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[Q] Removed Bloatware, what happens when i need to update

The tread says it all, So I rooted my phone and uninstalled amazon mp3 and city id via titanium backup. What will happen when I go to update in the future. Is there a way to add these applications back without doing any flashing?
What are my options to be able to update via OTA without having any issues?
I have tried moving the cityid.apk to the system/app folder and installed it from there, but it just installed as a normal application that can be removed.. I figured that I need to install it as a system application. I now know that I should have just renamed them.
Thanks
Droid Incredible 2.2 Froyo (root unrevoked)

Snake42490 said:
The tread says it all, So I rooted my phone and uninstalled amazon mp3 and city id via titanium backup. What will happen when I go to update in the future. Is there a way to add these applications back without doing any flashing?
What are my options to be able to update via OTA without having any issues?
I have tried moving the cityid.apk to the system/app folder and installed it from there, but it just installed as a normal application that can be removed.. I figured that I need to install it as a system application. I now know that I should have just renamed them.
Thanks
Droid Incredible 2.2 Froyo (root unrevoked)
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Amazon MP3 is in the Market. You should have rooted, used ROM Manager to back up your system, and then removed bloat. Most ROM's have these items removed, some still use CityID or another version that does the same thing.
My suggestion is if you are rooted, you can backup your apps and such, just run another ROM.
I couldn't find CityID in the Market, but various ROM postings may have the apk for download if you wanted to re-add it. I would check those postings to see if it is listed there, and make a directory to move the files to if you think you may need them again! Prevents headaches, especially if they are needed due to corruption or something weird.

Correct me if I am wrong, the only reason I wanted to restore these applications was so I could update when honeycomb or whatever the new Update is going to be.
With that being said, could I just downgrade my phone using the PB31IMG.zip , that would wipe everything out.. removing root, and it would bring back original files that were on phone ( city id etc.) then the phone would automatically update itself over the air? problem solved?

You could just run ruu on it if I'm not wrong
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Well now I am really confused, the cityid.apk file just randomly showed back up in the browser... so i went and looked and it says it's a system app and wont let me uninstall it now... haha... this is so weird, so now I just need to find the original amazon mp3 then i will put it back in there and see if that works.

Is anyone able to get the Amazon Mp3.apk and upload it and send to me. I would like to get the one that originally came with my phone. Version 1.7.67 it is the one that came with stock froyo

Nandroid backup failure?

So I'm not entirely sure where to start with this one. I'm running myn's roms... was on RLS3 and went to update to RLS4 the other day. Did a nandroid backup via clockwork/ROM manager. The install of the new ROM took forever (over 30 minutes) and when it finished, for whatever reason clockwork didn't restart automatically like it usually does. When I did reboot the unit, it hung forever (I actually left it plugged in and booting while I took an hour nap)... so I finally rebooted it into recovery and restored my backup.
When the backup loaded I reset the phone, and the image was very broken. Actually to be fair, the image seemed fine... except for whatever system android uses to keep track of installed apps was corrupted. Most of my apps were missing, including core google ones. The marketplace, all of my file browsing apps (astro and root explorer) and even things like live wallpapers and maps were missing.
Next, I tried several things, including doing a fresh wipe and install of a working ROM (tried both myn 2 and 3) and then tried restoring my backup again... no matter what the backup took me to this point (and yes I understand why that is... I was just hoping that the restore wasn't actually restoring some file that the ROM would put back... as unlikely as that was).
So at this point I'm over losing all my stuff to reinstall ... but I really want to keep my text messages and call history. I can't get anything installed to back them up though... since the market is missing, as well as anything like astro, etc. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for extracting the SMS/MMS and call history stuff out of the backup I have... or getting them backed up somehow when I'm loaded into my botched recovery. I still have full internet, call and SMS access... so if there were some web-based backup I could even run that (although I don't think there is). I'm at a bit of a loss... I'd really like to get the data I want backed up before I start new. At the moment I'm still using the phone as I can still get core functionality.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know. Thanks!

install AMON recovery to do your NAND's, install SMS backup and that will save your texts, and titanium backup any apps you want saved with data. thats how i do it, oh and install app brain as well to keep track of your installed apps

xlGmanlx said:
install AMON recovery to do your NAND's, install SMS backup and that will save your texts, and titanium backup any apps you want saved with data. thats how i do it, oh and install app brain as well to keep track of your installed apps
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It sucked when romanger and clock work broke for me. Never again.
Clock doesn't wipe correctly. Search it.

Thanks... appreciate the reply... although still hoping someone can point me in the right direction to get what I currently have backed up considering the half-broken state my phone is currently in... either getting it out of the backup file somehow or somehow getting stuff installed on my phone without a market or a file manager.

If you flash the rom overtop of itself you want lose anything, so try that
agent0014 said:
Thanks... appreciate the reply... although still hoping someone can point me in the right direction to get what I currently have backed up considering the half-broken state my phone is currently in... either getting it out of the backup file somehow or somehow getting stuff installed on my phone without a market or a file manager.
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So oddly enough that didn't work in of itself... but it did start me in the right direction. Most of my apps were still missing, but for whatever reason reflashing the rom made Astro re-appear in my app drawer. From there I browsed to the system/app folder and was able to install MyBackup Pro over itself somehow. I ran that to backup all my user data and wiped clean. My texts and other data are restoring right now on the fresh image.
So clockwork is definitely the culprit? What's a good alternative? I got used to using that for so long, I'm not even sure what else is out there anymore.
Thanks for your help G'man!

Go to clockwork and down at the bottom click install alternate recovery, viola
agent0014 said:
So oddly enough that didn't work in of itself... but it did start me in the right direction. Most of my apps were still missing, but for whatever reason reflashing the rom made Astro re-appear in my app drawer. From there I browsed to the system/app folder and was able to install MyBackup Pro over itself somehow. I ran that to backup all my user data and wiped clean. My texts and other data are restoring right now on the fresh image.
So clockwork is definitely the culprit? What's a good alternative? I got used to using that for so long, I'm not even sure what else is out there anymore.
Thanks for your help G'man!
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[Q] Titanium Backup, does it actually work?

I had a rooted Hero before this and now I have rooted Continuum...I've hit "Problems?" and downloaded the busybox update.......I select Force Remove App.....Titanium Backup says my phone will restart twice....but it only restarts once, and the program I'm trying to remove is still there. I get no error messages.
I had similar experiences on the Hero. What am I missing? I would really like to get rid of this extra crap Verizon put on my phone.

spearoid said:
I had a rooted Hero before this and now I have rooted Continuum...I've hit "Problems?" and downloaded the busybox update.......I select Force Remove App.....Titanium Backup says my phone will restart twice....but it only restarts once, and the program I'm trying to remove is still there. I get no error messages.
I had similar experiences on the Hero. What am I missing? I would really like to get rid of this extra crap Verizon put on my phone.
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I will say this once,and only once. Do not uninstall bloatware.
If you do delete it, you will not be able to get any OTA updates, but yes it does work. You can ask around, there a few people the deleted it, and they were stuck on DJ20 for a while.

Rather than uninstalling bloatware, why not just freeze it with TiBu? It will have the same effect, but then, you just need to thaw all the bloat when an update is released, and then you can update, and just refreeze whatever is there that you don't want again.

I am an idiot. I finally realized what I've been doing wrong with TB. I was always long-pressing the programs in the backup/restore view. It brought up a window of options but never what I thought I should see. Quick tapping an item is what I apparently NEVER thought to do until now. What an imbecile!
By the way, the freezing suggestion is nice, but you have to pay for the app to do that.
Thanks to the dev work, I'll revert to my former method of backing the whole ROM up with CMR and flashing a new clean ROM.
thanks for the responses

TiB
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[Q] fix the evo market after root

After rooting my sprint evo 4g my market no longer works. I have tried the advice from gat (gadgets and tablets) but that did not work. What do I do???

Need more specifics. "Not working" is very general haha
Does this mean:
1) Won't load
2) Won't download apps
3) Isn't showing up at all
4) Is just force closing like it's its job

It will let me even search for an ap most of the time but will not let me download and will force close every time. This puts a damper on tethering because I cannot download the wireless tether after root ap. I'm still on clockwork mod and rooted via unrevoked

I'm actually downloading another ROM, MikFroYo 4.5, in hopes that flashing another ROM would give the market another chance to work properly. All the people I know that have rooted androids, including one with an evo, have fully working markets and can still download aps. I am not sure of another way to get the wireless tether after root or titanium backup. I have been trying to learn from forums and google but I seem to be coming to a dead end on this topic. It seems to be happening to some other people but nobody has given them a useful answer it seems. The best answer I found was from GAT but they were specifically doing the process on a tablet and after trying this process my market was still a lame duck. Also, while someone is checking on this thread (thanks so much by the way, this is the second time I tried to get some feedback on this forum and the first went by unanswered for about a half a week), what would be a good ROM that would not take away 4g capabilities, let me get an ap back like sprint t.v. but still allow most sprint aps (nascar, blockbuster, nova, etc.) to be deleted (although I think I can do this with titanium backup if I can ever get it downloaded), improve speed and battery life, and not be very glitchy/buggy?

n8smashbroking said:
I'm actually downloading another ROM, MikFroYo 4.5, in hopes that flashing another ROM would give the market another chance to work properly. All the people I know that have rooted androids, including one with an evo, have fully working markets and can still download aps. I am not sure of another way to get the wireless tether after root or titanium backup. I have been trying to learn from forums and google but I seem to be coming to a dead end on this topic. It seems to be happening to some other people but nobody has given them a useful answer it seems. The best answer I found was from GAT but they were specifically doing the process on a tablet and after trying this process my market was still a lame duck. Also, while someone is checking on this thread (thanks so much by the way, this is the second time I tried to get some feedback on this forum and the first went by unanswered for about a half a week), what would be a good ROM that would not take away 4g capabilities, let me get an ap back like sprint t.v. but still allow most sprint aps (nascar, blockbuster, nova, etc.) to be deleted (although I think I can do this with titanium backup if I can ever get it downloaded), improve speed and battery life, and not be very glitchy/buggy?
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Okay, go to the 2nd post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900584
There's a .zip for the stock android market. Boot into recover (if you don't have rom manager, turn off phone, volume down + power, select recovery) and flash the zip. Should install the working stock market. I used it when I uninstalled updates using Titanium Back-up and it deleted my whole market.

thanks dude i'll check it out.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Okay, go to the 2nd post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900584
There's a .zip for the stock android market. Boot into recover (if you don't have rom manager, turn off phone, volume down + power, select recovery) and flash the zip. Should install the working stock market. I used it when I uninstalled updates using Titanium Back-up and it deleted my whole market.
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eww, I had high hopes but it still force closes when I try and download wireless tether. Any other suggestions? In the mean time I'm going to see if using another ROM might help the situation...maybe give it a fresh start or something.

Yeah same story after new ROM...not able to download anything yet anybody else had the same problem and came out on top/would love to hear your solution?

What rom were u running first? Try flashing a stock rooted rom? If that doesn't work try ruu but leave s-off so it's easy to re-root quckly.

dkdude36 said:
What rom were u running first? Try flashing a stock rooted rom? If that doesn't work try ruu but leave s-off so it's easy to re-root quckly.
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clockwork standard untouched from unrevoked and now mikfroyo 4.5...still no luck. I'll try another ROM but I think I have to have a new market or something like that. Is ruu unrooting?

Are you wiping data and cache each time you flash a new ROM? If not, you probably need to.
Are you restoring apps with Titanium Backup after flashing the new ROM? If so, only restore user apps (i.e. don't restore system apps). I've seen some squirrelly things happened when restoring system apps.
Last thing, from your home screen, try going in to Settings...Applications...Manage Applications. Tap on the "All" tab at the top and scroll down to Market and select it. Tap on the "Clear Data" button under Cache.

think i got it under control

You need to reflash gapps if you flashed a new cm rom
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[Q] trouble with my S2

So for the past 2 months i have been having issues with my S2. I been wanting to do a factory reset on the phone but I am a little reluctant. Here is what is going on.
My phone has been pretty much freezing every time it can, and i mean freezing for a good amount of time.
It still under Android 4.0.3, not yet updated to latest because I am a bit scare. I have not followed up with anything lately. And I have been trying to catch up but for some reason today, everything seems to be for me like I am reading Chinese.
When I first and only time rooted my phone was last year and it was for the sole purpose of installing S Voice, a feature that i never even use. At the same time, to do so, i had to delete a few apps. Now, i checked Titanium backup and they showed backed up.
So here is what i want to do. My system app, shows 0MB free. I will like to uninstall completely Svoice, update my phone to the lates and start fresh. Then, reroot, so i can only freeze apps, not uninstall them.
Will this be possible with missing system apps? will i run the risk or bricking or what steps should i take first?
For clockwork, i think i still am under 5.0.2.7 touch, that i have not even update. Thats how far back i am. Looking forward to get back in the game. Will continue to do some more search and reading.

As for you wanting to go back to stock, i would reflash 4.0.3 stock (that would give you those missing system apps and less of a risk for bricking ) then use titanium to recover your other apps that is missing.. As far for root, you can do that after the reflash or after you install apps from titanium, your choice.
This is what i did when i had some problems and works for me
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