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Will Desire be updated to Android 2.2?

I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?

i think it will but there will be a slight delay as HTC need to update Sense to work with 2.2 whereas the N1 has no overlays so can be updated as soon as the update is released
daming said:
I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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daming said:
I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms

If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.

They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.

brummiesteven said:
If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
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Still, it will take HTC alot of work to migrate to 2.2 in the first place. After which defragmentation concept can be applied.
Anyway, the complexity of it will be clear when that feature is out.

abc27 said:
They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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Did you read this somewhere?

salahag said:
Did you read this somewhere?
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.

Look at it this way...HTC supposedly take such a long time because they build Sense to integrate tightly with the underlying OS. It's hooked in. The direction Google is taking is going to mean Sense is a separate self standing app/service...so HTC now have to re-write it probably from the ground up. That's not a trivial task if that's what this means.

abc27 said:
Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
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You're right, all these are promised to be coming to the Desire, and Flash 10.1 is rumored to be coming to Nexus 1 with Froyo.
But that doesn't mean all these features require the update to Froyo, at least I hope so, or the Desire will have to wait for a long time.

salahag said:
I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.

daming said:
I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.

I REALLY hope that the seperated update stuff will be here sooner than later. I am actually quite surprised since I got the Hero that it's not in Android to start with.
And it's the only way Google can avoid fragmentation, which imho is one of the biggest threat to the platform so far.
Warranty issue also depends on where you live. They can put in as much warranty void thingies in as they want. But when my phone has a hardware issue and they don't want to fix because I changed something in the software they will be in trouble. And then they can try and prove my software change damaged the hardware.

I thought it was the other way around?
abc27 said:
I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
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Also, don't forget that HTC has access to early builds and source of future versions because they are building terminals based on it. Porting Sense is probably being done right now, they don't have to wait like we do.

mtbmtbmtb said:
I thought it was the other way around?
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It's not check the thread I made "Rooting and warranty statement"

My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.

Noiz said:
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
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Your wife has made many people here very happy...
Joking aside that's really good news

Any word yet on Android 2.2

Is there going to be an upgrade for the desire ?
Would love that ! (Flash)
Any body got some info ?

of course will be, the question is when?

thats quick ....

Are we talking months or weeks untill 'droid 2.2 comes out
The internet is being a bit tight lipped.
The deisre is lovely, but not finished yet.
flash is nice, divx is vital and 720p video is something I wsan't expecting...
How are we going to get it when its released?
Will it be a user ROM style hardware flash through PC sync or will i just download a file to my phone, click go and 10minutes later my phone is amazing??
(i'm having fun wiping smug faces of iphone owning freinds as they ask what phone I have and i show them, then tell them I've got it for £15/mnth )

you'll get it here on XDA as usual. ready to be flashed on your device as any other ROM

2.2 aka Froyo: maybe next week!!!
I read this on engadget:
Engadget's post about Froyo
I don't really want to root my phone as it's I think really good as it is but I wouldn't say no to Froyo! especially since it apparently boosts performance a lot!
Quote form Engadget: "Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah."

As soon as a Froyo rom leaks, people will rip it apart and mod it to hell to get it to run on all kinds of devices. I'm sure we'll see Paul make a 2.2 Desire ROM, for example and now that HTC has released the Kernel source code, it should be easier to port existing quality roms like Cyanogenmod to the device. They'll all require root access to flash as they're unofficial roms. HTC will probably eventually port Froyo themselves, but that will probably take months.
Still, 2.2 hasn't shown up yet, so no dice. We'll have to wait until google I/O before that happens

it's going to be loooong till HTC themselves release it..but as soon as its out for nexus we'll see it here on xda in no time!

If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.

stingerpl said:
If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire

will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??

kvmanohar said:
will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.

pistonripper said:
It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
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Oh don't be so dramatic. I could fit loads on mine just fine. And i rooted and installed apps2sd anyway. Don't get any Android phone if you expect to be able to install millions of apps.

Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months

inkredi said:
Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
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Same here, haha, I think many people have done this. Nexus one was not available yet in my country so I purchased the Desire. Will definitely flash 2.2 on this baby though. No way i am going to wait for HTC anymore.

Lacroix92 said:
Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Months?? Seeing how things are going with the hero, I'd say they'll release it to the desire once the 2.3 is out. So better think of it as next year.

IMO Desire's owners are very important for HTC, since we are buying their flagship phones. I think they must keep us satisfied, if not, we will buy different phone next time. And I won't be happy if Nexus One owners will get 2.2 and we will not.

BTW isnt the evo 4g an Android 2.2 phone quz 2.1 didn't support 4g correct me if im wrong but if it is the update for the desire wont cost them so much time to port.
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I've recently read that the Evo 4G will be an 2.1 phone as well :/

450% FASTER?! HOLYY SHIITT!!! I cant waaiiit!!!

[Q] Anyone working on a Gingerbread ROM with Sense?

I was just curious if anyone had started development on a GB ROM with Sense baked in? I am trying out OMGB right now, and am LOVING the speed increases, but I am also missing Sense like it were my first born child.
Thanks in advance.

Judging by how efforts to make a Sense+2.2 build for the Droid Eris have been going (there's no official 2.2 for the Eris), I'd have to say that it's going to be a while if it happens. They're doing a good job, but the progress has been slow.
Unless the differences between 2.2 and 2.3 are much smaller than between 2.1 and 2.2, it'll be virtually impossible until an HTC device releases with 2.3 and Sense. Even then, it'll be a challenge.

Skyraider Ginerbread
Really looking forward when a skyraider gingerbread rom arrives one can only hope X..

Porting Sense itself is pretty much impossible. HTC has all the Sense apks deeply tied into the framework. It'd be rather ridiculous to try and extract everything.
I believe a team tried it, and I'm not sure what happened, but I don't see Sense apks floating around, so I assume they failed.
What they ARE doing now is porting the full ROM. Porting an entire Sense ROM to work on another device is a lot easier.
So, to answer your question, you will not be seeing Sense ported to GB. Instead, you will see a 2.3 Sense ROM in its entirety being ported.

nes4r2 said:
Really looking forward when a skyraider gingerbread rom arrives one can only hope X..
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That's what I was originally hoping for as well, but I did some searching through his thread, and someone had already asked him about that. He said that he didnt believe the benefits were worth his time at the moment, and that he would rather work on integrating the new Sense into his existing Froyo rom. Personally, I have found GB to be much faster, but that is just me. Also, the built in SIP stack has the potential to be nice, if I planned on staying with this ROM long enough to get me a VOIP account.

Short, simple and to the point.
gmichaelow said:
Porting Sense itself is pretty much impossible. HTC has all the Sense apks deeply tied into the framework. I'd be rather ridiculous to try and extract everything.
I believe a team tried it, and I'm not sure what happened, but I don't see Sense apks floating around, so I assume they failed.
What they ARE doing now is porting the full ROM. Porting an entire Sense ROM to work on another device is a lot easier.
So, to answer your question, you will not be seeing Sense ported to GB. Instead, you will see a 2.3 Sense ROM in its entirety being ported.
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I can deal with that. I appreciate your response. I did not realize that was how it currently worked. I thought Sense was able to be ported. Bummer. Hopefully someone can get their hands on the ROM from the new Incredible HD before too long. That would be SWEET!

Jdawg183 said:
Hopefully someone can get their hands on the ROM from the new Incredible HD before too long. That would be SWEET!
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That's assuming that the Incredible HD is going to launch with Gingerbread, which is no sure bet.

Sheesh Fiery, why you gotta go and make sense! I hate when people do that! It kills my mood. I sure hope you are wrong. I intend on getting the Inc HD, but by the time I am eligible (June I think), it should have the update anyway. I wish they would put out some info on that phone already, but I fully intend on playing with it at CES in 2 weeks

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That's assuming that the Incredible HD is going to launch with Gingerbread, which is no sure bet.
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It kind of makes sense though (no pun intended) for it to launch with 2.3. The Nexus S launched with 2.3, and I'm sure that all higher-end devices in 2011 will be trying to launch with 2.3 as well to keep the competition level. That, and 2.3 on VZW's 4G network would (hopefully) help to level the playing field against *faster* networks like T-Mobile's *4G* network. XD

When is the incredible HD supposed to come out anyway? I plan on holding off on a 4g phone for awhile to enjoy my unlimited data but I'm curious.
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Gahh Its Lee said:
When is the incredible HD supposed to come out anyway? I plan on holding off on a 4g phone for awhile to enjoy my unlimited data but I'm curious.
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The only official word we have received is that they would be showing some devices off at CES, and are planning on releasing up to 6 LTE handsets in Q1. They have said they would have a 4g Moto device in February, and there have been some leaked pics of the Mecha/Thunderbolt/DInc HD, HTC Merge, as well as a Samsung 4g device floating around. Some are speculating that with all the leaks, as well as a site put out there by HTC saying basically that they were first in 4G for Sprint, TMobile, and will be again, that they will show off the devices and at least one, likely the DInc HD will be available as soon as the next day. So I guess that is my long way of saying, hopefully Jan 7.

T-Mobile is not 4g no matter how much they want to think they are
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If I recall correctly neither is Verizon LTE or Sprints WiMax. 4G is the second gen LTE and WiMax.
But I want a IncHD so bad. Not even for the not even close to 4g speeds. Seeing as we only just got 3g where I live 2 or 3 years back.

You are both correct, and incorrect. Originally whatever group gets to decide what is the fourth generation said that only the second generations of those technologies were truly 4G, however; now, according to one of the sites I check regularly (I cant remember if it was Gizmodo, TechCrunch,Engadget or all of the above), that group has loosened up a bit and said basically, It is not really 4G, but it kinda is, so we dont care what you call it.
Edit:
Here is that article.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/itu-capitulates-admits-that-the-term-4g-could-apply-to-lte-w/

What happens if you take the sense apks from a sense rom, put it in a 2.3 rom, sign and flash? force closes? boot loops? ill try it some day but i have stuff to do for now

Any further update on this question? I know that there are a lot of frankenstein roms out there with aspects of Gingerbread thrown in with the Z Sense 2.2 ports, ie. icons, keyboards, je non se quoi. But I'm certain that there must be some further action that has been taken on an actual GB w/ Sense 2.0 rom.
At the very least, someday soon there should be a stock rom update that can be ported (if the DInc doesn't miraculously get it near the same time that the new 4g devices receive it or debut with it)

There has been a lot of dev's trying to get gingerbread and sense to work but no luck yet....HTC hasn't released a cdma phone with gingerbread yet so its hard to do from scratch
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[Q] Sprint/SENSE/2.3 or 3.0

ok So it is nice to install 2.3 or 3.0 ROMS on a root EVO 4G.
BUT....... has anyone or is: Sprint/HTC have talk about upgrading to the new Ver???
thank you
Rob

kdelinux said:
ok So it is nice to install 2.3 or 3.0 ROMS on a root EVO 4G.
BUT....... has anyone or is: Sprint/HTC have talk about upgrading to the new Ver???
thank you
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If you're talking about when Sprint/HTC are planning on upgrading the phone to Gingerbread officially I've heard rumors of August 2011. Of course, that's simply a rumor.

beatblaster said:
If you're talking about when Sprint/HTC are planning on upgrading the phone to Gingerbread officially I've heard rumors of August 2011. Of course, that's simply a rumor.
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LOL Joy. OK was the rumor going to keep HTC SENSE?

Yea HTC has recently invested more in sense on other Android devices so its a safe bet to assume sense will be on it.
Swyped from my Evo on steroids.

kdelinux said:
ok So it is nice to install 2.3 or 3.0 ROMS on a root EVO 4G.
BUT....... has anyone or is: Sprint/HTC have talk about upgrading to the new Ver???
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Who knows for EVO users but 2.3 is dead. Mostly because it does not run Honeycomb apps. The new version is 2.4 which will run the same apps as 3.0. Sounds like it will be customized for dual core devices.
Unless something gets ported it looks like 2.2 might be last official update for EVO.

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Who knows for EVO users but 2.3 is dead. Mostly because it does not run Honeycomb apps. The new version is 2.4 which will run the same apps as 3.0. Sounds like it will be customized for dual core devices.
Unless something gets ported it looks like 2.2 might be last official update for EVO.
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what you think Sprint will do? Just say eh, and move up or will be another updated to fix the battery issue.

kdelinux said:
what you think Sprint will do? Just say eh, and move up or will be another updated to fix the battery issue.
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My guess is with all the new devices coming this year the EVO will not receive anything beyond 2.2. Maybe some tweaks here and there. Concentration will be on newer, dual-core devices that can run apps like the tablets can.
On the flip side of that.....the new Kyocera Echo has about the same specs as the EVO so if it gets updated no reason why the EVO wouldn't. But, who knows. Personally, I don't see the Echo having a very long shelf life.

Is The Evo 4G Gonna Get Left In The Dark?

I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to think we are gonna get treated like the HD2 was......I mean HTC and Windows gave there dedicated users a great device with the ancient Windows 6.5.....and while we may be running Android 2.2 (which is beginning to become old news) we are running an ancient UI (HTC Sense 1.0) while the new phones are getting Sense 2.0+.....sounds familiar to me with the new Windows 7 devices coming out and the HD2 stuck on 6.5......I really think froyo will be the last major update for the Evo....at least until Q3 or Q4 of this year......What do u guys think???? Id be happier with either Gingerbread or the New Sense or a combination of both......

Its still Sprint's flagship smartphone. The epic doesn't get any love, and I really don't see the shift overtaking it. Does it even have a named replacement yet?
We'll at least get new sense, if not gb soon. Didn't we just see a sense gb rom dump...I lost the thread, but HTC is at least working on something
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I think that the evo will get 2.3. more apps would sell if the evo got 2.4 also...i would not be surprised to see sprint request 2.4 from htc but ill settle for sprint requesting 2.3.
contact sprint if you want to push for an update to 2.3

I dont remember, maybe one of you folks know.
What was the time delta between Google's release of Froyo bits and Sprint/HTC's release of the 2.2 OTA upgrade for EVO?

ZachPA said:
I dont remember, maybe one of you folks know.
What was the time delta between Google's release of Froyo bits and Sprint/HTC's release of the 2.2 OTA upgrade for EVO?
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Official release like 2 weeks since it was announce like 2 months (announce in the last week of may and evo got the update in August)
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Sprint is not releasing new phones as quickly as compared to other carriers so I think the EVO will be a flagship phone longer than most other phones.

mufc1991 said:
Sprint is not releasing new phones as quickly as compared to other carriers so I think the EVO will be a flagship phone longer than most other phones.
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i agree. I want an Evo 2 whatever goodness it may be!

I heard from a friend that works for sprint that LG Optimus 3D is coming to sprint. another industries 1st

PRELUDE777 said:
I heard from a friend that works for sprint that LG Optimus 3D is coming to sprint. another industries 1st
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I don't see how that is possible when from my knowledge that phone is a GSM phone that supports HSPA+, not WiMax, not CMDA.
Don't see this phone coming to sprint.

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I don't see how that is possible when from my knowledge that phone is a GSM phone that supports HSPA+, not WiMax, not CMDA.
Don't see this phone coming to sprint.
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You're correct, it is a GSM device.

optimus came out as a gsm phone to, and not after long it was on all 4 carriers

Well I really hope it doesn't come to Sprint. Knowing them, they'll get it and think that they don't need another flagship phone and we'll never get our EVO 2. Besides, we sure as hell don't need another gimmick phone since the Echo will be the reigning king in that department.

evo2 would be nice, but in all fairnest optimus 3d is pretty good phone. hdmi,dlni, 3d, dual core prosessor, 4.3 inch screen etd. has pretty impressive packege, and would be good addition to sprints line up. about echo I really dont know what they was thinkin. phone looks like its ben desined on a launch break. lame

Well Sprint can ask for HTC to upgrade us to a 2.0 Sense but I doubt that will happen as HTC is more focused on their new lines coming out which is fail on their part.
Sprint needs to learn how to push harder for updates out of HTC and remove the bullcrap from their shipped ROMs like their bloatware.

LG & Sprint have not really faired well together imo. Lutus & Lotus elite = garbage, Optimus besides having Android 2.2 is really no better than the sanyo Zio. The best phone they've had for Sprint was the Rumor 2.
I work at a Sprint store & I see the LGs come back all the time broken & not working right. Keep the 3D on GSM & give me an EVO2 as well.

If you check out the htc community website, there was a response from htc about the update to 2.3.
Linky
Basically we have to wait and see if htc will allow 2.3 to be on the EVO in not at all by passing "quality standards".
This is frustrating...

AtiRadeon1 said:
If you check out the htc community website, there was a response from htc about the update to 2.3.
Linky
Basically we have to wait and see if htc will allow 2.3 to be on the EVO in not at all by passing "quality standards".
This is frustrating...
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Maybe what is taking so long is that they are doing GB and HTC Sense 2.0 for the Evo.
^Joke of the year ladies and gentlemen.

_MetalHead_ said:
Well I really hope it doesn't come to Sprint. Knowing them, they'll get it and think that they don't need another flagship phone and we'll never get our EVO 2. Besides, we sure as hell don't need another gimmick phone since the Echo will be the reigning king in that department.
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I was just thinking how the Echo is going to echo is failure for future generations.

androidcentral just reported New Sprint phone coming Feb. 24. any body? any idea?

PRELUDE777 said:
androidcentral just reported New Sprint phone coming Feb. 24. any body? any idea?
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I do wish is the Evo 2 biut I doubt is too early , maybe another tablet or the iPhone 4 ha ha who knows
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