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Best / Reliable 6.1 Roms

Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.

sammyboy405 said:
Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.
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u have to load each because each user here may have a different experience with each because for me one rom maybe perfect next person may crash left and right and so on so only way to know is trying each like i like pvh 19400 although am now trying pvh19900

To a fellow OK State alumn, I have tested at least a dozen different 6.1 ROMS and this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
has been the cleanest, fastest, and most stable one for me. Just add the applications you want.

Much thanks! Yea thats the one i was toying around with. There are so many apps out there. I dont know where to start. and which ones would tailor towards my use.

i downloaded and tried them all,
Quite happy with the one ive got now, many have loads of apps but you start to loose available RAM when that happens.
best just to try a few and see which one best suits what you want to do, suggestion though is to keep your PIM and other things backed up incase you need to do a hard reset in the event of a freeze

Just keep on this forum as often as you can. It took me months to find out what I wanted and what worked. Just be patient and play around. It is more of a hobby to me than anything.

less questions and read read read the thread posts!! try a few with features u like! all the cooks have great roms if u know how to use them....

Best ROM
I have install and test almost all the WM 6.1 ROMS.
Like the other guys say you really have to test out a ROM as you might like some features over others.
In my time i have found the following:
TNT ROM WM6.1 to be the best all rounder - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376945
Only thing i don't like about it is the startup speed. Every with the animation disabled and the network auto config it still makes a good long while.
Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favourite ROM so far but does not come with many applications

im using pays rom 6.1, use it for a month now. stable and quite fast

level5_HTC said:
Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favorite ROM so far but does not come with many applications
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Its what I have and his review is spot on. Its very fast, probably the fastest I have ever used and incredibly fast startup time. It was missing many of the programs I like but thankfully I already had them on my storage card from playing with a Schaps Lite ROM a while back. I think my last changes will be a flashlight software like vjcandela and something better for BT transfers but all in all this is a great ROM and will definitely keep me happy until the next Schaps is released.

I like PDAViet build 19900... It is SOOOOOOOOO fast and had a remarkable 28Mb of ram left after installing it with almost 70Mb storage memory. Now down to about 25MB ram and 45Mb storage as I've put a heap of 3rd party apps on...Cheers...

the last Binky 6.1 WM 3.5 is a great slim one and you have the possibility to install your own apps after flashing
but guys, I can't beam files using the f***ing IR port... anyidea about it?

Does Manila 2D really a good UI for Trinity?No!

Hi guys,
Dont know how about yours, bu my trinity even cannot play video after I have manila 2D in my rom! The system will show me "there are not enough memory to play this video" just after a few second I load it.
My point is, we buy wm phone is for running many programs that we interested in. But with manila 2D, our trinity can no longer complete most of tasks properly. So, is manila 2D really a good UI for us?
Hope cooks can make lite roms, and manila 2D cab. Then people can install it if they really like it. For others, we can still have a fast, reliable device to do everything we like!

Manila uses too much resource as trinity has only 64MB Ram

i agreed. it also makes other oem apps behaved differently and often lead to insufficient memory issue. i think it might works well with other devices.

i also agree with you. With Manila battery consumption is also very high

John-Wu said:
i also agree with you. With Manila battery consumption is also very high
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hi, dude, I found the same problem too.
with manila 2D my trinity will run out of battery in only 2 days, even I dont do anything.

I think your poll says it all. 50:50 response, more or less.
At the end of the day, it all depends what you use your device for.
High application users can not expect their device to run well with Manila2D. That seems to be accepted by all ROM cooks. (It would be like a serious runner expecting to get good use out of a pair of Nikes, Pumas or Y3 Yamamotos - can't be done, even if they are up to 60% off).
Low application users can, however, enjoy Manila2D. With mpenguin's customiser tool, the possibilities for theme generation and customization are endless. That's why it's one of the busiest threads in here!
Mattster.

Pushing the Trinity to it's Limits!!!
Please see my post here for my thoughts on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842722&postcount=32

It's all about free RAM. Unfortunately we can't convert storage to free RAM.
Deactivate Manilla2D from your Settings>Today and reboot. Free ram increases from 23MB to 28MB. Also depends on the way you have HTC TaskManager configured. Services running in background like largetitlebar, htcvolume, sqm. NETCF3.5 and why didn't MSFT released it yet on wm6.1 and on newest builds.
Battery consumption: how can an app draw battery without using energy consumption hardware such as lcd, sd card and comms? I suggest that indicated values might not be real...

Mattster_spv said:
I think your poll says it all. 50:50 response, more or less.
At the end of the day, it all depends what you use your device for.
High application users can not expect their device to run well with Manila2D. That seems to be accepted by all ROM cooks. (It would be like a serious runner expecting to get good use out of a pair of Nikes, Pumas or Y3 Yamamotos - can't be done, even if they are up to 60% off).
Low application users can, however, enjoy Manila2D. With mpenguin's customiser tool, the possibilities for theme generation and customization are endless. That's why it's one of the busiest threads in here!
Mattster.
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hahaha, you are funny.
my point is vanilla rom is good, not manila rom

g77 said:
It's all about free RAM. Unfortunately we can't convert storage to free RAM.
Deactivate Manilla2D from your Settings>Today and reboot. Free ram increases from 23MB to 28MB. Also depends on the way you have HTC TaskManager configured. Services running in background like largetitlebar, htcvolume, sqm. NETCF3.5 and why didn't MSFT released it yet on wm6.1 and on newest builds.
Battery consumption: how can an app draw battery without using energy consumption hardware such as lcd, sd card and comms? I suggest that indicated values might not be real...
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g77 I do agree on your view, but the fact is, trinity will consume more power after we install some software, like S2U or Manila2D...... And I have seen many people report that.

I'm currently running "WWE_20755_Lite_Black_Pandora" found here.
It's not the LIGHTEST rom I've ever run, but it sure does run smoothly and quickly! I'm staying around 50% memory, and I have not found a bug yet. You can add all the apps you like or keep them out, it's up to you. It's using build 20755.
Great work Team CV93+Oggi !!

Manila uses too much resource!!!

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Manila uses too much resource!!!
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The one I link to above is Manila Free... Like I say, MUCH quicker running and More Memory. I do miss the Manila Interface, but my phone needs to be more reliable on a day to day basis. I'll still try Manila ROMs as they come out though.

SuperSport said:
I'm currently running "WWE_20755_Lite_Black_Pandora" found here.
It's not the LIGHTEST rom I've ever run, but it sure does run smoothly and quickly! I'm staying around 50% memory, and I have not found a bug yet. You can add all the apps you like or keep them out, it's up to you. It's using build 20755.
Great work Team CV93+Oggi !!
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Thanks Super Sport , However I would like to have your expert advice on the full manila2d version
Best regards

chanvi93 said:
Thanks Super Sport , However I would like to have your expert advice on the full manila2d version
Best regards
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Ok chanvi93,
I will admit, that out of all the Manila M2D ROMs that I tried, "WWE_M2D_BLUE_Pandora" was on my phone the longest. For those who wonder, it can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436424
It was the smoothest, with most things working for my needs. Of course that's just MY opinion, but for me it worked the best.
There are of course MANY Great ROMs out now, and I suggest everyone try them all to find the one that fits their needs. It's really fun to try each, and see if you can find workarounds for each of their little quirks. But so far, I cannot find any quirks in the "WWE_20755_Lite_Black_Pandora" version.
I hope this helped!

HI, I agree with ppl who talk about RAM, because i use tomtom and is dificult to use with manila in my trin.
(sorry my inglish)

I am just currently trying my first manilla rom- Karamba last. I liked it for the first few days as i was on holidays and not using it much- now i am back in the real world manila is just too resource hungry to work well. Cant run core player and mysporttraining at same time in gym, programs keep crashing on me.
I am going to try and disable manilla and try it with just spb mobile shell- i will give that a few days before i go to the lite rom mentioned above- that was my second option.....

I dont understand all these roms :(

hi all, if im right then my warrenty on my TP2 finishes in september.
So what im looking to do is stick a new cooked rom on there.
im pi55ed off with my phone because its sooo slow and it keeps failing on me but i dont want to get rid of it really because 99% of my friends either have crackberrys or ipoones and i want to be different.
i am a complete n00b with all the techy stuff like tweeking the phone.
I have a few questions for people with cooked roms
1 - what sort of memory does your rom run at?
2 - how long does your battery last and on what type of usage?
3 - do you need to keep doing soft re-sets?
4 - is your new rom quick and reliable?
5 - are all the features quick and realiable such as bluetooth?
i think thats it for now, i will start looking into the roms more from now on so i can hopefully just do it once and do it right the first time.
however if there are any chefs in london who are willing to build me a complete custom rom then PM me and we will discuss it further about the rom and pricing for your time ect...
THANKS in advance!!

1. The memory of some chef's ROMs can run as low as 40% on startup, moving up to about 50-60%. It depends. Look for the "lite" or "clean" ROMs for better memory.
2. The battery lasts me all day, heavy use through texting, phone calls, and internet. Using GPS, I'd imagine your battery would die fast, and phone calls don't seem to last longer than 3 hours before needing to be recharged.
3. Sadly, soft resets are needed for almost every WinMo device. That's the downside of all WinMo devices, though on the plus side, you get infinite customizability.
4. One of the most reliable ROMs with the most features is Valkyrie's ROM by Agent_47. I'm honestly no fanboy, but I have tried everyone else's ROMs, normal version, not lite or clean, and they all lack, or are crippled.
5. I don't use bluetooth, but wifi, phone signal, and GPS signal depend really on what radio you use. The different radios can be found in the ROM section. I use the most current one, .77, and I get good strength on all of the above.

thanks for the info, heres a bit more about my phone and its uage atm...
on the stock rom im using with using cleanram my phone runs around 60% - 70% but startup is just over 40%
Also i found my battery lasted 2 days when i had a 2gb card and now just over a day if im lucky with the 8gb card, so i may change it for a 4gb card which should be enough space for me.

Well, some clean and lite ROMs have as much as 80 MB free at start up (meaning, I believe that you would only have 20% on startup; any members can correct me if I'm wrong). I have only had 40% at most at startup, because I use feature packed ROMs.
I don't know anything about the SD card using more phone power, but you can give the 4 GB card a try. I get over 2 days on minimum usage with an 8 GB SD card. With max usage, as I said, I get about a full days use, with around 40-50% of battery life left.

also if anyone is local to me and wouldnt mind letting me have a quick play with there tp2 with a cooked rom to see how different it is to stock then please PM me

i went into a vodafone store today to double check about my warrenty, but after the 12 months manufacturer warrenty is over then vodafone have their own warrenty to cover the phone untill my contract is over.
now i know this im unsure if i should flash my rom now incase i do have anymore problems with the phone ??
what do you all suggest?

Just do the flash and get it over with You only have ONE first flash and then after that everything wont be as stressfull..
Also.. if you want to see what custom roms look like running on the phone just search for some custom roms on youtube. I'm sure you'll see some there. You'd get a more thurough view of what they do then if you were just bumbling around with it for 5 minutes on your own.

fair enough, i need to get my compuuter working then i guess to flash it!!

when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???

da9th_one said:
when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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Because custom ROM's don't have the critical "signature" that can only come from the manufacturer or carriers themselves. The stock SPL won't allow ROM's that don't have that signature, so that's why you have to replace SPL with a custom one when you want to flash ROM's issued by anybody than the carriers or HTC.

Sorry for the threadjack... but i was wondering the same things as the topic starter...
May i just add a few more questions?
*Roms like Energy, do they support BT and GPS?
*Is the problem with the sms lag (phone not waking on receiving) solved by a cooked rom?
*What are the major drawbacks when switching for standard to cooked? Ok the waranty is cancelled but anymore?
*I have a WWE version with WM6.5 ==> can i only install rom for 6.5 or can i install roms based on 6.1?
*I've looked at radios and the compatiblitylist... does this mean i have to install the wwe radio to get my device working?

feel free to ask questions here about roms ans im interested in the answers too

also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks

SMF_12 said:
also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.

I recently flashed deepshining x7 rom and I can't believe I waited so long. My TP2 feels faster and I love all the options available such as Cookie's home tabe editor and the such. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you flash. You can always flash back to the original if you don't like it.

sirphunkee said:
I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!

SMF_12 said:
I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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Here they are, just wanted to make sure we were thinking of the same things

thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums

SMF_12 said:
thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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You bet! And yeah, these are the first two cabs I recommend all new Rhodium owners run...I don't know if they'll clear up all your issues, but you should at least see a significant change in available RAM.

Ive just put them onto my phone and doing a soft reset!
Ive also changed to the windows today menu last night and its running a bit better with that!!

Slow performance after WM6.5 upgrade

Hi, I have a Verzion TP2 and finally took the plunge to do the VZW WM6.5 upgrade.
Bad decision! I'm experiencing really slow performance and reduced battery life.
I like some of the new features, but the slow performance is not acceptable.
Anyone have any good advice for speeding things up? I know disabling sense UI will help, but then it would just be another crappy WM UI phone.
I did some searching here and wasn't able to find much. (Admittedly I didn't spent tons of time looking.)
Help is greatly appreciated! TIA!

Just put a custom rom on your phone and most of your problems are solved. And believe me, you never want to go back to stock.

THanks for the info. Not certain that I want to go away from stock because my carrier (Verizon) may get quite cranky & not want to support me or service my phone if something goes wrong.

I have an unbranded European version of the phone on the UK Vodafone network, so I'm not sure how much help I can be. But I thought I would offer some advice based on my own experiences.
Firstly I assume the version of WM6.5 you upgraded to is the Sense 2.1 version and not Sense 2.5? I remember when I first upgraded I immediately noticed a big slowdown in comparison to the WM6.1 version which flew. If it's any help, you'll soon learn to live with the slowdown and eventually it will become "normal" and it's only when you downgrade you'll realise the difference.
In terms of speeding up the device there is not much you can do, apart from reduce the ram usage. There are a couple of cabs which significantly lower the ram usage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948
Secondly you might want to install an app called "memmaid" or "sktools" and disable certain processes and apps from starting up. Admittedly I don't really know what most of these processes do, but I've generally found these ones are ok to disable:
certenroll
notificationmanager
htcsipsrvc
gpsprivacy
softwaredisable
htcservices
dtpt
sqmupload
btagsvc
ssw
ussd
htcap
The same goes for startup applications where I have found these are ok to disable. (ignore the apps that are not installed on your device)
poutlook
speedbmonitor
delwmptempfolder
htcstartup
pkg
spbmobileshell (I have a switcher between this and Sense interface so dont need it on startup)
memmaidtweaks
superstarter.exe
Also, I remember seeing certain apps u can download from here that strip certain branded roms of all the bloatware. As my Touch Pro 2 is not branded, I've never used one and don't have any knowledge on them. But I'm sure someone on here will gladly point you in the right direction for a Verizon one. (If it indeed exists)
You might also want to install "advancedconfig" where you can tweak certain things in your phone to speed it up a bit.
I realise you don't want to go down the custom rom route, but unfortunately it may the only way to achieve what you want. I've now customised my official WM6.5 Sense 2.1 rom to how I want it (whilst waiting for my upgrade so I can switch to something like the HTC Desire on Android) and therefore don't use a custom rom, but I've tested the vast majority of the custom roms and I'm sure you'll find something you like. In your case, I'd suggest a hybrid of WM6.1 with the Sense 2.5 interface. If you can get your head around the lack of smooth scrolling in certain apps and what-not, you'll find a nice balance of speed and a very pretty sense 2.5 interface. (I personally couldn't get my head around it haha!)
I'd very much like to use a custom rom as I quite like Sense 2.5, but there was always a problem with the text message app. Be it the very slow "HTC Messaging" or the problem with the unread count after disabling it. I haven't tried a custom rom in a few months now so I'm not sure if this has been resolved. If so, can someone please let me know as I can't keep hard resetting my phone to test.
Anywayz good luck, and I hope this helped a bit. I don't come on this site too often but I will bookmark this page and try and remember to check it so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks fade to black for your well laid out response.
I am also waiting to upgrade to the Desire next month but I am not sure I want to get rid of my Touch pro 2. I am so used to the hardware keyboard plus even though I would have had the phone for 1 year by 30 July, it looks brand new. Carrying 2 smartphones about is not an option for me. I have also just had the screen replaced under warranty after it developed newton rings. HTC returned the phone with the latest WM6.5 i.e. with Sense 2.5 and it seems very smooth. No crashes or nothing since I have had it back about a week now.

You're very lucky then as I still have a year left on my contract :-( Lol..
Yeah losing the hardware keyboard is a bit worrying, but i've not had the HTC Wizard, then the Kaiser, and then the Touch Pro 2. So to be honest I'm quite looking forward to a "thin" device for once. Hopefully will be able to get used to the onscreen keyboard.
You could always try waiting a few more months until HTC release an android device with a keyboard? Tbh it's quite surprising how they haven't already.

@Fade2Black101 Thanks for the suggestions! I have begun looking at things and immediately went for disabling the push internet because my memory is a bit tight. Well, instead of installing the CAB file I went in to manually edit the registry and found that it was not enabled in my ROM. :-(
I'm going to try some of the other stuf you suggested, but have not had time as of yet.
I probably shouldn't be, but I am shocked that Verizon released an update that brings the phone to it's knees in terms of performance.

was there a noticable difference in ram usage after editing the push setting? I remember when I tried doing it manually and it didnt have the same effect as installing the cab. So unless you noticed a big change, i'd suggest using the cab.

I don't have Verizon, but, if the rom's out there for Verizon are like the GSM ones, you can probably download the "stock" Verizon Rom, in case you need warranty service. Just flash back to the stock version before returning it.
Of course, if you phone is unbootable, then, you're pretty much screwed
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THanks for the info. Not certain that I want to go away from stock because my carrier (Verizon) may get quite cranky & not want to support me or service my phone if something goes wrong.
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was there a noticable difference in ram usage after editing the push setting? I remember when I tried doing it manually and it didnt have the same effect as installing the cab. So unless you noticed a big change, i'd suggest using the cab.
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I checked the registry and the settings weren't even there except for one and it was set to disabled. Also when I check the task manager under processes, opera isn't there. So I'm pretty sure that push internet is not running on my phone.

'Optimising' the Touch Pro 2 (WITHOUT FLASHING!)

Ok, i cant flash my Orange branded Touch Pro 2. SOOOOOO....
I have searched for the absolutly best way to get the ultimate performance from my device. Whether its the Orange ROM (WM6.5) or some wee glitch with my phone, ive had issues. I find Sense slow and buggy and have been plagued with freezes and having to rest several times every day. Battery performance has been poor and in general a fantastic machine just wasnt cutting the mustard (even went back to my Kaiser for a while).
The problems seem to be common enough tbh.
Anyway with just a few differences my machine has become the chalk against the previous cheese. A hard rest and forgetting about Sense was the start. Ive replaced it with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.5. Combined with obvious backlight time adjustments, and a few 'Advanced Config' tweaks, my Touch Pro 2 has just become a different machine!
Much more smooth and resets just arent necessary.
Ive sacraficed Opera for the latest Opera Mini. More than adequate for my purposes and the interface is actually handier to use for people whos internet access is concentrated on just a few sites/ forums.
Im not on here advertising SPB by the way, just what ive found myself!
Unless you are a massive super user, i dont find the need for OCT or the like. I use MSM most of the day, regular Opera Mini, heavy SMS and occasional Word Mobile and find hte above arrangement brilliant.
Has anyone else any suggestions in the same vein that can help even more?? I am, and im sure most users are, open to minor tweaks. Flashing is a no go.
Q

I prefer CHT with OCT. My device absolutely flies. When it begins to lag a bit after using more than 5 apps, I just CleanRAM custom. Works like a charm. I have found that the device will work at maximum performance when installing everything to the Storage Card. Having all the RAM available for the OS keeps it faster for me. It seems that there is a performance difference when you have 70Gb as opposed to 50Gb. CleanRAM really is the greatest thing for this device.
I tried SPB Shell a few months ago, but I think CHT is much better. Theres way more customization and I find it easier to navigate. You just put your favorite apps in 3 pages. The Shell had things needlessly in different locations and into sub categories. It just didn't suit me.

use these roms. energy reference or titanium. theyre smooth and easy
http://hotfile.com/list/599461/c264c05

Quincey113 said:
Ok, i cant flash my Orange branded Touch Pro 2. SOOOOOO....
I have searched for
.... .....
most users are, open to minor tweaks. Flashing is a no go.
Q
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use these roms. energy reference or titanium. theyre smooth and easy
http://hotfile.com/list/599461/c264c05
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lol
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I was trying to use a modded HTC Home plugin with HTC Home Customizer but ran up against too many problems, so I've returned to Sense for now. I'm hoping to flash a new ROM sometime soon, once I've reinstalled XP and 7 on my PC (I've only got Vista left as running normally, and dislike it too much to rely on it). I've also installed SPB shell on my wife's Acer e200, so was considering it, but I want to finish running some tests with the graphics drivers available here, with sense vs. sense turned off and some minor media playback issues first.

oh, i should have said. flashing is pretty much ur only way to improve what you want.
soooo.... if flash is a no go... new device maybe?