Win7 RUNNING FROM usb flashdrive - Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking

not sure this the right forum for this, but putting this out there.
it would be awesome if i could fully install windows 7 ultimate (x86) onto a bootable usb flash drive.
Any ideas on this? i may need to be able to duplicate whatever solution there is 20 times (fellow students NEED an answer to this, another computer is not an option)
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this isnt really something that can be easily done. Windows relies and uses drivers that are more specific to devices. Windows also uses so much information that is captured in the registry. Linux can get away because it uses a more "generic" setup. others may want to chime in if they know more.
I was able to find this:
http://faelmar-tanada.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!73A0272B9E18B517!173.entry

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Ran into 2 must have apps IMO anyway...

1) PowerMax: I've been searching for a good battery saver app and I've tried all of the ones I could find and just wasn't happy with their claims and performance. I stumbled upon PowerMax, tried it out with its full feature version for a 7 day trial. I was amazed at how great this app works. It's a simple one click program that you use when you shut your phone off. I use every time I shut off my phone. It shuts everything it can down but you can receive calls, texts, alarms, tweets etc. When you turn your phone on it restores all your settings back to what you had and if you look at your battery level, I use a numbered on in the status bar so I can see the exact number, you should have lost very little and I mean very little battery level. My Epic on Froyo was horrible but with this app when not using the phone the battery level stays pretty much close to what it was when you shut it off. Overnight you also keep a great amount of your charge if you don't plug it in.
2) AirDroid: First I only have working Mac's and one dead PC so not only can't I root my phone I always have trouble trying to get my computer to see my phone so I can do backups of my files. This is a new app, I was actually the first one to download it, its that new. No need for your cable. Just your phone on the same network as your computer. Start the app it gives you an IP address and password. You launch a web browser on your computer and you have a nice graphical interface of what's on your phone. The speeds are nice. You can upload (Import), download (Export), delete, back up even your system files as well as all your apps on the phone and SD card. Photos, music etc. Basically its kind of like a nandroid back up for non rooted phones. It evens has a Tether and mobile hotspot button. Haven't tried that but its there. I've been playing around with it for since I found the app and its never force closed or had any problems. I did have one occasion where my computer web browser force closed but I've had that happen just using it although rarely. I used Safari but I'm going to try it on other browsers I have installed and see how they work on them. Not sure if those who are rooted really need it but it is a definate must have for non rooted phones at least. This has been the only one that has worked flawlessly so far with good speeds and the UI is very nice and easy to use.
Hope this helps others as much as its helped me. I have tried connecting to my computer at least 20 times so far and it has never failed to connect.
Jim Weda
You can't root a phone from Mac OS? That's weird (I wouldn't know). Have you ever considered trying something like VirtualBox, creating a virtual Windows/Linux machine and using USB passthru so the guest OS can see it? I'm pretty sure such a thing should be doable, and a virtual PC can be useful in other situations you may come across as well.
Inb4 Heimdall replaces Odin.
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josidhe said:
You can't root a phone from Mac OS? That's weird (I wouldn't know). Have you ever considered trying something like VirtualBox, creating a virtual Windows/Linux machine and using USB passthru so the guest OS can see it? I'm pretty sure such a thing should be doable, and a virtual PC can be useful in other situations you may come across as well.
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im "semi" in the same boat.. main comp is a mac, i have a PC from 2005 that i restored to use odin, although once it blue-screen-of-deathed right before i was going to click start on odin.. which made me **** my pants pretty much.. but i still odin EC05 with it and then turn the duties over to my mac
you can root with a mac. CWM 3.1.0.1 has a mac script that i use all the time..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076967
the mac instructions from the OP:
Mac OSX
1. Extract zip to a folder
2. Ensure phone is in usb debugging mode and connected to your computer
3. Open a terminal and navigate to the unzipped folder
4. Type: chmod 777 run.sh
5. Type: ./run.sh
6. Follow on screen instructions
let me kno if i can help.. seeing someone without root who wants it makes a single tear roll down my cheek
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Fire n mage said:
Inb4 Heimdall replaces Odin.
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tried endlessly to get it to work on my mac.. 10.6.8
cant be done ive decided.. heimdall for mac apparently does not work, for the epic, at least
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Inb4 Heimdall replaces Odin.
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Never going to happen
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Its not so much that "rooting" can't be done with Mac but more the lack of people who are "experts" at doing everything on a Mac. The issue I have is, unless I'm missing something is that usually Mac OS X 10.5 or higher is required. I really do want to get into the root game and explore the full potential of my phone but it just seems to be best doing so on a PC.
I have been a Mac fan since 1985 but did have to learn how to use and learn about fixing and setting up PC on a lower level because of a job I had a long time ago. I also do have an HP Pavillion a1710n desktop that I would love to use for Android purposes only but the problem I'm having is that the drive doesn't have Window's on it. I have been trying for almost a month trying to successfully install Windows Vista or 7 from iso files that a couple friends have let me use to get the computer up and running since HP has been no help at all and they never include physical disks with their computers. I know its not any hardware issues because I've done the testing and all the hardware checks out. I get all kinds of messages from the PC while attempting to install the system as to why it cannot finish the install. Never the same reason, never at the same point and after much research on the net I see there are many others out there complaining about the same thing.
I'm not being cheap. I'd purchase a retail version of Windows but I have been on disability for almost 2 years now and can't afford to pay $130+ right now which is why my friend has sent me an iso file so I could at least get my computer going. A real treat would be if someone would come out with the old z4Root type apps that allow you to root directly from you phone but no one seems to be interested in developing them anymore or the newer Android updates make it harder to do.
I would appreciate any help on how to successfully get Windows to install on my HP. Thanks in advance.
Jim
P.S. The other reason I'd like to get the PC running is so that I can learn how to eventually create apps for Android. I'd start by learning how to make themes, kernals etc, and eventually get more into learning programming for apps and such.
DrKaotica,
Thanks for the info and your offer to help if I need someone to ask who knows how to do things on the Mac. I have a feeling that you are running 10.5 or higher though which is why you are able to successfully play with your phone. If not and you're running 10.4 or less I'd be interested in learning more from you and your experience. Thanks in advance.
Jim
ac16313 said:
Never going to happen
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Well for Mac at least it's the only alternative
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jimweda said:
DrKaotica,
Thanks for the info and your offer to help if I need someone to ask who knows how to do things on the Mac. I have a feeling that you are running 10.5 or higher though which is why you are able to successfully play with your phone. If not and you're running 10.4 or less I'd be interested in learning more from you and your experience. Thanks in advance.
Jim
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I am running 10.6.8 on mine.. I haven't read that 10.5 or higher is required to use the one click root script with mac, but its certainly possible.
Id say give the script a try, at your own risk of course... if your phone isn't recognized then its not likely to cause any damage
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Fire n mage said:
Well for Mac at least it's the only alternative
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Who likes Mac's anyway?
Lol but honestly id prefer Heimdall also if I hadn't made myself familiar with the more noobish Odin
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Believe newegg has Windows 7 Home Premium for 80 bucks right now. As for trying to get it installed on the HP, sounds like it might be a hard drive issue. Especially if it gives you different errors at different times, your hard drive might be dying, and if windows installer puts files on a sector of your HD that has gone bad, it won't be able to read the file and will give you an error.
jimweda said:
Its not so much that "rooting" can't be done with Mac but more the lack of people who are "experts" at doing everything on a Mac. The issue I have is, unless I'm missing something is that usually Mac OS X 10.5 or higher is required. I really do want to get into the root game and explore the full potential of my phone but it just seems to be best doing so on a PC.
I have been a Mac fan since 1985 but did have to learn how to use and learn about fixing and setting up PC on a lower level because of a job I had a long time ago. I also do have an HP Pavillion a1710n desktop that I would love to use for Android purposes only but the problem I'm having is that the drive doesn't have Window's on it. I have been trying for almost a month trying to successfully install Windows Vista or 7 from iso files that a couple friends have let me use to get the computer up and running since HP has been no help at all and they never include physical disks with their computers. I know its not any hardware issues because I've done the testing and all the hardware checks out. I get all kinds of messages from the PC while attempting to install the system as to why it cannot finish the install. Never the same reason, never at the same point and after much research on the net I see there are many others out there complaining about the same thing.
I'm not being cheap. I'd purchase a retail version of Windows but I have been on disability for almost 2 years now and can't afford to pay $130+ right now which is why my friend has sent me an iso file so I could at least get my computer going. A real treat would be if someone would come out with the old z4Root type apps that allow you to root directly from you phone but no one seems to be interested in developing them anymore or the newer Android updates make it harder to do.
I would appreciate any help on how to successfully get Windows to install on my HP. Thanks in advance.
Jim
P.S. The other reason I'd like to get the PC running is so that I can learn how to eventually create apps for Android. I'd start by learning how to make themes, kernals etc, and eventually get more into learning programming for apps and such.
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First off, are you using a dual.layered discfor the install.
Second, try to use an easier linux distro, instead of windows if you are looking to go that route?
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GrStead123 said:
Believe newegg has Windows 7 Home Premium for 80 bucks right now. As for trying to get it installed on the HP, sounds like it might be a hard drive issue. Especially if it gives you different errors at different times, your hard drive might be dying, and if windows installer puts files on a sector of your HD that has gone bad, it won't be able to read the file and will give you an error.
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Right now being temporarily disabled $80 needs to go towards my monthly bills but thanks for the info. All I can do for testing the PC components is what I can do in the cmd.exe window like chkdsk etc., unless someone knows of any freeware type bootable diagnostics programs that can check the status of the hardware. I've been trying to find a bootable program that will allow me to test the PC and also partition my hard drive but haven't found anything. Any ideas would be appreciated. I have searched the internet for all error codes or messages I run into and there are tons of other PC users complaining about the same issues and they've swapped all kinds of hardware and still can't install Windows. I think if I can find a bootable diagnostics software and partion my hard drive I should be able to get it up and running.
I've been able to install Windows 7 4 times but they were all unstable. Windows Vista 2 times and the same, unstable but these were iso copies borrowed from a friend.
"First off, are you using a dual.layered discfor the install.
Second, try to use an easier linux distro, instead of windows if you are looking to go that route?"
Using standard 4.7GB DVD discs. I have no idea what linus distro is but willing to try anything just to get this PC up and running. Is that a different operating system? I'll google it but any info and links you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks.
*Two things that seem to help get the discs to install is when I do these commands in the cmd.exe shell. 1) format c: 2) chkdsk c: /r and then do a clean install. Not 100% but 80% of the time. I thought you could partition your hard drive in the cmd shell but I can't find a command for it. Anyone know how to create a partition on a computer with no system installed? All I have is what is located in the X:\ directory.
DrKaotica said:
I am running 10.6.8 on mine.. I haven't read that 10.5 or higher is required to use the one click root script with mac, but its certainly possible.
Id say give the script a try, at your own risk of course... if your phone isn't recognized then its not likely to cause any damage
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Its not one click root script needing 10.5, its Heimdall. I've already tried to run it.
jimweda said:
"First off, are you using a dual.layered discfor the install.
Second, try to use an easier linux distro, instead of windows if you are looking to go that route?"
Using standard 4.7GB DVD discs. I have no idea what linus distro is but willing to try anything just to get this PC up and running. Is that a different operating system? I'll google it but any info and links you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks.
*Two things that seem to help get the discs to install is when I do these commands in the cmd.exe shell. 1) format c: 2) chkdsk c: /r and then do a clean install. Not 100% but 80% of the time. I thought you could partition your hard drive in the cmd shell but I can't find a command for it. Anyone know how to create a partition on a computer with no system installed? All I have is what is located in the X:\ directory.
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You can use in recovery...
Diskpart /add
/delete
device_name
drive_name
partition_name
size
As necessary, to partition from inside recovery..
And yea, linux distros are technically "linux distributions", different versions of linux. If you are looking to get into programming, starting somewhere like linux getting used to cmd line controls versus Windows style navigation is a decent starting point..
Google will help with all of that...
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Also, about bootable software, google partition magic, you can use that with most Windows computers. Dell's will sometimes throw some curveballs, but a good utility none the less..
Also, if malware is your problem, look up Combofix..
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Diskpart /add
/delete
device_name
drive_name
partition_name
size
As necessary, to partition from inside recovery..
And yea, linux distros are technically "linux distributions", different versions of linux. If you are looking to get into programming, starting somewhere like linux getting used to cmd line controls versus Windows style navigation is a decent starting point..
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Also, about bootable software, google partition magic, you can use that with most Windows computers. Dell's will sometimes throw some curveballs, but a good utility none the less..
Also, if malware is your problem, look up Combofix..
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Thanks for the cmd help. I did find something called Hiren's Boot CD 15.1, free with tons of utilities. Just ran sectors on HD and not even one error. Always format prior to install so I would think any malware would be wiped as well. Doing a deep clean next to make sure and will test out their partition app.
I am trying to run Windows so I could install Android SDK/Java JDK/Java JRE/Eclipse and was thinking about learning Java for programming. Thinking of trying to play around with Themes, kernals etc, first while trying to figure out Java coding which seems to be a popular choice for getting a grasp on working on Android. I will look into Linus Distros though. I don't want to pass up anything that would be helpful. Thanks for your info. I really appreciate it.
Where did you see that you could move system apps? All I see is the SD card.
wow, airdroid is very cool, basically makes your phone a local webserver!

[Q] Burn ISO to USB

Ok, this may be more of a general android question rather than device specific. I have several ISO files for various operating systems that I carry around on my memory card. Is there a way within Android ( likely similar to a dd command ) that I could burn the image to USB key? Im looking for a way to fix/repair computers on the go without needing to carry around my laptop ( Or download new / test releases and live boot them so to speak ).
Before you ask, yes I have a kernel that supports USB OTG and i can read/write to my usb key within my phone already. I was looking on the market for something similar to "live usb creator" but had no luck.
This is one of the only threads ive ever started and I do look around first. The information given could help many out if there is such a way The GS2 technically has more processing power than my n450 powered netbook It would be nice to actually utilize it as such.
pyraxiate said:
Ok, this may be more of a general android question rather than device specific. I have several ISO files for various operating systems that I carry around on my memory card. Is there a way within Android ( likely similar to a dd command ) that I could burn the image to USB key? Im looking for a way to fix/repair computers on the go without needing to carry around my laptop ( Or download new / test releases and live boot them so to speak ).
Before you ask, yes I have a kernel that supports USB OTG and i can read/write to my usb key within my phone already. I was looking on the market for something similar to "live usb creator" but had no luck.
This is one of the only threads ive ever started and I do look around first. The information given could help many out if there is such a way The GS2 technically has more processing power than my n450 powered netbook It would be nice to actually utilize it as such.
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From android OS I have no clue bro. However, you can try UnetBootin. This program will take an ISO and burn it to a USB drive that will boot. I do it all the time with Linux distros or Windows repair disks. Good luck
KillaHurtz said:
From android OS I have no clue bro. However, you can try UnetBootin. This program will take an ISO and burn it to a USB drive that will boot. I do it all the time with Linux distros or Windows repair disks. Good luck
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Hi there. Thanks for the reply. I've used UnetBootin actually. I'm really looking for an equivalent that will run on android OS lol.
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very interesting new App potential i see here
i could myself find this useful
to "burn" a bootable USB key to fix/boot repair a dead PC or something along the lines
so, the challenge will be to port over any of the Linux tools over to Android to get it working, shouldn't be too hard
unfortunately i do not have the spare time to get into this yet
but any DEV with free time wanting a fun challenge, this is an interesting one to play with
AllGamer said:
very interesting new App potential i see here
i could myself find this useful
to "burn" a bootable USB key to fix/boot repair a dead PC or something along the lines
so, the challenge will be to port over any of the Linux tools over to Android to get it working, shouldn't be too hard
unfortunately i do not have the spare time to get into this yet
but any DEV with free time wanting a fun challenge, this is an interesting one to play with
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I'm looking into our available commands using terminal emulation So far its looking promising ( more like a cat command but still ).
If there are any Devs out there reading this, it would be a nice tool to have ;-)
In theory it should be very possible. Also, I was thinking about the possibility of porting over qtparted. Most of us techs have external USB to SATA/IDE adapters. Imagine pulling a laptop drive, wiping virii, repairing using scandisk, repartitioning borked disks, ect. Great ideas :-D This phone has more processing power than most netbooks in the market ( and actually better gpu capability too lol ). Why not put them to use !
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would be nice
I would love to see something like this. my pc hard drive has failed, New drive acquired but no win or ubuntu boot disks. If I could just put a boot on my spare 4gb micro ad... only have the phone for web access
hi
Yes I've wanted to do the same thing on a android tablet android tablets are missing out on such software iso burning and CD DVD writer tht connects too the tablet would be great the only thing stopping me from converting from Windows to android tablet with keyboard is this problem . Google would acutely make a killing if programmes and hardware like this was out for tablets .
Same here I have a tablet with that kernel that I can connect USB drives to but no burning software gutted
Try DroidDrive.
I'm going to test if it can boot iso's too.
Normally, it can boot img's.
Yes...I too need such apps like rufus on phone to create bootable pendrive
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Droid drive can only be used to boot pc from phone, but it can't be used to make pendrive bootable, and that is actually what we need.
From Terminal Emulator
dd if=/path/to/iso of=/block/device/id (for flash drive)
The only problem is that this method uses the entire flash drive.
Oh, and finding the block device id of your otg flash drive on android seems to be problematic.
Haven't tried it yet...
but it works on linux, and busybox
provides dd to android so...
Anyone have a way to find block device id for a usb otg flash drive?
ISO to USB on Play Store does this with no root
Am I missing something. I've been looking for hours and the app mentioned is very suspect and unreliable. I need create windows boot aswell whether from usb of phone itself.
Can't use root option app either due to SM-S908W as my phone.
Help pls!!
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Mountain Lion vs. Kies

I uninstalled Kies because when it came up indicating there was an update for my Kies, it wouldn't work. When I tried to download and install the latest version from Samsung, it came up that OSX 10.5-10.7 only are supported.
Anyone manage to install Kies on OSX Mountain Lion?
cue_32 said:
I uninstalled Kies because when it came up indicating there was an update for my Kies, it wouldn't work. When I tried to download and install the latest version from Samsung, it came up that OSX 10.5-10.7 only are supported.
Anyone manage to install Kies on OSX Mountain Lion?
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you and me both...a little frustrating but with any luck an update will be out sooner rather than later. In the mean time i have to sneek onto my wifes laptop.
Jimmiray007 said:
you and me both...a little frustrating but with any luck an update will be out sooner rather than later. In the mean time i have to sneek onto my wifes laptop.
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yeah I had to pull my old laptop out of the archives to get access to Windoze... I guess if anyone has the .dmg file that can work on OSX Mountain Lion can post it here if anything.
cue_32 said:
yeah I had to pull my old laptop out of the archives to get access to Windoze... I guess if anyone has the .dmg file that can work on OSX Mountain Lion can post it here if anything.
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I have the same problem
Still waiting for an update from Samsung.
Ran into this the other night. Wonder how long before it updates... guess I'm glad I have a Windows partition for work.
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It's all part of Apples great big plan, block any Samsung applications on their Macs!
KIES on ML
i extracted the application itself, but kies can't recognize my s3. you can trie your luck if you want. just reply/message me and i will upload it.
Simple fix guys. Get a real OS. Done.
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bootloopz said:
Simple fix guys. Get a real OS. Done.
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so what is your so called 'real OS' ?
davidderdavid said:
so what is your so called 'real OS' ?
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That would be pretty much anything that isn't developed by a company with an apple containing a bite out of it as a logo.
Hahaha here we gooooo...
"Hi I'm a Mac...."
"...and I'm a PC"
just for the heck of it I wanted to see if I could use this kies via my Ubuntu.
on the phone:
So I turn on WiFi-Direct (i'm home so naturally I have my WiFi working)
then I start Kies from app icon.
In a short time Keis gives me an address.
I type this address into my laptop browser to connect.
and sure enough I have a page which shows various images, videos, ringtones, contacts, bookmarks, etc that lives on my phone. I've uploaded files to the phone using this. So it works.
and I'm using a real OS.
I love how a powerful, beautiful frontend to BSD is not classified as a "real OS". What, because it doesn't run .exes? Give me a break. I run Windows 7 in a virtual machine with 4GB of RAM and it runs flawlessly any time I need to run a Windows app. It also allows USB passthrough so I can flash my phone with Odin. I can do anything a Windows computer can do (besides game, but that's what my PC is for) without actually starting up my loud, powerful PC.
Lose the bias, guys. I'm sure you dislike Macs because you buy into the whole "Macs are for idiots" paradigm, on top of them being expensive. Cry more.
As for the topic, I haven't tried Kies in ML but I do have some intermittent WiFi issues. Hopefully 10.8.1 will address a lot of the problems.
I have a mac with lion and I use parrells with win 7 and I only use Odin that's only thing I trust.
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Apparently you can bypass the installer and the app works just fine: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4163556?start=0&tstart=0
acjohnson55 said:
Apparently you can bypass the installer and the app works just fine: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4163556?start=0&tstart=0
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Tried that, even on 10.8.1 it still doesn't work. Sure I can launch the app, but doesn't connect to phone and I can't disable automatic backups cos the app crashes when I open that tab.
Also, side-note:
yokken said:
I love how a powerful, beautiful frontend to BSD is not classified as a "real OS". What, because it doesn't run .exes? Give me a break. I run Windows 7 in a virtual machine with 4GB of RAM and it runs flawlessly any time I need to run a Windows app. It also allows USB passthrough so I can flash my phone with Odin. I can do anything a Windows computer can do (besides game, but that's what my PC is for) without actually starting up my loud, powerful PC.
Lose the bias, guys. I'm sure you dislike Macs because you buy into the whole "Macs are for idiots" paradigm, on top of them being expensive. Cry more.
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Thanks. Finally someone who actually knows that OS X is BSD, and thus a REAL OS... the GUI means jack ****, as if I ever need to do something that the GUI "limits" (which is not much), I can fire up a terminal and run whatever command I wish. As a system admin of both *Nix and Windows, I can safely say that Windows is the only OS that shouldn't be classed as a "REAL" OS (although that would be short-sighted, as it's perfectly decent and usable). I mean it's technically the only mainstream OS that doesn't follow some kind of *nix background and therefore is needlessly different...
I have kies installed on my macbook pro with mountain lion 10.8.1 and have not had any issues to date. Maybe check in settings you can use apps from the internet and its not only setup for app store apps. I never had an issue with mine and even recently have upgraded the software to make it compatible with my new phone firmware.

[Q] I want someone to do something easy

I have a Nexus 10 and I am tired of android and I'm going to sell it and get a windows RT tablet (probably the just anounced Nokia 2520). The only things I do with my tablet is download comics from my computer (*.cbr files) and then put them on my tablet and read them and also internet browsing. Can I do these things with a windows RT tablet? Is there a file manager to put the files to the tablet from the PC? Is there a comic book reader app? How smoothly does it show the pages changing in a comic book? If someone could help me with this I would be really greatful.
eltarod said:
I have a Nexus 10 and I am tired of android and I'm going to sell it and get a windows RT tablet (probably the just anounced Nokia 2520). The only things I do with my tablet is download comics from my computer (*.cbr files) and then put them on my tablet and read them and also internet browsing. Can I do these things with a windows RT tablet? Is there a file manager to put the files to the tablet from the PC? Is there a comic book reader app? How smoothly does it show the pages changing in a comic book? If someone could help me with this I would be really greatful.
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There are a couple of CBR readers in the store and yes there is a full file manager in Windows RT. It is pretty similar to windows 8 in that regard. I would actually suggest though that you sync the files from your PC to SkyDrive and then Sync them down to RT.
When you with skydrive can you select the exact folder you want to put the files in the tablet?
You cannot connect a windows RT tablet to a PC directly with a USB cable as with android tablets. But windows RT is a near full port of windows 8. So you get the regular windows 8 file browser, regular internet explorer file download abilities. Skydrive can sync your files as already mentioned. Or a simple USB memory stick plugged into your PC, copy files onto it, plug it into your RT, copy files off of it. And network file servers work too.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
You cannot connect a windows RT tablet to a PC directly with a USB cable as with android tablets. But windows RT is a near full port of windows 8. So you get the regular windows 8 file browser, regular internet explorer file download abilities. Skydrive can sync your files as already mentioned. Or a simple USB memory stick plugged into your PC, copy files onto it, plug it into your RT, copy files off of it. And network file servers work too.
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Oh great!! Then it will defenetly do for that part.. So my only question left if possible from someone to answer.. Do the comic book reader apps lags while changing pages of the comic? Can anyone confirm this?
eltarod said:
Oh great!! Then it will defenetly do for that part.. So my only question left if possible from someone to answer.. Do the comic book reader apps lags while changing pages of the comic? Can anyone confirm this?
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No if you go for the Surface 2.
I had a surface rt, note 10.1 and a xoom and i love reading comics, but to be honest i like more reading on a android
Android - perfect viewer
Surface rt - CBReader (i test all cbr readers and this one is the best)
Both work preatty good but on android is so much better. On android the autozoom and two fingers zoom is flawless in metro is some pain in the ass sometimes
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You cannot connect a windows RT tablet to a PC directly with a USB cable as with android tablets.
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Oh, in Dell XPS10 manual that was said to be possible, but was not working in real. I thought that's engineering fail in Dell, but really - other RT devices also can't be connected via USB? Even some RNDIS and ActiveSync (from WM) like behavior would be nice here...
kitor said:
Oh, in Dell XPS10 manual that was said to be possible, but was not working in real. I thought that's engineering fail in Dell, but really - other RT devices also can't be connected via USB? Even some RNDIS and ActiveSync (from WM) like behavior would be nice here...
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No, the microUSB is charging only and on most tablets also USB host (use one of the old android USB OTG adaptors). Windows RT is almost a direct port of windows 8 to ARM. Windows does not support acting as a USB device, only USB host is supported. Windows NT (the kernel, or the very bottom layer of the operating system) does support USB device mode as windows phone 8 also uses the NT kernel and can be USB device, in theory they could have added a USB device mode driver to windows 8 but they didnt.
Instead though you can use a memory stick because well, its windows, or if you share a network drive from your main machine you can view it on the tablet, FTP clients are available too if you put an FTP server on your main system. Skydrive synchronisation, dropbox app, google drive in browser. Lots of ways of moving files.
Adding USB device mode would be a nice touch on their part though....
Alot of x86 chipsets don't support it though so on x86 tablets the cost factor of adding an external USB device mode chip may be a factor.
Well if your going for a lower price the $349 Asus t100 is also a good choice it runs complete windows 8.1 and comes with Microsoft office for free. The battery life is around 11 hour use and it comes with a free keyboard dock. You can run any x86 windows legacy applications on this device.
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WarLion said:
Surface rt - CBReader (i test all cbr readers and this one is the best)
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is this available in the store? couldnt find it.
eltarod said:
I have a Nexus 10 and I am tired of android and I'm going to sell it and get a windows RT tablet (probably the just anounced Nokia 2520). The only things I do with my tablet is download comics from my computer (*.cbr files) and then put them on my tablet and read them and also internet browsing. Can I do these things with a windows RT tablet? Is there a file manager to put the files to the tablet from the PC? Is there a comic book reader app? How smoothly does it show the pages changing in a comic book? If someone could help me with this I would be really greatful.
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You are aware that android can browse the web, can read comics, has a file managers and can sync wirelessly with your windows PC, right?
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You are aware that android can browse the web, can read comics, has a file managers and can sync wirelessly with your windows PC, right?
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Windows explorer is far better than any android file manager I have come across. Internet explorer as a windows web browser may not be the best but massively exceeds any mobile browser I have ever come across.
Any incase you didn't notice. He said he was tired of android.
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Windows explorer is far better than any android file manager I have come across. Internet explorer as a windows web browser may not be the best but massively exceeds any mobile browser I have ever come across.
Any incase you didn't notice. He said he was tired of android.
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YEs, I realised he is, but I've seen SO MANY people complaining that there's no file manager or can't do 'this' or 'that', that I have to ask.

[Q] how to identify mobile operating system?

How to identify if the smart phone connected to the PC runs Android. I want to identify this information from an application running in PC (say Windows PC), without enabling USB debugger in mobile.
I tried to figure out using the IMEI number, but could not find.
Is there any API or smarter way available that uniquely identify if the connected device runs Android? Like verifying the folder structures or something? Does the device drivers contain the OS information which I can use? How the PC-Suites like "MOBILedit!" identifies it?
Also, how www[dot]imei[dot]info gives me the operating system of my mobile just by IMEI number?
Looking all these makes me to believe that there is some way for this , please help.
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deepak3 said:
How to identify if the smart phone connected to the PC runs Android. I want to identify this information from an application running in PC (say Windows PC), without enabling USB debugger in mobile.
I tried to figure out using the IMEI number, but could not find.
Is there any API or smarter way available that uniquely identify if the connected device runs Android? Like verifying the folder structures or something? Does the device drivers contain the OS information which I can use? How the PC-Suites like "MOBILedit!" identifies it?
Also, how www[dot]imei[dot]info gives me the operating system of my mobile just by IMEI number?
Looking all these makes me to believe that there is some way for this , please help.
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Interesting question dude. I'm not sure if this will help but its what I've got. If you use Tor, the free proxy, they give you a way to check your anonymity by going to ip-check.info. and if you do a full test it shows a bunch of unique device id's and stuff for your IP, but it also tells what device, os, build number, and even which browser your using. Now I know this is all over the internet and for a different purpose than what youre looking for but if they can figure out what device I'm using over a browser, I think you can accomplish what you want here. Check it out and maybe it'll inspire some ideas. And keep us posted!
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Interesting question dude. I'm not sure if this will help but its what I've got. If you use Tor, the free proxy, they give you a way to check your anonymity by going to ip-check.info. and if you do a full test it shows a bunch of unique device id's and stuff for your IP, but it also tells what device, os, build number, and even which browser your using. Now I know this is all over the internet and for a different purpose than what youre looking for but if they can figure out what device I'm using over a browser, I think you can accomplish what you want here. Check it out and maybe it'll inspire some ideas. And keep us posted!
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Well, when it goes through internet, there is a way. The User-Agent string that is passed during request will have all the info like OS, browser version etc.. I am more looking at the specific scenario of mine.
Just brainstorming asshole. Hope ya never figure it out
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That just made me laugh...dam I needed that thanks been way to sad lately lol....

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