Hello,
Running Cyanogen CM6 RC1 here. I've been having trouble sending long text messages, which I initially diagnosed as a problem sending MMS.Specifically whenever I tried to send a long text message (longer than 160 chars) it would just hang and say "sending" for like 5 minutes before I get a failure report. Curiously, I had no trouble sending or receiving messages with multimedia content, like images.
After some additional tinkering and web searching, I discovered that MMS was working fine. Rather, my phone is trying to send text messages between 161 and 480 characters as SMS without breaking them apart into the appropriate number of parcels. Above 460, or 3x160, the phone is converting them to MMS and it goes through just fine.
Is there a way to change the threshold before which SMS are converted to MMS? I think all the EVO owners are pretty much on the same plan which gives us unlimited media messaging, therefore there is no point in not sending any SMS over 160 chars as an MMS. Is there a way we could change the threshold to 1? I imagine this is what HTC did in their messenger that was installed with Sense.
*Temporary solution:* If anyone else out there is having this problem, but doesn't have a solution, I have a temporary one. Simply download and use the free Handcent SMS application, and in the settings (settings>send message settings>Split 160) change the value from "Don't split" to "Simple Split". This will automatically break up messages between 161-460 into 2-3 parcels of 160 chars or less.
Handcent i think has those setting parameters.
also, this is a known issue already, and has already been greatly discussed.
infamousjax said:
Handcent i think has those setting parameters.
also, this is a known issue already, and has already been greatly discussed.
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Sorry, I was typing an edit as you made the mention about handcent. However, I haven't found the setting that allows you to change the threshold--only to make the message split. Also, it will allow to turn off conversion altogether. Am I not seeing it?
Also, perhaps I'm not so savvy here, but I've been unable to find any solutions on forums or anywhere. If this issue is already very well discussed, any chance you provide me with a link please?
I have this same problem which is VERY annoying! Like you said I have not seen it discussed before either!
It's not a CM6 issue.
It's an Android issue.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2318
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drmacinyasha said:
It's not a CM6 issue.
It's an Android issue.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2318
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So it would appear then that there is no solution to this?
yeah, there is a solution. use handcent. chomp probably does it too.
btw, you may want to post your questions in the 'questions' section
timothydonohue said:
yeah, there is a solution. use handcent. chomp probably does it too.
btw, you may want to post your questions in the 'questions' section
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Ah, next time I'll use the questions section. Regarding Handcent, does this actually allow me set the threshold, or just break up longer messages into multiple SMS--I mean, does Handcent present another solution other than the one I specified in my initial post?
AFAIK, SMS length is an agreed upon standard that probably in the near future won't be changed. longer messages will be broken up into transmissable lengths of 160 chars, until a message is long enough that it is actually simpler on the network to send the whole thing as a single MMS loaf.
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Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile
You need to speak to tmobile.
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.
if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
O and O said:
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
Raminder1992 said:
it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!
is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?
This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.
ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast
using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms
UPDATE: I've found a fix for this issue - AWESOME!
Just go to the Android Market and install the SMS Time Fix app by Matt Precious.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-mattprecious-smsfix-pAFq.aspx
It works perfectly, and updates the time stamp on all messages to relfect PHONE time and not network time. HINT: Make sure the "Last Resort" option is checked in the settings and offset is set to zero. This little app now makes the Evo Messages app usable. Finally...
Hope this is helpful info
Does anyone know if this issue has been fixed in the HTC Sense Froyo Update?
Matt_TX said:
So, I've been reading and experiencing several issues with SMS timestamps on the Evo 4G.
It seems there are three distinct issues with SMS timestamps on the the Evo and I believe they all have the same root cause.
Issue 1: When roaming texts are received with the wrong time stamp, offset by several hours (typically 4 or 5 hours off). This causes them to not be threaded in the conversation correctly. Very annoying.
Issue 2: When receiving SMS messages on any network (Sprint or Roaming), the time stamp is off by an hour. The result is the same as Issue 1, but a less extreme example.
Issue 3: When texting back and forth in quick succession, SMS messages are not logged in the order in which they are received, and received text messages ALWAYS appear before sent text messages if they are sent during the same minute, regardless of which one was actually sent first. This is also very annoying.
I believe the root cause is that the native Sense UI messaging app is using the timestamp of the tower of each SMS rather than using the time stored on the phone. To prove this, if you use Handcent and set it to use "phone time" and ignore the tower time, it works perfectly. The thing is that I don't want to use Handcent and I want to use the native app. Is there a setting that can be tweaked to fix this? Has anyone talked to HTC or Sprint about the issue and is a fix in the works?
For such a major problem, I am surprised more people haven't come forward. It's a pretty significant bug...
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no it has not, ive been having problems with this, ALOT.
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Hi I've searched around in different Android sense areas and can't seem to find an answer so I'm asking it, please if I missed it point me in the right direction.
I have a new Droid Incredible, just switched over from a Touch Pro 2, and I love it except for the fact that SMS Recipients is capped at 10. On the WinMo phone you could go in a tweak the registry to allow however many you wanted. On Android is there a way to do this? I plan on rooting it so that won't be a problem if I need too. I've read to use Handcent (has been giving me annoying pop-ups) or ChompSMS but I'd prefer just be able to use Messages.
I dont have a sense rom anymore, but if I remember correctly, it's as simple as going into messages..pressing menu..pull up settings, and then think with storage settings. You should be able to adjust the limit per thread and conversation numbers. Let me know if I am delusional..but I'm pretty sure that's it.
I've found that and theres a place where I can limit the amount of sms and mms's however nothing about recipients anywhere Any other ideas?
Anyone else have ideas? I'm using Handcent but after I send one message it acts like my group is empty and I have to restart the phone. Chomp was sending double messages, are there any other programs or methods out there? The group has 58 members
I searched the CM7 thread, but MMS and issue are such vague queries that I was unable to find anything pertaining to my issue.
I can receive MMS fine, but I cannot send at all. I choose the pic I want to send and hit send, and it just disappears. Doesn't show up in the thread of messages. Then when I back out of it, I see the last message I sent that person is (no subject) like it was my pic, but when I go into the thread it is not sent. But it shows up with the pic again like I never sent it. It saves it as a draft. Any time I hit send it does the same thing over and over. I can't even get the pic to delete from drafts. The only way is to delete the whole thread.
I have changed my number in the call settings to show with a +509251xxxx, no dashes or anything. Is there something else I am missing? I have tried several different CM7 builds and all have the same problem.
bump - really? Nothin guys?
Edit: reflashed CM7 and only restored apps+data, no system data and problem was resolved. I assumed since my system data was from a prior CM7 version that it would be no problem, apparently I was wrong. Thank me for all the help
I have the same issue. It doesn't disappear for me, but it just stays there wit the spinning circle thing. It never sends and after a couple of minutes, it says I cannot send the MMS.
Is there a solution without reflashing?
same problem.mine says mms is too large
I have the opposite issue. I've been completely unable to pin down the issue. I can MMS myself pictures and can MMS them to my email, but I cannot receive them. I used to receive them just fine, but now it's an issue.
I've confirmed that I can't receive them from iPhones, BlackBerries, and other Android phones.
I've checked my APN and know it works. I can access Mobile Data.
I've tried third party apps for messaging and that doesn't help.
I've spoofed as an iPhone, BlackBerry, and Custom (Blank) Agent without any results.
I've ensured my phone number in system settings doesn't have any symbols.
Anyone fix this issue?
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I searched the CM7 thread, but MMS and issue are such vague queries that I was unable to find anything pertaining to my issue.
I can receive MMS fine, but I cannot send at all. I choose the pic I want to send and hit send, and it just disappears. Doesn't show up in the thread of messages. Then when I back out of it, I see the last message I sent that person is (no subject) like it was my pic, but when I go into the thread it is not sent. But it shows up with the pic again like I never sent it. It saves it as a draft. Any time I hit send it does the same thing over and over. I can't even get the pic to delete from drafts. The only way is to delete the whole thread.
I have changed my number in the call settings to show with a +509251xxxx, no dashes or anything. Is there something else I am missing? I have tried several different CM7 builds and all have the same problem.
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Uhh, yeah that sucks: I have absolutely no idea, im on GingerVill 1.5 and it works fine, I also flashed sense, regular cm7, miui, and I never had a problem with it..
Try to download handscent or go sms and try that? I doubt that will work but give it a try!
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I have the opposite issue. I've been completely unable to pin down the issue. I can MMS myself pictures and can MMS them to my email, but I cannot receive them. I used to receive them just fine, but now it's an issue.
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Anyone fix this issue?
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I've got a similar issue -
Using CM7 7.0.3's Mms.apk my phone processes sms no problem, however it will not process mms - send or receive.
Go SMS Pro however will let me SEND picture messages - and Its going through my carrier because in an email to myself it was full of their crap - Sent to you from a Koodo Mobile Customer!
Unfortunately I cannot receive mms; Go SMS implies that it relies on the Mms.apk to forward notifications.
Considering that the Mms.apk isn't syncing with the mmsc properly, I'm assuming the problem lies there. I've even gone so far as to go to one of the phone kiosks and ask to play with their new Nexus S (*drool*) and ripped the apns off of it and uploaded their apn directly to my phone. Still, no dice.
Any suggestions anyone?
I've been having the same problems. Tried lots of things. I was also using Go SMS pro, and thought that was the issue. Tried fooling around with apn, user agent and MMS size etc... Nothing worked except the simple fix:
What I had to do to make it work was to have my mobile network on -- (which I almost always have off from the notification switches). Once it was turned on, it still didn't kick over because I was connected to wifi. So I had to manually disable wifi and then resend the message. It worked fine then.
So:
Turn off wifi
turn on mobile / 3g
resend message
Seems like a simple bug that's keeping the mobile network from kicking on.
Before I switched to sprint I had used T-Mobile LG G3. The default messaging app split long text messages into two or three, and I received long messages in similar chunks. But I used the Textra messaging app and it ceased to do that. Long messages sent as one as well as receiving 500+ character text.
Now, being with sprint the problems have re-appeared and I an unable to fix it. Textra does not change the sms limits so I send multiple text to friends and likewise with receiving. This is not a huge issue just a major inconvenience and a nuisance.
Are there setting I'm messing, apps that will help, anything i can do to keep long message as one? Please and thank you for your help.
I think it's a Sprint issue. I've been with them for a long time and always remember this happening. However, if there is a fix, I'd love to know it also.
Newkidintown said:
Before I switched to sprint I had used T-Mobile LG G3. The default messaging app split long text messages into two or three, and I received long messages in similar chunks. But I used the Textra messaging app and it ceased to do that. Long messages sent as one as well as receiving 500+ character text.
Now, being with sprint the problems have re-appeared and I an unable to fix it. Textra does not change the sms limits so I send multiple text to friends and likewise with receiving. This is not a huge issue just a major inconvenience and a nuisance.
Are there setting I'm messing, apps that will help, anything i can do to keep long message as one? Please and thank you for your help.
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Sprint has the 160 character limit for SMS texting. If you want to text longer messages as a single message, you either need to use an instant messaging app like Google Hangouts (though those require the recipient to also have the messaging app), or find a texting app that can convert long messages to MMS if it goes past the 160 character limit. These solutions will convert the SMS to MMS or other forms of data, though, so just be aware of that if you have some sort of data limit.
If the converting SMS to data is not a viable solution, a quick google search revealed this app: BigSMS, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=skezza.main&hl=en.
It supposedly can make long texts, but I have never used it myself, so I can't comment on if it works or not.
metayoshi said:
Sprint has the 160 character limit for SMS texting. If you want to text longer messages as a single message, you either need to use an instant messaging app like Google Hangouts (though those require the recipient to also have the messaging app), or find a texting app that can convert long messages to MMS if it goes past the 160 character limit. These solutions will convert the SMS to MMS or other forms of data, though, so just be aware of that if you have some sort of data limit.
If the converting SMS to data is not a viable solution, a quick google search revealed this app: BigSMS,
It supposedly can make long texts, but I have never used it myself, so I can't comment on if it works or not.
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As I said before, I used Textra in the past and my messages were sent as one and I received long messages as one. I recently downloaded EvolveSms which fixed the issue of my messages being split by converting them into MMS (which i have no problem with at all) but I still got 4 separate chunks of their message. I know there's an option to reassemble split messages but it seems to not be working. I'll go to a sprint store to see if there's an issue there or not.
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As I said before, I used Textra in the past and my messages were sent as one and I received long messages as one. I recently downloaded EvolveSms which fixed the issue of my messages being split by converting them into MMS (which i have no problem with at all) but I still got 4 separate chunks of their message. I know there's an option to reassemble split messages but it seems to not be working. I'll go to a sprint store to see if there's an issue there or not.
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Ok, Good luck with with the Sprint customer rep. The split SMS thing never bothered me since I've been on Sprint for a very long time. However, I did a quick google search, and it does seem like some devices have native support for recombining received SMS messages, like the Sprint Galaxy S 5, so it does look like it can work. Hopefully they can do it on the G4 as well.