Sorry for the noob question, what are the recovery roms for? Wouldn't you just need a stock to revert to if you messed up the phone royally? Also, where can you find them? I haven't seen the aman-ra anywhere, though people regularly refer to it.
Also, do all of the ROMs listed on the wiki work with 1.47? It doesn't mention the version.
Rilasis said:
Sorry for the noob question, what are the recovery roms for? Wouldn't you just need a stock to revert to if you messed up the phone royally? Also, where can you find them? I haven't seen the aman-ra anywhere, though people regularly refer to it.
Also, do all of the ROMs listed on the wiki work with 1.47? It doesn't mention the version.
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A recovery ROM is what you use to manage full ROMs, you can backup, restore, wipe, mount as USB, all outside of the ROM loaded. These functionalities aren't available from within the system itself.
It's kind of like an advanced BIOS. You can't make a full backup of Windows XP while your IN Windows XP. (ASFAIK)
Edit : Amons recovery is included in all the full root method tutorials. It's called recovery.img
So, the recovery is more of a utility than just a backup. Usually you flash what is called the recovery partition with a recovery image. Once you do that, you don't need a computer to get into recovery. Anyway, the recovery does alia you to do a backup and restore, but it is actually the utility that you flash roms with. It also let's you wipe cache and stuff which is critical to flashing your own Rom.
You would use recovery to restore, instead of flashing stock, because it would return your phone to the exact state it was in when you did the backup. You don't lose any settings or apps or anything.
When you root via toast pt 2 you wind up flashing amon recovery. There is also a thread in the dev section with a different version I think, just search amon.
And most roms on the wiki have the newest ota integrated in the Rom, but you should always consult the first post in the roms thread to see more about that.
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Okay I have flashed Calkulin's Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
The one without the OTA update that killed Root (I haven't updated to that yet )
I rooted using Toast's method - I did part 1 of his root. For part 2, I did this one
For part 2, I did this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705113
I'm trying to flash a new ROM now. Maybe damage protection or even FROYO (Yeah froyo sounds better)
I also want to do the NOVATEK FPS bandaide as well.
I just don't know where to start. I read somewhere someone said you just re-flash a rom again with the recovery...but I don't want to screw up.
Can someone post a very brief what I should do or lead me please?
FYI, the Rom you flashed from the first link provided is stock rooted with the latest update.
Anywho, you heard right, you flash new roms the same way you flashed that Rom. Download the Rom to your sdcard, boot into recovery, wipe data cache and dalvik, flash from sdcard, choose the Rom you put on there and confirm. That's all there is to it!
The important thing to remember is to always wipe before you flash, this will ensure no errors occur.
Hey thanks for backing up data I heard nandroid and titanium which one is better
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Two different things. You should have at least one nandroid that you know works, this is used encased you beef anything up from flashing or something and you want to return your phone to the exact state it was at when you did the backup. That's the purpose of nandroid, to backup a complete image of the state your phone is in, Rom and all (excluding radio and wimax)
Titanium is a utility you use to backup all of the apps you have installed, along with their data and market links. This is usefull when flashing a new Rom so you can easily restore all of your apps without having to download and install them again and again.
Check this, it answers quite a bit of your questions and then some.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710513
Alright, I may have a brick on my hands but after playing with Android for two years I've found that's pretty tough to actually do so I'm still hopeful. Using Clockwork recovery, I did a factory reset and flashed the cm vision full 5 nightly build onto my G2/Vision. It gave me a boot loop so I went into hboot and tried to flash the PC10IMG. I'm getting a "Main version is older! Update fail!" message and have no idea what to do. Somehow I'm back to S-ON so I can't even try to flash a different update. If anyone has any ideas I will try anything. I love my phone and would hate to lose it three days after root happened.
I hate to be the one to say this, but didn't the thread say not to not to try it yet?
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I hate to be the one to say this, but didn't the thread say not to not to try it yet?
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If you hate to say it and it doesn't help then why say it? And no it does not say that anywhere in the thread. Others have tried and had success.
You didn't make a nandroid backup?
No offense, but you said you've been playing with Android for 2 years. You should've known that the first rule is to backup what you already have!
Have you tried installing the stock ROM pre OTA in the "Downgrading ROM" thread?
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You didn't make a nandroid backup?
No offense, but you said you've been playing with Android for 2 years. You should've known that the first rule is to backup what you already have!
Have you tried installing the stock ROM pre OTA in the "Downgrading ROM" thread?
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I'm attempting it but adb won't copy my misc.img to my SD card, nor will it detect the miscnew.img I've made from someone else's misc.img.
Edit: Oh, and I WAS using the first release of the Clockwork mod for the G2 and I did not see a nandroid option there or I would have made a backup. I guess I shouldn't have tried it without a backup. Is there any way to use nandroid to flash someone else's backup?
What you need to do is mount your phone to your PC using Clockwork Recovery and copy over the misc files that way.
I had to downgrade to the stock rom myself and I used the misc files located in the below file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=437017&d=1289270330
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What you need to do is mount your phone to your PC using Clockwork Recovery and copy over the misc files that way.
I had to downgrade to the stock rom myself and I used the misc files located in the below file.
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I already downloaded those files, and copied miscnew onto my sd. But when I try the
"dd if=/sdcard/miscnew.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17" command it says the file does not exist. It doesn't work with the card mounted or unmounted.
If you can get into clockwork you should be OK. i think your mistake was doing a full factory reset rather than install CM and then wiping data and cache. go into clockwork and wipe everything.
Find the official pre-ota zip, go into hboot, and flash. if this fails, go into clockwork, wipe everything, then go into fastboot, flash the original recovery, then go into hboot and flash the pre-ota zip.
Otherwise, find the thread when people had problems flashing the OTA after removing goggles and use that method to reflash the pre-ota.
My wife got an Epic, while I have an EVO. I'm quite familiar with rooting, ROMs, etc. I think I've got all the Epic-specific details down, but I wanted to ask this question to make sure I've got this down.
I plan to use this root method. After that, her phone will be left with a basically stock, 2.2 ROM that uses the EXT4 file system, and Clockwork recovery image. I read that I won't be able to flash new versions of Clockwork from within ROM Manager. From then on, I will need to stick with ROMs designed for the EXT4 file system or both EXT4 and RFS. I assume I flash ROMs and Kernels just like with my EVO: choose my ROM, it will come with a kernel, but I can flash whatever kernel I choose on top of that (as long as my ROM matches my Android type, DK or EB). There are currently no Gingerbread ROMs for the Epic, but when they are released, I should be able to use CM 3.x to flash them.
OK, I would greatly appreciate if someone could just read over that and let me know if I understand anything incorrectly. Also, if someone could tell me if there's a good reason to choose Odin's recovery vs. Clockwork, I would very much appreciate that as well.
Odin Vs. Clockwork
Everything you posted above sounds accurate.
I use Clockwork to flash my ROMs just because it is easier to me (no cables involved). The only time I use Odin is when my phone is bricked. This has happened after installing Samsung updates, but it is very easy to use Odin to restore back to Stock, then flash a new ROM over.
One advantage to Clockwork is that some ROMs support a full backup. I use Bonsai4All and during installation from Clockwork it will backup your information, then restore it. As far as I know, Odin is not capable of any such thing.
Hope this helps...
OK wait, some ROMs support full backup? Why couldn't I do a full nandroid backup with any ROM I'm running from within Clockwork Mod Recovery?
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OK wait, some ROMs support full backup? Why couldn't I do a full nandroid backup with any ROM I'm running from within Clockwork Mod Recovery?
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You can use these two zips from within clockwork if you are flashing a rom that doesn't backup/restore for you.
Flash the "backup" before you wipe anything and then after you flash the rom - before you reboot - flash the "restore".
These .zips take care of data/settings/apps. Not actual system items, so they don't seem to cause some of the issues that programs like Titanium Backup cause.
EDIT: It's always good to do a complete backup within Clockwork before flashing ANYTHING new. Roms, zips, etc.!
Awesome! Thanks! I can't believe that Clockwork isn't working any better than that where it has problems backing things up. I know the EVO gets a lot of dev love, but seriously... SO much easier.
hi xda
first post, 2 week old first android phone (galaxy s GT-I9000).
I've just rooted my phone using super one click. im always reading that i HAVE to perform a nandroid backup before i do ANYTHING after i've rooted my device.
When i google "how to nandroid", i just get "get into recovery mode, select 'nandroid backup'.
But there isn't any back up options, only the standard 4 options: reboot, apply update, wipe data/facotry reset and wipe cache.
2 questions:
1) what must i do after rooting to make the nandroid option available? Surely doing THAT is doing something, therefore putting my phone at risk?
and thus,
2) what can i exactly do after rooting, before performing a nandroid? one click lag fix? normal use? installing a ROM? My understanding is that the nandroid backup is in case installing a ROM goes wrong, but then again a lot of the 'how tos' say you should instal clockworkmod, or rom manager before making a nandroid.
Please shed light.
Jon Alex
South Africa
You need a custom recovery like cwm installed to do a backup and for flashing ROMs. Whether you choose to do so is up to you, but there are advantages to being rooted either way i.e Apps that require root access to work.
thanks for your reply - please clear something up for me...
Everything i read says do a nandroid before you flash anything, but then it sounds like you have to flash a recovery ROM in order to do a nandroid?
Please let me know
1) how to install cwm recovery ROM and
2) what can go wrong? (since i'm doing this before making a nandroid)
3) can i install the recovery ROM before i root?
okay
at the moment i've got this far:
rooted? check. (super1click)
rom manager installed? check.
problem:
when i click flash clockworkrecovery ROM in ROM manager, it prompts me to choose my model (Galaxy I9000 International). Then it prompts me to allow poweruser functions, which i do. Then it saus something to the effect of "ClockworkRecovery ROM has been downloaded!"
note: not flashed, or installed, downloaded.
That finished the 'flashing' process. Now, if i select back up, it boots into recovery mode, but its still running the stock android recovery (2e), without any option to perform a nandroid backup!
How the hell do i do this? aargh.
help would be apprciated.
Go back into Rom Manager and again select install CWM and then backup current ROM. (sometimes it just needs doing again).
While you are using a stock ROM the stock Recovery will reassert itself on every boot, so having to flash CWM multiple times is not uncommon. Of course, this behaviour stops if you flash a custom ROM.
I've flashed it 3 times.. still no cwm recovery Rom... how many timed should I do this before trying something else, and what is that something else?
Just flashed another 3 times. Still nothing... please help!
THIS is the correct section for your device. I'm sure you'll find the answers you need there.
Good luck.
For context, I want to clear up a few things before trying to root so I don't end up bricking the phone.
So after reading a few threads it seems even recovering via twrp is messed up in this phone. Can someone shed some light on this matter?
Can I restore system, data, and boot partitions via twrp in case something goes wrong (while staying on official miui roms everytime, I don't intend to install custom roms) and I have to revert the phone back to the state it was in at the time of a backup?
It feels like at the very least we would be required to re-flash the entire firmware via mi flash tool and then restore whatever is needed via twrp later. Will this work?
Also I hear using twrp to install the official firmware is not a good idea, what's that about?
I know long post and a lot of questions, so please bear with me.
Thanks.
Custom ROMs and Stock ROMs differ in one aspect, which partitions are left untouched. Since stock ROM is a lot more invasive and formats all partitions, official flash method is recommended.
When you mess things up, mi flash tool is safest option. Its safe to experiment, backup, restore on boot+system+data in TWRP across ROM installs but don't mess up recovery partition. Remember to format data between ROM installs unless dirty flashing on same android version
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I see. Thank you for the reply!