Access orangeworld from generic desire - Desire General

Hi Guys,
I have been following this forum for years, but have never had the need to post til now.
Coming from a G1, I've just made the transition to a glorious Desire on a Orange UK 'Panther' tariff, from Phones4u.
One of the highlights of the tariff is fee access to their Orange Maps app (supposively pre installed), which I'm told is a semi-decent sat-nav software. But I found no reference to it, or any other pre-installed Orange crap on my phone. After spending over 30 mins on the phone with an strong indian accented Orange Rep named 'Ricky' (suprisingly better informed then the usual monkeys*), it seems I was sold a generic Desire phone from Phone4u with none of Orange's pre-installed crap....YESSS!!!
Here is the issue, it seems you cannot get access to the Orange Maps app from a non-orange branded phone. More specifically you can not access h**p://orangeworld.co.uk which has links to download it from a generic phone. Even though i'm paying for the service as part of tariff.... frekkin Toasters!!!**
In my determination to stick it to the man, I have found what may be a solution, but do not know how to apply it to the Desire. The following thread with a non-obvious title: "How to install Orange Maps on non Orange Firmware" (google it, can't hyperlink it, as I'm a new poster), has a solution for a Samsung phone and I'm wondering if I could get it to work on the desire:
The fix.
1) Enter Admin setting menu *#5239870*#
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5) goto number 7, UAgent
should look something like this:
SAMSUNG-S8000/S8000
XEII2 SHP/VPP/R5
Jasmine/1.0
Nextreaming
SMM-MMS/1.2.0
.......
change the second line to this:
POIG1 SHP/VPP/R5
so it now looks like this
SAMSUNG-S8000/S8000
POIG1 SHP/VPP/R5
Jasmine/1.0
Nextreaming
SMM-MMS/1.2.0
.....
save and exit.
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what is a uAgent and how do I change it on the Android OS? Will it even fix my issue?
Whilst the maps is a feature I want, I'm not desperate enough to cancel my contract => goto new contract with Orange phone with Orange ROM. So It'd be great if someone could help.
Many Thanks,
Digital_Apoc
Update: Ok so it seems I can't access orangeworld.co.uk via WiFi on my phone but CAN over 3g if I switch off the WiFi??? Still going the the maps page gives me "Sorry byt Orange Maps will not work on your handset...." though the desire is on the support list...
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*Not intended as a racist comment
** Intended as a racist comment

Definition of Ironic:
Text from Orange...
"Welcome to Orange and your Panther plan. Get started and setup your inclusive services by clicking h*tp://orangeworld.co.uk/r/panther"... lol

I had that installed for around a day before I flashed my desire with the generic Rom to get rid of all the orange cr4p. If I remember it looked just like google maps which is free unless someone can tell me differently.

I tried to set it up, as it was free, on my Orange branded handset. I kept getting an error about not being able to set it up correctly; this is quite common on this phone it seems. The app itself was installed but the maps would not download/configure correctly.
I rang tech support for another issue and they told me that the phone is listed as not compatible with Orange maps, god knows why it comes installed on their ROM. So until they either update the program (or more likely enabled a flag saying the Desire can use Orange maps) we probably won't be able to download it. That said you might be able to get the apk from somewhere? May just be tech support were lying/drunk
I flashed my handset with a generic ROM to get rid of all the Orange garbage anyway and now I can't even re-install the app itself using the link from Orangeworld (You can text 'Orange Maps' to 247).
I seem to only be able to access the orangeworld portal using a gprs/edge connection, it doesn't like umts it seems. Maybe someone with it stilll installed could try setting it up over a 2g data connection?
Sorry I can't be of more help, good luck =D

I used it when I first got my phone but it was pretty rubbish to say the least, google maps navigation is a much better product.

With Google maps navigation available, what's the point in sticking with Orange Maps providing you don't download more than your FUP permits.
I hate what Orange have done to this phone. The salesman on the phone even lied to me saying that they were using a generic ROM.

Are you sure you can't visit h**p://orangeworld.co.uk on a generic rom? Make sure you go via the Orange APN and not through a wireless network as that is not allowed.

I'm a bit confused by this.
My Orange Desire (I'm on panther) once charged first time, I tried to connected straight to the net and the phone seeked the settings and worked without any intervention. In fact I think it did it right at the beginning when gmail wanted to synch.
A few hours later I debranded, and upon reboot.. the same thing, was all automatic.
i.a.wright said:
Are you sure you can't visit h**p://orangeworld.co.uk on a generic rom? Make sure you go via the Orange APN and not through a wireless network as that is not allowed.
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yes this ^
why do you need to go to orangeworld anyway? there's nothing of any value there

Orange Maps
You don't say but I assume yo're in the UK? FWIW I tried the Orange App and it wasn't a patch on the updated Google Maps with Navigation. It was sloooow and poor definition. So IMHO, forget it!
The commets about only connecting to Orange World through the 3G I can also confirm, but I have no idea why they'd want to do that...?

I agree use google maps navigation, coming from using TomTom on WinMo I prefer Google Nav, only thing I miss is the speed camera updates and custom voices, the google one is crap

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WORKING Blackberry Connect configurations

Hello All,
I believe there are many like me who would love to get the Blackberry Connect Software working on their HDs. At the moment, it seems like black magic how to get it working and the other thread doesn't really contain much useful information on working configurations.
So far, we know the following:
1. It is Radio, ROM and SIM card dependent.
2. You need to have the BB service provisioned on your SIM and have the new style SIMs that support full data functions.
3. Latest version of BB Connect required for TouchHD (4.0.0.106). This is available from HTC Asia on on the internet (just search these boards)
What i'd like to use this thread for is for people to post WORKING configurations with as many details as possible regarding the setup/installation procedure. I'll start with the only configuration I've managed to get working so far.
ROM: Dutty's 1.9b extreme
Radio: 1.12.25.16
SIM: Blackberry service from MTN
Installation/Procedure:
- Flash ROM
- Install BB Connect software
- Provision SIM card
- Connection was activated after a few hours.
Other information:
- The BB connect service defaults to IE as the browser.
- BB Push email service worked but with lag. SEVEN was much better in this regard.
- I was unable to get messenger, stock tabs, weather update, google maps, etc to use the BB connection
- BB push email service creates its own mail folders on your device regardless of what you already have.
- BB email folders do not have full flip to scroll to next message functionality in TF3D.
- BB email did not display pictures, etc
Please lets have other users chime in here and perhaps we can get a Wiki section created for BB Connect on the HD. Lets please keep to the same format as above to keep the information easily referenced and trackable.
Thanks
Thanks for the info, I have been able to run the service with all ROM's expect for the ones built on 6.5 OS's..
Connection was instant in each installation (right after a reset I am connected - then I'd push my service book -- done)
I do not have any lags in mail arrival.
Its satisfactory for me- but as you said you have to stop the BB service prior to any attempt to use the data connection for other purposes (IE, weather...etc)
Only thing I miss is the blackberry messenger.
Thanks for the thread.
Taiseer
Thanks for responding Taiseer.
Could you tell me what mobile operator and country you're using? Secondly, what do you mean by push your service books? Is than an automatic process or manually performed by you? In the installation that worked for me, I didn't do anything of the sort.
After installing did you have your BB sim in the phone or did you insert it later?
TechAnimal said:
Thanks for responding Taiseer.
Could you tell me what mobile operator and country you're using? Secondly, what do you mean by push your service books? Is than an automatic process or manually performed by you? In the installation that worked for me, I didn't do anything of the sort.
After installing did you have your BB sim in the phone or did you insert it later?
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I am currently residing in Oman and its Omantel...
and normally what I do after the 1st installation and device reset, all of my mail arrives to a new mail account named system..(and I won't be able to send or reply to mail from it), so to be able to get the rest of my accounts and have a better use out of the service, I log on to the Operator's blackberry's site and manually demand a service book sending.. in few seconds mail arrive into auto formed mail accounts..
As far as the SIM card its always in the HD..
It looks like SEVEN may be better for me then, how does battery compare between the two.
Thanks for the information Taiseer. My provider does not offer the internet log on option so I guess I will need to get them to push the service books to me somehow. When I install the software with the sim in it, i get nothing after a soft reset. No pin and no ip address. Did you find that MS Live or any other microsoft service was able to use the BB connection or is it just the browser?
O and O said:
It looks like SEVEN may be better for me then, how does battery compare between the two.
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Seven has a good service and I've had no complaints. The BB data plan is the cheapest where I live though. So if you can get unlimited (or cheap) data packages, stick with SEVEN. I didn't notice any differences with battery life.
TechAnimal said:
Thanks for the information Taiseer. My provider does not offer the internet log on option so I guess I will need to get them to push the service books to me somehow. When I install the software with the sim in it, i get nothing after a soft reset. No pin and no ip address. Did you find that MS Live or any other microsoft service was able to use the BB connection or is it just the browser?
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No - you got to stop data connection, but because I am used to my WIFI conection and hotspots everywhere I normally do not discounnect the BB connection, DO you??
Whilst my service worked I was too scared to disconnect the BB connection so I just didn't use any of the other services. It sucked. I've just flashed Davideuck's newest V 2 ROM so we'll see if i can get it working.
Okay, great news people. I've got my service working on Davideuck's Version 2 rom. It required a call to my network provider. For all those installing on a HD, its down to your provider regardless of what they say.
Taiseer, thanks for the heads up about the blackberry page for my subscriber. I managed to track mine down and set up my email accounts from there.
Woohah!
I am using a stock ROM 1.14.405.3(22273) WWE, Radio 1.09.25.15
I hate to have to use a cooked ROM, I've used Dutty's ROM's on my Kaiser and they worked well but this phone works so well I don't want to mess things up.
I believe the stock ROM should work as well. Be sure to hassle your service provider to set it up on their end. I think some providers are not pleased to offer the BB service for non BB phones and do not fully enable the service (they can tell that its not a BB phone from the PIN number). After a talk with my provider, I was told to reset my phone and presto! all was working.
It works on on my Kaiser so I know it works on my T-Mobile plan. I may mess with the radio's to see what I can do.
Sorry to keep adding to this thread but I have some new developments. I upgraded the ROM to 1.19.831.0 and Radio 1.09.25.14
I have version 106 and ran the desktop software, it switched the PIN from the Kaiser to the HD. I changed the version reset the device and now I have the service books and an IP address.
When I look at the status I get network available>data tunnel available then not connected.
Update, since it wasn't working I tried to reinstall BB Connect on the HD, when I tried to configure I got the PIN 0 error. As a last resort I put the SIM in the Kaiser and configured it, then switch to the HD, configured it and it worked!
I'm not sure but it looks like changing the PIN was all I needed to do.
blackberry working great on orange uk htc touch HD standard phone
I downloaded the blacberry install files form a link on this forum, I belive it was the same blackbery files from HTC.
Rom Version 1.19.61.1 wwe
Radio 1.09.25.14
Installed the BB app to phone - then went to start settings > system >" click" icon blackberry.
Blackerry connect (identity) tab shows 3 bits of info
PIN said something like waiting for PIN
IMEI 78*******************
IP Address No connection
Spoke to orange asked for blackberry service. they said 5 permonth £ 250MB of blackberry
Orange sent me text message with a pin number and told me of the orange blackberry site to go to I think it is blackberry.orange.co.uk
On the blackberry.orange.co.uk I enterd the PIN number from the text message and IMEI number.
My phone recived a text a turned it of and turned it back on.
Checked the Blackerry connect (identity) tab
PIN was now populated with the pin that was in the text message
IMIE still there
IP Address says connected.
Went back to the blackberry.co.uk setup my email accounts with blackberry the pressed service book. looked at my phone 20 mins later and my there email accounts were there 2 for work and 1 for home.
I dont do much surfing on the phone but opera works and and the blackberry is fantastic.
orange were very helpfull on this.
But saying that blackberry is really a network service Windows Live I belive does a similar thing you get push email.
I'm glad to see people are getting it sorted. There are certainly many other options for connectivity and push email. Some even work better than the BB service. The reason i'm on the BB service is that its the cheapest way to browse regularly and get push email in my part of the world. When a page can cost as much as 30 pence via gprs versus 20 pounds a month for unlimited data on the BB plan, its a no brainer. Yes, I'm painfully aware we're being gouged but theres no getting away from that.
I have a problem with blackberry connect...
Everything installed just fine, receiving message OK, BUT...I can't send mail because option new mail, reply on mail also, is disabled
Very strange, because I used earlier bb connect on diamond and everything worked...
Any solutions?
peca_bench said:
I have a problem with blackberry connect...
Everything installed just fine, receiving message OK, BUT...I can't send mail because option new mail, reply on mail also, is disabled
Very strange, because I used earlier bb connect on diamond and everything worked...
Any solutions?
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Its probably because you are only having the "system mail account" you should try to send your service books to your winmo via provider
Thank you very much - I'm tottaly forgot the way how to do that, working now!
Problems with BB connect on HTC HD
Hi guys,
after setting up successfully BBconnect on my HD, I noticed that when I send emails from my BES account on my laptop, I always find them in my Inbox (not in Sent Items as I would expect) of my HD reporting me as Sender and no body message in it. Instead, should I send emails from my handled device, I always find them in Sent Items of my device as expected....Has anyone of you faced the same issue?
Thanks...

orange touch 3G help

Hi
Just got this phone through today and I quite like it but i hate what orange have done to it. this whole unique manager etc is a big pile of the steaming smelly stuff you have no idea if it's using wifi or your data mins!
so really what i won't to know is does any one know how to get rid of this and if you can't can someone point me in the direction of a decent Rom for it and a guide to flashing it, I wan't a rom thats reasonably close to the htc original, but also if all goes wrong and i have to send it back to orange for a fault can it be put back to the original orange rom.
I have tried searching but i am a little overwhelmed by all the posts and roms, I don't want to get it wrong on my first one and totaly ruin my nice shiny phone.
oh why did orange have to mess with it?
cheers
Tom
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_UpgradeFAQ
http://www.modmydiamond.info/
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
hi
thanks for the info it was really helpful in explaining, but i can't see any links to touch 3g roms. i assume it's not the same rom as the diamond.
cheers
Tom
Orange Issue
I am also having problems as I can not connect to any WIFi and can not find a way of changing the Wifi Power management.
Orange
I have had a call from Orange and the suggestion was to have a look at the HTC Web site and see if there was anything to help there.
I have just spent the last 3 days reading this site (don't tell the boss) and i have just this moment burned a fairly original htc rom on to it so that i can get rid of all the orange stuff.
so far it's much better and i get the msn messenger back as well, have a look at the jade part of this forum, you need to install hardspl which will enable you to dump the rom and install the new one on the phone, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
then dump the current rom for backup http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448776
now download and use this Kitchen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441872 in this package you have all the files to make the original htc rom and also restore your backup rom.
just have a read of some of these threads and you will be able to go back to htc original rom. you will need to do some leaps of faith with some of it, but i have just done it and it's worked fine, I made sure i had the backup though!
cheers
Tom
Hi Tom, just wanted to say thanks for the links and info - I've now successfully flashed one of ironeagle's lean-cut ROMs and the awful Unique Manager is gone!
I have a stock Touch Diamond as well and the performance of the 3g with the Orange ROM in comparison was dreadful. This new one is nice and zippy.
Ironeagle’s ROMs
Hi BexxBexx
Did you simply run JadeHard-SPL_V41 and then install one of Ironeagle’s ROMs
I presume that this will remove all the Orange rubbish and become SIM free?
I also presume that GPS and WIFI are all working ok?
Thanks
Dave
Does UMA/Unique Still work with HTC Rom
Hi, I also have Orange HTC Touch and do find the Unique/WiFi control unclear as to what service it is using, I have no signal at home so I know it has to be using the wifi despite the phone saying 3G. I wondered if those who have tried different ROM's have still got the use of Orange Unique/UMA i.e. can make calls & SMS's via the wifi network. I have to have this facility as no signal at home. I had blackberry's before & they were great for using the WiFi but I read that if you removed the orange branding (e.g. had an unlocked phone) you lost this however I did use BB OEM updated ROM & was still OK but underneath I still got the orange startup so assume still branded. Also very easy to restore previous firmware if problems. BB (RIM) released about 5 or 6 updated firmwares over about a year, Orange Never released any specific so I am not holding breath for HTC/Orange ROM. HTC do have an updated one on their WWW but if I put my serial number in says not suitable. V. Strangely at home 90% time I get the green house OK saying wifi conencted & can phone/sms fine using this but if I try to connect to the internet it say no connection, try again a few minutes later after some swithing on/off and it might work. No set pattern to make it work.
i would be very keen to know if this works as well with regards to retaining UMA ability once orange software has been removed
Just a small follow up, does not help me but the more info the better - I found on digitalspy forum that someone had located WLan settings on the htc touch 3g.
Basically File Explorer/Windows/WLANSettings there is a little more info & you can change the Power settings - I had read others benefited by changing power save mode to best performace they got a better wifi connection, Mine was on best battery & changed to Best Performance, but I still do not get a reliable connection to my WiFi, but it may lead onto something.
Not bothered me much before as unlimited data anyway but been in Italy and and wanted to use the hotel wifi but not being able to turn off gsm I could not be sure what network it was using and would have cost a fortune on EU roaming data charges so simply could not risk using the phone for any browsing.
Thanks
This forum is the best!
Just got rid of the Orange branding. As a minimum is now says "WiFi" instead of Unique Phone and no annoying Orange World references. And Google Maps is on as standard!
I called Orange before I did it to for info on Unique Phone. They dont know a lot! They think you have to be connected via an Orange router - which I dont have anyway. But they are not sure.
From what I can make out Unique Phone is UMA. Re previous post - don't know if it still works after de-branding (or if it work before de-branding!) because I dont know how to tell if it is working! No indications AFAICS. I would have thought there would have been settings for UMA - server etc. Or am I being thick!
Anyway - here is a question ..................off topic but relevant I think! (Ok - shoot me down then!)
I have just changed tarriff to included unlimited internet. I had a e650 before (de-branded that one also!) and used wifi all the time but I have never ever used internet via GSM ever.
So the question.....how do you know what you are using to access the internet if your wifi is on? Does it favour wifi if it is connected? The reason I want to know this is so that I do not use GSM internet while roaming abroad.
Thanks again guys for all your hard work. In a way I am glad Orange mess about with the phones - gives us something to search for on 'tinternet !
Not really helping you but for info. to others from my experience.
The Touch 3g, "Unique" is UMA and works surprisingly well. 95% of time it connects for calls & sms's (I know its using the router as I don't have GSM signal at home) I have Orange broadband with a livebox and it all routes through this although the phone actually connects to a Buffalo router so you can us AP's and increase range very well & easily'ish.
The bizarre thing I find is despite the phone clearly connecting via wifi for calls etc. the internet only works 60% of the time, I think the rest of the time because it can't find a gsm signal is complains. A restart, few fiddles with settings and it works again, but not set pattern or reasons won't work,
very Random!
Normally you would know you are connected to the wifi because the Access Points name would be displayed, prob. next to you network provider and with previous (even) orange branded BlackBerry's its clear and obvious, however with this 3g and the fact it can connect to UMA for calls etc & (I'm guessing) tries for gsm for internet I would be a little anxious. You may be lucky now you have debranded and be able to switch OFF the network signal only. I could always do this with BB's so it could ONLY use wifi. Why the #!#!#! you can't with orange's Touch 3g I fail to comprehend. As I said in my post above, fortunately I have unlimited and don't really need internet at home but could not risk using whilst abroad.
What firmware did you use to de-brand?
I followed this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441872 - the kitchen contained everything. I never changed anything - just used what was in it. Admit I was a bit concerned - but is worked fine and then I had a gin and tonic to calm down
In terms of the Unique Phone - when I rang Orange they were not sure if a livebox was needed or not. I dont have a livebox but heyho I dont have Unique Phone any longer so it is immaterial to me now!
As regards the GPRS - I now just edit the Access Point name - take last letter away from orangeinternet and it will not connect. So now I can switch it on and off as required. So I switch it off when abroad - I have unlimited in the UK.
Orange UMA on HTC Touch 3G (business contract) - problems like rest of you guys...
It's reassuring to read I'm not the only one with problems with my upgrade from Orange.
I was told that their UMA phones would help me get around a patchy signal issue out in my (garden) office, which is connected via Cat5e cable to the Netgear router in the house. Here in the office I now use an old Netgear WG602 WAP connected via a switch & Cat5e cable to the router (only 45m, about 50yards in old money, away). Orange have now said I can't get support as I'm not using their Broadband (we have BT Internet) & their Livebox, but they originally said the UMA feature worked with any wireless network (which it does about 2/3rd of the time). The rest of the time the green house isn't there, just the red or the grey house appear in the status bar or in Unique Manager.
I quite like the phone, as a phone & SMS device, as it is way lighter than my old HTC Ty-Tn II (brick) & I am happy with Orange (as I have been with them for over 15 years now for both business & personal use), so I don't want to go unlocked etc. Also the Business Support side of things is, I have heard from personal customers, way better also.
But this bloody UMA is driving me round the u-bend. This (below) is a post I put up on another forum & I'm hoping someone here can shed light on how to tweak both the phone's UMA settings & our WAP's, so I can get it to work 99% of the time via wi-fi when the Orange GSM signal fails.
I am frustrated at having been convinced by Oranges’ answer to a poor signal reception issue in my area: we (Orange) now have a limited – yes VERY – selection of phones that use UMA to continue or route a new call over a w-fi- connection instead of GSM. Well we jumped for it, but they didn’t say we’d have similar dropped connection problems via UMA over our wireless service (provided by BT Internet & Netgear WAP & Router. They have flatly refused any support for the HTC 3G Touch I have got on a 24 month contract (been with Orange for 15 + years) because we aren’t using Orange Broadband or their router. I’m fairly certain it is a software configuration issue (both what settings I need to use on the phone & the WAP need tweaking), but they are unable to assist. Can you help at all? I have a reasonable IT understanding even though I’m just a “bricks & mortar” builder. Many thanks, Rob
Can anyone help me out please.
You may already but could check Settings/connections/connections/advanced/select network/ and make sure both on Orange internet (or your ISP) rather than having "my work network" on either. Not sure if it will help but I think I had intermittant UMA when I left the 2nd on "my Work".
I have a 3g touch working quite well with UMA, rarely I get the red house & I restart the phone & it tends to be OK. I do however use Orange Broadband and the Livebox as modem, but had a variety of routers & WAP's, Belkin & now Buffalo that all have tended to work wuite well.
I have had good results with the Blackberrys also, 8120 & 8220 flip, in some ways better that the touch 3g.

Unlocked UK Orange - HSDPA not working

I wonder if anyone can help...
I'm at stage 1 of de-branding my UK Orange Black Desire..
I got the unlock code this morning and it worked a charm!
Thing I have now is if I have the Vodafone sim in the vodafone desire it came from (handset is going back faulty) I get HSDPA....
If I then put the same sim in the unlocked Orange Desire it only gets 3G+ (whatever that is)
I had to configure the Access Point Names manually as prior to that it had no data connection at all?
Anyone got any ideas? am I missing something?
3g+ is hsdpa but orange named it 3g+ in their Rom for some reason. Don't worry, all is well
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Your a STAR! thanx mate!
Just got to flash it now and get rid of all this orange JUNK!
For some reason the market place is different on the orange phone to.... google earth, beebplayer and layer are all missing... and goggles doesnt work.
I'm on orange also, and have done what you are doing. Be careful when you flash the new generic Rom as it will lock the phone, and you will need an unlock code to use it again if you don't have the goldcard in while updating. You'll find Google earth in the market after the flash, as I have it installed on mine. Goggles also works. It will display hsdpa instead of 3g+ when flashed aswell.
Any problems I'll try to help.
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Orange always call HSDPA - "3G+" on all their smart phones, my Nokia N85 was the same until i changed it's product code and reflashed it. I guess they call it 3g+ because it sounds like an improvement to 3G. Non technical people will probably wonder what HSDPA actually is.
Also, if you want Google Earth, use a WWE rom as the European ROM i used to debrand my Orange Desire originally would not find google earth, even after doing an OTA update.

HTC Desire Orange Wifi Tethering info

Lo all.
I've been cursing Orange for their apparent treachery with the Android 2.2 Froyo inclusion of Wifi Hotspot feature which does exactly sweet ****le.
So tonight I set about investigating how to Root it so I could load up a stock HTC ROM, which from what I've read in every corner of the internet this last week, should allow me to tether my netbook - just like I used to get without any trouble with my old K800i/Bluetooth and lately with my Desire+USB cable.
As I type this, I'm on my netbook, coming to you over Orange 3G+, and at the same time the Desire is also able to pull 3G for it's own browser use. This is perfect, exactly as it should have been. I'll explain exactly what I've done with crystal clarity for everyone who's been getting dead ends from both Useless Orange Customer Service and Useless HTC Customer Service for the last two weeks.
I *HAVE* rooted the phone tonight (yayyy) using the Unrevoked utility - which is very slick, thank you to those guys - I especially liked being told things were successful and triumphant during various reboots while it did its Thing.
However, while it does apparently load you up with a new ROM - "ClockwordMod Recovery" I don't fully understand why my phone's still Orange branded, with all the Orange settings intact. That's a job for Other People to talk about tho. The reason I'm mentioning this is in case it's been at all relevant to the menus I've changed setting for - I don't remember seeing them before, so if you read below and you don't have the menus I mention, then you should go ahead and do the Unrevoked process. Ask elsewhere for details on it if you're not sure.
ANYWAY, here's what to set in your Desire's settings to deal with Orange's bullsheeat;
From your homescreen;
Menu/settings/Wireless&Networks/Mobile networks/Access Point Names
You should see the following three APNs;
Orange Internet
Consumer Broadband
Orange MMS
(that "consumer broadband" one is the one I don't remember seeing before, but I may have been blind. If you don't have it, go ahead and {assuming it's a clean factory-issue Orange Desire obviously} Unrevoke your Desire!)
Select Consumer Broadband
CHANGE the APN from "consumerbroadband" to "orangeinternet"
CHANGE the Username from <Not set> to "Orange"
CHANGE the password from <Not set> to "Multimedia"
Make sure you use the capital first letters exactly as I've typed them there. Oh, and don't type the " marks. I'm sure if you're smart enough to use XDA-Dev you already know that, but no harm in stating it for the n00blets.
Authentication type should be set to CHAP. Make sure, I think it was anyway but just check.
Press your Menu button, tap "Save"
And that's it.
Switch on your "Wifi Hotspot" in your usual way, search and connect from your lappie, surf the bejesus out of those pesky Orange ratbags. Meanwhile your phone keeps its own connection side by side your tethered hotspot - that's what the "Orange Internet" settings alter, so don't mess with those.
Don't forget to use one of the WPA security methods of course, otherwise some cheeky knob-jockey will definitely enjoy your Orange account's data capacity right up to the hair.
OK, I'm done, carry on. o7
I just tested this, I added the settings you mentioned and I can say.......it works! Nice one bruv! I haven't rooted either.thank you for this!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Phew. Good. Means I did indeed totally fail to notice the "Consumer Broadband" APN section before though. Doh.
I guess we can infer that Orange intends to use the Consumer Broadband APN settings for chargeable tethering packages at a future point then. Very cheeky.
I bet it was this evil genius plan that held up the Orange Froyo rollout.
To anyone who's got a 2.2 Desire who's NOT on Orange UK and who DOES have their Wifi Hotspot feature working fully after getting Android 2.2 Froyo without any messing around - could you post here and tell us if you've got the two separate Mobile Data APNs I mentioned above? I have a suspicion you've only got one...?
Mines Stock htc desire 2.2 (Not rooted) and o2 sim. Only 1 setting for everything. mms, gprs and wifi hot spot.
Not one issue at all.
You Legend Roger_Dodger
That is brilliant. I have NO IDEA how you managed to come up with that Roger_Dodger but that seems to have worked for me! I am on a normal Orange with NO ROOT!
hd2biker said:
Mines Stock htc desire 2.2 (Not rooted) and o2 sim. Only 1 setting for everything. mms, gprs and wifi hot spot.
Not one issue at all.
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I guess that settles it then, seems to me it's definitely a ploy for Orange to subsequently charge us for tethering on smartphones. Bugger that. I pay for my bundle as it is thanks.
New request: Any network gurus here who know the mechanics of How This Works able to tell us whether Orange, or indeed any mobile provider, can tell whether data is being drawn is being pulled by the phone itself for its own use or is being sucked over a tether?
Oh, can I also say - Conman Maples, the Orange PR guy who many of you doubtless follow on Twitter (conorfromorange), while of some limited value, should be treated exactly as he is, *PR* - people seem to miss that he's a PUBLIC RELATIONS guy? Like Max Clifford but not as sharp? His JOB, his FUNCTION, is to paint Orange in good light.
Works good. No idea how you managed to figure that. Again on a non root.
Cheers dude.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Cheers dude. I was wondering why it wasn't working when I found your post. Works like a charm now. Impressed!
/lys
Really, is there a way for Orange to know whether I'm using the internet on my phone or I'm tethering the connection?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Hi new to this this has worked fine no thanks to orange but could you tell me where to set wpa settings I am using a htc desire thanks
Roger_Dodger said:
Lo all.
I've been cursing Orange for their apparent treachery with the Android 2.2 Froyo inclusion of Wifi Hotspot feature which does exactly sweet ****le.
So tonight I set about investigating how to Root it so I could load up a stock HTC ROM, which from what I've read in every corner of the internet this last week, should allow me to tether my netbook - just like I used to get without any trouble with my old K800i/Bluetooth and lately with my Desire+USB cable.
As I type this, I'm on my netbook, coming to you over Orange 3G+, and at the same time the Desire is also able to pull 3G for it's own browser use. This is perfect, exactly as it should have been. I'll explain exactly what I've done with crystal clarity for everyone who's been getting dead ends from both Useless Orange Customer Service and Useless HTC Customer Service for the last two weeks.
I *HAVE* rooted the phone tonight (yayyy) using the Unrevoked utility - which is very slick, thank you to those guys - I especially liked being told things were successful and triumphant during various reboots while it did its Thing.
However, while it does apparently load you up with a new ROM - "ClockwordMod Recovery" I don't fully understand why my phone's still Orange branded, with all the Orange settings intact. That's a job for Other People to talk about tho. The reason I'm mentioning this is in case it's been at all relevant to the menus I've changed setting for - I don't remember seeing them before, so if you read below and you don't have the menus I mention, then you should go ahead and do the Unrevoked process. Ask elsewhere for details on it if you're not sure.
ANYWAY, here's what to set in your Desire's settings to deal with Orange's bullsheeat;
From your homescreen;
Menu/settings/Wireless&Networks/Mobile networks/Access Point Names
You should see the following three APNs;
Orange Internet
Consumer Broadband
Orange MMS
(that "consumer broadband" one is the one I don't remember seeing before, but I may have been blind. If you don't have it, go ahead and {assuming it's a clean factory-issue Orange Desire obviously} Unrevoke your Desire!)
Select Consumer Broadband
CHANGE the APN from "consumerbroadband" to "orangeinternet"
CHANGE the Username from <Not set> to "Orange"
CHANGE the password from <Not set> to "Multimedia"
Make sure you use the capital first letters exactly as I've typed them there. Oh, and don't type the " marks. I'm sure if you're smart enough to use XDA-Dev you already know that, but no harm in stating it for the n00blets.
Authentication type should be set to CHAP. Make sure, I think it was anyway but just check.
Press your Menu button, tap "Save"
And that's it.
Switch on your "Wifi Hotspot" in your usual way, search and connect from your lappie, surf the bejesus out of those pesky Orange ratbags. Meanwhile your phone keeps its own connection side by side your tethered hotspot - that's what the "Orange Internet" settings alter, so don't mess with those.
Don't forget to use one of the WPA security methods of course, otherwise some cheeky knob-jockey will definitely enjoy your Orange account's data capacity right up to the hair.
OK, I'm done, carry on. o7
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Hi - can you please quote the rest of the APN settings, and whether this works on the SGS2? Thanks in advance.
Roger_Dodger said:
However, while it does apparently load you up with a new ROM - "ClockwordMod Recovery" I don't fully understand why my phone's still Orange branded, with all the Orange settings intact.
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unrevoked doesnt flash a new rom, just replaces the recovery.img
thats why you are still branded I'd say
this works great for me. Thanks for sharing. Now I can teather my laptop again

[Q] Google Goggles

Does Google Goggles work for anyone on the DHD?
I have installed it but when I try and use it, it takes a picture, says it is "Analyzing" and then comes up with "Connection problem (error code 503)" every time.
FWIW I am in the UK on Orange
MOD EDIT: Moved to General
Cheers,
M_T_M
Works perfectly here. Did you try thru wifi?
mwright said:
FWIW I am in the UK on Orange
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works for me, im in the uk and on tmobile
Works perfectly no errors Vodafone UK WiFi and 3g
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Works ok on O2 UK.
I have the same problem.. also on Orange. Works fine over Wifi though.
Runs perfectly here -> T-mobile, The Netherlands
I have exactly the same issue, I'm on Orange too. Works just fine on WIFI. Grrrrr. *shakes fist at Orange*
Orange blocks
Damn!
You are right - it works with WiFi turned on but not just using GPRS.
Orange must be blocking it for some reason.
I will have to try and find out why and if it can be "unblocked".
Wish me luck!!
Regards
Mike
seems to be an issue with the ports which we need to 'manually' open up.. some people have reported similar issues they've had whilst using google goggles on some cellular networks rather than wifi
shame really.. i have no idea how to fix this.. i am probably the worst person when it comes to issues such as this - i don't know my ports from my pots
anyways.. i hope someone can figure this out soon.. google goggles is a major app.. shame if we can't use it whilst out and about to make our friends go 'ooh'! and 'ahh'! and finally jump aboard the android ship from iphone!
p.s. this is my 1st post here i believe - so please be gentle with me lol.. also nice to meet you all
I have the same problem. wifi works. Orange GPRS doesn't.
Someone at Orange help, please.
Well just spent 30 mins on the phone to CS with little success. Not really their fault since they do not understand deep technical issues.
The rep has promised to get someone from Tech to ring me back - but there is a huge queue apparently.
Regards
Mike
Orange Data Support
Well, true to her word, I did get a call from 2nd line support.
We had a long discussion about the problem. She lso saw the problem herself by using her phone with an O2 and then an Orange SIM. It worked fine on O2 and failed on Orange!
Problem now passed on to the data support team who will look at it and (hopefully) et back to me within 72 hours.
Will keep you all posted as and when.
Regards
Mike
Had another call from Orange 2nd level support today.
Apparently they won't look at the problem because it involves a third-party application! Well of course it does - I told them it does!
They suggest that I contact Google and ask them to look at the problem - what the h**; are they going to do. It isn't THEIR problem since the application works fine on most (all?) other network and on WiFi.
Anyone here have any clout with either Orange or Google care to take this further cos I don't really know where to go next.
Regards
Mike
I'm just another Orange customer but I submitted an online query with Orange to get this looked at yesterday, pointing out that customers on other networks don't seem to have any issues and that the app works over wireless.
Fingers crossed...
I have just updated Google Goggles and seems to work fine to me using UK Orange 3G. Can anybody else confirm?
Has anyone noticed that Google Goggles likes to eat the battery as well, I've noticed its taken a good 10% of my battery constantly even when I force stop it. :s
Started working for me on Orange 3G too. Looks like it's fixed
Yup, seems to be fixed in the latest update! Well done Google! Shame I had only just logged a call with Orange moaning that it must be a bug with their network
works perfectly for me using both wifi and 3G

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