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Finally get off Sprints lies of 4G.. I was there from the beginning when they promised me Wimax would be everywhere..
Realizing the HSPA with T-mobile is definitely different then at&t's HSPA.. Its very fast in my area..
So I'm doing it!!!
I plan to root it first thing.. Then put on the newest Juggernaut Rom..
It seems very stable from what many are saying..
I assume there are themes and such for this Rom as well?
Any other tips or tricks you guys can recommend that would be great..
Noo try Macnut... support for juggs is pretty much dead...
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iloveandroid16 said:
Noo try Macnut... support for juggs is pretty much dead...
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Powered by the SGSII....
Ive been using touchless and its been quite good with the darkside kernel...
Congrats on the phone. I'm still running juggernaut 3.7. I haven't really felt the need to try another Rom. I have looked at the macnut. It seems like it's still jugs with little changes.
Same here man, I left Sprint after being a customer since 2006...
I was pleasantly shocked at my coverage with T-Mobile and the HSPA+ speeds here, everything is so much better than Sprint. Congrats on the move, I got out because of a material change in the contract.
I recommend reading up on the rooting guides as well as watching this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfA1KKzXkFU. This video is pretty much is fool-proof and if you're a veteran to rooting, then this phone is EZ PZ.
Wow.. thanks all.. Thanks for the heads up on the rom..
This Macnut rom.. It's super stable? Sense rom I assume?
First of all..
First of all, you must root and install a custom ROM if possible. Definitely makes the experience more enjoyable
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Wow.. thanks all.. Thanks for the heads up on the rom..
This Macnut rom.. It's super stable? Sense rom I assume?
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The most up to date roms in our forum are macnut and darkside.
Also, they use touchwiz... Sense is for htc phones.
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The most up to date roms in our forum are macnut and darkside.
Also, they use touchwiz... Sense is for htc phones.
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heheh.. ok... Touchwiz it is..
I'm gonna put Macnut as it seems the most popular..
Anything else?
Whats some other goodies I should know about?
Camera tricks?
themes I assume are all included in the rom topic post ?
if you want something that will have everything working, even have apps work that sometimes somehow it doesnt in other roms. Just root and stock and if you want something that doesnt update a lot, root and stock.
Yeah I was reading that some custom roms use up a lot of battery when using Bluetooth. So I have been reading a great deal before I actually do anything. I can deal with the bloatware for now till I get a good grasp of everything.
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stock and root, then remove bloatwares.. thats all you need. all custom rom add is the 14 toggle statusbar, maybe custom kernel... to support BLN or however ( top of of my head ) seen it around but doesnt phase me... other than that, its just themes.. everything is based on 2.3.6 + themes, especially eugenes rom, it seems nothing but theme and LG hack... same ol same.... and people gave him money for a " theme ROM" from him.. wow... give me 350, we will have AOSP them.. with tweaks...
Wife got her SGS2 yesterday and I rooted it with Juggernaut. As a rom, it was fairly disappointing at first as it looked nearly exactly stock, but it did have some good UI tweaks built in as well as an app to toggle bloat on and off. Using titanium to get rid of some of the extra bloat, and launcher pro to ditch TouchWiz UI it's running pretty smooth.
Today is the first day of real use and I have high hopes for it.
Try a few roms, You'll spend more time waiting for them to download than to install and configure with all the upload sites now, but at least you can get a feel for what's out there.
Then just bookmark and stalk the forums for a AOSP ICS build.
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stock and root, then remove bloatwares.. thats all you need. all custom rom add is the 14 toggle statusbar, maybe custom kernel... to support BLN or however ( top of of my head ) seen it around but doesnt phase me... other than that, its just themes.. everything is based on 2.3.6 + themes, especially eugenes rom, it seems nothing but theme and LG hack... same ol same.... and people gave him money for a " theme ROM" from him.. wow... give me 350, we will have AOSP them.. with tweaks...
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The modded versions of 2.3.6 are much better than stock. try macnut or darkside warfare. those are currently the most up to date roms available for our phone.
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I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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Who said CM9 is coming to this phone?
I got the phone today.. And all I can say is WOW!!
It's unreal!!
Whats touchwiz exactly ??
I rooted the phone first thing, but as of now, I'm not putting a rom into it.. I will just play with it as it is now..
I hate the fact though I cannot change the drawer task bar... The bottom buttons...
I don't use the stock messaging program (I use handcet) and I cannot remove it..
Sucks..
as for the speed..
Holy ****!!!
I cannot believe this glorified 3g system is this fast.. I guess it doesn't matter LTE, Wimax or what.. I'm getting download speeds of 20 down and 3-4 up..
Average.. lowest I've seen 5 down so far.
This thing is awesome!!
Touchwiz is the launcher. If you want to change your drawer apps go to your apps menu and hit the menu button them edit. Then just drag whatever you want to change in your dock.
And not to bust your bubbles, have you checked your display on low brightness in a dark room and noticed the blobs and vertical lines on your phone.? I'm pretty sure you'll begin to notice it very soon. Thought id give you a heads up. This is am overall bad ass phone except for that flaw.
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I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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You know you can just add the flag -notw to the Darkside file name and that will get rid of TouchWiz and most of the T-mobile/Samsung apps right? I'm guessing you didn't read the "flags" area in the first post of the DARKSIDE DIGITAL WARFARE thread.
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Touchwiz is the launcher. If you want to change your drawer apps go to your apps menu and hit the menu button them edit. Then just drag whatever you want to change in your dock.
And not to bust your bubbles, have you checked your display on low brightness in a dark room and noticed the blobs and vertical lines on your phone.? I'm pretty sure you'll begin to notice it very soon. Thought id give you a heads up. This is am overall bad ass phone except for that flaw.
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Went with my dad to get these phones today..
I went through about 3 of them, before I found two that had ZERO lines or issues..
I checked the best I could.. Went into the back room, which was dark and opened a bunch of dark pictures from the web..
I saw some lines on 3 of them.. before I found the next two that didn't look like they had them..
so if it does have them, its so minor, you will never be able to tell..
At least not enough that I have to TRY and see them..
So playing around with the leak the past day and half has made me decide that I'll be getting the Nexus when it comes out, or waiting for another ICS device released with it out the box.
It was way to Gingerbread feeling for me. It didn't feel new to me. Even with the ICS launcher instead of the TW one. I know it isn't a final release, but this is basically what we are going to see.
I also know the devs do an awesome job for this phone, but I don't know if they are going to fix this up good enough for me not to just jump on what ICS was meant to be.
I understand why Samsung did it this way, but huge disappointment.
You do realize that someone, here in our very own forum, is working on putting aosp on our phone, right? Which means it will be _exactly_ what ics was meant to be.
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You do realize that someone, here in our very own forum, is working on putting aosp on our phone, right? Which means it will be _exactly_ what ics was meant to be.
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I realize that, but we still don't have an AOSP GB that works perfectly......
Like I said I love the devs....but idk I'll wait and see if they get it done.
Go get the Nexus, enjoy!
I might be a minority in thought, but I actually am not impressed with ASOP, for some reason, it just feels a little half baked. Back in the day, I flashed an ASOP rom on my original Epic and EVO, and let a normal user try it for a day. They looked so lost compared to their iPhone.
Not wanting to make this into a pissing match, but I see the appeal of overlays such as TouchWiz or HTC Sense. From a customer experience perspective, the overlay is what sells the device, not the version of Android. The users of this board, and similar forums, make up a small percentage of actual buyers.
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Even with the ICS launcher instead of the TW one. I know it isn't a final release, but this is basically what we are going to see.
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does not compute. ICS launcher on our phone will be the same as the ICS launcher on the Nexus....
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I might be a minority in thought, but I actually am not impressed with ASOP, for some reason, it just feels a little half baked. Back in the day, I flashed an ASOP rom on my original Epic and EVO, and let a normal user try it for a day. They looked so lost compared to their iPhone.
Not wanting to make this into a pissing match, but I see the appeal of overlays such as TouchWiz or HTC Sense. From a customer experience perspective, the overlay is what sells the device, not the version of Android. The users of this board, and similar forums, make up a small percentage of actual buyers.
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It is AOSP. And a normal user is an iPhone user? This statement is just full of not adding up, huh?
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Nothing wrong with it... Its ics power with the colorfull look and feel of gb... Its a phone patna not a lexus!
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Galaxy !?!?!
Pshhhh
iPhone is where it's at
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does not compute. ICS launcher on our phone will be the same as the ICS launcher on the Nexus....
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If I'm not mistaken you cannot resize widgets on our phone like you can with the Nexus....
Also, I'm wondering if the widgets function differently on a normal ICS install....for example adding a contact to the home screen. On the preview it shows that what they text you comes up on the home screen, but in actual usage of it only their name comes up and never switches from that..
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If I'm not mistaken you cannot resize widgets on our phone like you can with the Nexus....
Also, I'm wondering if the widgets function differently on a normal ICS install....for example adding a contact to the home screen. On the preview it shows that what they text you comes up on the home screen, but in actual usage of it only their name comes up and never switches from that..
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that's because we only have a leaked beta version...
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that's because we only have a leaked beta version...
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I'm not convinced, but we will see......
Are the new ICS widgets available using the TW Launcher? I am currently restoring EL29 and can't check. I thought they didn't when I was using it but am not sure.
I'm not totally convinced Samsung intends on including some of the features like resizing widgets, but I guess I'll have to wait and find out...
Samsung will try o deliver as much of a user-friendly experience as they can.
Remember that Google put a lot of restrictions on OEM skins with ICS. You aren't going to get the heavy skinning on ICS like you did with GB. They did this because they want ICS to look like ICS, not TouchWiz, MotoBlur, or Sense. That's why you have the option to revert to the ICS launcher. If you want AOSP experience, simply stick with Calkulin's leaked version and run ICS launcher until Cyanogen comes out with CM9.
But then again, I don't make six figures and have $600+ to blow on a Nexus, so.
dude
I've had the ics on my nexus and also on my vibrant but ONCE again the potential of this device overshadows any type of os for me and for most .. idk I just find myself actually using the browser ..phone ... apps..watching movies more than the little things a lot of the people talk about getting a nexus s for.... I say have fun I'm about the go not the show. Just like my cars
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It is AOSP. And a normal user is an iPhone user? This statement is just full of not adding up, huh?
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Yeah that's what happens when you think faster than you type.
What I was trying to say is that when you compare ICS as a build and UI experience, it is catching up, but there is a reason why overlays such as Sense and TouchWiz exist, as they really improve the experience for that common Android user. I've used the Nexus, and I still go back to the Epic Touch, just feels better in my opinion.
iSaint said:
Galaxy !?!?!
Pshhhh
iPhone is where it's at
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Pffft yeah right! It's all about the galaxy nexus
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Tripsyk said:
Samsung will try o deliver as much of a user-friendly experience as they can.
Remember that Google put a lot of restrictions on OEM skins with ICS. You aren't going to get the heavy skinning on ICS like you did with GB. They did this because they want ICS to look like ICS, not TouchWiz, MotoBlur, or Sense. That's why you have the option to revert to the ICS launcher. If you want AOSP experience, simply stick with Calkulin's leaked version and run ICS launcher until Cyanogen comes out with CM9.
But then again, I don't make six figures and have $600+ to blow on a Nexus, so.
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Neither do I, but I didn't use my upgrade on my E4GT.....I used a combination of my old phones and some video games in a Craigslist trade. So I still have an upgrade for when the Nexus comes out, but I was hoping to keep the E4GT and wait on the upgrade if ICS impressed me enough on it.
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I am running NOVA right now and I am able to resize widgets, there is an option in NOVA settings. i am not sure about AOSP launcher but you can do it with NOVA.
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I am running NOVA right now and I am able to resize widgets, there is an option in NOVA settings. i am not sure about AOSP launcher but you can do it with NOVA.
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I'll check it out when one of the devs get a smoother ICS rom up and running.
I actually went back to Blazer for now because the phone ran a little bit sluggish compared to GB and sometimes my notifications dont work....if I turned system sounds off it would stop my text notifications....and the vibration doesn't work unless the phone is on vibrate.......both things I understand are from it being a leak.
I applaud the dev's for putting up with so much whining. It's a beta build leak and the aosp is an alpha build. If dev dont release a beta build people whine saying it takes to long. When they give this forum whatever they have finished so far... more whining about bugs and stuff not working... -_- .
Hey guys,
I recently flashed between ARHD and LeeDroiD, both already fantastic ROMs, considering the Device just launched. Great respect for that dedication and support!
Tho, it seems both ROMs offer a No-Sense installation, or its possible.
AFAIK, Sense UI 4.0 still is pretty buggy. Memory Management is fuxort and causes Rosie Reboots every now and then. Plus, it seems like Sense / Rosie is causing the Phone to slow down a tad. When I use Trebuchet or Apex Launcher, Screen scrolling is WONDERFULLY smooth. Noticeably smoother than on my previous devices (Desire HD, Galaxy S2 i9100).
Question is: Even tho I always loved Sense UI, does removing Sense / Rosie speed up the phone in general? I would be perfectly fine with Apex or Trebuchet, as they run absolutely smooth so far, even with quite some widgets.
Thing is: I noticed alot of games acting up after a while, little lags every now and then, most likely a sign of cleaning up memory in the background to get the active App (in this case the game) more spare Memory to fill up. Sense UI and its Widgets seem to consume quite alot Memory, and because of the bugged memory management, it starts to lag more and more. After quitting the game, Rosie usually reboots.
I love Sense, always have, missed it alot after switching to the Galaxy S2 back in the days, but to speed up the phone and get rid of occasional lags, I would sacrifice Sense for the time being (until a new Firmware fixes issues).
I am still running Sense 4.0, but before I flash again, I would like to have your opinion and maybe experience with this matter.
Thanks guys!
You can use my ROM in pair with ROM cleaner and Nova Launcher
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Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Whoa, the chiefs are answering themselves
Guys, you 2 got GREAT ROMs running. Still flashing between them
I will try both Non-Sense'd ROMs. Sense really seems effin memory hungy. Hopefully it speeds things up for now
And you 2 keep the goodies commin'!
Your thread just got their attention, because you asked this question in the wrong forum. (-;
Next time pls ask such things in the Q&A forum or in the threads of the roms.
Moved to Q&A.
Please don't ask questions in Development Section.
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Whiskey
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A lot of users are waiting for AOSP Rom and I am of course one of them.
I am now using ATHENS in pair with From Cleaner and it is very fast.
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Hey,
This looks like a good place to ask this question ....
How are the Widgets in Sense 4.0 compare to Sense 3.x in quantity & options ?
Thank you in advance,
Itai.
LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Yeps and my rom on the phone arm
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Sorry for asking in the wrong section. I should've known better, considering for how long I am already a Member
I am currently trying No-Sense. The phone feels faster, indeed. Better response, apps start a little faster, haven't had a Launcher Reboot ever since (but I am using Apex instead of Nova as for now).
Too bad the Lockscreen-Shortcuts are gone, but thats normal since there's no HTC Sense Launcher anymore (Dock-Icons).
LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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LOL, Lee's sense stripper
I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on. Especially with launchers like Apex out there, lightweight and very fast plus customizable, I just don't get it.
Anyhow, we need a good camera alternative asap so we can go AOSP...
Sweeeeet, will try this as soon as I get my new unit.
Does anybod know if the camera UI is gone too or not?
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I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on.
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Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!
The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC
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Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!
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After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC
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I don't like the calendar widget at all - I use a combination of simple calendar widget and business calendars week view, gives me more info over the next few days than a bunch of dots
As for notes I use catch, but there is one very good post it style note app out there but thats not the way I am using notes on my phone and my player of choice, PowerAmp has several nice widgets, so this is also not something I would miss.
What I like and would really miss are the camera app obviously, the tasks widget (for the ability to sync with G and exchange) and the mail app which is really nice. The AOSP is nice too though, so its acutally onle the camera app that will prevent me from going AOSP.
Most probably I am going to try this ROM, AOSP themed sense ROM, once the unlock before answering a call bug is squashed.
why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd
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why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd
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Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...
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Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...
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I don't know how you like the stock camera app >.< Only thing good about it is the UI. Photo and video quality is atrociously bad. I LOVE the UI, but I can't take the horrible compression so I use Camera360 and save my images with no filters instead >.<
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After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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And did someone die in those "several secs"?
I don't know :/ Initially everything I read about it suggested that it used some form of hardware acceleration to make phones run much smoother. However, after seeing many speed tests between the Droid Razr and the Galaxy Nexus (both using TI OMAP4 chips, razr has GB and GN uses ICS) the Razr smokes the Nexus in every aspect. And I understand there are many other factors involved that could play into that, but in general it seems people's experiences with ICS point to it being much more bogged down then GB ever was. I don't know, anyone else have thoughts on this :/
Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.
It probably just depends on optimization and other stuffs. Processor doesn't determine everything, although it does help. I personally like the TW ICS and it's pretty smooth to me.
Ics gapps like youtube is one of the big big reasons why I stay and its just something different from gingerbread.
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Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.
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Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/
ICS on my phone is a minimum upgrade that works good for me but when my tab went from Honeycomb to ICS it made a much larger impact. I think ICS brings all the capable devices together and Jellybean will be the one that solidifies Android.
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We all love something new, and we all love eyecandy.
If GB is working fine for you right now, you won't gain much at all moving to ICS.
The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.
pbassjunk said:
The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.
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So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?
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So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?
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[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*
MultiLockOn said:
Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/
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Google is on a yearly release schedule for major Android releases. Jelly Bean or whatever it'll be called was planned well before ICS was shown to the public.
And ICS on skinned devices isn't much of an upgrade, especially with the mess that is Touchwiz. This is due to the (correct) belief on Samsung's part that Android is more complicated and "ugly" than the average user wants/expects. Some of their feature enhancements are useful, but the visual is just awful. On its own, Touchwiz isn't worse than vanilla GB, but you can't use Touchwiz on its own. There are always elements of vanilla GB that show and that makes the entire thing an uncoordinated mess.
Android has reached a point where Google can work on refining the OS with small features. More importantly, ICS is the start of a unified and unique theme that can set Android visually apart from iOS and WP7 which look much better than any Android phone shipping with GB.
Of course, none of that matters since OEMs insist on skinning their phones. I had hoped Samsung would've followed HTC and toned down the skinning for the new version of Touchwiz, but that was a pipe dream considering the number of SGSII's they sold. My biggest problem with Touchwiz is that it doesn't mesh with the Holo theme at all which I hope app developers would use, allowing for a more unified Android look.
What I'm trying to say is: No, ICS is not that much of an upgrade from GB. But, ICS is that important to Android and its future.
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[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*
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I actually love ICS especially the last few leaks. Everything seems so fast and efficient to me
Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.
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now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.
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Yeah Miui with 4g will be huge! He solved it on NS4G and is building a ROM now. After that (or maybe already) other Miui.us guys like TCP should have access to his code or changes to the code
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I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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in its stock form hell yea
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I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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How do you do that?
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Well, I had it switched from the touchwiz launcher to the stock launcher. I don't think that makes a difference though. Manage apps> all> select an app> if it's a stock app instead of the uninstall option, it'll have disable. Beats the greyed out block that's on GB.
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Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Totally agree with you, and I did the latter because of the battery life and I'm waiting for them to polish out the bugs I found. The title of the thread is asking for peoples opinions and evaluations of ICS. You have to understand that some people are not going to share your point of view.
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There are a ton of EVO roms now, and without reading every single one, I wanted to just ask all of you:
What are a couple good, very stable, and fast ROMS for the EVO with everything working (especially hotspot and 4G)? I'd prefer it to be as bare as possible, I already have all the apps I want backed up. A lot of ROMs (like the one I'm running) claim to be super fast and stable, and not all of them live up to their word. Don't need sense, I'll be using a launcher anyway.
I think you're looking for Digital Karma v7.77; this is pretty much the rom that's leading the pack so you may discontinue your search now...
Reloaded. Fast, lightweight, everything works.
moreno4xl said:
I think you're looking for Digital Karma v7.77; this is pretty much the rom that's leading the pack so you may discontinue your search now...
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Funny enough that was the ROM I was running when I posted this. I didn't like all the bloat that came with it...some of the programs were nice, but most just took up space. And I wasn't terrible impressed with the phone, it wasn't very snappy and responsive at all. Maybe my phone's just a dud ;p
My favorite ROM by far thus far has been Calkulin's EviO 3, but for some reason as of late, even with a fresh install, the market always force closes, especially when using titanium backup. But only on this ROM...anyway, so I've begun looking for a new best friend lol
classic v0.1.0 supermagic or digitalkarma v7.77
digital karma...every other rom ive used had something broken, because i dont like Sense UI as much... ive been using ICS roms :good:
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Funny enough that was the ROM I was running when I posted this. I didn't like all the bloat that came with it...some of the programs were nice, but most just took up space. And I wasn't terrible impressed with the phone, it wasn't very snappy and responsive at all. Maybe my phone's just a dud ;p
My favorite ROM by far thus far has been Calkulin's EviO 3, but for some reason as of late, even with a fresh install, the market always force closes, especially when using titanium backup. But only on this ROM...anyway, so I've begun looking for a new best friend lol
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Hey Wiz just a little curiosity question... Do you have your sd card partitioned? Because that space problem you mentioned is virtually solved with having your sd card properly partitioned. You sound like you have a lot of apps saved to TB and you're restoring to your internal memory, that of course will cause a lot of problems along with unsufficient space.
I hadn't at that time, but since then have. The problem wasn't low space, I just didn't like all the apps that were pre loaded into karma, I didn't use or need most of them. But for some reason, with a fresh install, it just didn't seem too snappy to me. Idk, I could have a messed up phone
The best rom ever for stability and simplicity was SalvageMod. Never had a more stable and lightning quick phone. It isn't supported anymore, but then again, the Evo in general is barely supported now.
http://code.google.com/p/salvagemod/downloads/list
Try it, you'll like it With Tiamat 3.3.7 as your kernel, you'll have like two days of battery life.
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The best rom ever for stability and simplicity was SalvageMod. Never had a more stable and lightning quick phone. It isn't supported anymore, but then again, the Evo in general is barely supported now.
http://code.google.com/p/salvagemod/downloads/list
Try it, you'll like it With Tiamat 3.3.7 as your kernel, you'll have like two days of battery life.
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hell yeah, that's what i was about to say
I'm learning a lot lately here thanx to everyone. My question is... I know there is sense and non sense roms. How do u take a sense roms and make it senseless? I know that senseless is still a sense rom.
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I'm learning a lot lately here thanx to everyone. My question is... I know there is sense and non sense roms. How do u take a sense roms and make it senseless? I know that senseless is still a sense rom.
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Remove the sense launcher and replace it with a different launcher such as Go or ADW and Removing all the sense apps except the ones necessary to keep the phone running.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
Wow so that's all it is to turn sense to senseless
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i think this is a start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769528
just don't remove friendstream
Twinturbo is very satisfactory and reliable, imo. Very fast. Not quite naked, but easy vanilla. Best rom for evo4g I've found thus far.
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Twinturbo is very satisfactory and reliable, imo. Very fast. Not quite naked, but easy vanilla. Best rom for evo4g I've found thus far.
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Sense or non
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DK v7.77 is great. Overall very speedy on my evo. Only issue is that it tends to be a little unresponsive when swiping to unlock or swiping to pull down notifications and I often have to swipe several times.
My favorite right now is SS_Ultra. AFAIK, it's only one of two roms based on the latest evo ota. It's a bit of a wip, but the v3.0 that was released last night is really great - very snappy and responsive and almost 400mb free after flashing and moving dalvik to sd-ext.
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DK v7.77 is great. Overall very speedy on my evo. Only issue is that it tends to be a little unresponsive when swiping to unlock or swiping to pull down notifications and I often have to swipe several times.
My favorite right now is SS_Ultra. AFAIK, it's only one of two roms based on the latest evo ota. It's a bit of a wip, but the v3.0 that was released last night is really great - very snappy and responsive and almost 400mb free after flashing and moving dalvik to sd-ext.
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Glad you're enjoying my ROM.
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thegregbradley said:
The best rom ever for stability and simplicity was SalvageMod. Never had a more stable and lightning quick phone. It isn't supported anymore, but then again, the Evo in general is barely supported now.
http://code.google.com/p/salvagemod/downloads/list
Try it, you'll like it With Tiamat 3.3.7 as your kernel, you'll have like two days of battery life.
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barely supported anymore?
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
ropodope said:
barely supported anymore?
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
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The Evo has basically no more major updates, and most users and developers already had their upgrade available (mines in october), and got a dual core phone, and stopped supporting the original Evo.