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Hey guys, i found the attached build from zenulator in the Vogue forum, been playing with it for a while and i must say it really great. The only problem i've found is that the WiFi is working. The problem appear to be similar to that which we had when the first eclair builds came out. I tried the updated rootfs to get the wifi to work but still no luck. Believe me guys if we can get this build together well it would really sweet!!
P.S. i have no skills in programming for linux, but still i'm will to help in testing further if possible.
Android Eclair 2.1 http://www.4shared.com/file/180373749/2e85c593/eclair-221209.html
wow, this system is really fast, i mean REALLY! fast....
and the startup animation (4 colours) is awesome!!!
in my opinion it's the best i've ever tested..
but... how about the MUSIC player app/spare parts? :/
It's 2.0.1 though, not 2.1.
zenulator said:
This is an Eclair 2.0.1 build taken from the 2.0.1 sdk image and parts of the droid/milestone/nexus and the launcher from manup456's build and also part of his build.prop. Settings reads this as 2.1 but it isn't. It's just for compatibility with some nexus apps.
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That being said, you can just use the 2.0.1 build found on this forum. I'm not stopping you from trying zen's, but like I said, it's not 2.1. Plus polyrhythmic's build has wi-fi.
By the way, here are some screenshots I found of what is apparently Flan (2.1).
Hey guys, the eclair thread is already existed, it's not necessary to post another here, the only new thing is adding the Nexus One Bootanimation, nothing new other than that... and if you read Zen's thread carefully, you would know that the most important unsolved problem is the current Eclair build never sleep!!! the drainage is so bad that it's not for daily use right now...
tommywoods said:
Hey guys, the eclair thread is already existed, it's not necessary to post another here, the only new thing is adding the Nexus One Bootanimation, nothing new other than that... and if you read Zen's thread carefully, you would know that the most important unsolved problem is the current Eclair build never sleep!!! the drainage is so bad that it's not for daily use right now...
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...Thank you for only repeating things I said in my post above yours. Oh wait, I said it didn't have sleep but then I edited my post, so that's one thing.
ok, fair enogh, but is it possible that the performance gains in this build could be done in the eclair 2.0.1 floating around? Becase i have used both and the performance of this one is actually alot faster!
Wow! Reaaly fast! Love it
Fast and stable!
Wifi is not working and the sound from speaker is broken intermittently...
I love this version....
Hope some fix for above problem...
Nosrahc said:
Fast and stable!
Wifi is not working and the sound from speaker is broken intermittently...
I love this version....
Hope some fix for above problem...
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Polyrhythmic's Eclair build in this same forum has wi-fi...
Hi All
it is fast, but my current new updated version i had seen on the vogue thread was also fast, and some nice graphics:
See update link in : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587116
Hi All,
Been looking around, (ive tried android on my kaiser once), and just wondered what is the best (most stable) android for kaiser, as a lot of them seem to have a lot under "not working"?
Thanks,
Tom,
Kinda hard to answer, since no one Android build has anything working 100%.
Myn’s Warm Donut will get you most of your stuff working, but there's still a lot of bugs.
Incubus26Jc's Super Eclair is pretty good, but you lose out on Camera and Bluetooth. Less bugs then Donut, but more stable IMO.
Although Polyrhythmic hasn't updated his 2.1D for a while, I still think it's the best of the eclairs. For Donut, Myn's is really the only game in town.
Eclair is still struggling with non-working camera, but GPS , WiFi, and BT are working reasonably well, if you are prepared to invest some time into hunting out the best combination of nbh and build.
Donut is reasonably complete, I have had Myns working with WiFi, GPS and Camera, or GPS, BT and Camera, but never managed all working at once, it is the most feature-complete and arguably the most stable build of all.
Given that we have only had Android on our kaisers since the end of last year, I still think that all the devs have done a remarkable job, and development continues.
Compared to the start of the year, when all that was possible was running from SD, with battery life measured in minutes, no wifi, gps, bt or camera, I think what we have now is a complete OS, it's been my everyday phone OS now for months, and once you get into a few good habits, it's stable and smooth, with decent battery life.
Thanks for replies guys,
I have installed Myn’s Warm Donut, but it seems the graphics are a bit weird, they seem like they are the wrong bit depth or something, not quite sure how to describe it.
Any help on this please?
Thanks,
Tom
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Thanks for replies guys,
I have installed Myn’s Warm Donut, but it seems the graphics are a bit weird, they seem like they are the wrong bit depth or something, not quite sure how to describe it.
Any help on this please?
Thanks,
Tom
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Q: I installed Android but now everything is blurry.
A: It's due to wrong resolution. Kaiser phones have panel for 230x320 but you're probably using 320x480 build. Here is a post by user tatnai where he explains this situation for Vogue devices (it goes same for Kaiser).
Android FAQ: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683644
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Myn's Warm Donut is basically a scaled down version of 320x480 resolution to fit 230x320 panels, with 110 density, hence the blurriness.
One build with native 230x320 I like is vilord's Tattoo Sense, but there is a camera and BT audio not working problem in that build - hopefully incubus26jc's next release will fix this.
milanche said:
Myn's Warm Donut is basically a scaled down version of 320x480 resolution to fit 230x320 panels, with 110 density, hence the blurriness.
One build with native 230x320 I like is vilord's Tattoo Sense, but there is a camera and BT audio not working problem in that build - hopefully incubus26jc's next release will fix this.
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vilord's Tattoo Sense sounds pretty good, and it has rosie which I'd love to see working stable. I think I'll try this on the weekend, but just wanted to know, has anyone tried this? is it stable and/or fast? Its for the touch, but as far as I've seen, vogue builds work for kaiser... would this work too?
milanche said:
Myn's Warm Donut is basically a scaled down version of 320x480 resolution to fit 230x320 panels, with 110 density, hence the blurriness.
One build with native 230x320 I like is vilord's Tattoo Sense, but there is a camera and BT audio not working problem in that build - hopefully incubus26jc's next release will fix this.
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Hi, thanks for reply, not that I don't believe you, but its not so much blurryness, there are pink and green bits everywhere? Or is this what your describing?
Thanks again,
Oh thats because you´ve choosed a wrong paneltype. Kaiser was built with 3 different Panels so you have to choose the right one. Look at the second sticky thread.
xPreSiDenT said:
vilord's Tattoo Sense sounds pretty good, and it has rosie which I'd love to see working stable. I think I'll try this on the weekend, but just wanted to know, has anyone tried this? is it stable and/or fast? Its for the touch, but as far as I've seen, vogue builds work for kaiser... would this work too?
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I've tried it and believe it's the best Android build so far, despite BT and Camera problem (which we should be able to fix as it is Donut 1.6 Android).
For Kaiser you should use kallt_kaffe's update to get Wifi working and it also fixes Rosie and Market.
Thanks for info.
Ok please dont flame me, ive looked around and I used to flash windows mobile all the time, but I really dont understand these nbh files.
What are they, what do they do, why are there different ones e.g voguimg.nbh and kaisimg.nbh and polimg.nbh
Thanks for your patience with me
XCougar said:
Thanks for info.
Ok please dont flame me, ive looked around and I used to flash windows mobile all the time, but I really dont understand these nbh files.
What are they, what do they do, why are there different ones e.g voguimg.nbh and kaisimg.nbh and polimg.nbh
Thanks for your patience with me
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VOGUIMG is for Vogue devices, POLAIMG is for Polaris devices and KAISIMG is for Kaiser. Think of them as some sort of bootloaders for Android. You flash the NBH, boot to the install console, install Android from SD to NAND/SD/EXT2 and boot Android. Also you have to choose the correct panel to avoid screen problems you're having. The only way to see which panel are you using on Kaiser is to test all three of them and see which one doesn't cause you screen problems.
To test which panel you're using you should first make an SD install with Haret, there you have the option to specifiy panel type in the config file default.txt and can change this before every boot. With NAND this is hard-coded into NBH file. Later you can flash to NAND if you decide to stick with Android.
Please go thru this Q/A topic, it should help you get the answers to most of newbie-type questions.
I´m not a developer and especially on android i´m a noob but i think the NBH contains all what is going to be flashed into nand. In case of WiMo it´s the whole Operating system, somtimes with radio too. In case of android the NBH contains the Kernel only. The kernel is designed for your device with all the drivers you need (touchscreen, wifi, BT, GPS, etc.). so kernels from other devices may not work becaus of other hardware specs. in worst case it may brick your device. I read alot before i flashed my kaiser an kallt_kaffe´s kernel seems to be the best for now. Nearly all funktions are available. Only the Camera have a bug, but i think it only takes only a little time to fix this too.
I use kallt_kaffe´s kernel and Myn´s Warm Donut RLS5 and i´m totally happy with it. Fingerfriendly (you´ll never need your stylus again except for reset ^^), and much more responsive then the fastest WiMo ROMs.
You only have to modify the nbh for your panel type. But you only can do trial & error to find out which type you have.
So... happy flashing.
Thanks everyone for your help, I have the tattoo sense rom on my phone now, my phone uses panel2 type of kaiser nbh.
I now understand the nbh better.
As im more then likely going to upgrade to a newer android rom when more stable ones come out, can anyone recommend a android application that will allow me to backup my txts, emails, contacts, and settings, etc.
Thanks all
SORRY PPL, I no longer have a Kaiser, so I can't update this list anymore.
Since I'm sick with people asking for the best android build all the time, I created an index of build with thing that not working. If the mod can sticky this then it will be good. If you have any other build, feel free to post it and I'll add it to the main post.
Donut: - Camera Quality, Video Recording, Front Camera
Myn's Warm Donut Download the Main Build and the Kaiser WIFI/BT Update.
Donut Evolution Download the BaseFile with Eclair Theme, Kaiser Wifi Update and a theme(if you want)
DZO Odex - Haven't tried
Eclair-Camera Quality
Polymod 2.1g
Polymod 2.1d
Super Eclair
CyanogenMod Test 3- Mssmison
CyanogenMod Stable - Aqtrans updated.
Myn's Warm Eclair
VaniljEclair
Incubus26Jc's SuperE CyanogenMod
BT AUDIO UPDATE:http://www.mediafire.com/?yng2o3mtjtd
FROYO - Camera quality.
DZO
Incubus
urban69
nuangel
kallt_kaffe
milanche
Rosie -
Hero 1.5 - Bluetooth. Jump to the last post of page 3 for my wifi update.
Hero 2.1/Espresso - Bluetooth, Camera
Tattoo 1.6 - Bluetooth
For espresso and hero, look for the wifi update in the thread. Its near the last couple of page.
PERSONAL Recommendation:
Best Overall:Myn Warm Donut
Fastest Sense:Tattoo
Best Sense:Espresso
Best Eclair:Super Eclair Odex
Use kallt_kaffe kernel for better gps. Dzo's kernel are usually newer. 1.5 and 1.6 use donut option in the nbh editor. 2.1 use eclair. 2.2 use froyo
dzos depository
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
k_k's custom builds when he finds something to update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660158
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NOTE: I got banned off my kaiser until my bookwork grade improve so I can't test it so please report what work and what doesn't
CM 5.0.7 (Eclair) has camera working just fine on HTC dream/G1
robertgibson said:
CM 5.0.7 (Eclair) has camera working just fine on HTC dream/G1
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On Vogue/Kaiser/Polaris the camera is not working on any eclair builds due to the lack of compatible libs. It's the same for all eclair builds.
thebulletfromhell said:
Tattoo - Bluetooth
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tattoo is donut
i would also note that sense is a customization by HTC and not a version of android
Changed it to sense. I put sense as a catagory because it use a different launcher and apps. Music, Album and more are all htc's version, not just a skin
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Changed it to sense. I put sense as a catagory because it use a different launcher and apps. Music, Album and more are all htc's version, not just a skin
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That is true but you still need a donut .nbh
Its basically the same thing as manilla(touchflo) on wimo
Manila doesn't extend as far. HTC made replacement program for most of the android program. Even the setting is a HTC one
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/08/18/htc-touchflo-3d-2-6-gets-up-close-and-personal.html
manilla is just what we call the wimo hack. same thing. of course different OS are going to be different.
Rosie -
Hero 1.5 - Bluetooth. Jump to the last post of page 3 for my wifi update.
Hero 2.1/Espresso - Bluetooth, Camera
Tattoo 1.6 - Bluetooth
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you did indicate that its 1.6, all i was trying to say is that if you have a build index for noobs you should note that hero 1.5 and tattoo need donut roms
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...If the mod can sticky this then it will be good....
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I made this a sticky but I need to make sure that you will keep this as current as possible.
Thanks.
Binary100100 said:
I made this a sticky but I need to make sure that you will keep this as current as possible.
Thanks.
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please update with
k_k made one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6783417#post6783417
incubus' new one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699733
blindguyinanorgy said:
please update with
k_k made one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6783417#post6783417
incubus' new one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699733
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Done. Just pm the op to edit his first post since I'm not really kept up to date on the Tilt mods.
as it shouldnt be your responsibility! thanks for watching
blindguyinanorgy said:
as it should be your responsibility! thanks for watching
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I haven't used a Tilt in about three years so it's difficult for me to know what works and what doesn't especially since I haven't tried Android on the Tilt (well... maybe once).
If the OP wants this thread to remain active then (s)he can edit the first post with the updated information. I am assigned to three different threads with thousands of posts to monitor. I can't be assigned to just this one in particular. If it's going to be up to me to keep the first post updated then I'll be eventually closing it only because there is no way I can keep it updated. So I'm designating the responsibility to the OP.
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I haven't used a Tilt in about three years so it's difficult for me to know what works and what doesn't especially since I haven't tried Android on the Tilt (well... maybe once).
If the OP wants this thread to remain active then (s)he can edit the first post with the updated information. I am assigned to three different threads with thousands of posts to monitor. I can't be assigned to just this one in particular. If it's going to be up to me to keep the first post updated then I'll be eventually closing it only because there is no way I can keep it updated. So I'm designating the responsibility to the OP.
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sorry that was a typo
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sorry that was a typo
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Ah good! Thanks for clearing that up! I'm glad that we are on the same page.
DZO donut
Dzo released a fast and responsive donut build. I think he ment it mostly as a proof of concept, but anyway it is fantastic. find it here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694597
bandur said:
Dzo released a fast and responsive donut build. I think he ment it mostly as a proof of concept, but anyway it is fantastic. find it here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694597
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the vaniljEclair from k_k uses the same odex script.
both much faster and take less space. chose your desert (donut or eclair)
thanks for posting. u might need to pm bullet
Just a thought but would it also be helpful to list ther availible kernals (and where to get them from) for each release in this thread? After reading through a few threads it seem apparant that its important to use the right kernal with the right build, its not always clear, what goes with what.
not a bad idea. although the newest kernal always goes with
dzos depository
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
k_k's custom builds when he finds something to update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660158
Myn's Warm Eclair
Incubus26Jc's SuperE CyanogenMod
have both been updated!
Can I Run it using Haret?
I dont wanna install it.
Absolutely!!!!
I have been playing with Froyo on my Kaiser for weeks and loving it...I've always flashed to Nand, not worrying to much about putting winmo back on the device (but believe me, you won't want to) Just search this forum, there are excellent devs and tutorials on running Android from SD using Haret and flashing via Hardspl....Ive tried many ROM's and can recommend Icubus' Super Froyo RLS12 and Milanches Cyanogen mod 6 for Kaiser RLS4....
Id start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
Then check out these two links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732040
XDA is truly the cutting edge for Mobile phone development....You have come to the right place...
All the credit goes to the genius of the many devs on this forum....
Does the camera,GPS and blutooth work?
Does the camera,GPS and blutooth work?
yes it works
Yes you most certainly can I am running CyanogemMod6 on mine quite happily, everything seems to work just fine. Enjoy.
Leona, got 1 question here, i've been a loyal dzo's fresh froyo, so far my favourite distro less hiccup no restart, but still the camera doesn't improve much, dark picture, how is camera on cyanogenmod6 doing? in terms of picture quality and brightness.
Thanks.
Kaiser 130 (panel 2)
radio/spl: 1.71* / 3.34
Dzo's fresh froyo 26-07 (Nand)
akmalxxx said:
Leona, got 1 question here, i've been a loyal dzo's fresh froyo, so far my favourite distro less hiccup no restart, but still the camera doesn't improve much, dark picture, how is camera on cyanogenmod6 doing? in terms of picture quality and brightness.
Thanks.
Kaiser 130 (panel 2)
radio/spl: 1.71* / 3.34
Dzo's fresh froyo 26-07 (Nand)
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Hi Akmalxxx, I am possibly not the best person to ask that, since my sight isn't great, all I can tell you is that the camera works, seems the same as other builds I have tried.
Now as I understand it, cyanogenmod6 uses the same zImage as Fresh, (dzo's latest 26-07-10) so I would assume/expect that the camera would be the same?
oh i totally forgot about the kernel, thanks for the clarification, guess i should wait for new kernels.
Everyone's aware of froyd, chronos etc since they're actively being developed by people here but I've been using CM6 nightlies since they started being released and they work great! Music controls for lockscreen and a nice configurable power control widget have appeared in the recent builds. I don't even mind the lack of a changelog, more fun working it out for yourself
So, does anyone else use them? Have a look here: http://mirror.kanged.net/cm/nightly/hero/
:O i didnt know there was still work going into CM6 for Hero. Ive been checking one Github Commits page, there were no updates for a while and assumed ppl had given up!
out of curiosity, whos developing those nightlies?
I'm not sure - it's possible i suppose that the new features are just CM6 bits which happen to work ok and no-one's really working towards making it work better on the hero but lox should be back on the case in a couple of weeks and it's no more broken than the other roms....
Do we need to wipe for these, or can we flash them over the current alpha?
Is the camera working in this ROM?..
sinding said:
Is the camera working in this ROM?..
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no, trust me you'll know when froyo gets a rom with camera working
[edit] actually, it kinda does... the preview only seems to update when something else is moving though, so for example if you press menu, it will work while the menu animation is going on, also auto focus actually seemed to work. So you can get a half-useful camera if you spam menu constantly or rotate the phone like mad. [edit]
The camera doesn't work right but it doesn't work the same way every time I know i can take photos, I just can't see what I'm taking photos of....
I've flashed each nightly over the previous one all the way back and had no issues, just a dalvik wipe each re-flash.
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... but lox should be back on the case in a couple of weeks ...
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Exciting news! I was beginning to lose hope that the CM6 Alpha build would ever make it out of Alpha.
For those that didn't see it, Lox tweeted this morning with that update.
https://twitter.com/LoxDev
where can I find google apps for this?
no market??
yeah, you miss things 'cause you need to install google apps
I just don't know where to download
on feeyo's website on froyo 2.2 is a link with google apps
http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=198
just not sure if you can flash them over this one..
don't know wich ones are included either, but it's worth a shot
grtz
this is the gaps for CM6 nightlis build:
http://www.multiupload.com/9LJMNBHOXF
and this is the link to the original thread of @maxisma:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717824
maxniper said:
this is the gaps for CM6 nightlis build:
http://www.multiupload.com/9LJMNBHOXF
and this is the link to the original thread of @maxisma:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717824
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thank you : )
There's a newer version of the gapps for cm6 here:
http://www.multiupload.com/DPC7H4DDFO
kieranc said:
Everyone's aware of froyd, chronos etc since they're actively being developed by people here but I've been using CM6 nightlies since they started being released and they work great! Music controls for lockscreen and a nice configurable power control widget have appeared in the recent builds. I don't even mind the lack of a changelog, more fun working it out for yourself
So, does anyone else use them? Have a look here: http://mirror.kanged.net/cm/nightly/hero/
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I stopped flashing them when I found zero differences in them between builds that were 3 or 4 days apart.
I'm happy they're adding little things still, but the changes I see in cronos and fusion (in particular) are far more dramatic and useful than what I saw in the nightlies from maxisma et al.
The nightlies were the first, and originally the best (and only) froyo. I loved the original test0 build, it was so solid and fast, but with lots of broken bits.
However with the new cronos from yesterday and fusion as an alternative, and froyd of course which hasn't changed in a while but is always solid, fairly quick and runs well... I'd trust those over nightlies any day.
Nightlies aren't meant for mass use or stability - any nightly could suddenly break things. I know they're pretty solid now but it's because thy're not doing significant things either, adding little widgets etc is nice but not really amazing or anything.
I'll stick with Cronos which I'll bet you performs faster in gpu results.
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The camera doesn't work right but it doesn't work the same way every time I know i can take photos, I just can't see what I'm taking photos of....
I've flashed each nightly over the previous one all the way back and had no issues, just a dalvik wipe each re-flash.
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that is all exactly the same with all froyo roms on the hero.
so if anything is thinking "hey, well in that case I'll flash the nightly so I can at least get SOME previews and some camera operation", it's exactly as with froyd, fusion and cronos. occasional previews, autofocus that works then makes it out of focus again before taking the pic, some crashing of the phone, some gps getting stuck on with camera magic, zero video recording.
For people who think of changing...
Nightly Builds from 6/8/2010 !
Froyo 2.2
Advantages:
- JIT and Compcache on/off
- Overclockable ( to 710MHz )
- all 2.2 benefits otherwise
Bugs (as far as i know):
- Camera (like all 2.2 roms)
- Landscape in gallery 3D
- Battery life isn't that good (imo)
Scores:
- Linpack: 3,531 MFLOPS (JIT on) / 2.32 MFLOPS (JIT off)
- BenchmarkPI: 10863 ms
Screens in attachments
grtz
I've been using the nightly builds, and like it a lot. I've requested changelogs though, but sadly I still haven't got any response on that matter. I don't notice that much differences between the nightly builds, but a few things I noticed lately:
1) browser doesn't FC when closing the last tab anymore
2) music controls on the lockscreen (provided by koush for CM6)
Would be great if we could keep track on changes in this thread. I love changelogs ;-)
opera mini has stopped working for me over the last few days which has made me realise how slow the stock browser is... might have to do something about it.
edit: opera working again in latest nightly