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[Q] LG G3 hissing sound

When a sound in a certain frequency appears on my phone it comes with an annoying hissing sound especially on the left channel. it drives be bananas! i already sent it back and got a replacement and the bug is still there. Work arounds that didn't work for me: switching to ATR, Another audio cable, Sound About(my headphones is also detected as actual headphones), making a call.
I'm desperate for a solution. I hope it gets fixed with lollipop but if not i rely on you guys.
I already posted this on reddit and i keep you guys updated if i get a valuable answer.
i would really appreciate it if you got anything to help me out with.

retsam00 said:
When a sound in a certain frequency appears on my phone it comes with an annoying hissing sound especially on the left channel. it drives be bananas! i already sent it back and got a replacement and the bug is still there. Work arounds that didn't work for me: switching to ATR, Another audio cable, Sound About(my headphones is also detected as actual headphones), making a call.
I'm desperate for a solution. I hope it gets fixed with lollipop but if not i rely on you guys.
I already posted this on reddit and i keep you guys updated if i get a valuable answer.
i would really appreciate it if you got anything to help me out with.
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Does it appear when using the headphones that came with the G3? And which headphones are you using?

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Does it appear when using the headphones that came with the G3? And which headphones are you using?
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i'm using the ath m50x from audio technica. ****ty in ear headphones including the lg earbuds doesn't have this problem since they're not very sensitive.
thanks for your help mate
by the way it works perfectly fine on the s5 and my computer

retsam00 said:
i'm using the ath m50x from audio technica. ****ty in ear headphones including the lg earbuds doesn't have this problem since they're not very sensitive.
thanks for your help mate
by the way it works perfectly fine on the s5 and my computer
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It's not about sensitivity, it's about impedance. Headphones with a low impedance always have this problem on the G3.
Unfortunately there is nothing you can do, except for using other headphones or soldering a resistor in row to your headphones, but that would ruin the HiFi-capabilities of the M50X.
In my experience, Headphones with 20+ Ohms work well, but it seems that the M50X (which have 38 Ohms) don't have a very linear impedance.
I've talked to LG about that issue, but their support doesn't know anything about anything. After a long discussion about it not being a defect, she just said that she will forward the complain to their engineers...

You're not the only one though

damn this is too bad. i hope it can be fixed with a software update unfortunately i can say that the support indeed is pretty bad at least from my point of view they doesn't seem to have any IT experience.

retsam00 said:
damn this is too bad. i hope it can be fixed with a software update unfortunately i can say that the support indeed is pretty bad at least from my point of view they doesn't seem to have any IT experience.
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It can't be fixed via software. It's a hardware issue.

I think a headphone amplifier unit should 'correct' the issue assuming my understanding of wikipedia is incorrect
Output Impedance
Many headphone amplifiers have an output impedance in the range of 0.5 - 50 Ohms. The 1996 IEC 61938 standard recommended an output impedance of 120 Ohms, but in practice this is rarely used and not recommended with modern headphones. High output impedance can result in frequency response fluctuations, due to varying load impedance at different frequencies. In 2008 Stereophile Magazine published an article that showed that a 120-Ohm output impedance could cause a 5-dB error in frequency response with certain types of headphones. However, the author of the article also states: ″The ramifications for subjective assessment of headphones are more troublesome because it is usually unclear what assumptions the manufacturer has made regarding source impedance. ″ [2]
More importantly, low output impedance can reduce distortion by improving the control that the source has over the transducer. This is often expressed as damping factor, with higher damping factors greatly reducing distortion.[3] One company shows a 45 dB improvement in THD+N at 30 Hz for their low-impedance amplifier compared to a 30-ohm amplifier.[4] For example, a 32 Ω headphone driven by a headphone amp with a <1 Ω output impedance would have a damping factor of >32, whereas the same headphone driven with an iPod Touch 3G (7 Ω output impedance) [5] would have a damping factor of just 4.6. If the 120 ohms recommendation is applied, the damping factor would be an unacceptably low 0.26 and consequently distortion would be significantly higher. Conversely, the same iPod Touch driving a pair of 120 ohm headphones would have a respectable damping factor of 17.1, and would most likely not benefit from the addition of a lower impedance headphone amplifier.
In addition to output impedance, other specifications are relevant to choosing a headphone amplifier — THD, frequency response, IMD, output power, minimum load impedance, and other measurements are also significant. However, most of these will be improved by lowering output impedance and hence improving damping factor.
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dryjoint said:
I think a headphone amplifier unit should 'correct' the issue assuming my understanding of wikipedia is incorrect
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That's right, a dedicated headphone amplifier would fix this, because the input impedance is typically very high.
But most heaphone amps in the lower price range decrease sound quality significantly.

The problem I'm facing..
There is noise+distortion+hissing during call but ignore-able
And when headphones are connected I cant understand or listen to any thing I only hear wired noises..
Any fix guys ?
Dont know if its technical or software based issue
if technical then I bet it could be faulty ic chips

omr911 said:
The problem I'm facing..
There is noise+distortion+hissing during call but ignore-able
And when headphones are connected I cant understand or listen to any thing I only hear wired noises..
Any fix guys ?
Dont know if its technical or software based issue
if technical then I bet it could be faulty ic chips
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To me that sounds like a hardware issue. I'd contact LG.

Xerionius said:
To me that sounds like a hardware issue. I'd contact LG.
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I sent my G3 to service center and today they gave me a new replacement phone, that one had indeed technical problem and the main board replacement wasn't available :highfive:

My new Audiophile headphones problem.

Hello, I am very much kind of headphone lover guy.
Recently, I bought Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 32Ohm (32Ohm version for portable users).
But the sound is not coming to its best. I plugged the same headphone to iPhone and it's working awesome. iPhone quality is same as it work on macbook and PC.
So, I was worried, is my headphone supportable on my Nexus 5 or I just have to invest in buying mp3 player.
I will provide link, where you all cann see the specifications and tell if that is supported on this device or not, because I am not that much of technical guy.
Headphone Link - http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/dt-770-pro-32-ohm.html
I have rooted my phone and is currently running on ElementX kernel and Chroma ROM.
Hope you guys can help me.
Thank you.

Is it quality that's bad or volume level? Or a bit of both?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

More of a volume. The quality is good.

Try this - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.n5rvb.nexus5realvolumebooster
Also i always use poweramp with the preset set on rock. Always find it the best sounding
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Install any kernel management app, like kernel adiutor, and in sound menu raise headphone gain.

So I just did what you said. I already have paid version poweramp and installed volume booster, set it to 19 and 95 for headphone and speaker. Set my present to rock, but I was just little curious, are you also facing a little distortion in the sound or just me? Because I think, I can listen the distortion, maybe because these are kind of Audiophile headphones, so they are giving deep detail of every sound.
As far the volume matters, its 2.00AM, so very much silence environment but I can definitely feel the volume is increased.

How much did I set the headphone gain too?
I already installed the volume booster app, should I also gain on this app too?

Try these!!!!!
These are the "loudest" and best in-ear buds you can get!!!! http://amzn.com/B00WI79EK0 They are Zorloo "Z:ero". Forget about booster apps, eq apps, etc... This thing has a inline "DAC" it plugs into the "USB" port and not the 3.5mm jack. Read up on it!!! I have wasted money on many in the ear, over the ear, everything under the sun to get the best sound and these are my latest find. (Thanks to an article about the Nokia 808 and how people are pimping them out). I cant say enough how LOUD!!!!!!!!!! they are.
YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED!!!!
I think they are lurking under the radar because its not a "Brand" name like Shure, Whitestone, or any of the "high" end stuff people are used to paying 100's of dollars for. But the technology using "DAC" has been around and if your looking for something to drive your "over the ear" stuff maybe a usb cable micro to mini adapter and then a USB DAC Stick might work for you... I am sure you can also try to "hack" the "Z:ero" by cutting off the "ear buds" and then going to the local "radio shack" and getting a 3.5mm stereo input jack and soldering the four wires to it and you just made yourself a custom low cost "DAC"...
Just a quick review I google...
http://www.soundguys.com/zero-digital-earphones-review-5997/
Try them!!!

Install viper for android. It helps with the sound processing on the N5 immensely.

I was going to say something about the impedance, but my headphones are a higher impedance than that 35ohm, and I'm pleased with the quality and volume. I know you are not looking for just volume, you are looking for volume and quality. Something I found in the past with some of the Android EQ settings (didn't matter which app) some of the settings like bass boost, would actually lower the volume coming to my headset.
A good set of headphones shouldn't have to have any EQ settings changed at all, leaving it on flat should be the best, and for preference, you can always use flat as a reference.

Every headphones is different from others: if you want a boost in volume/quality, you should try an amplifier like FiiO E6 (http://www.amazon.it/FiiO-E6-Amplif...6?ie=UTF8&qid=1439893840&sr=8-6&keywords=fiio )
32 ohm is a bit high for a smartphone, so there is a possibility that Nexus can't handle that well.

I have a pair of 32 ohm dt770 as well as 32ohm mmx300 Beyerdynamic. They both work fine.
They definitely shine with a good headphone amp, but if you're running without one straight to a phone or laptop, definitely get 32 ohm. It's the lowest they make for mobile type uses.

Static sound from headphone output/speaker ?

Okay, so I just want to check if this is normal. If someone could confirm this, I would appreciate it.
Whenever a sound is played on HTC 10, I hear a slight little static sound for 3-4 seconds, and then it disappears. It happens when I use headphones or speaker.
My phone is stock, haven`t messed with some advanced audio settings.
The best way to check this is to go to settings --> Sound & notification --> Notification sound.
Play one of these sounds.
If played through speaker, put the lower part of the phone (where the speaker is) to your ear, you should hear a very slight static sound that disappears 3 seconds after the sound is played.
FIXED : It is kernel related, flashing Elemental kernel v18 (which has Analog gain headphone feature) introduced static noise, reverted back to v16, no static noise anymore.
Credits to @Blue305 for pointing it out and @mosincredible for the helpful posts!

CroCop18 said:
Okay, so I just want to check if this is normal. If someone could confirm this, I would appreciate it.
Whenever I enter youtube and play a video and then pause it, I hear a slight little static sound for 3 seconds, and then it disappears. It happens when I use headphones or speaker, and when I use a music player.
The best way to check this is to go to settings --> Sound & notification --> Notification sound.
Play one of these sounds.
If played through speaker, put the lower part of the phone (where the speaker is) to your ear, you should hear a very slight static sound that disappears 3 seconds after the sound is played.
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My ear is not the best, but on default settings , without audio gain or audio analog gain, i cannot hear static. Have you modified those settings?

tbalden said:
My ear is not the best, but on default settings , without audio gain or audio analog gain, i cannot hear static. Have you modified those settings?
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Tho, the speaker part of the soc codec is not in relation with those settings, so just ignore my previous comment.. so basically I can't hear static, but my ears aren't the best, especially with low volume noises.

tbalden said:
Tho, the speaker part of the soc codec is not in relation with those settings, so just ignore my previous comment.. so basically I can't hear static, but my ears aren't the best, especially with low volume noises.
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Thanks for the reply, but no, I have not modified hedphone analog gain or volume gain settings. The static sound can be heard for 3 seconds with headphones as well. Tried 3 pair of headphones, the slight static hiss is always there.
I wonder if this is normal or not

Okay, can someone please check if he has the static sound from speaker/while on headphones ?

Just realised that the static sound/hiss happens only on low impedance headphones, like the HTC headphones that came with the phone, Sennheiser Cx400 and all other average in-ear headphones.
Can someone test this and report back if he has the static sound for 3-4 seconds when a song is paused ?? Or when a youtube video is paused

CroCop18 said:
Just realised that the static sound/hiss happens only on low impedance headphones, like the HTC headphones that came with the phone, Sennheiser Cx400 and all other average in-ear headphones.
Can someone test this and report back if he has the static sound for 3-4 seconds when a song is paused ?? Or when a youtube video is paused
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I can confirm the static is there in the exact way described in the original post. Comes on for 3 to 4 seconds when audio is paused. Tested on stock ROM with latest unlocked US firmware using HTC Pro Studio headphones, Sony EX90s, and the headphones that came with my iPhone 6s.
Edit: The problem is worse in games. From Riptide Renegade to Real Racing 3 to my little boy's Lego games, the low level static is present and does not drop off as it does with video clips and audio.

ryansc375 said:
I can confirm the static is there in the exact way described in the original post. Comes on for 3 to 4 seconds when audio is paused. Tested on stock ROM with latest unlocked US firmware using HTC Pro Studio headphones, Sony EX90s, and the headphones that came with my iPhone 6s.
Edit: The problem is worse in games. From Riptide Renegade to Real Racing 3 to my little boy's Lego games, the low level static is present and does not drop off as it does with video clips and audio.
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So you have it as well on a stock phone.
It's worse for me too in games, like for example "Smash hit", I turn the volume all the way down in both game and phone and I still hear that whitenoise static sound. When I go back to homescreen, I hear the static for like 3 seconds more and then it ends Until I go back to the app

For a phone that's reason for being is primarily audio, this is an unforgivable oversight and flaw (in my opinion). Will be returning to HTC.

I expected it to be impedance related and it is. The higher up the impedance latter I go, the more faint the sound is. ie8 > t51i > m50 > dt770 80 ohm > hd600. I prefer higher impedance headphones anyway so this doesn't bother me as I rarely listen to my ie8. I'd give this same test to an iPhone but is have to wait until I get with the girlfriend.

mosincredible said:
I expected it to be impedance related and it is. The higher up the impedance latter I go, the more faint the sound is. ie8 > t51i > m50 > dt770 80 ohm > hd600. I prefer higher impedance headphones anyway so this doesn't bother me as I rarely listen to my ie8. I'd give this same test to an iPhone but is have to wait until I get with the girlfriend.
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Your sennheiser IE8 headphones have the same impedance like my sennheiser CX400 (16 ohm).
So you hear static as well on these headphones ^^ ??
Maybe it is impedance related, but then again, why would I need to have 500$ high impedance headphones to get rid of static noise that should't even be there. Also, I like my headphones to be discreet, not big, and those are always low impedance (16-32 ohm). This is a serious flaw in my eyes.

CroCop18 said:
Your sennheiser IE8 headphones have the same impedance like my sennheiser CX400 (16 ohm).
So you hear static as well on these headphones ^^ ??
Maybe it is impedance related, but then again, why would I need to have 500$ high impedance headphones to get rid of static noise that should't even be there. Also, I like my headphones to be discreet, not big, and those are always low impedance (16-32 ohm). This is a serious flaw in my eyes.
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Tried the same audio (video, music and games) on my iPhone 6s with the same headphones (listed in my previous post) and had no issues whatsoever. Very unfortunate. The HTC 10 is a beautiful phone and I want to keep it, but this is something that wouldn't happen on a cheap phone from Target. Insane their engineers did not pick this up.

CroCop18 said:
Your sennheiser IE8 headphones have the same impedance like my sennheiser CX400 (16 ohm).
So you hear static as well on these headphones ^^ ??
Maybe it is impedance related, but then again, why would I need to have 500$ high impedance headphones to get rid of static noise that should't even be there. Also, I like my headphones to be discreet, not big, and those are always low impedance (16-32 ohm). This is a serious flaw in my eyes.
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Well, I'll take my statement a step further. Your ability to hear the sound is impedance related. I believe the actual sound is software related. I've experienced it on the past 4 phones I've owned. With the phone that drives my headphones the weakest also being the phone that has minimal noise.
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ryansc375 said:
Tried the same audio (video, music and games) on my iPhone 6s with the same headphones (listed in my previous post) and had no issues whatsoever. Very unfortunate. The HTC 10 is a beautiful phone and I want to keep it, but this is something that wouldn't happen on a cheap phone from Target. Insane their engineers did not pick this up.
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If weaker happens to be aligned with less noise for very low impedance headphones, I'll take the HTC 10 over other options. Does the iPhone drive high impedance headphones to same volume as the 10? And when you're bringing a different OS into the mix, you have a lot of other variables such as how the software handles outputting a sound.

I have the same problem with my Sennheisers CX300 II on elemental kernel.. the funny thing is I've only start to have it this issue after they started playing with the analog gain..
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Blue305 said:
I have the same problem with my Sennheisers CX300 II on elemental kernel.. the funny thing is I've only start to have it this issue after they started playing with the analog gain..
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Bingo! After reading this, I went back to v16 of elemental kernel which is before the analog gain feature was added and the static is gone even on my ie8.

I had the same situation as Blue305. Was on cleanslate kernel and then flashed Ex kernel to see battery life and everything, after that started noticing static noise like everywhere.
I thought it wasn`t kernel related
V16 Elemental kernel with no analog gain features fixed it
@ryansc375, do you possibly also have elemental kernel installed or something similar ?

CroCop18 said:
I had the same situation as Blue305. Was on cleanslate kernel and then flashed Ex kernel to see battery life and everything, after that started noticing static noise like everywhere.
I thought it wasn`t kernel related
V16 Elemental kernel with no analog gain features fixed it
@ryansc375, do you possibly also have elemental kernel installed or something similar ?
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Hey everyone, just finishing up a long day with the family. Read all the posts and will report back now that I have some time to geek out. Hopefully the static demon can be exorcised!

Okay, so after a full wipe and running the latest RUU for the unlocked U.S. version, I can say that the static issue is gone on my phone. I'm not sure what changed but I'm happy it's back to normal (on stock). If I root again and want to install a kernel I'll be sure to use v16 of elementalx or one that doesn't mess with the audio settings.

Tested v19 of Ex Kernel. Static persists. Staying on v16 for now unless a new setting in Ex Manager comes along to fix it.

mosincredible said:
Tested v19 of Ex Kernel. Static persists. Staying on v16 for now unless a new setting in Ex Manager comes along to fix it.
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Hmm, he said he would fix the compounder or something to remove this issue.
Thanks for testing, let him know in his thread.

Any audiophiles can comment about the DAC?

I am not a audiophile, by any means at all.
On multiple occassions I have seen comments about the Moto Z Play DAC and how about it is actually decent to good.
Can anyone confirm or deny this? For curiousity's sake really.

It does the job is all i can say.

coolkingler1 said:
I am not a audiophile, by any means at all.
On multiple occassions I have seen comments about the Moto Z Play DAC and how about it is actually decent to good.
Can anyone confirm or deny this? For curiousity's sake really.
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AFAIK DAC is part of SoC and Qualcomm always produced good ones.
Odoslané z XT1635-02 pomocou Tapatalku

coolkingler1 said:
I am not a audiophile, by any means at all.
On multiple occassions I have seen comments about the Moto Z Play DAC and how about it is actually decent to good.
Can anyone confirm or deny this? For curiousity's sake really.
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I am one.
It is good. See https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/music-players-one-standout-dac-to-192k-t3533577
Audiophiles are a group comprising about .1% of male population. Search for Medical Research ~ 2001, male hearing anomaly/acuity

Audio output is pretty average overall. DAC seems to be fairly accurate (it's just Qualcomm's standard offering, not a discreet DAC like the V10/V20 or Axon 7 have), but there's audible interference from the cell radio and other components with sensitive in-ears and output power is unremarkable

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Output is adequate if you use a low impedance, high efficiency bud. The Apple earpod is not as bad as most reviewers pan it to be. I keep it upside-down and fitted tightly in ear canel.
I have even carved out the plastic to let the bass reflex ports pass while tightly fitted (lol we can't messing to improve audio!)

aviwdoowks said:
I should add
Output is adequate if you use a low impedance, high efficiency bud. The Apple earpod is not as bad as most reviewers pan it to be. I keep it upside-down and fitted tightly in ear canel.
I have even carved out the plastic to let the bass reflex ports pass while tightly fitted (lol we can't messing to improve audio!)
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The Apple Earpod is probably a good choice because it's actually not very low impedance for an earphone (it's 45 ohms), but it is fairly sensitive (109 dB), so it's in a nice middle zone. You get a sensitive in-ear that's 32 ohms or even 16 ohms and you will start to hear the noise floor, interference and some distortion on the Z Play's headphone output. It's not bad for a phone by any means, but it's not especially good either.
I used an external DAC with the Z Play for a while (Fiio E18), but even that would pick up some noise from the call radio if I didn't have it in airplane mode (which I couldn't do all the time). I finally had to get a separate audio player to get the sound quality I wanted.

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The Apple Earpod is probably a good choice because it's actually not very low impedance for an earphone (it's 45 ohms), but it is fairly sensitive (109 dB), so it's in a nice middle zone. You get a sensitive in-ear that's 32 ohms or even 16 ohms and you will start to hear the noise floor, interference and some distortion on the Z Play's headphone output. It's not bad for a phone by any means, but it's not especially good either.
I used an external DAC with the Z Play for a while (Fiio E18), but even that would pick up some noise from the call radio if I didn't have it in airplane mode. I finally had to get a separate audio player to get the sound quality I wanted.
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Hmmm
Yes I do not hear any noise with these buds.
Neither do i hear any clipping.
So how is sound at very low impedance in airplane mode without a DAC? What player do you use? Have you tried UAPP without a DAC?

aviwdoowks said:
Hmmm
Yes I do not hear any noise with these buds.
Neither do i hear any clipping.
So how is sound at very low impedance in airplane mode without a DAC? What player do you use? Have you tried UAPP without a DAC?
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I did try UAPP. It's very listenable in airplane mode, some system noise (processor maybe?) but the cell radio is the biggest culprit so airplane mode helps. Compared to the V10 or the Pioneer XDP-100R (which is the DAP I bought to use at work) it does sound more compressed and congested, instrument separation isn't as good and it's not quite as clean, but the frequency response seems fairly neutral and it's better than most of the previous smartphones I've had (the Oneplus One especially was pretty bad for audio). Without a discrete DAC/amp like the V10 it's as good as I would reasonably expect. It also doesn't have much power, but that wasn't a big deal for me since I only intended to use it with IEMs (usually Cardas A8s).

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I did try UAPP. It's very listenable in airplane mode, some system noise (processor maybe?) but the cell radio is the biggest culprit so airplane mode helps. Compared to the V10 or the Pioneer XDP-100R (which is the DAP I bought to use at work) it does sound more compressed and congested, instrument separation isn't as good and it's not quite as clean, but the frequency response seems fairly neutral and it's better than most of the previous smartphones I've had (the Oneplus One especially was pretty bad for audio). Without a discrete DAC/amp like the V10 it's as good as I would reasonably expect. It also doesn't have much power, but that wasn't a big deal for me since I only intended to use it with IEMs (usually Cardas A8s).
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Did you see my thread in our app section
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/music-players-one-standout-dac-to-192k-t3533577
Try UAP with bitrate set to variable and no DAC. Do you have some good dsfs?
But you must play from OTG... See thread

aviwdoowks said:
Did you see my thread in our app section
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/music-players-one-standout-dac-to-192k-t3533577
Try UAP with bitrate set to variable and no DAC. Do you have some good dsfs?
But you must play from OTG... See thread
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I'll give it a try

HELP 4 disabled boy - increase volume 4 bluetooth earphones (SM-N986N)

hi guys
I have a neighbor 12 y.o. boy that have hearing problem. he got 4 birthday present a Note 20 ultra 5g (korian).
This sweet kid really into music, but unfortunately the bluetooth headphones volume isnt good 4 him.
I checked the level that he need with another device (my home hifi), and I have to increase the phone volume by 20%./.
the device is: Device: SM-N986N (snapdragon), Android version: 10.
The family & the boy dont really care about loosing warranty, so any real solution - falshing mods\custom roms & so on - is great.
come on guys help do some good 4 that boy.
tnx

Good deed Sir
What device is he using to listen with?
Hearing destroying volume levels was a Samsung issue... not the opposite.
The Buds+ should be able to kick out an extra 20+% easy.
If his hearing loss extends below 400 hz the bass will not be sufficient otherwise they'll probably do nicely.
There are also LDAC based hi res bt headphones that can pump out much more decibels if needed.
However the last thing he needs is more hearing damage; make sure he understands he should keep it at a comfortable level. A custom set graphic equalizer can help with that by bringing up the levels were needed and add to listening pleasure/comfort/safety.
Poweramp has probably the best one available for playing Android based .wav, mp4, etc. files.
Make sure volume limiting is not enabled. Check the device's advance audio setting and play with them.

blackhawk said:
Good deed Sir
What device is he using to listen with?
Hearing destroying volume levels was a Samsung issue... not the opposite.
The Buds+ should be able to kick out an extra 20+% easy.
If his hearing loss extends below 400 hz the bass will not be sufficient otherwise they'll probably do nicely.
There are also LDAC based hi res bt headphones that can pump out much more decibels if needed.
However the last thing he needs is more hearing damage; make sure he understands he should keep it at a comfortable level. A custom set graphic equalizer can help with that by bringing up the levels were needed and add to listening pleasure/comfort/safety.
Poweramp has probably the best one available for playing Android based .wav, mp4, etc. files.
Make sure volume limiting is not enabled. Check the device's advance audio setting and play with them.
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hi
i gave as present sennheiser momentum 3 earphones.
if it wasnt clear: he boy have bad hearing. so i dont think that samsung took it into consideration.
i already tried all the methods thats u mention - they didnkt work.
tnx

See if you can install (viper v4a) on your device
You can Increase volume levels a fair bit

rastamit said:
hi
i gave as present sennheiser momentum 3 earphones.
if it wasnt clear: he boy have bad hearing. so i dont think that samsung took it into consideration.
i already tried all the methods thats u mention - they didnkt work.
tnx
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I can read. The child has very acute hearing loss.
The Buds+ actually will go near the their driver's physical range limit*.
The driver will start to distort and then may even burn out.
A distorting driver isn't going to help.
Headphones (larger drivers but they have limits as well) then perhaps... check their specs.
Put head between two studio monitor speakers.
That's all I got...
*using Poweramp and most phone apks. Some online vids volumn are very low.

blackhawk said:
I can read. The child has very acute hearing loss.
The Buds+ actually will go near the their driver's physical range limit*.
The driver will start to distort and then may even burn out.
A distorting driver isn't going to help.
Headphones (larger drivers but they have limits as well) then perhaps... check their specs.
Put head between two studio monitor speakers.
That's all I got...
*using Poweramp and most phone apks. Some online vids volumn are very low.
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Im very happy that u can read.
it isnt buds its over ear-earphones, the drivers their r much bigger then the buds. they r the same earphones that i test with my home hi-fi .
tnx and b well

Be good if you knew how much hearing loss the child had so you could deal with hard numbers.
Are saying the devices are able to produce sufficient decibels throughout the audio spectrum for the child to hear but aren't?
Try a phone call with the bud in question; phone calls can go near the full volumn range of the device if sound level limiting is disabled.
Make sure the Buds+ firmware and Wearables software are up to date. Latest update was a week or two ago.
Try resetting network connections.

blackhawk said:
Be good if you knew how much hearing loss the child had so you could deal with hard numbers.
Are saying the devices are able to produce sufficient decibels throughout the audio spectrum for the child to hear but aren't?
Try a phone call with the bud in question; phone calls can go near the full volumn range of the device if sound level limiting is disabled.
Make sure the Buds+ firmware and Wearables software are up to date. Latest update was a week or two ago.
Try resetting network connections.
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My dear friend.
1. The sennheiser momentum 3 r not buds. They r over ear phones.
2. Its obvious that u cant help me with the oroblem, but u cant hep urself preaching, mumbling with no help.
3. Im MD.
4. Good luck overcoming the urge to write the last (insignificance-) word.
Try 2 stay healthy.
Peace out.

rastamit said:
My dear friend.
1. The sennheiser momentum 3 r not buds. They r over ear phones.
2. Its obvious that u cant help me with the oroblem, but u cant hep urself preaching, mumbling with no help.
3. Im MD.
4. Good luck overcoming the urge to write the last (insignificance-) word.
Try 2 stay healthy.
Peace out.
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Whatever. No facts supplied by you yet you want a detailed solution.
Medicine is an art not a science but that's no excuse for your reply.
If a set of studio monitors can't be heard at 2 feet away...
Cochlear Implants.
How you like me now?

Whoa, watch the disrespectful responses there, OP. I recently went 95% deaf and require like a 300% volume increase. So a 20% volume increase with over ear headphones means that they're much less deaf than me (probably around 10-30% deaf, or mild to medium hearing loss. Mine is highly severe hearing loss). Either way, if you can't modify the volume via the settings menus that were already mentioned, then you just have to upgrade to Android 11's beta or to normal Android 11 after the official release date near January. Since side loading the beta, the bluetooth volume has naturally increased by about 15-20% - which sounds like what you're looking for. But other than that, there's nothing that the poor kid can do to help him hear again (unless he's in the Northeast part of the US). He'll, unfortunately, have to get used to his hearing loss and give up on his passion for music. I specialized in audio production, so I used to PRODUCE music and listen to music for like five to six hours per day... Now, I listen to music for just one hour per week and never make music anymore. It took me around four months to adjust to my lack of hearing, but it ended up changing my lifestyle in order to help avoid the constant depression that comes along with hearing loss - especially when your life revolves around audio...
Oh, and side note, you're not supposed to use studio-esque over ear headphones with cellphones - especially not the Sennheiser brand. Sennheisers, for the most part, all naturally produce MUCH less sound when connected to a cellphone because they're not getting the extra volume boost via an amp that they were meant to receive the whole time. If you really think that his hearing issue is extremely bad, then get him some Aftershocks Aeropex bone conduction headphones - those are what I use now. Because even if you're completely deaf, you can still hear the the cochlear vibrations that they produce.

I use this. Besides being a music player it also came with a separate "Boom System FX" app that allows you to increase the volume system wide, whether using headphones, earbuds or just the phone speaker.

I know this isn't bluetooth, but this is probably the best solution you'll ever find for super loud high quality audio.
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Have you tried the app Volume Booster GOODEV. This is like a preamplifier that boosts and the amount can be adjusted. The phone volume can then be used. I use this and run it at 30% boost with 13% phone volume used only

rastamit said:
My dear friend.
1. The sennheiser momentum 3 r not buds. They r over ear phones.
2. Its obvious that u cant help me with the oroblem, but u cant hep urself preaching, mumbling with no help.
3. Im MD.
4. Good luck overcoming the urge to write the last (insignificance-) word.
Try 2 stay healthy.
Peace out.
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The guys trying to help you out and you respond back in this manner, unbelievable.

The volume controls can be adapted to allow volume outside of the parameters using a developer option and GOODEV volume booster. Go into developer options and disable Absolute Volume control.

rastamit said:
hi guys
I have a neighbor 12 y.o. boy that have hearing problem. he got 4 birthday present a Note 20 ultra 5g (korian).
This sweet kid really into music, but unfortunately the bluetooth headphones volume isnt good 4 him.
I checked the level that he need with another device (my home hifi), and I have to increase the phone volume by 20%./.
the device is: Device: SM-N986N (snapdragon), Android version: 10.
The family & the boy dont really care about loosing warranty, so any real solution - falshing mods\custom roms & so on - is great.
come on guys help do some good 4 that boy.
tnx
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Does he have hearing aids?
My daughter is legally deaf...
We bought few.months back new hearing aids,
Phonak naida marvel...they have bluetooth, andnit changed the world for her.

@rastamit
maybe the following app is something for you:
Poweramp Equalizer - Apps on Google Play
Poweramp Equalizer is an advanced audio processing app
play.google.com
The Dev of Poweramp has release an early access "Poweramp Equalizer" app. I use it for Spotify with Galaxy Buds. You can increase the volume easily up to 50% I guess. Actually I have it on 25% and sound is still good quality.