Hey guys sorry to be a total noob but we all have to start somewhere. I have preordered the evo from RS and this will be my first smart phone. I really have no exp with aps or what these phones can do.
I guess what I am wondering is what is rooting and why is it useful.
Thanks again in advance. I apologize for my ignorance on this topic.
sasigns said:
Hey guys sorry to be a total noob but we all have to start somewhere. I have preordered the evo from RS and this will be my first smart phone. I really have no exp with aps or what these phones can do.
I guess what I am wondering is what is rooting and why is it useful.
Thanks again in advance. I apologize for my ignorance on this topic.
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Rooting is basically hacking your phone.
It is useful to get super admin permission. Allow's you to customize your phone more and remove carrier app that you may not want. There is alot more stuff but I am new myself to Android.
Basically it's useful for removing crapware. It's kind of like when you buy a Dell computer and it comes with useless programs that may be really good but you find no use for. You can also edit things such as wallpapers and enable hidden menu options for features.
Rooting gives you literally UNLIMITED access to the software operating system on the computer.
When compared to a Windows computer think of your default phone as a Guest account. You can generally use everything but anything important can't be deleted or modified, which also prevents you from pretty much modifying anything at all.
Once you gain Root you're on the Administrators account, you can edit anything you want, move, delete, & in general do whatever you'd like with the device. Sometimes this can introduce risk to unexperienced users -- Think about what would happen if you deleted your entire sys32 folder on Windows...you'd break something.
That is the best explaination of rooting that I have read...thank you! Very simple to understand when put into the Guest/Admin scenario.
thanks ohwut that really puts it in perspective !
you also get wifi tethering and can overclock
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Apologies if this appears elsewhere but I have looked without success. If it does then a link to the solution would be great.
Basically I found this site a few weeks ago and since then have been tinkering with my phone. I've tried various roms, added different programs, played about with the settings and so on. Today I have finally got it just how I want it. It is overclocked to run quickly but safely. The today screen is perfect. It contains everything I need including my huge list of contacts. And my theme is spot-on. However usually in life when everything is right something big and hairy appears out of nowhere and dumps on you. Its got to the point where I panic every time I turn it on just in case it crashes and I need to start all over again.
My question therefore is if anyone knows of a utility (or can give detailed instructions) to completely back up the phone. Right down to the user settings, theme and contacts. If possible maybe even to create a rom image of my phone so that if it does ever crash I can reinstall the whole thing from one simple file. I assume this sort of thing must be possible because Kavana and Ricky produce such wonderful roms with various programs, etc pre-installed.
Can it be done? And if so - can it be done by an enthusiastic amateur or do you need to be a tech guru? I should add I don't mind paying if I need to buy a piece of commercial software to achieve this.
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Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
An option
Not sure about the cooked 6.1 Roms. Maybe someone else might know or have tried.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/
I use this and it's well worth it.
if u just mean the saved registry values and what not u can always export the registry so that way if u have to hard reset the phone or if a new amazingly wowlike rom is released and u NEED to flash u can always import the registry values of the chomes and it'll be the way u left it (thats what I do for my myfaves and my programs)
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Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
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No problem, and you are entitled to your opinion. however its replies like that which stop people making posts to forums like this. Everyone has to start somewhere, and one man's obvious "common sense" answer is another man's dilemma.
As for using google... yep I could have done that but google links to hundreds of pages, some owned by people trying to sell software which obviously means they won't be objective. Others have methods which could damage a phone and because I don't know the writers how do I know which methods to trust? Ergo I decided to come to site I know, with people whose technical knowhow I trust, and to search the forum and then ask them for advice. To me, that is common sense. Isn't that one of the reasons that places like this exist? So non techheads can ask guys like you for help?
No offence intended and, for what its worth, you are one of the guys whose advice on this forum has helped me countless times. So thank you for that no matter what. Without your posts I'd never have got this far in the first place! I mean that.
As for the other replies... thanks guys. I will look into the registry stuff. And I will certainly check out the software link. If I do find some info on google, I hope you folks will help me pick the best method to use and avoid bad advice.
Thanks again.
GS
Okay the Sprite software is perfect. And now I've checked it out maybe my question was a stupid one. Still, its nice to have a recommendation from an independent source. I've been burnt in the past by bad google advice.
Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time.
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Hello everyone. I'm thinking on buying HTC magic, i've been reading a bit about the Hacking to run new roms. My only objective was to run apps, or unoficial apps. Do i need to hack the HTC in order to run them ? I couldnt find awser of this question i hope someone can help Thank you,
Regards
A) Your question really doesn't make sense.
B) This is the HTC Hero forums, not the HTC Sapphire (Magic) forums.
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Hello everyone. I'm thinking on buying HTC magic, i've been reading a bit about the Hacking to run new roms. My only objective was to run apps, or unoficial apps. Do i need to hack the HTC in order to run them ? I couldnt find awser of this question i hope someone can help Thank you,
Regards
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well first of all, you posted in the hero section.
about your questions, hacking is too much of a big word. better say rooting.
depends on the applications you want to install. majority of them you wont need to root your phone for them to run. there is an option to enable 3rd party applications in the menu itself. however, some applications do require rooting of the phone, for example wifi teetering, bluetooth sharing...
oh sorry i made mistake :\ but i think it would be the same.
i'll try formulate. I wish to download a pack of apps from the internet. I do not know if they are signed or not (not even know if android has that protection as windows mobile has ) . My question was if i can install those apps on the android oficial OS from HTC.
I Hope it was better formulated the question. Thanks again!
For example. i'm downloading this collection of apps: h**p://isohunt.com/torrent_details/148986681/android?tab=summary
Will i need to root or it isnt necessary? What kind of apps need rooting? Or this kind i do not have to worry about.
Thanks =)
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For example. i'm downloading this collection of apps: h**p://isohunt.com/torrent_details/148986681/android?tab=summary
Will i need to root or it isnt necessary? What kind of apps need rooting? Or this kind i do not have to worry about.
Thanks =)
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from the list you quoted, you dont have to root your phone for the vast majority of them. rooting is required to access proteccted files of the system from your phone
alright excelent. Thank you for your kind help =) I was becoming interested on the iphone but after i saw android, kind of blocked my eyes. the system is great hehe. Thank you again =)
But downloading pirated apps is a good way to get your phone blacklisted & banned from the Android Market.
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But downloading pirated apps is a good way to get your phone blacklisted & banned from the Android Market.
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i don't support piracy, especially not when it comes down to apps for a few $$... but i neither support divulgement of false propaganda.
so please explain how my phone is going to be banned from the market, this is the first time i hear of this?
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i don't support piracy, especially not when it comes down to apps for a few $$... but i neither support divulgement of false propaganda.
so please explain how my phone is going to be banned from the market, this is the first time i hear of this?
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oh how is this detectable so far? why are they banning people from it? wont they loose money that way? If i dont root my phone, most apps i have on this list will work, in that way i wont get blacklisted? Thanks
If you have any questions that may be development related please post them in here instead of making a new thread. Me and hopefully others will try to answer your question to the best of your abilities. Plus it saves me from moving a few hundred threads a day
Thanks!
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Where is the best place to learn Linux Kernel Development, or more specifically, Android Kernel Development (if there's any major differences in the two).
I have a slight Computer Science background from being self-taught in basic C programs, an understanding for Object Oriented Programming, and also learning Java throughout school.
I've heard that http://kernelnewbies.org/ is good as well as the standard www.kernel.com website to grab the latest kernel and start tinkering.
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Where is the best place to learn Linux Kernel Development, or more specifically, Android Kernel Development (if there's any major differences in the two).
I have a slight Computer Science background from being self-taught in basic C programs, an understanding for Object Oriented Programming, and also learning Java throughout school.
I've heard that http://kernelnewbies.org/ is good as well as the standard www.kernel.com website to grab the latest kernel and start tinkering.
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The sites you listed are pretty good, also try and learn a little C, or some google searching does wonders
overclocking issues
is it normal for the phone to not be overclocked as soon as the screen goes out?
akamu23 said:
is it normal for the phone to not be overclocked as soon as the screen goes out?
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Well im not sure of your question, but you can set profiles in SetCPU so that when your screen goes off it can slow the clock down
[Q] Is the G2 capable of Screen Sharing/DLNA
I love my G2, but one feature that I wish the it incorporated is the DLNA screen sharing feature that the MyTouch 4g is touting. Does anyone know if this is something that's possible on the G2?
wrong forum!
i have to ask only because im clueless, wtf is DLNA screen sharing?
thanx, veritas
veritasaequita said:
i have to ask only because im clueless, wtf is DLNA screen sharing?
thanx, veritas
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My understanding of it is this, it's the ability to stream content directly from your phone to a DLNA compliant device, kind of like a networked media storage device would do. It can be a substitute for TV out in some cases. I have some movies (home movies, photos, etc) that I just recorded on my G2 and want to watch them on my TV. Well, my PS3 is DLNA compliant and I would stream these movies through my PS3. If anyone else has anything to add or wants to correct anything that I may have misstated please do.
How can I enable the long-hold action for the Menu button that pops up the on-screen keyboard?
While I am foaming at the mouth to know how to make my g2 dlna, i have a far moar simple question.
Just need some help starting an app.. such as setcpu from visionary.sh.
I know i can set it from app to start on boot, but have run into it not having su permission at that point. yes I am a script or cmd line no0b but any help would be appreciated.
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While I am foaming at the mouth to know how to make my g2 dlna, i have a far moar simple question.
Just need some help starting an app.. such as setcpu from visionary.sh.
I know i can set it from app to start on boot, but have run into it not having su permission at that point. yes I am a script or cmd line no0b but any help would be appreciated.
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I feel that's a bit more specific question to be asked in the visionARY app thread located: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808514
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In regards to my posting, is there a decent Guide or Bible that has the various complexities of the Android Kernel?
What is QMI, What is Fastboot, all these types of important Acronyms and Terms that are not known to the general joe schmoe.
Thanks
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I feel that's a bit more specific question to be asked in the visionARY app thread located: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808514
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In regards to my posting, is there a decent Guide or Bible that has the various complexities of the Android Kernel?
What is QMI, What is Fastboot, all these types of important Acronyms and Terms that are not known to the general joe schmoe.
Thanks
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Your answer to my question was sooo unhelpful. Read that thread my question is posted there, and it has gone unanswered. I have also read most of the threads in general, app, and have done a search with no real clear answer.
So now you can either help me or give me some moar useless links.
haensgn said:
Your answer to my question was sooo unhelpful. Read that thread my question is posted there, and it has gone unanswered. I have also read most of the threads in general, app, and have done a search with no real clear answer.
So now you can either help me or give me some moar useless links.
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Dont get upset
ok , l know !
can someone please help point me in the right direction to overclock my g2. i have read and read but havent been able to completely understnad too well. im a new member here but been lurking for a few months.
93pgt said:
can someone please help point me in the right direction to overclock my g2. i have read and read but havent been able to completely understnad too well. im a new member here but been lurking for a few months.
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If you could tell me what part of the first post here
you dont under stand i can surely walk you through it.
pls tell if you have the temp. root yet and if you have the new ota
93pgt said:
can someone please help point me in the right direction to overclock my g2. i have read and read but havent been able to completely understnad too well. im a new member here but been lurking for a few months.
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Take a look at this thread. Should help you get through it easily.
to tell you the truth i was afraid to root my cliq because i didnt want to brick the phone, so no i havent temp rooted yet. i have the new ota. with the temp root if i shut my my off or it dies will it revert back to stoc because of the backup installed
edit. i downloaded visionary about 5 minutes ago so i did the 1 click root.
First off, its not a backup. Secondly, if you reboot you'll clear the cache and will have to re-root. Its temp, so you won't brick your phone.
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Hey everyone, I have a couple of questions. First off as you can see from my post count I'm a lurker. I can remove/install ROMs, the basics, but never have I tried to add/remove apps or functions to one. So I've found a ROM I love, but it was designed with inactive phones in mind, to make them into second life usable music/video players. It has no phone functionality because of this. The one I'm interested in is by frickinjerms - Ubersonic - I hope I can modify others work for my personal use. Guess that should be a question too.
Would it be ok to add in phone functionality or would it be easier to find one with that already and just remove the fluff I don't want and add what I do?
As I understand it, I can just add it back in, but I'm unsure what files go back in. Is there a resource that outlines that anywhere, or can anyone throw me a bone?
Is it ok to modify the work of others for your personal use without asking, or should you seek approval first out of proper etiquette?
I've been searching through XDA and other sites looking for some basic beginners stuff for cooking up ROMs, but have only come across limited collections. I'm toying with dsixda's Android Kitchen right now, but would love to find other resources. So any pointers to learning resources would be great too.
Thanks!
For the last one, I personally believe that its not necessary to ask before modifying a rom thats for your personal use because only you will know about it anyway, and people do it all the time
You only need to ask for permission if you're reposting your personal version of someone elses rom
Sent from my PG06100
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For the last one, I personally believe that its not necessary to ask before modifying a rom thats for your personal use because only you will know about it anyway, and people do it all the time
You only need to ask for permission if you're reposting your personal version of someone elses rom
Sent from my PG06100
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I figured that was likely the case I just wanted to clarify it for myself. I know people put in a lot of work on some of their ROMs and don't want to step on toes.
Thanks for the response.
You know you could use a rom that does have phone functionality. Just throwing that out there.
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You know you could use a rom that does have phone functionality. Just throwing that out there.
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Whats the point of flavors if you're forced to pick the one you don't like? Just throwing that out there.
I don't think my questions were unreasonable either. I'm not asking for someone to build me something, I'm asking for the fishing pole, not the fish.
So to start,
I'm not the typical "my girlfriends watching me" security hackz0r post.
I'm no expert or even close but I do have a general idea of what and how an Android should run.
I detected the device was playing up, slowing down, screen looking blurry. Odd icons in notification tray. But before I go into the things that I don't have data for.
What I do have data for and would appreciate input on is the following.
S20 Ultra Exy
Less than two weeks old
Cloned apps
Adjust system settings
Apps being given permissions and even admin rights.
I have tried to make sense of logs but it appears that the attacker is using a mixture of Dex, Java, Bluetooth and Odin in some remote access capability.
I have tried factory resets and the cloned apps which have been given there own emulated storage that I can't touch on the device.
An unlocked Odin Bootloader! (see pic) that's when I knew I needed more advice. From what I know once the Bootloader has tripped Knox and secure folder won't work.. SECURE folder appears to work..
Ive had apps go into desktop mode randomly..
Look I don't want to sound like that crazy tin foil hat guy, but It is becoming a trend in my trade. I've just listed some of the easily proved things.
I've uploaded logs and screens to the cloud and able to share with anyone who knows this stuff well.
Basically I've got an $1400 phone security marvel that appears to have been Bootloaded and maybe rooted remotely.
I have my suspicions at the office and I would like to try and trace the attackers location.
To be clear this device is no way associated with the infected.
That Bootloader was accessed just by going into the preload process I was planning on trying to wipe the cache and then saw it the Bootloading option and realised this is pretty serious...
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This was stumbled upon as I accessed the safe load menu to try and clear the cache partion.
Who's up for a challenge?
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This was stumbled upon as I accessed the safe load menu to try and clear the cache partion.
Who's up for a challenge?
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whats the challenge? all that indicates is you pressed the buttons to enter dl mode?
meaning bl recovery mode set by key = you held buttons to enter download mode aka bootloader mode.. keys in this case mean the hardware keys i.e. vol buttons, power buttons are "keys"
Lol I was afraid I'd run into your kind...
Read the first post then get back to me buddy. Yeah great job on explaining the buttons I pressed during start up.....
I'm looking for someone who can identify the initial infection which has now been only stock wiped , and then remotely identify the person(s) and location of the initial attack. That person would need knowledge with Dex, Java, SSH, VPN and Tor....
So if you want to re read the first post, take it all in and realise I only showed you a Bootloader on my s20 ultra. Has this remotely deactivated the efuse or is it a well put together series Emulated system files either on my device or locally transmitted? (Data Transfer has been very unusual, last week)
Anyway bud if you can work it out I've got crypto ready
Atleast read the first post before commenting on a picture mate because you look a bit out of your depth now...
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Lol I was afraid I'd run into your kind...
Read the first post then get back to me buddy. Yeah great job on explaining the buttons I pressed during start up.....
I'm looking for someone who can identify the initial infection which has now been only stock wiped , and then remotely identify the person(s) and location of the initial attack. That person would need knowledge with Dex, Java, SSH, VPN and Tor....
So if you want to re read the first post, take it all in and realise I only showed you a Bootloader on my s20 ultra. Has this remotely deactivated the efuse or is it a well put together series Emulated system files either on my device or locally transmitted? (Data Transfer has been very unusual, last week)
Anyway bud if you can work it out I've got crypto ready
Atleast read the first post before commenting on a picture mate because you look a bit out of your depth now...
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With that attitude, good luck getting any advice lmao
Hey, I only matched the attitude given to me! This forum is full of skilled Developers and I was hoping I explained and provided enough information and proof to separate me from the junk.
I was just lumped into the same category of everyone else... I realise there's a lot of... non white hats in here.
From what It looks like on the outside is I have been remotely attacked and bootloader installed. Im not sure if that's common knowledge? Seems like a game breaker. I literally cannot wipe my security s20 device of the infected system apps.
This is your domain, not mine. I wasnt going to back down to the stock standard response of these posts.
I know the device has been corrupted, fact. The pics prove it. Can anyone else get that on there 2 week old stock standard s20? I am still able to open SecureFolder also.
I don't know because information is hard to find. Feel free to PM me.
Thanks
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Hey, I only matched the attitude given to me!
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You don't get help by "getting back" at someone who may have misinterpreted your question/problem, or looked at it from a different perspective. There are constructive ways to interact with others, and there are destructive ways to interact. You obviously haven't learned that life lesson yet.
Considering elliwigy has been a member since 2011 and is a recognized developer and retired moderator, I'll go out on a limb and say he probably has more experience with potentially corrupted/compromised devices than someone who joined xda this month.
Good luck with your phone.
See we must have very different views, because I see us all as equals. I was spoken down to and treated like everyone else. Honestly read the response and tell me how that was helpful at all to my post.
So if we are all equal I expect the same respect I give, I think the OP was well written, descriptive and provided proof.
You went out of your way to talk to me about life as if, because we disagree, I haven't learnt what you (better than me) have.
It's OK bud I've been on forums since forums were around I know the whole God complex some people get, Never understood.... so thanks for teaching me about life in Dev forum. I know its easy looking up methods and vunrabilities and infecting devices, and that makes you feel l337.
I think it'd be more l337 explaining to people how the **** a s20 has been compromised with a Bootloader while still having access to SecureFolder. Using some sort of Dex Module and Bluetooth module that have both been edited and converted to run in the system and remain hard to get.
So here ya go mate you want to teach me about life show me your qualifications, quickly explain how that would happen. Then once you've done that I'll thank you, apologise for being hasty under the circumstances and then compensate you what your worth.
Because right now it seems no one can explain or wants to explain (more likely) what has happened...
Anyway I apologise mate if you took it to heart, but I know what its like being the noob, during my research I saw a lot of short answers like I got and then they accept it and leave, I'm after a solution and would rather freelance than corporate. If this isn't the place to find the right Hat then let me know.
Here's a question to break it up
How long would something like this take to Analyize and discover first intrusion?
sounds like you need to odin flash OEM firmware, repartition and wipe