"Moister Damage" On The Tilt 2?? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......

froggylover1345 said:
...... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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seems like sort of thing that could happen if moisture entered into your phone as that could cause electric shocks and considering the inner hardware and electrical components are very delicate even the slightest exposure to water vapors or moisture is a enough to damage them especially considering your scenario where you had no battery (and i am assuming you didn't have back cover either or you did?) but regardless as far as my understanding is this behavior seems in line with what you are thinking.

So no way to fix it.... I'm now phoneless. I'm so mad at myself right now....

I live in SWFL and unless you dropped the thing in a puddle I cant imagine the humidty down here doing that to your phone. Did you drop the thing in a puddle? The back cover is by no means air tight so I dont think NOT having a back cover did that too your phone.
Turn the phone on and plug it into your charger and see how long it stays on. There's a trick discussed here that talks about wrapping the phone up in paper towels and then putting it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. That should suck any moisture you have in your phone out. Just do a search in the forum for "rice" or something.. I dont know.
Good Luck Though!!!

This is the thread you want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669472

i wouldn't think humidity would cause that much damage.
have you installed any recent app(s) that you might suspect causing these issues?

I thought the SAME THING. That's why I thought nothing of it! I just did a hard reset on it the night before so no apps installed. I did go on Android but, I do that about 1-2 times a week. Only reason I think it's moisture is because of the "white smoke" I saw thinking it was condensation. It wasn't really taken care of for a few hours because I was in disney. When I got to the hotel I put it in paper towels. The touchscreen works, and I can open apps on the menu but not use them. Wont let input through. No hardkeys work either. I'm gonna try a hard reset.

I WAS WRONG! I just did a hard reset, and it fixed the problem! Had to do it the button sequence way but it worked! The last thing I did on it, the night before was go on Android. Everything functioned well their and had no problems. What I'm guessing is I got a bad boot or something that stopped some drivers from working. I figured this out by trying to download mymobiler on the phone so I could do a hard reset and it wouldn't let me open it because it wasn't signed with a trusted certificate. Whew.... this is A HUGE RELIEF.

ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys

XERO_Racer said:
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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I wouldnt think it would damnage the phone. Unless you actually submerge the unit or dump water on it it should be able to withstand the humidity. It's not like its in the moisture for hours and hours just a few minutes while you shower. Keep your fan running while you shower and that should help even more; although the fan should be on while you shower anyway AND for at least 5 minutes after you shower (little known fact) to protect the drywall and structure of the bathroom.

Humid place
Where I live some times in summer we have 98% of ambient humidity!
So it´s almost impossible to have anything dry here

froggylover1345 said:
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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Just let it do some thorough drying out. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed but..after some thorough drying and TLC, it just started wrking again like nothing ever happened. I let my father have the Tilt cuz i had already had a replacement one sent to me. Just told them i lost it. cuz u say water, they like warranty voided..lol Still wrks to this day, its his new toy till he get that new EVO 4g for sprint. he got the tilt to work with a prepaid sim card. im like dayumm..he showing something new..lol

demandarin said:
. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed
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No pun intended right?

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Condensation Hard Freeze, Reboot on Home Screen.

Hello
I just purchased a GSM Galaxy Nexus From Google last monday. Got it on wednesday the first thing i did was put a screen Protector on it before booting the phone up.(ArmorSuit MilitaryShield) The phone work great on Thursday no issues what so ever. Then i Friday i went to the gym. Kept the thing in my pocket and wiped my hands before touching anything on the phone. (Waiting for otterbox to arrive)
I as soon as i get out i notice Condensation in the front camera. I soon as i received a text my phone hung up and reboot itself. After loading again to the home screen it hung up again as soon as text pop up again. I after 8 tries i final was frustrated. Took the SIM card out and swipe to the right with my finger to try to see if i could unlock it to the home screen.
I was finally able to get into the phone and turn on airplane mode before it hung up again. After i did that i Sut down phone and put the SIM card back in. Repeated the the same steps. As i turn airplane mode off the phone hung up again! (Seems everyone in the mother had to text me at that moment) I was able to make two phone call's before it lock up, but i couldn't hear them and they couldn't hear me. Called 611 then i was able to hear at&t computer but sound like the speaker was dieing. Then the phone lock up and reboot itself.
So i go into the boot loader. The phone was functioning perfected in the boot loader. Play with it for about 10mins. No hangs up. I found that weird. So i reboot the phone was able to get myself into the Factory reset. After that i did a hard factory reset.
So i call Google and they sent me over to Samsung. Samsung wants to do a replacement. I don't mind doing that i just don't like the fact they need a CC number just in case they have to Charge if the phone was abuseded which it wasn't. Baby the hell out of it. They asking me if the phone came into any touch with liquid. The the only thing i could think of was the solution the screen Protector Company sent. I didn't spray the solution directly on the phone but the direction told me to spray couple of sprays on the side of the SP that was going on the screen. (2 Sprays).
The Samsung rep told me the systoms don't sound like water damage. So after getting off the phone (About 1 hr) i notice the condensation was disappearing from the lens. So i took a quick blow dryer to it for about 30 secs. Turn the phone back on and everything been rock solid (Expect for wifi cutting in and out for some reason) for about 2 days.
So tomorrow Samsung fiance department will be calling me for my CC info. My question do you think i should send it in ? Do you think they will find water damage? Was this water damage ? Does the GSM galaxy nexus have Water Sticker ? I'm not able to find one. (Every where i googled no one had a direct answer)
I'm not trying to rip Samsung off i just don't want this to happen down the road again. If it was water damage ill just deal with it i guess.
I wonder if i don't open the new phone tey send me and just use my old 3gs in till i hear back from them... will i be able to send the Replacement phone back if it was water damage ? Just pay the shipping costs? First time dealing with something like this
What do you think i should do ?
Thank you for any input.
Sorry for the wall of text.
Just Notice i posted this in the wrong section My bad ill ask for mod to move it.
Look at the water contact indicator under the battery and see if it is red. A wet apply screen protector should not have caused this, but be careful to not let water get in the speaker and crevices when applying. In the future if your phone does come in contact with water or condensation remove the battery and sim Immediately and place in dry rice for 24 hours, do not try to power it on. Many others are reporting wifi instability, check the threads for solutions.
WiredPirate said:
Look at the water contact indicator under the battery and see if it is red. A wet apply screen protector should not have caused this, but be careful to not let water get in the speaker and crevices when applying. In the future if your phone does come in contact with water or condensation remove the battery and sim Immediately and place in dry rice for 24 hours, do not try to power it on. Many others are reporting wifi instability, check the threads for solutions.
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Looks like your good to me, I don't see any red.
WiredPirate said:
Looks like your good to me, I don't see any red.
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Do you think Samsung will find anything ? Sorry for all the questions. The lens on the front camera was white. Is there stickers inside the phone where the CPU is
I heard there was like 3 water indicators in the phone.
That I couldn't tell you, I've never taken the phone apart so I would only be guessing. You might could find out by looking for a "tear down" of the phone, there should be several online if you do a Google search. Is the phone continuing to function well for you? Besides the wifi?
Yeah its been running great. Just got off the phone with Samsung. I think i just keep this phone. I don't want to pay for repair cost's. If the phone dies in month then i guess it was water damage. I hope there's no corrosion on PCB. I would love to take it apart but i don't want to void the warranty to check. Is there warranty Sticker in there ?
The wifi thing might be my fault. My laptop does that sometimes too. I'm just freaking out. I love the phone. I don't want it too die. Just ran a CPU stability test for about 15mins. No errors the battery was at 42c temp. Went ahead and sut the phone down. Going to wait 15 mins then turn it back on.

Rice Works

For any doubters, here's a story. My Captivate Glide decided to take a little swim in the toilet Friday night (don't ask how or why, because even I don't know), so I dried it off and all the works. I also decided to take part in that rice myth for waterlogged devices. I checked it the next morning, and it still didn't work. So later that afternoon, I was ready to go to the AT&T store and make an insurance claim, and to my extreme delight and surprise, it turned on. Only a couple keys on the keyboard are sticky, but I don't use the keyboard nearly enough to justify a $125 deductible.
So moral of the story is that
A.) the rice myth works
and
B.) the Captivate Glide is one resilient phone!
Keys are sticky? Try wiping them down with lens cleaner ive done that for sticky keys
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Rice always works butbu need to give it more then one day usally then would boot prlly weird the first time cause might still be moisture on th board the steams off. Even if the keys were "sticky" they would eventually get back t proper working condition.. I took a dive with mine in my pocket down 10 ft of water so
phatryan69 said:
Rice always works butbu need to give it more then one day usally then would boot prlly weird the first time cause might still be moisture on th board the steams off. Even if the keys were "sticky" they would eventually get back t proper working condition.. I took a dive with mine in my pocket down 10 ft of water so
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Hopefully, at least, you took a picture with it, while you were down there.
(Before it died, that is. And auto-saved to sd card, of course.)
From speaking with people who specialize in remediating electronic devices (smoke, water), it seems the single most important thing is to get all forms of power away from the thing as soon as possible.
Including what would be the CMOS battery in a computer.
Apparently it's the (micro?) corrosion between power and water that kills it.
If I had done the dive, I'd be freaking out and ripping the case apart to get at any battery. Probably doing the case in in the process, in my panic.
Good to hear you, and yours, survived. One less thing to live down (if you're married)?
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Rice thing? Pack a dunked device in a bag of rice and leave it for a couple of days? Perhaps with a good fan going nearby? (When my basement flooded, even though only a couple of inches deep, they brought in some industrial fans for several days. Even if the water seems gone, the humidity is still way high, and that's gotta come down, too.)

epic 4g touch Water Damaged

well guys, i kinda left my phone sitting nexto my glass of water when i was sleeping, woke up..and the phone was off, and the battery had a RED TAB on it. SO i put it in a bag of rice for 2 days, turned it on with a new battery and it worked COMPLETELY FINE, i used it all day, that night i turned it off and when i tried to turn it on the next morning something went wrong, The galaxy S2 logo shows up, closes then pops up again, then it boots up to the main screen where my lock screen is, the touch screen doesn't work at all anymore, So i boot it up into recovery mode, and i go to try a factory reset, and the power button doesn't let me select anything.but when i hit the little menu button on the bottom left, it takes the recovery to a loading screen, so the touch screen must be working right???... SOO i thought that id try a 1 click ROM, so i tried to connect it to my computer,and the computer doesn't read it AT ALL....i put it into ODIN mode, tried connecting it again, nothing, SOOO i really dont know what to do here, it was working perfectly fine... and the WERID THING is, when it turns on to the lock screen, i can receive texts,emails,phone calls, and the phone is updating games and stuf i have installed...i just cant unlock the screen, so if ANYONE could help me here it would be greatly appreciated, Thank you
Sounds like your phone had residual moisture trapped inside and that seeped into circuits or connections and caused a short that's borking your digitizer.
Whenever you have a water mishap like that you need to disassemble your phone and pack all the pieces in rice or suspend them in front of an air conditioner while letting the cold dry air blow over and around the parts overnight.
The a/c part I know first hand because my wife toilet bombed her epic last summer, and that's what I did, reassembled the next morning and its still working fine.
Of coarse when the phone hit the water it was pulled instantly and I pulled the battery and instantly disassembled the phone.
In your case I don't know if disassembling it now will help.
You may need parts to fix it.
Start Googling. There is NO software that's going to fix your phone.
Pp.:beer::thumbup:
From me to you on an Epic Touch running the best rom ever.
well im taking it to a cell phone repair shop in town tommorow, see if they can possibly fix it, well have to see...
Mine fell in a pot hole left it in rice for 3 days still didn't work was very laggy had to get a replacement phone
Send from a mircowave
When I got my first one I went overboard off the boat I was working on. Five minutes in the water, it was toast. That was salt water though...
Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
Liquipel, email them and ask them to officially support the Sprint GS2 as well as the AT&T & Tmobile that they already support for waterproofing, I already did and they said they'd do it, but it's not official yet cuz not enough people have been asking I think for the ET4G version.
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Dropped phone into water..

I've dropped my phone to water and it was working for some moment's and it got shut down.I dried it and i tried to press power but it didn't react at all and it's not turning on now.Do we have something on our phone that can prove that it was exposed to water ? Or is there something i could do to fix the prob ? Also only half of the phone got into water.And it vibrated once after like half an hour by itself,and i heard some weird sound from phone for some time.
Weekend Offender said:
I've dropped my phone to water and it was working for some moment's and it got shut down.I dried it and i tried to press power but it didn't react at all and it's not turning on now.
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My friend with a S4 had same problem.
How he fixed it was that he shut his phone off and left it in a bowl of uncooked rice (or use any dehydrator) for 2 or 3 days.
This is just advice and I've never experienced such issue.
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Well, uncooked rice is good, its an easy alternative. Whats even better is silica gel. Its not easily available unless you're working in chemistry lab or have friends that do. For silica gel, you can heat up the silica gel first, let it cool and put your phone inside the silica gel and let it be for 2 hours, even better if you remove the simcard and memory card tray so that the moisture can secape from inside the phone. You can try opening the back cover, only if you know how. Actually you need to open (I cant explain it here) the bottom rounded cover, then slide down the back cover then gently pull it out. For silica gel, a few hours should be enough. Longer is better. For uncooked rice, I would suggest a few days.Longer would be better.
Its really best to remove the battery of a phone, but in our phone case, its a bit difficult unless you know how to. At least you can put some insulator between the power contact between the battery and the phone.
It was sitting whole night on table and i plugged it on charger and now it booted and everything work's.
I've read somewhere that if it work's it can die any time because of water that was inside,like ppl had their phone working for 2 - 3 months and suddenly they stop.Do you know any way that I can prevent this from happening ?
EDIT: Now my touch doesn't work.
Weekend Offender said:
It was sitting whole night on table and i plugged it on charger and now it booted and everything work's.
I've read somewhere that if it work's it can die any time because of water that was inside,like ppl had their phone working for 2 - 3 months and suddenly they stop.Do you know any way that I can prevent this from happening ?
EDIT: Now my touch doesn't work.
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I think you should use the rice method to remove all traces of water left in your phone.
Weekend Offender said:
It was sitting whole night on table and i plugged it on charger and now it booted and everything work's.
I've read somewhere that if it work's it can die any time because of water that was inside,like ppl had their phone working for 2 - 3 months and suddenly they stop.Do you know any way that I can prevent this from happening ?
EDIT: Now my touch doesn't work.
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As we have said, leave your phone inside a bowl/box of uncooked rice, its a good humidity absorber. That will absorb almost all the humidity inside your phone. Don;t turn it on until then. You don't want anything to short circuit inside your phone. Silica gel is whole lot better than uncooked rice, but it can be hard to find.
Hardware button's doesn't work too so i can't wake it or turn it off..It was in rice for good 8 hour's and today I will return it to service.I think digitizer,microphone and hardware button's are the only thing's that doesn't work atm.
I was just listening to music when it fell in the tub filled with water(obviously). My initial reaction being the idiot and panicky me is to try if my phone is still on, and it was. then the battery drained so quickly and then i clicked the shut off button and it went off. I tried the rice method overnight. Nothing happened. Does my phone still have hope or should I let go? please help

Dropped in water, soked in rice bag, dried out in sun

Hi Team,
I love my phone and am not looking to change it,I was in a meeting with my client and my phone dropped in water while doing so, but I had immediately pulled it out and cleaned and switched it off without any further damage.
Just to let you know that I had a back cover for this also which would have protected it to a good shot, however i am more concerned about the front panel and bottom side of charging port speaker, mic and headphone jack.
I could not open it from back else i would have done that and just put that in the rice bag for about 36 hours or more. then i put it under the morning sunlight for about 20 minutes.
Due to the sun I believe that the back panel now near o the bottom side appears to be pulled out a bit.
I have not swtiched it on yet even once, however, I have again put it back in the rice bag.
Any helps here, what should I do and when do i need to turn it on to see any damages.
I do want to go to service center for experts to get it cleaned it inside. However due to lock down i can't do it.
Can anybody guide me what and how to do from here.
I am really not in a mood to get a new phone. There are a lot of stuff saved on the phone that I even don't even have the backup for.
Please help me with this ASAP!
Definitely something shorted in your phone, unfortunately we can't just guessing which part is shorted, usually some diodes, but it can also be an IC.
arif_kholid said:
Definitely something shorted in your phone, unfortunately we can't just guessing which part is shorted, usually some diodes, but it can also be an IC.
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Hi arif, I have just tried working on my phone yesterday and seems like it is working fine for now. It's juts that it s lagging a bit.
everything is functional. I guess I'll have to wait until something strange starts to happen.
Hopefully then lockdown is over and we can get it fixed permanently.

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