With the iphone it's a bit trickier but still very doable; one layer beyond simply rooting (jailbreaking). Don't kid yourself if you think devs are not aware of this.
Thankfully, the majority of users on both platforms don't use their powers for evil or we would see a serious drop in apps I bet.
So why would anyone choose an iphone? Apps and itunes.
Apps are a big deal; they are a means to keep in touch with friends and family, they are a means to get unlost, to get lost, to waste time, to save time...the better the app, the more efficient you can do all of these tasks.
People want to carry their music with them. Love it or hate it, itunes is here to stay and a ton of people have fully entrusted their music to itunes. an iphone means everything in itunes is easily synced.
Personally, I went from dumbphones to winmo (moto Q on verizon) to the g1 (t-mobile) and never returned to winmo. I switched to att from tmo and without really thinking about it, I gave my g1 to a friend in favour of an iphone3g. I should have just kept my g1 on edge on att...now while still on att, I am happily back to android with my nexus one. For me, everything stated above carries zero weight in value compared to the freedom I have with my n1.
...thursday rants are fun
Simply because Average Joe (or Jane for my part) doesn't read XDA
I think the more appropriate question is "Why would anyone choose the iPhone?".
Consider this scenario:
You're playing a casual game and listening to your music at the same time. You want to change to another playlist. You can't even do that without completely exiting your game.
I can't fathom using a supposedly smart device that can't even handle that simple of a multi-task.
I think the reason why iphone is still a big winner is only because of the apps and games.
Do u guys think good apps make a good OS?
Why Windows is still now the most popular OS?
Daemos said:
I just find the iphone very limited, I've had the 3GS for a month and I'm terribly bored of it. The only reason I still use it over my old touch pro is because it's faster for web browsing.
Android sounds like the kind of OS I want, very customizable very flexable.
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I have had a variety of smartphones from Blackberrys, to Android. My android phones are by far the best ones. I have up my iphone and ordered the G1 for the original release date. Even though at that time it was not on the same level as the Iphone it opened the door for us to have phones like the Nexus One, Desire, Legend, Moto Droid...ect.....tons of phones that give us choices. My Nexus one out the box was amazing, rooting the thing made it even more ridiculous.
As many of you have said previously, the only thing that I can see is better on iPhone than on Desire / Nexus is the Games, so I do not understand yet why you pay so much more if you buy this just for games? why not buy an iPod if you want the games/mp3.
Because its the trendy thing to buy.
I brought an ipod touch when they first came out. I was sick of it within a day. The apps are pretty well junk or gimmicks, I brought a ton of them never use them.
Games yeah right, maybe sitting in the car waiting for someone but really there crap and you are better off just getting on the net and reading XDA
There also to big to put in your pocket and use as an mp3 player.
But good on apple for marketing to the sheep so well and there about to do it again with the ipad!
Hi ,
I had HTC HD , and now i am on my way to buy a new Phone.
I wont buy 3GS , because in 3 months we will have a new Iphone , so that will be sucky sucky. on the other hand - if i pay so much for a phone i want to be able to play on it , and i saw some tests , showing Iphone has much more FPS in games.
is it a GPU thing ? if so , why would i buy the Desire.
currently this is the only thing -
if Desire had good games with good quality 3D and nice FPS . no reason to even consider 3GS or any iPhone .
Hardware (processor speed) comparisons are simply "wrong". Numbers on paper mean nothing because the OS software are not the same. Don't know why people don't get this...
That video that idandush referred is a good example.
I have been looking to replace my iPhone 32GB 3GS with a Desire but the more I read about the Desire on this and other forums the more it looks like a bad idea due to some very iffy limitations / flaws / bugs.
So has any one made this particular leap and if so how do you find the Desire compares to the iPhone and will I find I can be disappointed for a lot less than £400!
All comments welcome.
Cheers
S
Nah...it's rubbish. Don't bother...
But really...what did you think you would read in a forum? Here's one for you, go check out the iPhone help and support forum and come let me know how many postal are morning but praise and support.
Which particular "limitations" are putting you off, and if you've invested money on apps and media, why don't you just wait in the 4th iPhone?
I have just come from the HTC HD2 (very popular/top of the range etc) to the HTC Desire and must say the Desire is 1000x better.
Not one flaw at all, I come to this website as a matter of habbit as I actually have no issues whatsoever, in fact is surprises me how many problems people here are experiencing.
10/10 from me, I can see why this has been voted the number one phone in the world.\
I agree though if you can wait, it is very likely that the new iPhone will be the No.1 phone on the market, again.
can't compare most forums with one as xda which is a tad more technical and nitpicking. Regarding limitations you surely have a lot less than the iPhone. at the moment I can't say I find any major flaws and very few minor ones
My wife is having Iphone and this is my first android phone. I had more than 10 different WM phones. Never wanted to have anything else. Now I have Desire, and to be honest this phone is 10 light years ahead of any wm phone.
Closest thing to it is Iphone, but number of apps available for Desire is amazing.
Biggest selling point is of course social network integration, similar to Palm's Pre phone.
Also from me 10/10
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The Desire is the best phone I've owned (comparing it to the Nokia E61, HTC TyTN, HTC Touch HD, Samsung Omnia i900, Samsung Omnia HD i8910, SE Satio and some others I've forgotten).
The fact that you see so many comments here complaining about this and that is evidence to the fact that this phone has experienced massive sales and there's a good mix of experienced and unexperienced smartphone (and Android) users. It also means that people are being honest about their experiences by not sticking their heads in the sand, and the critical approach will lead to improvements, both from HTC and from the user community.
Look at the pace of posts here, too. Compare it with the pace in the X10 section. The sheer activity here is in itself one of the huge advantages of the phone.
For me, the biggest upsides of the Desire are the speed and Sense. The only things I'm reserving judgement for is the quality of the photos (after all, I'm coming from the Samsung i8910 with an excellent camera) and the lack of call recording (which is an Android 2.1 issue not limited to the Desire, but also hopefully something that will be sorted either in future Android versions or beforehand). Otherwise, this thing is the closest I've ever seen to an all-around excellent smartphone.
I have owned tens of devices, a lot of htc, nokia, blackberry, motorola (including milestone), couldn't bear to be an iphone owner but the Desire is pretty awesome. Best phone i've had to date bar none.
Quist said:
The Desire is the best phone I've owned (comparing it to the Nokia E61, HTC TyTN, HTC Touch HD, Samsung Omnia i900, Samsung Omnia HD i8910, SE Satio and some others I've forgotten).
The fact that you see so many comments here complaining about this and that is evidence to the fact that this phone has experienced massive sales and there's a good mix of experienced and unexperienced smartphone (and Android) users. It also means that people are being honest about their experiences by not sticking their heads in the sand, and the critical approach will lead to improvements, both from HTC and from the user community.
Look at the pace of posts here, too. Compare it with the pace in the X10 section. The sheer activity here is in itself one of the huge advantages of the phone.
For me, the biggest upsides of the Desire are the speed and Sense. The only things I'm reserving judgement for is the quality of the photos (after all, I'm coming from the Samsung i8910 with an excellent camera) and the lack of call recording (which is an Android 2.1 issue not limited to the Desire, but also hopefully something that will be sorted either in future Android versions or beforehand). Otherwise, this thing is the closest I've ever seen to an all-around excellent smartphone.
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This very informative reply has defiently made me have the desire next.
After watching all the comparason vids on YouTube, ie - HD2 vs htc desire, and others.
Reading all the tech specs on both devices, Reading all the topics on the subforums here and over on the HD2 threads.
I can now see the desire is a very cool piece of kit.
I look forward to owning one.
I think it is excellent
I have my desire for 3 days now and it is excellent however...... mine came on Orange contract and it was crippled with Orange junk from the start. After a complete weekend of fiddling about and altering settings I still couldn't get onto my wifi router. Google Talk was missing and other Orange imposed glitched. I have now installed a different unbranded rom (details elsewhere in this forum) and everything is working exeptionally well, smooth, fast, brilliant.
No stylus required and no more little X's to click.
Thanks guys,
I've bitten the bullet and ordered it today seeing as it's payday.
Will be back for more info soon no doubt!
Thanks
S
I have also iPhone 3GS, and what I can say is generally Desire is better than iPhone 3GS, at least for me.
iPhone is still better for multimedia player, mostly due to the quality of the speaker. Also, in term of stability, iPhone is a little bit better than Desire with stock ROM. But for other things, I prefer Desire, and I'll be patiently waiting for the "better" ROM for this pretty thing.
btw... if you came from 3GS, you might be a little disappointed with Desire's speaker quality.
You have understand that most people come to the forum and post are usually the one that has the problem. The one that has no problem using the device doesn't even bother coming on.
Heya, I own and still own a iphone 3GS 32GB.
I've had the Desire for around 2 weeks now.
I have been waying up which device I should keep as they are both great devices.
In terms of speed, I can't really see much difference between the 3GS and Desire. Maybe the Desire is slightly faster.
The screen on the Desire however, is way better than the 3GS. The black on the Desire is real black. If you compare the colours from Desire to 3GS the Desire will win every time.
The interface on the Desire wins hands down compared to the 3GS. Iphone interface is plain boring now.
It's the media player quality where I am stuck. On my iphone, every single song has album art (1400+ songs) yet on the Desire only around 60% of tracks have album art. I know how to fix it but it's a painstaking task which I don't really have the time to do..
I also wish the Desire would list the Alphabet in each list in the media player so you can just click on a letter rather than having to first scroll a little bit and then touch the slider.
The Desire sound quality is good providing you are using decent headphones. If it was louder, I'm sure it could complete with headphones to the iphone. However the loud speaker is crap. Not much more can said about that. That isn't a deal breaker for me.
Apps, face it apple has heaps and heaps (alot are crap). But for me, volume isn't the issue. It's quality. I'm sure though give it time and the apps on the android market will get better so this isn't a huge issue either.
I'm going to wait until I can re-jail break my iphone and until the Desire is 'rooted' so I can can get the best out of both devices and then make a decision.
For album art - try the '3' music player from the market.. its pretty neat and will cycle through your albums and download album art for them..
very handy feature.. i dont think it embeds the art in the ID3 tags.. but it displays the art fine..
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Heya, I own and still own a iphone 3GS 32GB.
I've had the Desire for around 2 weeks now.
I have been waying up which device I should keep as they are both great devices.
In terms of speed, I can't really see much difference between the 3GS and Desire. Maybe the Desire is slightly faster.
The screen on the Desire however, is way better than the 3GS. The black on the Desire is real black. If you compare the colours from Desire to 3GS the Desire will win every time.
The interface on the Desire wins hands down compared to the 3GS. Iphone interface is plain boring now.
It's the media player quality where I am stuck. On my iphone, every single song has album art (1400+ songs) yet on the Desire only around 60% if tracks have album art. I know how to fix it but it's a painstaking task which I don't really have the time to do..
I also wish the Desire would list the Alphabet in each list in the media player so you can just click on a letter rather than having to first scroll a little bit and then touch the slider.
The Desire sound quality is good providing you are using decent headphones. If it was louder, I'm sure it could complete with headphones to the iphone. However the loud speaker is crap. Not much more can said about that. That isn't a deal breaker for me.
Apps, face it apple has heaps and heaps (alot are crap). But for me, volume isn't the issue. It's quality. I'm sure though give it time and the apps on the android market will get better so this isn't a huge issue either.
I'm going to wait until I can re-jail break my iphone and until the Desire is 'rooted' so I can can get the best out of both devices and then make a decision.
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is it then?
loads of debate knocking around but who best to ask, owners!
about to run out of contract with t-mobile uk
choice is 3gs or desire
How are we supposed to tell you what is better for you??
(allthough, if you do rely on others to tell you what is better for you, you might be better of with the iphone )
Yes it is. No need for any further debate.
just i though theres maybe ex iphone fanboys in here, thats all,
why would you say that then
Ex iPhone users are plenty.
The software Android is a lot better than iPhone OS. No stupid restrictions, no censorship. Lots of flexibility, customization options and features the iPhone will never have, like Flash. You can have widgets on your home screen that can give you all sorts of information, instead of just a bunch of stupid icons and much more.
Hardware-wise the 3GS is completely outdated. The Desire has a 1GHz processor vs. 600MHz in the iPhone. A 5 megapixel camera with flash vs. 3 without flash in the iPhone. A 3.7" high-resolution, beautiful AMOLED screen vs a 3.5", low-resolution (=fuzzy, pixelated) standard LCD screen. And so on...
It's really hard to find *anything* the iPhone is better at. The Desire totally owns it. And even the next iPhone will be just a copy of the Desire - that's how you see the Desire is much better.
This being a Desire forum, it is unlikely that you'll get too many objective views on the subject, but from my personal perspective, I wouldn't get an iPhone, because I do not like the ecosystem that Apple has built around the device - if I buy a phone, I want to feel that I own it, not lease it from Apple.
Regardless of that, I feel that the Desire suits my needs far better than an iPhone would, though the iPhone itself is a fine device.
Putting all that to one side for the moment, if I was in the market for an iPhone, given that the next iPhone is likely to be released in the next few months, I wouldn't get a 3GS now anyway because it will likely be superceded before the summer is out.
FWIW, I'm not anti-Apple - I've got an iMac, a Macbook, and I bought my wife an iPod Touch.
Regards,
Dave
Yeah definitely try them to see which is better for your needs
But personally I think the phones you should be deciding between are the
iPhone 4G or Nexus One
Apple will show the new iPhone at WWDC (7-11 July)
And the Nexus One beats the Desire in terms of software.
But really, don't let people here decide for you, choose for yourself!
Yes it is, expect for the 3gs music, everything else is better
I used to be a 3GS owner and love my Desire and find it loads better! As others have said shame the music player isn't as good. But everything else is
As others have said shame the music player isn't as good.
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You know what's great about Android? You can just go to the Market and download another music player.
Try that on an iPhone.
I use MixZing and find it better than the stock player and the iPod app.
I have never gone android and from the specs it is going to be a great phone. Dear members will I be disappointed if I get rid of my leo and go for it? What is the main differences between windows pc and android ? Or would you rather I wait for windows 7 I am used to. But I am greatly interested!
Not much of an answer, but I'm definitely looking at replacing my HD2/Leo with a Desire HD. It really is the phone I've been waiting for HTC to come out with.
For me its Android over anything,
The main difference is that android if very customizable and all open source, you wont be disappointed if you ditch your Leo for this phone, specs wise its amazing and now that is running new HTC sence UI. I think that you will be very happy with Android.
Any other question, feel free to PM me or anything.
I think I will be replacing my HD2 with this. Been running Android on my HD2 for a few days, and I love it. Given that the Desire HD is the same size, and better hardware than the HD2, I think it's a winner!
I as well have The HD2 with the android running and also helped 2 other peple get their HD2's setup with android. I love it over windows. The windows pretty customizable to a certain point and I do like it too but like is not the word for the android stuff. I had the G1 and it took a cyanogen beating and kept on ticking. And then I went to the HD2 and as soon as I saw roms for it Ii went to town on it but I slammed on the brakes with the froyo rom from Darkstone and Its whats running right now. So to say Im looking forward to this Desire Phone is an understatement. Im real excited WOO!
Load up Android on your HD2 and take it for a test drive. They have a bunch of choices in the HD2 forum so you can get a feel for it to see if you like it.
If wealthy, buy Desire HD.
If not so well off, try Android on HD2, if it you like it and want to pay for extra hardware on Desire HD you can wait until no longer brand new tech, and price drops a little.
If not cash rich, wait for Desire HD rom to be ported onto HD2 to replace WinMo.
All you lose is extra 3 megs on camera (not a big deal)
Extra internal memory (can do without)
Slightly faster cpu.
Movie playback quality?
The Desire HD is great but nothing special above the HD2..I mean sure it's primary Os is Android but that's all you get. The Hd2 runs Android,Wm and Ubuntu,if that's not cool enough then i dnt knw wat is. IMO the HD2 will most likely become the phone of legends, something that fathers tell their kids about wen their not busy admiring its sheer brilliance,the one that broke all the rules *And yes i'm aware of the D'HD specs,which r tempting but not worth sacrificing the Hd2*
This is just the beginning teaser for Android superphone HTC & GSM. I see the HD2, EVO & D'HD pretty much being the same phone, different shell and different OS. In that light the format is a year old.
To quote them, HTC was/is brilliantly and quietly deliberate in having the Android-GSM masses salivate from across fences they could not or would not cross. It's almost classic Apple (and believe me, I hate both Apple and admitting it).
When the HD2 released, and lets be honest, gimped with WinMo, there was a secret vault deep in the bowels of HTC with a killer phone that could pretty much end the consumer refresh cycle for 3+yrs.
Just look at the G1. One of the secret beauties of Android is that in the right circumstances, you can stretch a platform way beyond it's intended life. An Android HD2/GSM EVO would have been such a beast.
They didn't release it because it was technically not viable, lol. No. Because doing so would have been an early check mate.
Yes the competition would either have been scorched in such a scenario or, heaven forbid, cornered into a cold war where they might actually have delivered real value versus their stock and trade hype.
At the same time though, HTC would have cannibalized their entire line-up/sales inbetween. Plus there was the issue of giving an allowance for symbiosis between the hardware, the market and the Android platform to come to fruition.
Now we have the D'HD, why? Because the other OEM's, Gingerbread, dual cores and GPU's are on the horizon.
The next 3-9 months will be beautiful.
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I like the optimism and brand patriotism in that post. But unfortunately due to the amount of sheep who see the iPhone as the be-all and end-all of mobile technology, the platform if used to it's full potential still wouldn't have been able to take away a decent enough chunk of the iPhone sales.
The main reason is marketing. Apple have an army of marketing geniuses, with a bank balance to replace the ocean with. Coupled with the "elitist" angle that apple have, people have, do, and will continue to buy them because they don't know any better. If anyone saw the HTC Evo vs iPhone 4 video, you'll know what I mean - because it's the unfortunate truth.
When the HD2 came out, HTC were still relatively unheard of in the grand scheme of things. The Desire is what bought them into the open (at least in the UK anyway, despite a good marketing effort with the Hero).
The sad reality of it all, is that HTC could cram a 2GHz dual-core CPU, 3D screen, 2GB RAM, 64GB high-speed flash and a 720p display, all running on Honeycomb into a phone the size of an HD Mini, and people would still go for the Apple phone because it's Apple.
If the original iPhone was released today - I still reckon it would outsell most other smartphones in the public sector.
I still chuckle to myself when the iPhone came out without MMS, and then Apple did something revolutionary and put MMS into a software update, and the world was alight with joy and praise!
Yet I'd had MMS on my SonyEricsson T68i a clear 6 years prior!
I had HD2...i sold it 2 month ago waiting for something like Desire HD...Now I'm waiting with my dummy in a pocket
Numbers are numbers. DHD is better in CPU,GPU,ROM,RAM,Camera,Video. OS is relative...depends who likes what. I prefer Android against WM 6.5... But, i would be almost perfect if they put SLCD and Aderno 220 in him...then there would be nothing better...but word "better" is relative...
I still have my HD2 (and HD) and considered porting it to Android but in the end I opted to keep it running WM and popped for the Galaxy S.
The Galaxy S is a great phone with some beautiful features but I do miss my HTC branded phone.
At the time I considered the Desire but needed something slightly bigger and with more features and seeing as the Evo didn't come to the UK, as said instead I chose the Samsung.
Now the Desire HD is coming I've been looking close as to what it may give me over the Galaxy S.
Apart from it's slightly larger screen I can't find anything that will draw me away and that worries me.
As said, I miss HTC Hardware and Sense. The new line of Sense looks better but is it enough.........
I am currently using a HD2, and well, after 10 months of usage, WM6.5 is practically crap: Many essential softwares which are needed were not preinstalled; even messaging application was crap... Internet browser was as slow, most importantly no flash... Then here comes the Android running on SD card... But still sucks big time, although the developers really put a lot of effort in it, but the lag, freezes, and incomplete applications are all making me feel more and more disappointed... Until the 15th of September 2010, when HTC revealed both DHD and Desire Z, my hope was relighted... A proper Android OS on a 4.3" screen... This is what I needed for long... The first thing I did was to preorder it immediately without even hesitating... From here I believe many can see how much hope i gave up on HD2... The disappointment was utter... Well, now I am just counting down everyday to my DHD reaching me... 20 more days to go~
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I am currently using a HD2, and well, after 10 months of usage, WM6.5 is practically crap: Many essential softwares which are needed were not preinstalled; even messaging application was crap... Internet browser was as slow, most importantly no flash... Then here comes the Android running on SD card... But still sucks big time, although the developers really put a lot of effort in it, but the lag, freezes, and incomplete applications are all making me feel more and more disappointed... Until the 15th of September 2010, when HTC revealed both DHD and Desire Z, my hope was relighted... A proper Android OS on a 4.3" screen... This is what I needed for long... The first thing I did was to preorder it immediately without even hesitating... From here I believe many can see how much hope i gave up on HD2... The disappointment was utter... Well, now I am just counting down everyday to my DHD reaching me... 20 more days to go~
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i think the devices with dualcore that will be releasing in the next few monthes make me keep my hd2 for now , desire hd is not a big improvement to upgrade to it
Having neither the HD2 or the Desire HD and wanting a slice of the Android pie having whet my appetite with a Desire, what would you suggest?
I can get an HD2 for around £220 - £250 from eBay and run with Android courtesy of the devs, or I can fork out £470 on a native Android handset that does not seem to offer a great deal (for my use at least) over the HD2.
decisions, decisions ...
That's a toughy which only you can answer.....
Depends on how much you value some of the added benefits you can get with the dedicated Android.
I love my photography and although I have several cameras I still like to get the best out of whatever hardware is available.... That's one of the reasons I went for the Galaxy S over the Desire and now with the HD coming out.... well I'm still drawn to the Galaxy S.
Beards said:
That's a toughy which only you can answer.....
Depends on how much you value some of the added benefits you can get with the dedicated Android.
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Frankly I'm not sure what I would lose by going the HD2 route?
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I love my photography and although I have several cameras I still like to get the best out of whatever hardware is available....
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Likewise but having been spoiled by Nokia I have reached the conclusion that anyone who is serious about using their phone for halfway decent shots when on the go should steer well clear of HTC!
Trouble is, the competition might have the hardware but the operating system is very dated. I want the bells and whistles Android has to offer but the hardware is lacking on this platform.
Android ported to HD2 will never be so smooth and good as Andoid on his original device. There will always be some little bugs and lags...and you'll never experience a true Android experiance... Better choose regular Desire than HD2 with Android... HD2 is made for WM
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Likewise but having been spoiled by Nokia I have reached the conclusion that anyone who is serious about using their phone for halfway decent shots when on the go should steer well clear of HTC!
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Agreed... That was one of the main reasons why I went for the Galaxy S over the Desire. The GS takes and shoots simply outstanding shots & video.
Maybe its just me but if you really want good pictures.....invest in a camera: s
The camera isn't fantastic but its decent and that's good enough the other features make up for it imo.
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I am an owner of DHD, and before I used iPhone 3g which made me mad about speed.
But right now I am not so satisfied with DHD about Camera, android apps, GPS is not working actually, it's a little big and the battery is bad.
I was thinking of exchanging my DHD with 3gs, but I really love Android. I believe without apps Android is much better than iOS. But when the apps are involved, iOS is much better.
I want people to put their prejudgements aside and tell me why they prefer DHD or 3gs, and what I would miss if I change or not.
I really like photography, so camera and instagram would effect my choice. Right now I tried or still trying to use streamzoo, molome, mytubo, picplz etc. And none of them are any good I can say.
Thank you in advance.
If you already tested both, I think you can decide for yourself.
Do you prefer to drive or to be driven?
This has been covered too many times too around here.
And you should try harder finding good android apps too. They exist and there are many of them.
Lazy people usually go for the iPhone.
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If you already tested both, I think you can decide for yourself.
Do you prefer to drive or to be driven?
This has been covered too many times too around here.
And you should try harder finding good android apps too. They exist and there are many of them.
Lazy people usually go for the iPhone.
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is there a facebook feature on here? i wanna click like.
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joooe said:
If you already tested both, I think you can decide for yourself.
Do you prefer to drive or to be driven?
This has been covered too many times too around here.
And you should try harder finding good android apps too. They exist and there are many of them.
Lazy people usually go for the iPhone.
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I believe I am not a "lazy" person when it comes to mobile apps, believe me I spent my days on android market or websites for that. I downloaded maybe all the apps there is for photography.
And I had 3g, not 3gs. I heard it's really fast. In fact as fast as 4. And what I wonder is the camera too.
And while I search or think, I may miss some aspects. That's why I am asking people's comparison between two of them.
If you're into photography you should read an excellent post around here, if you haven't read it yet. The results are amazing!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230&highlight=camera
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Oh, and if you can try Camera ZOOM Fx and ProCapture, if you haven't yet.
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If you're into photography you should read an excellent post around here, if you haven't read it yet. The results are amazing!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230&highlight=camera
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Oh, and if you can try Camera ZOOM Fx and ProCapture, if you haven't yet.
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The thing is, I really don't want to try so much on a mobile phone camera. I carry my DSLR and get focused on it when I want that. From mobile camera, I expect just a good lense (doesn't need 10mp, 5 or 6 is enough actually) and good colours. And of course a good quality, but not by having to try for it. That's the thing I am tired about Android. I always have to spare time for it to be the way I want. And I am no developer or not a time-free man either.
But absolutely thanks for the link, it's a great guide.
I tried Zoom FX, not ProCapture. I liked Camera 360 better I guess. But I will give another go
Thanks again.
I understand your point.
But you just can't have a device that fulfills all your needs and tastes. In the iphone you get a better camera, but you'll loose a lot of other features and vice-versa.
And, really, you can't expect much from a phone camera, either from the iphone or any other phone. I don't.
Android is a highly customizable OS, and for the great majority of us, that's the best thing about it.
I probably flash a ROM per week. lol
Sometimes, the same version I had before. Just for fun.
But it's much easier to have Android do all the things you want, the way you want, than iOS.
The hardware side of the thing is just another story.
But you do get freedom of choice when it comes to Android devices.
In Zeitgeist it was said "if they did a product which you would have all your needs and use it for a long time, they couldn't sell the new one. So they will keep giving you the crap" Not exactly like that but the main point was sth like that. So we shouldn't expect to be satisfied totally
Oh lord easy choice desire hd every time!
Moved from 3GS to DHD
I have used 3GS before, moved to DHD almost a year ago
It is partly true that apps generally run better under iOS, with same app, in general iOS version will have less bugs. But, by switching from DHD to 3GS, you will lose so much: speed, widgets, screen size, camera pixels, etc.
Two and half years ago, when I first got 3GS, I was amazed by how fantastic iPhone was. Now I realize iPhone is mostly for people who are not into technologies or do not care how the phone works. With Android, you have more control, more options. Every phone has its flaws, but I feel DHD has the least of all.
Now my 3GS is using by my technologically illiterate friend and it is running on iOS 4, because some user reported that iOS5 will slow the phone down.
Go for free
I don't find any part of iPhone 3gs can get over DHD. Currently I am using iPhone4 and DHD and I found that DHD is still the best. iPhone 3gs have only HVGA screen resolution(320 x 480) and cpu speed is just only 600Mhz. The amount of memory just only 256Mb and the Camera is just only 3.2 megapixel. None replaceable battery. DHD have everything much better than the iPhone 3gs. The screen resolution(480 x 800) with 16m color. 1Ghz cpu speed with Adreno 205 gpu so you don't feel stuck while playing game. 768Mb of ram and 1.5Gb of storage with 32Gb of extend memory. Camera 8 megapixel with HD video recording(720p). HTC sense make your phone nicer and also you can access to htcsense.com to remote your phone. Android 2.2 with upgradeable to 2.3. Many app and game in Market place. Replaceable battery.
Finally, I found that DHD is still the best phone. Anyway, you should happy with what you choose. I just tell you what I know from these both phones. Be on your own
Basically you can't compare DHD with iPhone. DHD is far superior in all aspects. Have you tried watching a movie on iPhone? You need to convert and transfer to the iPhone using iTunes. Try that on DHD, just copy the movie (any format) using DHD as a usb drive and whatch it using moboplayer or any player. No need to convert.
That was just an example.
r u &^*#[email protected]#$#@@$% kiddding me
you don't compare the DHD with 3Gs
you compare it with iphone4 and it wipes the floor with it in lots of areas
the CPU, Camera (stills), RAM and GPU are better then iphone4, unibody construction is better then glass and all the pluses and connectivity plus of android
the only thing the iphone4 can beat it with is the retina display but on a tiny screen, the iOS advantages, HD video recording and front cam
3gs what the hell....who ever exchanging his 3Gs with your DHD is getting the better end of the deal
as for the complaints of OP, all your complaints are solved in this forum, to the problem is how you are using it, and if you couldn't figure those out on your own then you are better off with any iPhone
android phones will always be less user friendly but a lot more powerful then iOS, you have to root! my phone battery lasts 24 hours with good amount of usage on 1.38GHZ overclock
if you want the phone maker to take your hand in every baby step then IPHONE AND ONLY IPHONE
as for photography check my thread for pete sake!!!
Desire HD Camera guide - all issues resolved
you can clearly see how it beats the camera of iphone 4 in terms of still shots, if you like photography you should know how to take a good one not expect the phone to do it for you
the latest 3D console quality games like shadowgun, riptide GP, sprinkle, dead space, sleepy jack, blood and glory and wind up knight are all running beautifully on the DHD, and i honestly say i never enjoyed games this much on mobile before those (most touch games are piece of *^&# as any true gamer) im pleased they run so well when i expected my DHD to be outdated
the latest leaked firmware with sense 3 is a tour de force
sorry i couldn't even make myself compare it to the specs with 3Gs i replaced my 3Gs with classic desire two years ago....!!!! and the classic desire wawed me at that time and then the DHD was my choice instead of iphone4 and after one year of usage i can tell the DHD is a beast and i wouldn't even compare it to iphone4 i have played and used tons of them in the office and the iphone4 ended up the subject of most my jokes
sigh....i give up with u people
You'll definitely be disappointed with the camera & the screen of the 3gs copared to the DHD.
For speed and battery, go with MIUI or runnymade roms.
Put it this way your on a field....the DHd users are the shepards the iPhone users are the sheep being told what to follow and like. The one thing I do like about 4s is siri...the end. The iPhone range is overated, very expensive...and bollocks lol
But in all fairness its what you like and if you like them who cares what anyone thinks lol I had the desire...now desire hd and will stay with HTC and android for a fair while
My choice
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The camera in DHD is much better then in iPhone 3GS. But well even though the camera is very good in the DHD I still prefer a compact camera because it will take still better pictures.
But the DHD takes very good pictures to, so its handy for second camera or just to take snapshots. But I like to use the DHD to film in 720p, that is something my compact camera can do to, but my DHD seems to handle it fine to.
Oh and yes going to an iPhone from a DHD would in any case be a downgrade, because iphone has less features and possibilities then a DHD and its screen size is just 3.5inch, the DHD has 4.3inch.
Even then iPhone 4S is for me considered a downgrade, because it does not have much more then iPhone 4 and the cpu in our DHD can be quite high overclocked. But wethe story about that iPhone owners are cheaps is true, because where I work many people choose iPhone, but that just because they follow others and they fall for Apple's trap, Apple hypes there products very much, but in fact its no so special and an average high end Android smartphone is much better and also costs you less money.
Also HTC provides 2 year warranty, where as Apple just 1, so if you have a iPhone and sometimes breaks after 1 year then you need pay it yourself ( EU Law states that 2 years warranty should be given, but Apple will not do that ) and an insurance for a phone I never see the need for.
And you just plain stupid if you are careless with your smartphone. But many people in fact fraud which such insurance, just drop it and they get a new iPhone.
haha i would give anything to see your expression when you will take your first photo with 3Gs and double that when you check it on your PC
the 3Megapixels camera on 3Gs is a pure joke, video recording a mess too, and no flash
this thread is a disaster
Everyone posting here is pretty much spot on.
For the hardware side.
Camera, cpu, ram, acceleration, screen, and all of that is much better on the DHD
However, iOS is far superiour when it comes to apps and app integration, as I can tell you miss from your iPhone.
I also find iOS to be much more stable. I don't overclock too high and rarely run any apps that require much resources, yet phone crashes and restarts are pretty common across the board (I've noticed especially in Sense 3.0 and MIUI roms).
I upgraded from my 3GS back last April and definitely miss my iPhone, so I feel for you.
Don't go down to a 3GS, try for an iPhone 4, otherwise you would definitely be getting the poor end of the deal since the 3GS is now two generations behind.
funny i had both 3G and 3Gs and now i never looked back, i don't miss the software like you say, instead i remember hating every second of it
i hated the locked bluetooth, lack of usb access and the obligation to sync from itunes, i hated how the camera had no controls, how the sim card was locked and how most apps and games were non sense
and when i attempted to hack it, i hated every black screen and boot lock and inability to recover
and now i went through a classic desire, i have both DHD and nandroid HD2, its funny i don't have those crashes you speak of on the other hand iphones do crash too
i don't download non sense app & widgets form the market
im running sense 3.0 modded ARHD 6.1.1 never had a single crash @ 1.38ghz above that clock i had the phone turn off twice, so i knew its limits is 1.38ghz, i never UV
i had this beast for a year now, never failed me
since when did iphone 3gs got a better camera than DHD?