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Im going to root my phone usings toast method...do I do the ota or not.
zikronix said:
Im going to root my phone usings toast method...do I do the ota or not.
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toast will probably recommend not to use the OTA update and recommend you use his separate update files ....
zikronix said:
Im going to root my phone usings toast method...do I do the ota or not.
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No don't update
ok...thats in line with what i was reading. as he was saying yes the root works after the ota but we may find that you need the shipping version of the rom...in order to maybe unlock the nand. and if you ota you may lose that.
kinda hard to make a definitive answer for that..I'm happy to say that although I ran the OTA, the root method still worked.
I think, though, the point is that not running OTAs is just a good rule o' thumb cuz y'never know what may happen.
p.s. you do realize that if you are, indeed, planning to root..there's no reason to run the OTA cuz root takes you backward, right?
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kinda hard to make a definitive answer for that..I'm happy to say that although I ran the OTA, the root method still worked.
I think, though, the point is that not running OTAs is just a good rule o' thumb cuz y'never know what may happen.
p.s. you do realize that if you are, indeed, planning to root..there's no reason to run the OTA cuz root takes you backward, right?
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was not aware that it would take ya backwards...all though that makes sense...after rooting though and doing the ota update we know root sticks so...that would bring you current again. which though when i was reading that the ota update may or may not prevent you from doing the nand unprotect later on
jesus...
did you read anything before you posted up?
not to be an ass, but do a little research. and, this is not development. this is q and a. post your questions there.
Yes I read the problem is there is 4 different threads at least with conflicting info.
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Hi guys, I am brand new so bear with me. I JUST got my EVO today, and it came with the upgrated .6 software. After 2 hours of trying, I finally figured out that the software prevents you of rooting your phone.
So I guess what I need to do is roll back to a different version. I've read some threads about it, and I am feeling a bit confused. Most of the threads assume common knowledge, and that is something I just dont have yet. Could someone post a step by step walkthrough on how to get my phone back to a state that I can root it? Or maybe its just easier to just wait till someone figures out a way to root the phone using the .6 software? Any help would be appreciated, cause Im sure as hell not going to pay Sprint 30 bux a month for tethering....
kuthedude said:
Hi guys, I am brand new so bear with me. I JUST got my EVO today, and it came with the upgrated .6 software. After 2 hours of trying, I finally figured out that the software prevents you of rooting your phone.
So I guess what I need to do is roll back to a different version. I've read some threads about it, and I am feeling a bit confused. Most of the threads assume common knowledge, and that is something I just dont have yet. Could someone post a step by step walkthrough on how to get my phone back to a state that I can root it? Or maybe its just easier to just wait till someone figures out a way to root the phone using the .6 software? Any help would be appreciated, cause Im sure as hell not going to pay Sprint 30 bux a month for tethering....
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ausch30 said:
You need to get back to the release version of the software, ends in .1. Since the version you are using is newer (.6) the system is rejecting the flash.
This thread has the version of the software the evo was released with. It's an .exe file so you just save it somewhere on your computer and double click.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
If you look at step 2 here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835
it tells you the steps and files required to enable the downgrade.
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Thank that man. ^^^
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Thank that man. ^^^
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Yea, I dont fully understand what step 2 means. So I get the .exe first? then what? Also what does "go into your shell" mean? I'm sure I'm making it more complicated than it really is.
I had .6 on mine and used biles guide and it worked fine. It's in the development section. That may help
I just went and looked (to make sure I wasn't crazy) and it does work with .6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004
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Hello,
Just wondering if root is supported for 2.2 yet? I have not seen anything but also not sure if I have missed it.
thanks
dblake15 said:
Hello,
Just wondering if root is supported for 2.2 yet? I have not seen anything but also not sure if I have missed it.
thanks
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Not yet. I wish I knew more about how to find and expose exploits. I'm such a noob. I tried a bunch of old methods, but couldn't get any to quite work. I'm guessing that the Flash flaw should work, we just need to get a custom hack to exploit it in 2.2. I hope someone starts working on this soon. I did the update on purpose, but I wouldn't mind having root again. I can wait until then, just hope someone figures it out soon, because there will be a lot of people after the update looking to root, and I don't think that downgrading is going to be an option. I'm guessing most devs are waiting for the final release before they start hacking it.
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Not yet. I wish I knew more about how to find and expose exploits. I'm such a noob. I tried a bunch of old methods, but couldn't get any to quite work. I'm guessing that the Flash flaw should work, we just need to get a custom hack to exploit it in 2.2. I hope someone starts working on this soon. I did the update on purpose, but I wouldn't mind having root again. I can wait until then, just hope someone figures it out soon, because there will be a lot of people after the update looking to root, and I don't think that downgrading is going to be an option. I'm guessing most devs are waiting for the final release before they start hacking it.
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Why on Earth would you do the update on purpose when there are several threads posting rooted 2.2 installs here on XDA?
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Why on Earth would you do the update on purpose when there are several threads posting rooted 2.2 installs here on XDA?
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I had my reasons. I really don't care about root right now. The only thing I want root for now is to fix my PRI to be back to official, but since that isn't even possible yet, I decided to just update to completely stock without root. I don't use root enough to outweigh the possible security risks. I used to use it for tethering, but since I found out that I can turn tethering on and off and just pay for it prorated, its worth it. I just would rather pay and have it legally than have it free. And since I can do so affordably, I decided to just forget about it all together. Anyways, I'm willing to test a root method when someone comes out with one.
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I had my reasons. I really don't care about root right now. The only thing I want root for now is to fix my PRI to be back to official, but since that isn't even possible yet, I decided to just update to completely stock without root. I don't use root enough to outweigh the possible security risks. I used to use it for tethering, but since I found out that I can turn tethering on and off and just pay for it prorated, its worth it. I just would rather pay and have it legally than have it free. And since I can do so affordably, I decided to just forget about it all together. Anyways, I'm willing to test a root method when someone comes out with one.
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True, each has his own opinion and reasons. The rooted Froyo are still not fully functional at this point anyhow, that is one more thing that stops me from upgrading to it. I bought a phone with an 8mp camera for a reason. (granted it's no DSLR)
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I bought a phone with an 8mp camera for a reason. (granted it's no DSLR)
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To make phone calls?
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To make phone calls?
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Well if that's all we all did, we'd still be using phones that came with a cord and a briefcase.
Fella's, there is froyo 2.2 rooted fully functioning. camera works, as well as 4G. i have my phone on 2.2 fully rooted and let me tell you, its 1000% better than 2.1. there is actually someone who already started making their own custom roms, but he posted the only 50% of the people reported that wifi tethering was working, but if you do the "STOCK WITH ROOT" it all works.
here is the link, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_ROMs
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Fella's, there is froyo 2.2 rooted fully functioning. camera works, as well as 4G. i have my phone on 2.2 fully rooted and let me tell you, its 1000% better than 2.1. there is actually someone who already started making their own custom roms, but he posted the only 50% of the people reported that wifi tethering was working, but if you do the "STOCK WITH ROOT" it all works.
here is the link, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_ROMs
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good man for showing initiative. i think they are looking for a way to root the 2.2 OTA update. Not for a 2.2 that has been rooted already. 2 different fish to fry
I just managed to get this device from someone the other day. Having been an iphone 5c user for a while, going to a 5c after my last frustrating and horrible android experience with an HTC inspire device, I am back on android for the storage expansion so that I can play emulator games- only to find myself pulling my hair out ONCE AGAIN after all the numerous conflicting advice/ threads/tutorials out here which I have countless wasted hours on already. I don't have time to read through tutorials promising a downgrade from lollipop to kit kat, in hopes of a root so I can pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my device... constantly stuck on odin failing and what have you, so just give it to me dry and clean. Please help as this is extremely frustrating and annoying.
Can I or can I not root this device? if so How? ( please provide detailed instructions as i don't know what the lingo is around here) If not i'm putting this thing right back on craigslist where I got it from. I am running 5.0.1
All I want to do is pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my note 4, thought I would be able to do that until sixaxis said it needed 'root access' :silly:
if theres a way to circumvent this, please let me know. I do NOT WANT to use a corded controller with this. Battery life is already kinda sucky on this phone so i'll ened to charge the device as i'm playing
Sunaj1 said:
I just managed to get this device from someone the other day. Having been an iphone 5c user for a while, going to a 5c after my last frustrating and horrible android experience with an HTC inspire device, I am back on android for the storage expansion so that I can play emulator games- only to find myself pulling my hair out ONCE AGAIN after all the numerous conflicting advice/ threads/tutorials out here which I have countless wasted hours on already. I don't have time to read through tutorials promising a downgrade from lollipop to kit kat, in hopes of a root so I can pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my device... constantly stuck on odin failing and what have you, so just give it to me dry and clean. Please help as this is extremely frustrating and annoying.
Can I or can I not root this device? if so How? ( please provide detailed instructions as i don't know what the lingo is around here) If not i'm putting this thing right back on craigslist where I got it from. I am running 5.0.1
All I want to do is pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my note 4, thought I would be able to do that until sixaxis said it needed 'root access' :silly:
if theres a way to circumvent this, please let me know. I do NOT WANT to use a corded controller with this. Battery life is already kinda sucky on this phone so i'll ened to charge the device as i'm playing
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Have not read enough, if you have a Verizon locked bootloader... Recommend to put it right away to Craigslist because no root has been found good luck
If you can deal with root on a temp basis, meaning it is lost every reboot, then go that route. Otherwise as EdrickMg stated, it is not available.
How do I know whether the bootloader is locked or not? I might want to buy an N910V, as its much cheaper than international/Indian version, but I need to make sure whether or not the bootloader is unlocked. Cause I can't even think about not rooting a phone in first one hour of purchase. What could I ask the seller to confirm about the bootloader?
If it's a Verizon Note 4, then the bootloader is locked. There is no permanent rooting method for this phone. People are still hopeful that there might be one coming, but I'm willing to bet that there'll never be a method to root it. This phone has been out since October of 2014, with no root method found. There is a temporary root method that will allow you to root your phone, but the next time you reboot, it's gone and your phone is re-locked. To me, that's a lot of effort for something that you lose whenever you reboot your phone, but that's just my opinion. Also, this temporary root is just root - it doesn't unlock your bootloader.
If you absolutely must have a rootable phone with unlocked bootloader, then look elsewhere.
The only thing that we do have is debloater, which is a method that allows us to turn off and block almost anything we want. For me, that's enough, because the only reason I'd want root is to uninstall all of the crap that comes with this phone. It doesn't get rid of the junk, it just turns it off and keeps it from running.
If you want root to be able to install an ad blocker or to install custom kernels and/or ROMs, you cannot do it on this phone and likely (in my opinion), never will be able to.
Okay, I don't understand all these contract things as we don't have them in our country, but Verizon Note 4 and N910V, they are different? If not, how come there is a custom ROM and kernel for the SM-N910V model? The phone does show a red screen where Verizon is written on it. I am not understanding this!
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Okay, I don't understand all these contract things as we don't have them in our country, but Verizon Note 4 and N910V, they are different? If not, how come there is a custom ROM and kernel for the SM-N910V model? The phone does show a red screen where Verizon is written on it. I am not understanding this!
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There is a Verizon Note 4 Developers Edition that comes with an unlocked bootloader and it is rootable. I had to buy it straight from Samsung at full retail price. Totally worth it in my opinion. It is no longer available for sale on the Samsung site though
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If it's a Verizon Note 4, then the bootloader is locked. There is no permanent rooting method for this phone. People are still hopeful that there might be one coming, but I'm willing to bet that there'll never be a method to root it. This phone has been out since October of 2014, with no root method found. There is a temporary root method that will allow you to root your phone, but the next time you reboot, it's gone and your phone is re-locked. To me, that's a lot of effort for something that you lose whenever you reboot your phone, but that's just my opinion. Also, this temporary root is just root - it doesn't unlock your bootloader.
If you absolutely must have a rootable phone with unlocked bootloader, then look elsewhere.
The only thing that we do have is debloater, which is a method that allows us to turn off and block almost anything we want. For me, that's enough, because the only reason I'd want root is to uninstall all of the crap that comes with this phone. It doesn't get rid of the junk, it just turns it off and keeps it from running.
If you want root to be able to install an ad blocker or to install custom kernels and/or ROMs, you cannot do it on this phone and likely (in my opinion), never will be able to.
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I'm happy with a temp root, itll fit my purposes. Can you point me in that direction? and the debloaters direction?
yes sad, so sad that Permanent root was never fount! I am disappointed with Verizon over this......
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I'm happy with a temp root, itll fit my purposes. Can you point me in that direction? and the debloaters direction?
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It's all in topics in the forum. Easy to find if you look.
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It's all in topics in the forum. Easy to find if you look.
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app
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Yea, theres SO much stuff in the forum, I honestly dunno what to look for. I'll keep at it, thanks
So what if u have a bootloader that starts with 15? I got 90% on kingoroot running a crap ton of random apps in the backgroundI thought I had it but bam root failed keep in mind I'm on marshmallow to anyone else get 90% are we really close or is it just a trick lol
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So what if u have a bootloader that starts with 15? I got 90% on kingoroot running a crap ton of random apps in the backgroundI thought I had it but bam root failed keep in mind I'm on marshmallow to anyone else get 90% are we really close or is it just a trick lol
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So your bootloader is unlocked already, correct? You need to have an unlocked bootloader and be running Lollipop, here's the thread that shows you how/what to do...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...asy-guide-how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-t3454593
I used the instructions in that thread and didn't have any issues.
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So your bootloader is unlocked already, correct? You need to have an unlocked bootloader and be running Lollipop, here's the thread that shows you how/what to do...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...asy-guide-how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-t3454593
I used the instructions in that thread and didn't have any issues.
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Thanks bud I'll try it tonight! I gone like 6 pages into Google trying to find something that works I got a little confused on the baseband version part. This is a silly question but if I have mine on
N910VVRU2CPF3 and use Odin and flash version: N910VVRU1ANJ5 it won't brick my device? And no my bootloader is not unlocked yet
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Thanks bud I'll try it tonight! I gone like 6 pages into Google trying to find something that works I got a little confused on the baseband version part. This is a silly question but if I have mine on
N910VVRU2CPF3 and use Odin and flash version: N910VVRU1ANJ5 it won't brick my device?
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You'll want to flash the N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVZW2BPA1_N910VVRU2BPA1_HOME.tar .md5 file in ODIN as that is the firmware that Lollipop expects/works on. I don't know what android version N910VVRU1ANJ5 firmware is for. Flashing N910VVRU1ANJ5 shouldn't brick your phone but you will need to have it on N910VVRU2BPA1 to install Lollipop and root.
Trust me, just follow the instructions in the post I previously linked. It's all laid out for you in what is pretty much the easiest way you can do it. As long as you do it in the order listed, with the files provided, it will work.
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You'll want to flash the N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVZW2BPA1_N910VVRU2BPA1_HOME.tar .md5 file in ODIN as that is the firmware that Lollipop expects/works on. I don't know what android version N910VVRU1ANJ5 firmware is for. Flashing N910VVRU1ANJ5 shouldn't brick your phone but you will need to have it on N910VVRU2BPA1 to install Lollipop and root.
Trust me, just follow the instructions in the post I previously linked. It's all laid out for you in what is pretty much the easiest way you can do it. As long as you do it in the order listed, with the files provided, it will work.
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Nj5 was kitkat but I will flash the version you said I greatly appreciate it
Wait hold on my bootloader is locked will it still work? Sorry for the annoying questions I'm a little rusty cause I only get a new phone every 2 years so I barely ever root lol
Rooting this phone is pretty tricky and you may have to repeat the process a few times for it to work. Follow the guide custom_roms_epeptic posted, that's the one I used and even though it took me a couple hours to go from stock to Nseven, it did indeed work. I would recommend using the version of kingoroot found in the zip contained in that guide, I tried kingroot and the newest version of kingoroot and both got hung up at 90% or just didn't work at all.
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Wait hold on my bootloader is locked will it still work? Sorry for the annoying questions I'm a little rusty cause I only get a new phone every 2 years so I barely ever root lol
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Part of the steps you will be doing will be to unlock the bootloader, this is mandatory. If your CID starts with 15, you can change the CID of your device to that of a dev edition device, which can then have its bootloader unlocked. Like I said before, it's all laid out for you in the other thread.
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Part of the steps you will be doing will be to unlock the bootloader, this is mandatory. If your CID starts with 15, you can change the CID of your device to that of a dev edition device, which can then have its bootloader unlocked. Like I said before, it's all laid out for you in the other thread.
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Okay so I FLash the downgrade and then unlock the bootloader
,? Yes?
Is there any working and safe root for ms428 (k10 metrocps variant)?
I have been looking everywhere. Tried kingoroot but still no go.
I am starting to get frustrated
I'm giving one more week then exchanging it. I too am surprised there's no root method out yet. I bricked and exchanged a device already. No success trying to recover the device either using the Spanish screenshot disaster explanation which doesn't work.
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Is there any working and safe root for ms428 (k10 metrocps variant)?
I have been looking everywhere. Tried kingoroot but still no go.
I am starting to get frustrated
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strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10
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strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10
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Yeah im thnking of returning it to metropcs too.
No root means no happiness haha.
What unit can we get tho if we return it? Anything thats close to this k10?
infamousvincci said:
Yeah im thnking of returning it to metropcs too.
No root means no happiness haha.
What unit can we get tho if we return it? Anything thats close to this k10?
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I would say LG Stylo is closest but the camera isn't as good. Lens and size is nice but hardware processing is crap, but seems like every store has been on back order for them and with Stylo 2 out it's probably going to be shelved soon. I have faith in King root for solid success with k10 soon though.
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strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10
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DBoyFloyd said:
I would say LG Stylo is closest but the camera isn't as good. Lens and size is nice but hardware processing is crap, but seems like every store has been on back order for them and with Stylo 2 out it's probably going to be shelved soon. I have faith in King root for solid success with k10 soon though.
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We cant even use link2sd. This phone has 16gb rom but can let us use only 10gb. Smh.
No 3d games for us. And were not even allowed to mount the sd card as internal storage. Only portable.
Maybe the Galaxy J. I loved the Stylo but the GPS didn't work if the phone got hot.
I just got this pjone today because my old one broke and i had no way to research phones
Guy at metro over hyped it
Someone said there is an sd slot well where is it
And no root i even asked yhe ghy if i could root ot he said ya
Pissed
Xieon1 said:
I just got this pjone today because my old one broke and i had no way to research phones
Guy at metro over hyped it
Someone said there is an sd slot well where is it
And no root i even asked yhe ghy if i could root ot he said ya
Pissed
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Well, I can answer one of your questions. The sd card slot over laps the sim card slot.
We're all patiently waiting for root, my friend.
shooey_ said:
Well, I can answer one of your questions. The sd card slot over laps the sim card slot.
We're all patiently waiting for root, my friend.
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my patience is running out tho hahaha. 8gb worth of system files is crazy. they shouldve just put it as 8gb phone internal. instead of 16gb haha.
I'm running out of patience also. I've posted requests on android forums twice asking why there is no support for this phone and still haven't gotten a reply. It makes no sense whatsoever, when I got my old L70 there was a big support forum for it and the LgK10 is a much better phone so why no support? Pissing me off.
At least I would like a reason from Android Forums for why they have ignored the K10.
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I'm running out of patience also. I've posted requests on android forums twice asking why there is no support for this phone and still haven't gotten a reply. It makes no sense whatsoever, when I got my old L70 there was a big support forum for it and the LgK10 is a much better phone so why no support? Pissing me off.
At least I would like a reason from Android Forums for why they have ignored the K10.
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I'd buy the L70 again. It was an awesome little phone. Totally agree re: lack of communication. It looks like we had someone post up a failed root attempt about two weeks ago, along with another dev mentioning he'd start on it with no response since.
Devs, we just want to know if there's someone out there actively working on the K10. I can absolutely respect the time it takes to get it done right, but we can't tell if we're waiting on someone or no one.
I'm about ready to jump ship for the J7 or an original G Stylo (if I can get my hands on one). The bloat and stock setup on the K10 are maddening.
Can temp obtain root
I can get root temp using kingroot
Usjng the latest version of kingroot and will either root, or fail all the way to the request research for root button
I lose the root as soon as my phone restarts
The first time I tried it I got root, and phone made no restarts.
The second time I tried to get root back it eventually failed all the way to the research screen but the device did reboot several times during the kingroot root.
The latest time I rooted it the same as the first, no reboot.
I believe part of the problem is keeping kingroot as the superuser app, I think if I replace it with super su it may keep root.
I've seen several people say supersu ends up brick phone
Screen shot below please put together since I can't post links yet
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anybody tried this? http://www.supersuroot.com/
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anybody tried this? http://www.supersuroot.com/
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Ive read the thread. Im not sure i follow tho.
Were suppose to install twrp first before we gain root access?
So that method is a flashable method then?
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Ive read the thread. Im not sure i follow tho.
Were suppose to install twrp first before we gain root access?
So that method is a flashable method then?
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Has anyone tried this and have proof that it works?
Xieon2 said:
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Out of curiosity, are you running the MS428?
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Out of curiosity, are you running the MS428?
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I am but it looks like we may be screwed without any sort of help from the forums folks. It just doesn't make sense that they would bypass giving this phone any consideration for support.
Count me as someone else looking to root this phone
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I can get root temp using kingroot
Usjng the latest version of kingroot and will either root, or fail all the way to the request research for root button
I lose the root as soon as my phone restarts
The first time I tried it I got root, and phone made no restarts.
The second time I tried to get root back it eventually failed all the way to the research screen but the device did reboot several times during the kingroot root.
The latest time I rooted it the same as the first, no reboot.
I believe part of the problem is keeping kingroot as the superuser app, I think if I replace it with super su it may keep root.
I've seen several people say supersu ends up brick phone
Screen shot below please put together since I can't post links yet
i63.tinypic. com/wimv00.png
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what software version do you have?
I rooted before, then it bricked the phone. I sent it to warranty, after the sent it back, i cant root anymore