hi all, if im right then my warrenty on my TP2 finishes in september.
So what im looking to do is stick a new cooked rom on there.
im pi55ed off with my phone because its sooo slow and it keeps failing on me but i dont want to get rid of it really because 99% of my friends either have crackberrys or ipoones and i want to be different.
i am a complete n00b with all the techy stuff like tweeking the phone.
I have a few questions for people with cooked roms
1 - what sort of memory does your rom run at?
2 - how long does your battery last and on what type of usage?
3 - do you need to keep doing soft re-sets?
4 - is your new rom quick and reliable?
5 - are all the features quick and realiable such as bluetooth?
i think thats it for now, i will start looking into the roms more from now on so i can hopefully just do it once and do it right the first time.
however if there are any chefs in london who are willing to build me a complete custom rom then PM me and we will discuss it further about the rom and pricing for your time ect...
THANKS in advance!!
1. The memory of some chef's ROMs can run as low as 40% on startup, moving up to about 50-60%. It depends. Look for the "lite" or "clean" ROMs for better memory.
2. The battery lasts me all day, heavy use through texting, phone calls, and internet. Using GPS, I'd imagine your battery would die fast, and phone calls don't seem to last longer than 3 hours before needing to be recharged.
3. Sadly, soft resets are needed for almost every WinMo device. That's the downside of all WinMo devices, though on the plus side, you get infinite customizability.
4. One of the most reliable ROMs with the most features is Valkyrie's ROM by Agent_47. I'm honestly no fanboy, but I have tried everyone else's ROMs, normal version, not lite or clean, and they all lack, or are crippled.
5. I don't use bluetooth, but wifi, phone signal, and GPS signal depend really on what radio you use. The different radios can be found in the ROM section. I use the most current one, .77, and I get good strength on all of the above.
thanks for the info, heres a bit more about my phone and its uage atm...
on the stock rom im using with using cleanram my phone runs around 60% - 70% but startup is just over 40%
Also i found my battery lasted 2 days when i had a 2gb card and now just over a day if im lucky with the 8gb card, so i may change it for a 4gb card which should be enough space for me.
Well, some clean and lite ROMs have as much as 80 MB free at start up (meaning, I believe that you would only have 20% on startup; any members can correct me if I'm wrong). I have only had 40% at most at startup, because I use feature packed ROMs.
I don't know anything about the SD card using more phone power, but you can give the 4 GB card a try. I get over 2 days on minimum usage with an 8 GB SD card. With max usage, as I said, I get about a full days use, with around 40-50% of battery life left.
also if anyone is local to me and wouldnt mind letting me have a quick play with there tp2 with a cooked rom to see how different it is to stock then please PM me
i went into a vodafone store today to double check about my warrenty, but after the 12 months manufacturer warrenty is over then vodafone have their own warrenty to cover the phone untill my contract is over.
now i know this im unsure if i should flash my rom now incase i do have anymore problems with the phone ??
what do you all suggest?
Just do the flash and get it over with You only have ONE first flash and then after that everything wont be as stressfull..
Also.. if you want to see what custom roms look like running on the phone just search for some custom roms on youtube. I'm sure you'll see some there. You'd get a more thurough view of what they do then if you were just bumbling around with it for 5 minutes on your own.
fair enough, i need to get my compuuter working then i guess to flash it!!
when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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Because custom ROM's don't have the critical "signature" that can only come from the manufacturer or carriers themselves. The stock SPL won't allow ROM's that don't have that signature, so that's why you have to replace SPL with a custom one when you want to flash ROM's issued by anybody than the carriers or HTC.
Sorry for the threadjack... but i was wondering the same things as the topic starter...
May i just add a few more questions?
*Roms like Energy, do they support BT and GPS?
*Is the problem with the sms lag (phone not waking on receiving) solved by a cooked rom?
*What are the major drawbacks when switching for standard to cooked? Ok the waranty is cancelled but anymore?
*I have a WWE version with WM6.5 ==> can i only install rom for 6.5 or can i install roms based on 6.1?
*I've looked at radios and the compatiblitylist... does this mean i have to install the wwe radio to get my device working?
feel free to ask questions here about roms ans im interested in the answers too
also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
I recently flashed deepshining x7 rom and I can't believe I waited so long. My TP2 feels faster and I love all the options available such as Cookie's home tabe editor and the such. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you flash. You can always flash back to the original if you don't like it.
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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Here they are, just wanted to make sure we were thinking of the same things
thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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You bet! And yeah, these are the first two cabs I recommend all new Rhodium owners run...I don't know if they'll clear up all your issues, but you should at least see a significant change in available RAM.
Ive just put them onto my phone and doing a soft reset!
Ive also changed to the windows today menu last night and its running a bit better with that!!
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Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.
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Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.
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u have to load each because each user here may have a different experience with each because for me one rom maybe perfect next person may crash left and right and so on so only way to know is trying each like i like pvh 19400 although am now trying pvh19900
To a fellow OK State alumn, I have tested at least a dozen different 6.1 ROMS and this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
has been the cleanest, fastest, and most stable one for me. Just add the applications you want.
Much thanks! Yea thats the one i was toying around with. There are so many apps out there. I dont know where to start. and which ones would tailor towards my use.
i downloaded and tried them all,
Quite happy with the one ive got now, many have loads of apps but you start to loose available RAM when that happens.
best just to try a few and see which one best suits what you want to do, suggestion though is to keep your PIM and other things backed up incase you need to do a hard reset in the event of a freeze
Just keep on this forum as often as you can. It took me months to find out what I wanted and what worked. Just be patient and play around. It is more of a hobby to me than anything.
less questions and read read read the thread posts!! try a few with features u like! all the cooks have great roms if u know how to use them....
Best ROM
I have install and test almost all the WM 6.1 ROMS.
Like the other guys say you really have to test out a ROM as you might like some features over others.
In my time i have found the following:
TNT ROM WM6.1 to be the best all rounder - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376945
Only thing i don't like about it is the startup speed. Every with the animation disabled and the network auto config it still makes a good long while.
Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favourite ROM so far but does not come with many applications
im using pays rom 6.1, use it for a month now. stable and quite fast
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Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favorite ROM so far but does not come with many applications
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Its what I have and his review is spot on. Its very fast, probably the fastest I have ever used and incredibly fast startup time. It was missing many of the programs I like but thankfully I already had them on my storage card from playing with a Schaps Lite ROM a while back. I think my last changes will be a flashlight software like vjcandela and something better for BT transfers but all in all this is a great ROM and will definitely keep me happy until the next Schaps is released.
I like PDAViet build 19900... It is SOOOOOOOOO fast and had a remarkable 28Mb of ram left after installing it with almost 70Mb storage memory. Now down to about 25MB ram and 45Mb storage as I've put a heap of 3rd party apps on...Cheers...
the last Binky 6.1 WM 3.5 is a great slim one and you have the possibility to install your own apps after flashing
but guys, I can't beam files using the f***ing IR port... anyidea about it?
any benifts to 6.5 on jan 20 ...campared to 6.1
heh?
heh? can you give more details about your question?
He's talking about the WinMo 6.5 upgrade for T-Mobile that is scheduled for official release on 1/20. It's the same leaked one that has been floating around for the last week or so.
To answer the question, I was running it for about 4-5 days. It's a solid ROM, but it's nothing to brag about. It's actually a little slower than most cooked ROMs offered in this forum. If you haven't done HardSPL and tried a cooked ROM, I would suggest doing so. You can always re-SPL/lock your phone if you need to return it for warranty purposes, and now that there is an official T-Mobile ROM you can just re-SPL/lock and then flash the 6.5 T-Mobile ROM to send it back.
T-mobile already official released WM 6.5 two days ago, (it is the same one leaked few weeks ago), see here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1611377
It is a very crappy ROM
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T-mobile already official released WM 6.5 two days ago, (it is the same one leaked few weeks ago), see here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1611377
It is a very crappy ROM
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It's the official version, I'm sure, but it's not officially released until it shows up here: Windows Mobile Upgrade. The fact that the link is hidden -- i.e., it's not published on T-Mobile's website nor on HTC's website -- means that they haven't released it.
I don't think it's crappy. Sure, that's a matter of opinion...but I've been running custom roms for months that are well beyond T-Mo's WM6.5, and I have to say it's not bad.
I like the new Tmo rom out now but in time will look at some other roms. Just want to make sure that the official go gets my official go lol. I can tell some effort was put into it so its not bad at all.
Looks to be legit, I stand corrected.
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Its not the official T-Mobile Rom because it doesn't have the T-Mobile Logo on the Startup animation which means it still needs to be updated if only to add that. Who knows what else might be added or removed. Until then its a prerelease.
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The one I flashed from the hidden-official link (not the leaked link of 7-Jan) has the "Stick Together" boot screen...which is T-Mo USA.
My phone didn't have that boot screen...lost it months ago when I first flashed a custom (WWE) rom.
ive been running it now since it was leaked, and I love it.... Im staying on this rom more than likely, but I want to try a custom rom, as its been a while since I flashed any cooked ones........... Of topic but whats a good leo 6.5.3 rom with the least bugs???????? Anyone??????????
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ive been running it now since it was leaked, and I love it.... Im staying on this rom more than likely, but I want to try a custom rom, as its been a while since I flashed any cooked ones........... Of topic but whats a good leo 6.5.3 rom with the least bugs???????? Anyone??????????
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Keep flashing...keep reading...it all depends on what your taste is like, and what you use your phone for!
i hate hearing keep flashing and reading..... Lol read any thread on any custom rom and its nothing but issues..... Im not into taste, I want stability, if ya cant suggest that, please dont suggest the obvious which ive already done, just wondering if anyone could steer in the right bugless rom direction....... But ill do what I always do, read and get discouraged from all the complaints........ thanks
I've been running the leaked rom for about 1 week now and so far it's a little slower than the stock 6.1 rom. Probably because it consumes more resources. My memory is always around 60% when it used to be 50% on the old rom.
The bugs i've found were:
I'm getting will not wake from standby about 1-3 times a day.
Music will not play after a soft reboot or after connected to the PC in Mass Storage Mode. It seems the media is scanning in the background but there's no message saying so. It would take about 20 mins before a file can be played for 6gigs of music.
Looking to install the new Rom, it's official now.
I've been using Timor for the past month or so and I've loved it. Very fast and Very stable. I've only had a couple problems where it freezes in the transition from texting to the home screen. Other than that it's my fav so far.
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i hate hearing keep flashing and reading..... Lol read any thread on any custom rom and its nothing but issues..... Im not into taste, I want stability, if ya cant suggest that, please dont suggest the obvious which ive already done, just wondering if anyone could steer in the right bugless rom direction....... But ill do what I always do, read and get discouraged from all the complaints........ thanks
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The cooked ROMs off of this site have worked out better for me than the stock ones. If I find something that doesn't work I can complain about it and the chef get around to fixing the problem. Try getting T-Mobile to fix something and then post it in a decent amount of time.
In my view, cooked ROMS are way way ahead of stock roms, be they wm6.1 or wm6.5.
The stock built ROMS are too "flat", less imaginative and too much of light weights for devices with unlimited potential like my tp2.
I just gotta say that temperbad does have a point. As someone who likes to hear technical issues as well rather than personal thoughts, it can be a bit frustrating to be trying to get some real bugs, issues with a ROM and have to wade throught comments about colors of screens, and how nice the buttons look. I wanna know a) what goes wrong, b) how does it happen, c) is there a fix. Whether the start menu seems shinier than others is irrelevant to me. Perhaps others feel the same?
well i flashed the 6.5 ...its ok ,i like it ...but nothing extra special about it ...the 6.1 was almost the same...all they did was add a few extra features and colors...with my original 6.1 i could get the same cabs of this site,but it is stable...my next move would be flashing a cooked rom ...but i dont now which one till i read the bourd
Flash It!
I flashed it about a week ago and I really, really like it. The RAM usage IS slightly higher, but I would think that's to be expected. But IMO, the new ROM is faster than the old stock 6.1 ROM I was using. Very stable and no freezes and the like, and that is after adding a couple thousand contacts, syncing a gazillion text messages, and adding a boatload of programs. Plus WM 6.5 is negligibly better aesthetically than 6.1....but better nonetheless.
The plan was to try the stock ROM along with a couple other custom ROMs on the same day...but I've been really satisfied with the stock ROM. Which the exception of Sense 2.5, I personally don't know what I'm missing with the custom ROMs...but I'd love it if someone would tell me specifically what that is.
On the same note, as a new member to this site, I love the forum format for FAQ's and such, but I really wish the site was easier to filter through. For instance, I considered flashing a "Energy" ROM. After deciphering the thread topics and finding his kitchen, then seeing that that there were about a million posts in the thread, I just got lazy and stuck with the stock ROM What if each cook had a "store" that he or she controlled with multiple threads in his store for each ROM and iteration of them...? Though I'm new to this community, I don't believe you would sacrifice the essence of the site with more usability. I guess that would take some web developers and additional resources so it's probably wishful thinking. But since they're talking about bringing in non-HTC phones I don't think it should be out of the question.
I also didn't realize initially that a lot of the themes, task bars, ROM's, software, and etc that are compatible with the TP2 are actually in other phone forums that run WM 6.1+ and Sense UI. Then of course, there's the generic applications and themes forums. It can be a bit much at times if you're anal like me and you want a certain clock and a specific taskbar. I don't mind searching at all, but try a search for "transparent clock" or "htc taskbar" only if you're brave...
ANYHOO *back on the trail* I like the new TMO 6.5 ROM. I don't have any benchmark tests or anything, but it "feels" faster to me. And far as I can tell, some of the cooked ROMs are stock ROMs with built in themes, minus bloatware, added tweaks, and built in software. I do all that stuff myself anyways
Try b16b's roms, 6.5.3 leo is awesome least buggiest one for me, and I've tried them all (even the legendary energy roms). You just need to install leo 2g dialer I think because the dialer will be missing, oh and it uses x2 task mgr (no task mgr in others 6.5.1 roms) and Ms stock msg. You'll be missing alot of things but you can always add it, I did.
no thanks he needs to finish the rom ...so we dont have to add cab files
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
You'll find LOTS of tweaks here. Start searching and reading...
For me the most noticable speed improvements came from:
Turn off ClearType.
Disable PushInternet.
Don't use sense (I use SPB mobile Shell).
There are many others that will have more subtle effects. Like I said, start reading...
turn off sense, use titanium, or some other light weight replacement
i used iPhoneToday and use it to replace Sense, it freed up 20mb program memory on my TP2 and everything is just a lot smoother.
Non of the custom roms are fast enough for me with Sense on.
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I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
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Jack, go ahead and run the two cabs I have attached here, they'll do a lot to improve the memory management on your TP2. That will help the phone free up resources when an app or program is done with them. The first one is one of the 3 things that IMissPalmOS mentioned above ("no push internet").
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I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
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Welcome to forums
if you don´t mind to loose Sense and you want to really increase speed and performance go and flash a WM6.1 cooked ROM
That way your Rhodium will fly!!
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Jack, go ahead and run the two cabs I have attached here, they'll do a lot to improve the memory management on your TP2. That will help the phone free up resources when an app or program is done with them. The first one is one of the 3 things that IMissPalmOS mentioned above ("no push internet").
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Thanks for those. I remember seeing those cabs before but wasn't sure what they did. I'm still not really sure what they do but tried them anyway and they did free up some ram.
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Thanks for those. I remember seeing those cabs before but wasn't sure what they did. I'm still not really sure what they do but tried them anyway and they did free up some ram.
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The "no push internet" cab turns off the real-time cacheing of web data, and the "dynamic resource proxy" makes a simple registry change that lets the phone free up memory better when apps and processes are done using it.
HTC released a signed rom with sense 2.5 that is the fastest overall rom I have ever used. It just flies man. I use the European version but my buddy told me they released an American version recently. Either one will work just the same. This rom can be found in the rom developement section or on HTC's site. You wont be dissapointed. The only thing I added was duttys task manager because they didnt include it with the rom. Im talking about the task manager in the upper right hand corner. Here is the cab for that if you decide to flash that rom. I highly reccomend it cause of the speed and stability. Its the best. PM me if you have any questions.
thanks
hey guys thanks for the advise i was having the same issues with enery rom its so full of stuff that it bogs down now and then these tweeks helped alot
hey i tried installing these cabs but it didn't really speed up my phone? did i do something wrong?
how do i turn off cleartype?
Rom Version 1.20.531.4 WM6.1
Thank you to everyone!
I download the two cab files and they helped speed up my T-Mobile TP2.
I was wondering? I have rom version 1.20.534.4 and would like to keep WM6.1. Am I able to upgrade my rom while keeping WM6.1 and is it worth while?
Thank you in advance for any useful information!
Giovanni
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Need help with slow downloading speed!
I have a t-mobile touch pro 2 running Windows 6.5 and already tweaked it with regedit and did the overclock cab and doing fine at 768. Yes the phone is much faster responding but downloading is still too slow. Did a hard reset days before the tweaks and was downloading fast then just slowed down again so I tried the tweaks to help but no success, can anyone help
gotta say I was about to give up on my Tp2 after years of loyal service, just felt so pokey next to my wifes HTC Incredible.
Then I decided what the hell, since I was gonna bail on it anyway I tried (for the first time) HardSPL and a custom rom, in this case MightyROM.
Anyway, its faster, a *lot* faster than any stock VZW rom I ever had (and due to my faithfulness to the TP2 platform Ive tried em all over the years) and it seems very optimized for speed. The only caveat is that it uses the WM6.5 start menu instead of the usual HTC one but that was no big deal for me, and Im sure helps reduce overhead. The phone boots up with 45%-50% memory used, compared to the usual 65% on the VZW roms.
So looks like I'll keep this a while longer, thanks MightyMike! Wish Id tried flashing a long time ago!
PS: I tried WinMoSpeed before flashing and noticed little diff, even @768.
MightyRom is definitely noticeably faster in comparison.
The TP2 is old...It's life is over...get a new phone and move on...
I still have one and my screen is cracked but, there is nothing in Windows Mobile that Verizon has that is any good right now, so Asurion cant help right now
Hi, I have a Verzion TP2 and finally took the plunge to do the VZW WM6.5 upgrade.
Bad decision! I'm experiencing really slow performance and reduced battery life.
I like some of the new features, but the slow performance is not acceptable.
Anyone have any good advice for speeding things up? I know disabling sense UI will help, but then it would just be another crappy WM UI phone.
I did some searching here and wasn't able to find much. (Admittedly I didn't spent tons of time looking.)
Help is greatly appreciated! TIA!
Just put a custom rom on your phone and most of your problems are solved. And believe me, you never want to go back to stock.
THanks for the info. Not certain that I want to go away from stock because my carrier (Verizon) may get quite cranky & not want to support me or service my phone if something goes wrong.
I have an unbranded European version of the phone on the UK Vodafone network, so I'm not sure how much help I can be. But I thought I would offer some advice based on my own experiences.
Firstly I assume the version of WM6.5 you upgraded to is the Sense 2.1 version and not Sense 2.5? I remember when I first upgraded I immediately noticed a big slowdown in comparison to the WM6.1 version which flew. If it's any help, you'll soon learn to live with the slowdown and eventually it will become "normal" and it's only when you downgrade you'll realise the difference.
In terms of speeding up the device there is not much you can do, apart from reduce the ram usage. There are a couple of cabs which significantly lower the ram usage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948
Secondly you might want to install an app called "memmaid" or "sktools" and disable certain processes and apps from starting up. Admittedly I don't really know what most of these processes do, but I've generally found these ones are ok to disable:
certenroll
notificationmanager
htcsipsrvc
gpsprivacy
softwaredisable
htcservices
dtpt
sqmupload
btagsvc
ssw
ussd
htcap
The same goes for startup applications where I have found these are ok to disable. (ignore the apps that are not installed on your device)
poutlook
speedbmonitor
delwmptempfolder
htcstartup
pkg
spbmobileshell (I have a switcher between this and Sense interface so dont need it on startup)
memmaidtweaks
superstarter.exe
Also, I remember seeing certain apps u can download from here that strip certain branded roms of all the bloatware. As my Touch Pro 2 is not branded, I've never used one and don't have any knowledge on them. But I'm sure someone on here will gladly point you in the right direction for a Verizon one. (If it indeed exists)
You might also want to install "advancedconfig" where you can tweak certain things in your phone to speed it up a bit.
I realise you don't want to go down the custom rom route, but unfortunately it may the only way to achieve what you want. I've now customised my official WM6.5 Sense 2.1 rom to how I want it (whilst waiting for my upgrade so I can switch to something like the HTC Desire on Android) and therefore don't use a custom rom, but I've tested the vast majority of the custom roms and I'm sure you'll find something you like. In your case, I'd suggest a hybrid of WM6.1 with the Sense 2.5 interface. If you can get your head around the lack of smooth scrolling in certain apps and what-not, you'll find a nice balance of speed and a very pretty sense 2.5 interface. (I personally couldn't get my head around it haha!)
I'd very much like to use a custom rom as I quite like Sense 2.5, but there was always a problem with the text message app. Be it the very slow "HTC Messaging" or the problem with the unread count after disabling it. I haven't tried a custom rom in a few months now so I'm not sure if this has been resolved. If so, can someone please let me know as I can't keep hard resetting my phone to test.
Anywayz good luck, and I hope this helped a bit. I don't come on this site too often but I will bookmark this page and try and remember to check it so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Thanks fade to black for your well laid out response.
I am also waiting to upgrade to the Desire next month but I am not sure I want to get rid of my Touch pro 2. I am so used to the hardware keyboard plus even though I would have had the phone for 1 year by 30 July, it looks brand new. Carrying 2 smartphones about is not an option for me. I have also just had the screen replaced under warranty after it developed newton rings. HTC returned the phone with the latest WM6.5 i.e. with Sense 2.5 and it seems very smooth. No crashes or nothing since I have had it back about a week now.
You're very lucky then as I still have a year left on my contract :-( Lol..
Yeah losing the hardware keyboard is a bit worrying, but i've not had the HTC Wizard, then the Kaiser, and then the Touch Pro 2. So to be honest I'm quite looking forward to a "thin" device for once. Hopefully will be able to get used to the onscreen keyboard.
You could always try waiting a few more months until HTC release an android device with a keyboard? Tbh it's quite surprising how they haven't already.
@Fade2Black101 Thanks for the suggestions! I have begun looking at things and immediately went for disabling the push internet because my memory is a bit tight. Well, instead of installing the CAB file I went in to manually edit the registry and found that it was not enabled in my ROM. :-(
I'm going to try some of the other stuf you suggested, but have not had time as of yet.
I probably shouldn't be, but I am shocked that Verizon released an update that brings the phone to it's knees in terms of performance.
was there a noticable difference in ram usage after editing the push setting? I remember when I tried doing it manually and it didnt have the same effect as installing the cab. So unless you noticed a big change, i'd suggest using the cab.
I don't have Verizon, but, if the rom's out there for Verizon are like the GSM ones, you can probably download the "stock" Verizon Rom, in case you need warranty service. Just flash back to the stock version before returning it.
Of course, if you phone is unbootable, then, you're pretty much screwed
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THanks for the info. Not certain that I want to go away from stock because my carrier (Verizon) may get quite cranky & not want to support me or service my phone if something goes wrong.
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was there a noticable difference in ram usage after editing the push setting? I remember when I tried doing it manually and it didnt have the same effect as installing the cab. So unless you noticed a big change, i'd suggest using the cab.
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I checked the registry and the settings weren't even there except for one and it was set to disabled. Also when I check the task manager under processes, opera isn't there. So I'm pretty sure that push internet is not running on my phone.
Hi,
shame on me- at first: pleace be patient with me. I dont want anyone make my work. Its just that my native language is german and I dont understand a few things. So please help me to find the correct tutorials and give me some tips.
i own an HTC Touch pro 2, bought at an O2 store in Germany, using with t-mobile and an limited dataplan (200 mb, HSDPA, 3G and stuff) S/n: HT98ELLXXXXX (Detail per private message if neccasarry)
Actual ROM Version: 1.89.207.2 (69719) GER
ROM avaible (i already have downloaded following ROMs)
_HTC Touch Pro2_RUU_Rhodium_S2_O2_DE_2.07.207.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship downloaded from HTC.com
RUU_Rhodium_S2_HTC_Europe_2.07.401.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship (Downloaded as written in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571892&highlight=WP7
Now i need to download the DeepShining X10.23135 - but i dont know if com2 or com3 ?!
I dont need my phone to be in german but if possible it would be ok. i saw in the FAQ, that changing the language could cause crashes. thats ok, i guess my english would be good enough.
so here the questions in numeric order as i need them:
1: Do i need to download the com3 or the com2 version? or is that depending on what i want? What i want is a stable System, a good battery life and a good menue-control.
2: Do i need to flash the original O2 Version i downloaded first or can I just start with step 2 of the description in the DeepShining Post?
3: Following sentences i dont understand exactly: IF YOU HAVE A CDMA DEVICE THEN GO *HERE* FOR INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO HARDSPL and *FLASH HARDSPL BEFORE FLASHING ANY CUSTOM ROMS*
What is an CDMA Device and what is HARDSPL?
If i follow the steps in deepshine thread- how dangerous would it be to flash my phone? its my only one and i need it very much. But at this time it often crashes on incoming calls and in many other situations.
Again: Please be patient. its all about my language. I just dont know what to look for using search engines or the built in search of this forum. You can help me step by step or just give me the correct posts and threads wich have already been written here. I just want to be absolutly sure, i will not kill my phone. I am an advaced PC User and i have some experiences in flashing other phones, so i know there always is an risk, but i want it as low as possible.
Thanks for your help folks.
sincerly, Alexander, Bochum Germany
CDMA is a type of network, used by some carriers in the US, and a few other countries. Germany is GSM, so no need to worry about CDMA stuff.
You MUST run HardSPL if you want to flash a custom ROM. HardSPL unlocks the SPL on your phone, which allows you to flash custom ROMs. Without running HardSPL, your phone will only allow you to flash "official" or "stock" ROMs released by your cell carrier.
Your phone is GSM, so use the HardSPL posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
As for more specific questions about the DeepShining ROMs, you should post your question on the thread for that ROM, and somebody will likely respond pretty quickly. I don't use DeepShining, so I can't help you with specific questions about that ROM, unfortunately.
Cool- thank you. Well- what do you use? any suggestions wich ROMs are useful? Most stable, good battery life, unsigned apps, daily use of internet by phone but only for services wich dont need highspeed like a messaging-program like IM+ or palringi- thats how i use my phone.
I use the Energy ROM. Its one of the most popular, and most frequently updated ROMs. It tends a bit on the eye-candy/appearance side, and has a decent number of cooked-in apps, but is still pretty fast, and I've found it to be very stable. But I've heard good things about DeepShining, and some people on here prefer it to Energy. I think DeepShining is a bit more "lightweight" and faster, but it all depends on what you are looking for in a ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
Coincidentally, NRG is today in the process of uploading the latest versions of his ROM. This release is the first time he is including languages other than English, and German is on top of the list. Don't think the other language versions are up yet, but they should be soon. The thread still says Sept. 8, but the new release is Sept. 13 and 14 (it usually takes him a bit to change the date and update the Change Log).
Uhm- now i am really confused. it sounds great, it looks great, but i cant find the download link of the latest version. there is so much with cookie, max sense and all these stuff.
The GUI in post #3 looks pretty good. so waht did you download? I am really so sorry for an question this dumb Its just the language barrier as i said, hehe.
another noob question now that you help me that good if i dont like it after patching, can i just install another rom of the 3 energy roms? right now i am downloading the actual 24634 of DinikGlass but i guess i will also try the cookie energy one
and do i need to install any other rom first before flashing the energy rom?
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Uhm- now i am really confused. it sounds great, it looks great, but i cant find the download link of the latest version. there is so much with cookie, max sense and all these stuff.
The GUI in post #3 looks pretty good. so waht did you download? I am really so sorry for an question this dumb Its just the language barrier as i said, hehe.
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The Cookie versions include the Cookie Home Tab and CHT Editor (user made mods), which gives you great customization options for the Sense Home Tab. It does use up a good amount of program memory and may slow your phone a bit, so some people don't like it. But I really like it. The GTX and Dinik are just different themes (colors, icons, etc.) of what is basically the same ROM.
Standard Energy includes Sense, but not Cookies Home Tab. Standard Reference is close to stock, but really stripped down of apps, bloatware. Titanium is without Sense, so really stripped down and fast.
MaxSense is a user made mod that is similar to Android version of Sense. The home tab is 3 screens wide, and you can swipe side to side between the 3 screens, add widget similar to Android. I tried this for a while, and it has some cool features, but I didn't like how the taskbar in the home tab (special MaxSense taskbar) was different from everywhere else (other tabs, while apps are open, etc.).
I am using the Cookie GTX-themed version, mostly because I like the aesthetics of the GTX (white colored) theme, and I like the Cookie mod. I've mostly been using the Cookie GTX-themed version for several months now (updating to the newest release every month or 2, in general).
If you click the download link, and the latest release (Sept. 13/14) of your preferred version is not there yet, just be patient, and it will be there soon. If you want to try the German version, I assume those will be appropriately named with "German" in the file name.
Hope that helps, good luck!
i will give it a try. first i will check the cookie version of the last 23138 release sept. 13th. well... hope that works fine. if not i can change it anytime to a different rom, correct? i will let you know if i git it or not. the hard-spl alreadyx is working.
so thanks again for your help. talk to you later.
It is amazing. the installation was simple- to set up is simple too and it looks great. ok- it seems to be a little slow, but i can live with that i guess. great stuff - perfect work.
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another noob question now that you help me that good if i dont like it after patching, can i just install another rom of the 3 energy roms? right now i am downloading the actual 24634 of DinikGlass but i guess i will also try the cookie energy one
and do i need to install any other rom first before flashing the energy rom?
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If you don't like one of the Energy ROMs, you can just flash a new one. But I always run Task29 before flashing a new ROM. Task29 wipes/formats the phones memory, to make sure that no fragments of the old ROM remain to cause bugs with the new ROM. This has been known to solve some random bugs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
The Energy ROM does not require flashing the stock ROM, before flashing the Energy ROM. I've flashed different versions of Energy maybe 5-6 times without flashing the stock first, with no issues. But it seems that DeepShining requires flashing the stock ROM first (or at least strongly recommends it). I think this can be ROM specific, so follow the instructions given for the ROM you are flashing.
Thanks man, pretty good help. Especially the Task29 thing becaUSE I DIDNT KNOW WHAT THIS COULD MEAN ,9 WELL- I FLASHED THE ENERGY COOKIE WITHOUT DOING THAT AND IT WORKED BUT IT SEEMS TO NEED MUCH POWER AND ITS A LIL SLOW SO I WILL REFLASH THE SAME ROM WITH FORMATTING BEFORE: WELL; ENERGY IS SO DAMNED GREAT:
ups- didnt want to shout
so, back 2 topic. the rom is really great. much good functions and tools and very nice look. i guess i would try the white one too.
thanks again. now i am fit to do it.
It takes a while for the new ROM to settle in. So the immediate performance is not a good indicator of how fast/smooth the ROM will be. Let it run for an hour or so. Also, immediately after a flash, I hard reset, just to make sure you are starting clean. Some instructions for flashing say to do this, while some others don't. But it really can't hurt anything, and it might help.
Also, the battery meter is not very accurate whenever your flash or hard reset. So the battery life you are reading is not true. You need to "re-calibrate" the battery meter by charging to 100% (let it stay on the charger for a while to make sure the battery is really full) then run it down to 0%, until it shuts off automatically. Do this at least once of twice. Then your battery meter will be calibrated to what "full" and "empty" actually mean (battery voltage).
Also, turn down your backlight. It really drains the battery when at the "automatic" setting and 100% brightness. In the "Settings" tab, do to "Sound & Display", select Backlight, uncheck "Automatically adjust backlight". Then turn down the Brightness to your preferred setting. I find 60% to be very readable, but significantly increases battery life.
There are tons of other tricks to increase battery lift and speed, so play around.
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then run it down to 0%
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Very, very bad idea. In deed, it does recalibrate the battery, but it also reduces it's life cycles. I wouldn't recommend discharging the battery under 20%.
Jackos said:
Very, very bad idea. In deed, it does recalibrate the battery, but it also reduces it's life cycles. I wouldn't recommend discharging the battery under 20%.
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I've read that draining the battery may cause it to not take a charge (particularly over USB), but I haven't heard that it reduces life cycles. If you can explain a bit more, it would be appreciated.
EDIT: After poking around some, I've found a couple tidbits:
Avoid frequent full discharges because this puts additional strain on the battery.
If possible, do not discharge lithium-based batteries too deeply. Instead, recharge more often.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
So probably a good idea to follow Jacko's advice. I would think that charging full, then drain to 20% is okay in order to calibrate the battery meter.
Thanks for the tip, Jacko.
Hey folks,
thanks for the tips. The most of them i already did i am not new to mobile phones and custom operating systems, just new to custom wm roms. Well, in fact this battery thing about not to discharge it totally is a pretty good tip. i alway thought contrary to that.
good to know. well, today, after i have charged it to 100% it seems to be ok. same good than before and thats ok. in fact i need a new battery one time i guess. so the result:
i will stay with this rom. first try : match! it is so great, i cant believe it. the original roms o2 deliveres are pretty old and uncomftable. well- the german are. if its the same everywhere i dont know. i love it and my english is good enough.
the only problem i didnt solve right now: the hardware keyboard have the wrong layout- its english and so the @ for example is not where it should be. i didnt find the correct section in system settings. any suggestions?
well- anyway: thanks for your help.
EDIT: One thing left beside the keyboard thing: I have an stereo bluetooth headset, it can pair and connect the handsfree connection but there is no way to connect in stereo mode. is there a setting anywhere to authorize that ? it seems i am missing something
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You have to change the following Registry entry from:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayouFiles]
"07FF"="eT9.Rhodium.wwe.kmap.txt"
to:
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayouFiles]
"07FF"="eT9.Rhodium.0407.kmap.txt"
Hope, that this would help you!
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That helped me after trying arround with the currlang value and stuff just in case someone looks here to find an solution.
another noob question- i was looking for why to upgrade the radio version. didnt find an answer i couldnt understand.
any suggestions if i should and what radio rom i should use? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
Version: 4.49.25.88 (HTC, T-Mobile) or maybe Version: 4.49.25.91 ?! i am a little confused about that. thanks for your help- and again: sorry for that dumb questions
EDIT: ok, checked the regions and for my O2 Rhodium they have shipped the .91 version and the one i have only. so is it better to upgrade to 91?
Noob Radio question???
JackJTP said:
another noob question- i was looking for why to upgrade the radio version. didnt find an answer i couldnt understand.
any suggestions if i should and what radio rom i should use? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
Version: 4.49.25.88 (HTC, T-Mobile) or maybe Version: 4.49.25.91 ?! i am a little confused about that. thanks for your help- and again: sorry for that dumb questions
EDIT: ok, checked the regions and for my O2 Rhodium they have shipped the .91 version and the one i have only. so is it better to upgrade to 91?
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Honestly, I think the whole finding the right radio for a particular ROM is that of trial and error. I know most chefs will suggest a particular radio that will work well with their ROMs.
I would stick with the most up to date radio, but if you get symptoms like the mic stops working (they can't hear you, but you hear them), or GPS/WiFi doesn't work, then change to another carrier friendly radio ( I don't know what works on O2 being in the US) or back to a known working stock radio.
Hope this helps.