BAN BT OpenZone - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys
We have recently had BT open up a Wifi ripoff spot. My Desire seems to like it and is willing to connect to it rather than the 3g network. The wifi spots are unsecured and direct you to the Payment page.
Is there a way to ban this wifi spot so that it will still auto connect to all my other wifi spots that I added myself?
Thanks in advance

Have you taken it off of your remembered hotspots list? If not go to setting, wireless and networks, wireless or WiFi then it should give you a list of remembered hotspots. Click on a hotbot and the option to forget should pop up
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hi mate i have seen this option but did assume it would just find it again anyway. Does the network go on some sort of hidden blacklist once you tell it to forget.

oh I am going to try it anyway btw and thanks very much for the reply.

If you connect to an open network, it will always try to reconnect to it again once you are in range. So, you need to "forget" the network - it isn't blacklisted and you can still connect to it again if you wish, but it won't try to auto-connect all the while it is "forgotten".
Regards,
Dave

Sorry for opening up this old thread, but I have a issue in the same line, altho fundamentaly diferent:
I have a number of accessible networks within my range. I have a small issue with the auto connect. Is it possible to have the phone remember the network settings for networks, but NOT auto-connect to them?
Or make an ordered list with most preferred AP on top? When I'm in my garage, signal strength make the phone conect to my neighbor (I have his network in my list too, as I often visit and then uses his AP), but want my own LAN and shared folders accessible...
Not sure you guys get my meaning. It wasn't very well written, but I hope you are able to help?

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Xda IIs & WLAN/GPRS issues

Upgraded from Xda II to Xda IIs end January and initially WLAN worked fine, but no GPRS. Went though process of creating GPRS connection (with O2 Support) and now cannot get IE to connect through WLAN. It always tries GPRS! Has anyone experienced this and/or got a solution?
Mike,
You will need to give us some more info on your settings.
If its an O2 unit with original firmwware if you back stuff up try a hard reset to get default settings back and ensure GPRS works then add the WLAN.
I live in Caldecote just outside Cambridge if you get really stuck we could meet up and you can try and copy my settings and check your SIM has GPRS enabled using mine that kind of thing.
Cheers Wayne
Many thanks Wayne. I'll do a backup and hard reset (with trembling hand no doubt) and see where I get to before getting back to you. Many thanks for the offer of help. I'm in Barrington, so it's not a million miles to come to talk if necessary.
you might already know this mike and if so at least it may be of help to others.
if your gprs connection is active then it doesn't matter wheather the wireless lan is on or off, internet explorer will always connect to gprs.
switch off gprs by clickiing on (in my case O2) your service providers icon and if "mobile web" is highlighted then click on it to switch it off.
Thanks, but I'd tried that and more. Eventually, as Wayne suggested, I did the dreaded hard reset and restored everything from scratch. I now have WLan working on my home LAN, but as I have such lousy GSM/GPRS coverage here I haven't yet tried to see if the GPRS side is now going to work. That's for tomorrow and where I started in the first place when I found it wasn't working! :?
Thank everyone for the suggestions.
Hello Mike
I had the same problem, and after thorough search I found the solution:
start->settings->connections -> advanced
select networks : both drop-down boxes are set to
"my work network"
This prevents the automatic gprs connections.
If you want gprs you can use the wireless manager
(start->programs->wireless manager)
and there tap the red gprs icon
In other words RTFM....
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13869&highlight=wifi +gprs
Hanan
Hanan

Prioritize wifi over gsm?

Hi people
Firstly, awesome forum! Although I don't post here, this forum has helped me numerous times. This is the first time i could not solve a problem and therefore had to post about. So a big fat thanks to all you guys!
I notice when my email is being updated or my contacts facebook updates, sometimes (most times actually) it connects via Edge even though I'm at home with wifi. Some programs and also browsing uses Edge over wifi at times. Is there any way to make it choose wifi over Edge, if its available, ALL the time?
Thanks in advance
If you are connected to a wifi network it should always use that over MediaNet. Mine does, at least. If you'll just leave the wifi in the on position in the Comm Manager and have it config'd for your home network it should automatically connect whenever you are at home.
epoh said:
If you are connected to a wifi network it should always use that over MediaNet. Mine does, at least. If you'll just leave the wifi in the on position in the Comm Manager and have it config'd for your home network it should automatically connect whenever you are at home.
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Man, if I turn on my WiFi radio continuously, the battery heads for zero in a hurry! I keep mine off unless I know I'm in range of a network I can use.

Closed Wifi networks preventing data connection.

Is there any way to prevent your data connection from being lost when a secured Wifi network is within range. I don't understand why the phone gives a secured wifi network preference over your carriers network... effectively preventing any data connection until you turn off wifi.
Just one example of this annoying problem came when I was navigating to a job location and a road was closed. GPS could not reroute me because I was in a residential neighborhood picking up lots of wifi networks. All the them were secured. So... in order to reroute I had to toggle off my wifi so that my phone would go back to connecting through my carrier.
Why do phones do this? Until your device obtains an IP address from the wifi hotspot it should not bypass the carriers data connection. Is there any way around this that doesn't require constantly turning wifi on and off?
Many thanks...
JIW said:
Is there any way to prevent your data connection from being lost when a secured Wifi network is within range. I don't understand why the phone gives a secured wifi network preference over your carriers network... effectively preventing any data connection until you turn off wifi.
Just one example of this annoying problem came when I was navigating to a job location and a road was closed. GPS could not reroute me because I was in a residential neighborhood picking up lots of wifi networks. All the them were secured. So... in order to reroute I had to toggle off my wifi so that my phone would go back to connecting through my carrier.
Why do phones do this? Until your device obtains an IP address from the wifi hotspot it should not bypass the carriers data connection. Is there any way around this that doesn't require constantly turning wifi on and off?
Many thanks...
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Never had this problem.... My GS3 has always ignored secured and unsecured wifi networks unless I specifically request to connect to them. The only thing I can think is that its trying to connect to the same SSID that you're using at home like "netgear" or something. If that's the case, shame on you for not changing your default SSID at home.
If not, what setup are you on? Stock/rom/kernel etc.
My SSID does not match anything out there. It happens all the time. When I go to my kids favorite park my phone tries to connect to a cablevison hotspot. When I open an app like Facebook or tapatalk it just hangs. If I open a web browser I get redirected to one of those sign in pages. As soon as I turn off wifi I go back to 4G and browse as normal.
This happens on every phone I've ever owned including my wife's phone, parents phones and brothers phone. I just figured it was something everyone dealt with.... Was hoping for a work around.
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JIW said:
My SSID does not match anything out there. It happens all the time. When I go to my kids favorite park my phone tries to connect to a cablevison hotspot. When I open an app like Facebook or tapatalk it just hangs. If I open a web browser I get redirected to one of those sign in pages. As soon as I turn off wifi I go back to 4G and browse as normal.
This happens on every phone I've ever owned including my wife's phone, parents phones and brothers phone. I just figured it was something everyone dealt with.... Was hoping for a work around.
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doesn't happen on my phone.
Randomacts said:
doesn't happen on my phone.
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my telus s3 does this too very annoying having to turn off the wifi to use carries data
Thank you. Starting to think I was the only one
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Try it yourself, G4 unable to autoconnect to any open WiFi ('internet unavailble')

I would like to invite everyone to try if they have the same problem
For me, I have done a lot of testing, and I have found that, with any open WiFi hotspot (ones doesn't require wifi password to connect, with captive login or not), even G4 saved the network, half times it won't autoconnect.
When you go into wifi setting, the network is there, and there is an message below the nextwork saying:
"internet is unavailable, cannot autoconnect"
But if you tab it manually, it will connect and fine. I tested it with multiple hotspots and all have the same problem. I tried all different ways like delete the networks and re-add, nothing works.
Any of you have same problem please confirm below and let us know if you have found a solution, this is yet another ridiculous problem LG4 has and not fixing it, who are they to decide internet is available or not on a wifi hotspot?
my G4 is 812 10c
Any one encounter the same problem?
Yes I have this issue also. Don't know what would be causing the problem
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Thanks for confirming,
Very annoying issue and I am surprised it hasn't be raised and discussed in here.
For me it is way worse than occasional touch issue
Any solutions will be appreciated
chubbrock said:
Yes I have this issue also. Don't know what would be causing the problem
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I can confirm I have the same issue with mine. Very annoying.
Thanks for confirming, again showing it's not an isolated instance.
Is this issue only for Hotspots? Or any Wifi device? I ask, because I don't see a problem with my WiFi router at home.
raravi said:
Is this issue only for Hotspots? Or any Wifi device? I ask, because I don't see a problem with my WiFi router at home.
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For me it is only for open Wi-FI (no password required to connect), the tend to be public hotspots.
offall said:
For me, I have done a lot of testing, and I have found that, with any open WiFi hotspot, (with captive login or not), even G4 saved the network, half times it won't autoconnect.
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That underlined bit is interesting.
so it seems this only occurs with open networks ie ones that don't require a userid/pass.
otherwise you have no problems connecting when there required login is required and is saved already.
eg. your home wifi ?
some more reading led me to this post.
My G4 doesn't have any problem with the open network at my work. It connects automatically as soon as I drive in the parking lot, if I leave and come back, as soon as I'm in range it re-connects just fine.
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Have we considered this might be done on purpose as a safety thing?
You shouldn't want your phone/laptop connecting to any OPEN network automatically that you haven't vetted. This is how scammers skim passwords, etc., by offering 'free' wifi hotspots in busy areas.
waylo said:
Have we considered this might be done on purpose as a safety thing?
You shouldn't want your phone/laptop connecting to any OPEN network automatically that you haven't vetted. This is how scammers skim passwords, etc., by offering 'free' wifi hotspots in busy areas.
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Not quite, it happens on open networks that I have connected to before i.e. saved and as you put it vetted.
Connecting to saved networks that are passkey protected works fine.
Yes that's right, for me the network that requires password has no problem to auto connect
And the post you linked for refresh DHCP, I tested and it doesn't solve the problem
One Twelve said:
That underlined bit is interesting.
so it seems this only occurs with open networks ie ones that don't require a userid/pass.
otherwise you have no problems connecting when there required login is required and is saved already.
eg. your home wifi ?
some more reading led me to this post.
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Then there is no problem here is there ?
I also have this problem.
To clarify, my situation is for open wifi where the provider redirects you to a webpage where you click "ok" or "accept" to proceed.
The first time I connect, it's fine. But, when my phone tries to auto-connect the next day, it gives the error described. So, I have to manually open up wifi connections, view the list, select the wifi name, and connect.
So it works fine after some manual intervention, but there is a bug I think in how the G4 handles these types of open wifi connections, once they are saved in the phone's history and you try to connect again later. So there is a problem here, but it's somewhat nuanced and easy to miss.
KingFatty said:
I also have this problem.
To clarify, my situation is for open wifi where the provider redirects you to a webpage where you click "ok" or "accept" to proceed.
The first time I connect, it's fine. But, when my phone tries to auto-connect the next day, it gives the error described. So, I have to manually open up wifi connections, view the list, select the wifi name, and connect.
So it works fine after some manual intervention, but there is a bug I think in how the G4 handles these types of open wifi connections, once they are saved in the phone's history and you try to connect again later. So there is a problem here, but it's somewhat nuanced and easy to miss.
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Your description sums up the situation well.
Doing what you want could create a problem of another sort. read this.
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/64380/stop-wifi-connecting-to-open-networks
No this is not the same.
i only want G4 to autoconnect to network I saved before, meaning the one i have used before and want to use it again.
The problem you are referring to is having android auto connect to random networks, which of course should not happen.
Also G4 currently does not connect to open wifi that doesnt require login either. Even it clear have good internet connection, it wont reconnect, which is clearly a bug
One Twelve said:
Doing what you want could create a problem of another sort. read this.
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/64380/stop-wifi-connecting-to-open-networks
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offall said:
No this is not the same.
i only want G4 to autoconnect to network I saved before, meaning the one i have used before and want to use it again.
The problem you are referring to is having android auto connect to random networks, which of course should not happen.
Also G4 currently does not connect to open wifi that doesnt require login either. Even it clear have good internet connection, it wont reconnect, which is clearly a bug
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see this is where it gets tricky, that post was referring to networks set up by a telco around the city. the ssid is the same its not a random network. This is exactly what you want.
you accepted it when you were in location a, now you are at location b and want to connect. so it should connect automatically ie no different than if you were to return back to location a.
You said home wifi works, so leaving wifi on, walk out of range and then come back in range and it connects automatically. And you expect the same behaviour with an open wifi that you accepted prior.
Way i understood it is that guy is complaining about what you want with open wifi
Thanks for clarifying.
I went back to re-read the post you pointed out. OP of the thread wants to block all the open wifi hotspots with paywall. It is not because he/she used one paywall network work in location A and doesn't want to use it again in location B. OP never used the paywall network (because it charges) and doesn't want to ever connect to it again, in that case, delete it from the saved network list should solve the problem.
In fact, Op also wants to use non-paywall open wifi, which is same as what I want here with G4. We both have the same need, which is auto re-connect to known, used, and trusted network. Here is exactly G4 cannot do and clearly having a problem. As I said before, even for network that is open, no paywall, and no log in required, G4 simply cannot auto connect, and claim "internet is unavailable", which is false and need to be fixed. Furthermore, even if there is a captive login, G4 should not refuse to auto connect before informing user so. While LG clearly has no problem sending tons of notification for their bloated LG smart notices, right now there is no single notice about WiFi auto connect failure, you will only discover the problem after you open WiFI set up page.
I copied OP's own words from the other thread FYI
"here are random open wifi networks everywhere that allow my Android to connect to their network but won't give internet access because there is a paywall"
"There are a wide variety of providers like BTOpenZone. I'd like to block them all, adding exceptions if I ever find a non-paywall connection"
One Twelve said:
see this is where it gets tricky, that post was referring to networks set up by a telco around the city. the ssid is the same its not a random network. This is exactly what you want.
you accepted it when you were in location a, now you are at location b and want to connect. so it should connect automatically ie no different than if you were to return back to location a.
You said home wifi works, so leaving wifi on, walk out of range and then come back in range and it connects automatically. And you expect the same behaviour with an open wifi that you accepted prior.
Way i understood it is that guy is complaining about what you want with open wifi
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How to turn off auto connect to WiFi??

My phone is always connecting to WiFi connections automatically (as they come in range).
I don't want it to. I only want it to automatically connect to the ones which I specify (my home, my office...).
How can I configure to only connect to the networks which I specify?
raphilevine said:
My phone is always connecting to WiFi connections automatically (as they come in range).
I don't want it to. I only want it to automatically connect to the ones which I specify (my home, my office...).
How can I configure to only connect to the networks which I specify?
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you know, i don't have that behavior, my phone only connects to networks it remembered.
In the list of available wifi networks the remembered ones are at the bottom. If I hold down and select 'forget network' then they go away.
easy rhino said:
you know, i don't have that behavior, my phone only connects to networks it remembered.
In the list of available wifi networks the remembered ones are at the bottom. If I hold down and select 'forget network' then they go away.
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My list of available wifi shows maybe about 100 or more entries. How can I delete them all?
I have Cricket wireless service. I had initially installed a cricket app for managing wifi and I believe it may have added all of those wifi connections. I wonder if this has somehow messed up my phone. I have since deleted the app, but the problem still persists. :crying:
Well I guess deleting one at a time would work eventually
easy rhino said:
Well I guess deleting one at a time would work eventually
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That clearly is not a realistic option as it would take me a very long time to delete that list. I also don't believe that it will fix the problem. Every time I pass a WiFi network it will just get added to the list again.
Just the other day, I was sitting on a bus and we were driving alongside another bus which offered WiFi to its passengers. My phone automatically tried connecting to the other bus's WiFi.
Does anyone know how to configure this, so that I only automatically connect to the WiFi networks that I specify? This is making using my phone with this version of Cyanogenmod very frustrating.

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