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Am I the only one who has touch-screen problems with the vogue on/off? Seriously..

I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..

mine is unresponsive sometimes and i have to tap on the back of the phone to get to work again. i thinks its going out soon

That's what I thought about my old one, I figured I had dropped it to much.. because I did lol but now I got a new one 2 weeks old and I'm running into the SAME problems.. I'm assuming I must be doing something wrong with how I've got **** set-up

j18yo said:
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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j18yo i think that your problem might be that to many programs run when you start your vogue that happened to me before and i hated it but then i heard of a program named "Space Reclaimer" FREE and it made my vogue much more responsive because the program stops any programs that start when you turn on your vogue or any windows mobile phone

I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.

j18yo said:
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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What ROM are you running? I asume that wehn your new device came you loaded it the same as the old one. It has to be something with the ROM you are runnning or a problem with a program causing your issue.

My phone would do this periodically too, with Vin's latest ROMs. I turned off Manila and am running Titanium now. Interestingly - no lags when unlocking since. I'll keep Titanium on for some time to see if that makes it go away. I had an issue with both his current v2 and v4 (which I am running now).

Ive had to replace my screen twice and the whole phone once because of touch screen problems. Thank God for the insurance.

Ah yes... to what OP mentioned:
I do not beleive it is a more pressure thing. I do not think it is more pressure that is required but rather that the phone is non responsive. If you are unlocking and typing a PIN, it takes the PIN and all but it takes perhaps one digit every 5 seconds. That's my experience anyway. So it is just slower, as if something was consuming the CPU and UI is not responsive.

crazylegs91 said:
I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.
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THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans

j18yo said:
THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans
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Update: I don't think CR erases things as much as it kills processes that won't restart. Thru trial and error, I've adjusted my CleanRAM settings to where I haven't had the problem for a couple of days. I'm able to do a Level 3 cleans on a once a night schedule and during the day if need be. In settings, I have it to close all apps, launch startup progs, and display today screen. I have no exceptions listed for either running progs or startup progs. I have the most up to date version from the OTA update in the program.
The program links in my StartUp folder are: poutlook (original on ROM), sddaemon (original on ROM), WLMUpdate (original on ROM), Glossybars.exe (I added this), biotouch.exe (I added as I thought CR killing this was the source of the problem), pocketwit.exe (I added), and SIPChange (I added).
One thing I did do was delete the link for TouchPal from the Startup folder. I did this for other reasons (I use FingerKeyBoard). Not sure if this was part of the problem.
I can scroll with d-pad and no touch lag.
On a side note, can I delete any of poutlook, sddaemon, or WLMUpdate from the startup folder to save battery power?
I'm probably just a bit above a newb so sorry if I don't make sense.
Update: Just for kicks, I deleted the links for glossybars.exe and pocketwit.exe from my StartUp and it started locking again after running CleanRAM. I put them back in and it works again even after running CleanRAM. Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain this. I'm just keeping it the way it is now...

Hmm weird that you removed something not very important like pocketwit an cleanram caused problems again.. someone has to have some info on this??
I deleted everything from my StartUp folder but my SPB Mobile Shell.. I didn't have sddaemon, but I did have poutlook and WLMUpdate both of which I deleted.. then I had some other programs that aren't necessary for the phone.. I have no problems on restart or anything, and the % showed being used is stays around the 30's now instead of 40s/50s.. and when I run programs it usually reachs 50% tops now instead of 60/70% I used to get.
PS: Pocketwit isnt bad I used to praise the program but now I've tried MoTweets and.. I can't think of the other one now.. ****.. it's really good though but it seems to use a lot more phone power than MoTweets so I went back to that.
Pocketwit kept giving me problems, started saying I need to install that NET 3.5 or whatever but when I try to it says I have a later version already so it won't install, then other times it'll work completely fine.. but MoTweets I like better anyways

Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.

crazylegs91 said:
Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.
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Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...

bigboy292000 said:
Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm running a stock Sprint 6.1 ROM. Thanks though.

bigboy292000 said:
Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm not using the TouchFLO interface, does that mean its still on though?
I'm not completely up on understanding all this

This was happening with Vin's Rom for me as well. I was tripping out pressing ON so many times with no screen showing up but phone light on! I believe it could be the power settings. I disabled the "Turn off device" which I believe was mentioned in his notes about the rom.

I gave up on this problem for a while but found something when researching how to disable to cube. I used the registry edit in this thread to disable to cube post #69. I didn't do any of the other steps because I'm not having memory probs (42% with pocketwit in the bckgrd).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368269&page=7
I noticed that biotouch.exe never shows up in the running processes menu in CleanRAM and I don't have the "lock/freeze" scrolling problem any longer and I can run CleanRam without the problem occurring. I can press any item on the screen as well with no delayed response.
However, this stops you from being able to finger scroll and do the "side to side" scroll in Messaging. I never really finger scrolled and prefer using the d-pad for scrolling so losing that functionality isn't a big deal to me.
If anyone can figure out how to keep this working so smooth and have the option to finger scroll, I'd be much obliged. It just seems that biotouch.exe craps out sometimes and locks up the d-pad. If they could both work equally well....

Struggling to properly display 6.5 UI

I recently updated my TP2 to WM6.5 (from 6.1) and am finding that the unit is not comfortable with displaying the new UI. All menus now appear surrounded by messy line structures which occasionally even leave traces after the menu has gone. I also find that the spacing of items in the new menus is overly-large. Whereas before a menu of five or six items could appear on screen, now only four are visible (landscape mode, 8 in portrait) and it is now necessary to scroll through menus where it wasn't before. Is there anything I can do about this?
Many thanks.

AidanBell said:
I recently updated my TP2 to WM6.5 (from 6.1) and am finding that the unit is not comfortable with displaying the new UI. All menus now appear surrounded by messy line structures which occasionally even leave traces after the menu has gone. I also find that the spacing of items in the new menus is overly-large. Whereas before a menu of five or six items could appear on screen, now only four are visible (landscape mode, 8 in portrait) and it is now necessary to scroll through menus where it wasn't before. Is there anything I can do about this?
Many thanks.
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Can you post a screenshot of the graphical corruption you describe?
I might suggest reflashing the upgrade before you get much further, some users have reported that doing so has resolved all kinds of odd behavior after the Tmo 6.5 upgrade.\
However, the resized menus you're talking about just sound like the normal change in 6.5. I think there's cabs around here to revert to the old menu styles, but I'm not sure. The idea of course is they're more finger-friendly this way, but you're dealing with the obvious side-effect of that.

Many thanks. Here's a screenshot as requested.
Hmmm ... cabs which allow me to keep 6.5 yet return to the 6.1 menus? YES PLEASE! If anyone could possibly point me in the right direction...?
Cheers.

AidanBell said:
Many thanks. Here's a screenshot as requested.
Hmmm ... cabs which allow me to keep 6.5 yet return to the 6.1 menus? YES PLEASE! If anyone could possibly point me in the right direction...?
Cheers.
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Ouch, that's pretty ugly! Yes I would start with at least a hard reset, but really I'd suggest just reflashing the upgrade, and see if that makes any difference.
Now I think I've seen cabs for that (the older, or at least smaller, style of WM menus), if not a reg entry...but I honestly can't recall or find where at the moment
EDIT: one more quick question- what carrier are you with?

Thanks for the advice. I guess that will be my best course of action, unless I can track down a menu-changing cab or reg tweak, which would then very possibly negate needing to do a hard reset or flash. I'll give it a while and see if anybody else can perhaps help with such a cab first.
Cheers.

sirphunkee said:
I think there's cabs around here to revert to the old menu styles, but I'm not sure.
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REALLY!?? WHERE???
Please, I'd give my first born if I had one, I HATE the 6.5 menus, the old ones were friendly enough.

I had the same issue as the OP when i updated to 6.5 ...
Graphical anomolies that looked just like his, and it wasn't just menus getting frozen, it was programs and switching tabs and going from one text to another, switching e-mails...
Perhaps the issue with 6.5 is the graphics driver??
- Mark

Guys just do a hard reset and let everything run its corse. 9 times out of 10 this is the biggest issue with flashing a new rom. It's always best that after you flash your phone you do at least one or two hard resets to set all the files and reg entries where they are supposed to be... why? I have no idea but I know when I flash I always do a hard reset and never seem to have the issues others do.

I tried, Aaron, I tried! I bit the bullet and did a hard reset, then re-flashed the 6.5 update and then did another hard reset. And when it was all done the menus were perfect and everything was the way it's meant to be ... ... ... for about 10 minutes! But then from one moment to the next it was back to how it was before. Grrrrr!

AidanBell said:
I tried, Aaron, I tried! I bit the bullet and did a hard reset, then re-flashed the 6.5 update and then did another hard reset. And when it was all done the menus were perfect and everything was the way it's meant to be ... ... ... for about 10 minutes! But then from one moment to the next it was back to how it was before. Grrrrr!
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Does your phone feel noticibly warmer after running for that amount of time?

Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.

AidanBell said:
Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.
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I see...well the reason I ask is because in regular PC's, graphical corruption like that is usually caused by either driver problems, or heat issues...when the processing chips get too warm, they can start to display all sorts of weird things.
I don't know how to eliminate drivers as the cause in this case, other than the fact the issue seems fairly isolated, if there were driver problems we'd probably see a lot more people with this issue.
As for the heat issue, I can offer this experiment for now:
Get a ziplock bag (or something else that won't leak), and put some ice cubes in it...when you've got the phone working where you don't see the issue at first, when you first turn it on, lay it on the bag of ice and let it sit there for a bit while you operate it as you normally would...see if the graphics still go wonky after a while, or if that eliminates it or at least delays it.
EDIT: Yes, it would be a good idea to wrap the bag or whatever with a cloth (shirt, whatever) as well, to keep possible condensation away from the phone. Obviously the point is to keep the phone extra cool for this test, so just use common sense when working out how you prefer to do that.

Make sure you wrap that ice bag in some sort of cloth to absorb the condensation, or you will have a waterlogged rhodium. Even if you were to save a water damaged phone and get it working again, the phone's life would be greatly diminished due to oxidation of components.

Hamsteriel said:
Make sure you wrap that ice bag in some sort of cloth to absorb the condensation, or you will have a waterlogged rhodium. Even if you were to save a water damaged phone and get it working again, the phone's life would be greatly diminished due to oxidation of components.
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Yes, good point..."problem solving" trumped "think it all the way through" there for a min lol. Thanks Hamsteriel, post updated.

AidanBell said:
Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.
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Well that's normal. The reason your phone is warm after using tomtom with the screen on for 30 minutes is because the gps is active AND the screen is on so the phone is going under some pretty heavy usage.
sirphunkee said:
I see...well the reason I ask is because in regular PC's, graphical corruption like that is usually caused by either driver problems, or heat issues...when the processing chips get too warm, they can start to display all sorts of weird things.
I don't know how to eliminate drivers as the cause in this case, other than the fact the issue seems fairly isolated, if there were driver problems we'd probably see a lot more people with this issue.
As for the heat issue, I can offer this experiment for now:
Get a ziplock bag (or something else that won't leak), and put some ice cubes in it...when you've got the phone working where you don't see the issue at first, when you first turn it on, lay it on the bag of ice and let it sit there for a bit while you operate it as you normally would...see if the graphics still go wonky after a while, or if that eliminates it or at least delays it.
EDIT: Yes, it would be a good idea to wrap the bag or whatever with a cloth (shirt, whatever) as well, to keep possible condensation away from the phone. Obviously the point is to keep the phone extra cool for this test, so just use common sense when working out how you prefer to do that.
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Even after reflashing the phone like he said he did that its a little more then that and it's likely hardware..... ie.. warranty issue with HTC. Go to your carrier and show them the phone. They'll do one of two things, the first give you a new phone on the spot.. the second fill out a form and have it so you are shipped a new phone, when the new phone comes you use the prepaid packaging HTC sends with their warranty phones and put your own one in. If you have flashed a custom rom you have to remember to put back your stock rom and get rid of the HardSPL

I must agree with Aaron. I don't consider overheating when using TomTom to be an issue.
I'm afraid you misunderstood my situation Sirphunkee. The display problem is permanent, allways there. It was only "not there" for about 10 minutes after I did the re-flash and hard re-set, since when it's been permanent again. I don't believe I have an over-heating issue, and I can't see how the menu problem could be heat-related, since it's there 100% of the time, even when the unit is stone cold.
If only someone ... anyone! ... could come up with the link to the cab or reg-tweak that returns WM 6.5 to the 6.1 menus, not only would that very possibly solve my problem but would also return me to the much, much better menus.

I think I've discovered what my problem is. I can't give details, but I think it's the "Winterface" UI that I am using. Just now I had cause to replace all the Winterface files, and blow me, suddenly my menus are fine again! That was two minutes ago, so it remains to be seen how long this will last!

UPDATE:
OK, here's the latest: unfortunately within minutes the menus were bad again. I've now updated to the latest version of Winterface, however that hasn't solved the issue. Although the obvious answer would be to change my UI, I am extremely loath to do that as I'm very used to and very keen on Winterface, so I'd like to first try to tackle repairing the issue. Now that we know that Winterface is behind the problem, can anyone offer any suggestions how to address and repair?
Incidentally, I can confirm that it is Winterface that's causing the menu problem. In between uninstalling and reinstalling the two versions of Winterface I played extensively with the device and all the menus were normal.

Have you tried downgrading the rom to 6.1 again to see if the problem persists? And have you searched here ------> Windows Mobile Development and Hacking Specifically the "Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General" Forum?
You're odds of finding the answer will probably drastically increase by doing a search for your answer there. I swear I saw a thread once in there about getting 6.5 menu's on 6.1 Although I dont recall if it worked the other way around.

Graphical Glitch

I am using Myns Android ROM withthe wifi update + 110 pixel density update, booting via SD card and every now and then I get a graphical glitch/system crash that shows as thin, black and white stripes on my screen.
Anyone know what might be the cause/how I can fix this?
If i chose to install to NAND, would it be more stable/faster? And can I simply flash it with a WM ROM to go back to "normal"?
Thanks!!

I cant say about the glitch, try changing the kernel maybe. But your second and third questions have been asked and answered so many times, its ridiculous. But since its your first post, I'll answer:
would it be more stable/faster?
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Yes to both
can I simply flash it with a WM ROM to go back to "normal"?
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Yes again. Also, Try using the search button in the forums, and read the stickys, go through some threads etc.

My apologies for not going through the threads properly.
I half knew the answers to my 2nd and 3rd question, but wanted clarification
I am trying Super Eclair Lite, and whilst wifi works well, I cannot hook up to 3G(gprs/wap/hdspa/EDGE etc)
I can call and make/receive texts though :S Hit this glitch a couple of times too, but i noticed it seemed to happen when putting the device to sleep, so I changed the screen setting to 30 minutes and turned of animations etc.
p.s. How do you remove widgets?

graphical glitches are usually caused by using the wrong panel type in default.txt when using haret, or the wrong NBH panel type when using Nand, to fix the first, edit default.txt, to fix the second flash another NBH with another panel type, (panel type is usually in the filename).
To remove a widget, press and hold on it, then move it to the bottom of the screen.

Apologies for being a totaly newbie, but what are the "panel types"? MY default.txt shows the correct resolution, but I cannot see anything about panels (I might just not be looking hard enough lol!)
I now have a problem when booting from the SD card that my resolution is "bigger" (icons are larger and overlap, menu items are larger too) But it was fine before i rebooted....
Any help for the GPRS issue?

mr_pablo said:
My apologies for not going through the threads properly.
I half knew the answers to my 2nd and 3rd question, but wanted clarification
I am trying Super Eclair Lite, and whilst wifi works well, I cannot hook up to 3G(gprs/wap/hdspa/EDGE etc)
I can call and make/receive texts though :S Hit this glitch a couple of times too, but i noticed it seemed to happen when putting the device to sleep, so I changed the screen setting to 30 minutes and turned of animations etc.
p.s. How do you remove widgets?
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You can remove widgets by long pressing on them until the bottom tray becomes a bin/x or something similar, then drag them to it.
About the 3g problem, I had that a while back after installing a new build, what solved it for me was changing the kernel. I had flashed to nand so I simply got another nbh. For you it might be zimage. If you say you got that graphical glitch when the device went to sleep, then you should try changing your panel time. For a good smooth android experience, you will have to take some time, and flash many different nbhs/updates and change settings etc to get what works best for you.

I am trying out Myns Warm Donut again with the wifi update.
How can i change panel time?

Dunno if this helps but I managed to get GPRS/3G working on SuperEclair. I had to manually put in the APN and made sure the mcc mcn codes were right.
When i changed the codes the APN disapeared from the list but data connection established itself after a couple of minutes.
This is the link I used to get the right APN codes:
http://george.insideiphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mcc-and-mnc-codes.pdf

For NBH files the panel type and resolution is in the filename: KAISIMG-PANEL1-320-ECLAIR.NBH : the filename shown is for Panel1 resolution 240x320.
To change panel type simply flash another NBH with panel2 or panel3, it will not affect your install, since the android nbh's don't format Nand, this is done by the installer
For Haret installs the panel type is changed in default.txt look for the line: board-htckaiser.panel_type and change the value to 1, 2 or 3.

Wow, that is great! I've searched for a solution for this problem a long time, but this is the first thing that works for my Kaizer 130.
Many thanks!

I had android running off the sd card most of the day yesterday, using the panel type of 1 worked well (did notice the odd glitch when coming out of sleep mode, but it didnt crash)
still not sure what the panel type does, can anyone explain? (curiosity really)
However, I tried to use the camera, and after switching to vide and back again to photo mode, android crashed.
I can suffer not using the camera, as its nothing amazing.
p.s. anyone know if you can remap the buttons? as the hang up button puts the phone into sleep mode, the wheel doesnt do much, and other buttons dont do much either.

Panel type refers to the LCD panel, there are 3 different types of panel fitted to the kaiser series, one manufactured by Sony, the other two by Topoly, functionally they are identical, however there are some differences in the electronic controllers fitted to each, which in winmo is detected automatically, however Android is unable to detect the differences and the correct type must be passed to the kernel at boot time, either by boot parameters in default.txt or hardcoded into the NBH. Due to the way electronics factories work, the panel type depends on which one was available at the lowest price, and shortest lead time, when it was required, hence the reason for the confusion, since some people still think that panel type is set for certain models of kaiser, which is inaccurate, since both my KAIS130's have different panels fitted.
Camera does not work in any Eclair build yet, it does in Donut builds, however it's still a little low quality even on the 3Mp Kais130, Video does not work on any android builds very well, if at all.
Remapping buttons can only be done by recompiling the kernel I think, however after a while the button layout becomes second nature, I actually get lost using winmo now, lol.

[Q] Mytouch 3g Slide Screen Issues ? (WARNING : EXTREMELY LARGE PHOTOS)

So recently my mytouch has been getting worse and worse. I'm not exactly sure if it's me or if it's the stupid phone because it's been degrading over time for some strange reason. First of all, the camera is **** for some reason, this is my second replacement phone from T-Mobile and it's extremely blurry for some reason(apparently it's a common problem but not common enough apparently for the tmobile representatives I've met with have seen before). Secondly, it's been becoming unresponsive at times although i kill my apps after i'm done with them(I probably only have internet, and facebook running most of the time). Third, ever since I've factory reset it, it's become very glitchy for some reason. One of the problems is that I would close the physical keyboard but after sending a text and all of a sudden the screen goes black and the only thing to fix it is to hit the power button and press it again to get it off of sleep. Another problem is after i send a text i close the keyboard and the screen repeats but the location of buttons is still where they're suppose to be on the screen.
Pics of what I'm talking about :
First problem(Camera)
http://i.cubeupload.com/s9YJX1.jpg
Decided to take a picture of me creating the thread if you can even see it lol
Third Problem(Glitchy screen)
http://i.cubeupload.com/ANHZ0t.jpg
As you can see the buttons are on as the phone is on but the screen is black and unresponsive, i realize i can still go to apps while like that somehow but to fix it i just hit the power button which shouldn't be happening though
Fourth(Repeat Screen)
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZLSu8o.jpg
As said before unless you didn't read this happens after i send a message and close the physical keyboard...
And thank you for any suggestions you guys have, help is appreciated, also for taking the time to read the thread

Jezussss!!!!
Dude.. you dont need pictures, and if you post them.. resize them first.
Make the thread want to be readable, like-able. Ask yourself, would you read this thread?? and with yellow highlights that no one can even see????????
You also need to post if you're phone is stock, what rom you are on, what version..

xologist said:
Jezussss!!!!
Dude.. you dont need pictures, and if you post them.. resize them first.
Make the thread want to be readable, like-able. Ask yourself, would you read this thread?? and with yellow highlights that no one can even see????????
You also need to post if you're phone is stock, what rom you are on, what version..
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Sorry,thought they yellow would highlight it but it actually made it worse . I think the red is better with the whiteish background....
This is a stock version, I updated the phone to 2.2.2 but i factory reset it and now it says i have 2.2.1 even though i have 2.2.2 features like Wifi Hotspot,Wifi Calling, and images for contacts on messages...

im not sure, i havent had stock phone in a lonnnggg time..
Hopefully someone else can help you out

h3llfire741 said:
So recently my mytouch has been getting worse and worse. I'm not exactly sure if it's me or if it's the stupid phone because it's been degrading over time for some strange reason. First of all, the camera is **** for some reason, this is my second replacement phone from T-Mobile and it's extremely blurry for some reason(apparently it's a common problem but not common enough apparently for the tmobile representatives I've met with have seen before). Secondly, it's been becoming unresponsive at times although i kill my apps after i'm done with them(I probably only have internet, and facebook running most of the time). Third, ever since I've factory reset it, it's become very glitchy for some reason. One of the problems is that I would close the physical keyboard but after sending a text and all of a sudden the screen goes black and the only thing to fix it is to hit the power button and press it again to get it off of sleep. Another problem is after i send a text i close the keyboard and the screen repeats but the location of buttons is still where they're suppose to be on the screen.
Pics of what I'm talking about :
First problem(Camera)
http://i.cubeupload.com/s9YJX1.jpg
Decided to take a picture of me creating the thread if you can even see it lol
Third Problem(Glitchy screen)
http://i.cubeupload.com/ANHZ0t.jpg
As you can see the buttons are on as the phone is on but the screen is black and unresponsive, i realize i can still go to apps while like that somehow but to fix it i just hit the power button which shouldn't be happening though
Fourth(Repeat Screen)
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZLSu8o.jpg
As said before unless you didn't read this happens after i send a message and close the physical keyboard...
And thank you for any suggestions you guys have, help is appreciated, also for taking the time to read the thread
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This is a hardware problem (the repeating screen) that seems to be happening to many people. (it happened to me before which is why i replaced my previous slide). After my 2yr contract is done, im gonna stop getting phones with keyboards because this also happened to my previous htc slider phones

agentg1001 said:
This is a hardware problem (the repeating screen) that seems to be happening to many people. (it happened to me before which is why i replaced my previous slide). After my 2yr contract is done, im gonna stop getting phones with keyboards because this also happened to my previous htc slider phones
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So it's actually because of the sliding part of the phone ?
I'm not surprised, this phone was pretty cheaply made imo, literally a piece of crap :\
I guess I'm getting the new iphone once it comes out and my 2yr contract is done

h3llfire741 said:
So it's actually because of the sliding part of the phone ?
I'm not surprised, this phone was pretty cheaply made imo, literally a piece of crap :\
I guess I'm getting the new iphone once it comes out and my 2yr contract is done
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yeah it's a hardware problem. the ribbon cable is messed up.

ratchetrizzo said:
yeah it's a hardware problem. the ribbon cable is messed up.
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Oh I see, well I tried to get it replaced but HTC was a bit suspicious when they wanted my credit card before anything ......

I have the same issue with my phone
As I was looking at your photos I realized I have the same issue going on with my phone. Does anyone have suggestions on ways to fix it? Personally, I do not believe it is a hardware issue. I do believe it is more of a software issue. That update that HTC offered is definitely screwed up! Ever sine I updated my phone, all of these problems started. This problem did not occur beforehand! My phone was working fine - before this "software update."

Same Problem
I had the same exact problem with the Repeating Screen (and completely agreed about the camera lol). Yesterday I tried demonstrating to my friend the problem, and permanently blacked out my screen. Now, the phone works in the sense that it receives calls, the home keys light up, and the camera still takes pictures. However, with no screen to select any options or perform any functions, the phone has been rendered completely useless. I, too, would like to figure out what the problem is and if there is any possible fix.
Sorry I couldn't be of much help. Just know you're not the only one lol

My girlfriend had the repeating screen issue back in May/June of this year. It was more than likely a software issue, because it became incrementally worse as the phone opened and closed until it came to a point where absolutely nothing could be done when the phone was moved horizontally.
I had T-mobile replace the phone at the time. Unfortuntely an idiot I work with who was supposed to mail it back didn't, I got stuck with an extra $360 on the bill.
Worked out paying for the phone with them yesterday morning, this morning my girlfriend messages me to let me know the screen is acting up again.

Potential Fix?
joodlovesfood said:
I had the same exact problem with the Repeating Screen (and completely agreed about the camera lol). Yesterday I tried demonstrating to my friend the problem, and permanently blacked out my screen. Now, the phone works in the sense that it receives calls, the home keys light up, and the camera still takes pictures. However, with no screen to select any options or perform any functions, the phone has been rendered completely useless. I, too, would like to figure out what the problem is and if there is any possible fix.
Sorry I couldn't be of much help. Just know you're not the only one lol
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I would recommend replacing your flex ribbon. It worked for me, and from other threads I've read, I believe it's the cause of these issues. It's a pretty easy fix ( coming from me, who's far better at breaking electronics than fixing them, lol ).
Here's the flex ribbon that I bought off of Ebay ( it's the cheapest I found and it comes with the tools too ):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170647168235?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
And here's a good video on disassembling your Espresso:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jgFHuVWlig
P.S.: I'd recommend being more delicate than he was with the volume ribbon though, as mine seemed very frail. Also, this video is for replacing the digitizer, so you only need to follow it to get to the flex ribbon.
A month ago, I had issues very similar to the ones you posted. Sliding my keyboard out ( in any way but gently ) would occasionally split the screen or freeze the phone. Even without using my keyboard, the phone would occasionally freeze while "settling" after the boot animation, and sometimes even during the boot animation. Slowly, those "occasionally"s become more and more frequent, until my screen just went black one day. The phone still seemed to work ( lit up when turned on, made sounds, etc. ), just the screen seemed dead. Figured that I was having a combination of software issues ( the random freezes ), and hardware issues ( split & black screen ), but replacing my flex ribbon suprisingly fixed everything.

This is what worked on my MyTouch 3G Slide
i just keep sliding the phone. and turn off the screen then turn it back on. but not turning off the phone.

joodlovesfood said:
I had the same exact problem with the Repeating Screen (and completely agreed about the camera lol). Yesterday I tried demonstrating to my friend the problem, and permanently blacked out my screen. Now, the phone works in the sense that it receives calls, the home keys light up, and the camera still takes pictures. However, with no screen to select any options or perform any functions, the phone has been rendered completely useless. I, too, would like to figure out what the problem is and if there is any possible fix.
Sorry I couldn't be of much help. Just know you're not the only one lol
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probably not, look on ebay for some digitizers, cheapest way to get them...

hardware problem?

hi, had my desire z about a year now, since ive had it, quite rarely ive had a problem of it seeming to have a mind of its own, for example, icons may be selected, or the home screen will slide accross by itself etc. ive always put this down to a trackpad problem.
the other day (after having a miui rom installed for about 2-3 weeks, which was fine untill now), it started acting up strangely, the above problem started happening, but more severe, also the touch screen and softkey buttons would stop working for periods of time (or stop completely untill reset), but screen rotation etc would still be working, which shows that the O/S has not frose and is still working behind the scenes (making me think its a hardware problem).
now, i think ive worked out that this seems to be triggered (mostly) when i open the keyboard. (as also, when the touchscreen stops working etc, sometimes, sliding the keyboard open and close several times, will sometimes seem to unfreeze the touchscreen etc, and will be back to normal, for a while). ive tried doing full wipe and reflashing etc, but i still have the same problems mainly when using the slide out keyboard, which again, makes me think its hardware (possibly keyboard ribbon cable?)
i really dont want to send it off as that means getting it all back to stock etc, and last time i needed the screen replaced, took 6 weeks to get it back!
if anyone could pinpoint the likely source of the problem, id rather replace the part myself..
would anyone have any ideas, as they would be very much appriciated... Thanks...

anyone at all?

I got 2 Zs meanwhile but dont have any problem with the keyboard.
But sometimes when its charging i got the same issues like you - no touch is working and the screens are sliding nearly automatically.
I think this has nothing to do with the keyboard...
Hope this had helped you a bit
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thanks for the reply, unfortunately im still no closer to finding source of the problem, its intermittant, happened lots yesterday, not so much today, maybe the digitiser? its like there is another invisible finger touching the screen..

This would happen when i was on stock froyo, like it would cause the home screen to hang, but if i was ion an app it worked fine. I would use it to refresh of sorts when my phone was hung up or i need to reload my apps from sd lol. Sounds weird I know, but even with stock froyo i had problems with my keyboard but with the prerooted GB its as smooth as butter...

still going on, and getting more frequent, i dont think it is to do with the keyboard anymore. im now guessing it is the digitizer, its like someone is pressing an invisible finger on the screen, roughly in the center. it comes and goes, it happens for about 3 days, then goes away for a couple of days etc.
also there is very little info anywhere on the net that can help, including replaceing the digitizer itself
anyone ever replaced one on a disire z/g2?