Hey, guys.. I'm a complete noob at the whole rooting procedure and just decided to jump on the bandwagon. I have come to realize that as of now you can't root 2.2 until someone figures it out. Other then that, I just have some basic questions... so, once you root your phone you can download "roms" on to your phone to use. What exactly are "roms" though? The main reason I want to root is so that I can get the REVOLUTION theme on to my phone...
Just want some questions answered so I understand what exactly I am doing. I find this stuff really interesting anyways, so I would love to learn what I am missing out on!
Thanks in advance.
ROMs are complete operating systems. They're rebuilt, repackaged, or otherwise tweaked versions of Froyo, Eclair, with or without Sense, etc.
Themes are just layers on top of existing apps and program elements.
But both require root.
saqibaz said:
Hey, guys.. I'm a complete noob at the whole rooting procedure and just decided to jump on the bandwagon. I have come to realize that as of now you can't root 2.2 until someone figures it out. Other then that, I just have some basic questions... so, once you root your phone you can download "roms" on to your phone to use. What exactly are "roms" though? The main reason I want to root is so that I can get the REVOLUTION theme on to my phone...
Just want some questions answered so I understand what exactly I am doing. I find this stuff really interesting anyways, so I would love to learn what I am missing out on!
Thanks in advance.
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Head over to the development section, there are guides in place that can answer those questions for you (you will have more lol). Make SURE you follow the one for full nand unlock. Just spent 5 frustrating hours trying to flash rom because I thought I was unlocked but wasn't. Do yourself a favor and read those guides!
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Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers
watchinthewheels said:
Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers
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If you follow crackwhores guide, you cant go wrong. You wont be sorry if you flash a cooked rom. Flash NRG28's latest Rom, or one of Dutty's or Miri's, just check out the Rom Development Forum and see which one takes your fancy. I have found NRG28's to be best for me, but they all have something to offer, for me, the biggest benefit is the difference in speed, i couldnt believe how much faster my HD was the first time I flashed it. If you get stuck with anything, just ask and someone will be able to help.
watchinthewheels said:
Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers
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1. No, there is no NEED to. But a non-exhaustive list of benefits include updated applications, faster response times, less bugs, etc.
2. If you go to the settings tab in TouchFlo and look down at the About section, it tells you what Manila version you have.
3. Most flashing issues are completely recoverable these days. However, there is always that miniscule chance that you muck up your device completely . However, if you follow my guide you really can't go wrong.
4. There are some tutorials on skinning and Manila modding in this forum. I would suggest reading through them!
thanks guys, that's put my mind at rest a bit! Time to get flashing
Ok, ok, ok.. So many of you are instantly going to jump on the new guy because this thread has probably been posted at least a million times today. Thing is, trying to find an explanation, an easy explanation, of how to root my HTC Hero G3, without using developers lingo is nigh on impossible. Would someone have mercy and please, for the sake of the Gods and my sanity.. HELP ME ROOT ME BLOODY PHONE??? Please
What do I need to download?
Can I still use the android operatin system after gaining root access or do I have to install a custom ROM?
Many many thanks in advance for any help or advice given.
Sam
InquisitorMMA said:
Ok, ok, ok.. So many of you are instantly going to jump on the new guy because this thread has probably been posted at least a million times today. Thing is, trying to find an explanation, an easy explanation, of how to root my HTC Hero G3, without using developers lingo is nigh on impossible. Would someone have mercy and please, for the sake of the Gods and my sanity.. HELP ME ROOT ME BLOODY PHONE??? Please
What do I need to download?
Can I still use the android operatin system after gaining root access or do I have to install a custom ROM?
Many many thanks in advance for any help or advice given.
Sam
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Firstly its called the HTC Hero, the G2 is the T-Mobile branding not G3, why don't you go in the Hero section then the rom development sub forum, guides at the top in the wiki in plain english...
Advice appreciated man, I kinda thought I'd get someone telling me that. Thing is, I tried all three of the rooting guides up there and none of them work. Checked the USB Debugging box.. then windows searches for ADB, then my problems begin.
Hi guys,
I just got my Desire and I am interested in rooting it. I would appreciate if someone briefly can tell me what the advantages/disadvantages of rooting.
Also, where do I start with the rooting process?
Thanks so much in advance
Dodolom said:
Hi guys,
I just got my Desire and I am interested in rooting it. I would appreciate if someone briefly can tell me what the advantages/disadvantages of rooting.
Also, where do I start with the rooting process?
Thanks so much in advance
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@Dodolom - welcome
Best place to start reading about the rooting process is in the sticky at the top of this thread. Lots of information by many smart guys, so take your time and read through the lot before doing anything.
Why root? Well by rooting you can install custom ROMs which contain new software or customisations and programs outside of the stuff that HTC chooses to provide in their stock ROMs.
Good luck.
And just a word of advice - have a good read of all the stuff in the forum before asking questions. Will most certainly reduce the risk of you getting flamed
thanks mate.
Also, just run the phone as it is - you may find it does what you want it to do out the box - rooting is only neccessary if something you wish to do isn't available without rooting...
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@dodolom - welcome
best place to start reading about the rooting process is in the sticky at the top of this thread. Lots of information by many smart guys, so take your time and read through the lot before doing anything.
Why root? Well by rooting you can install custom roms which contain new software or customisations and programs outside of the stuff that htc chooses to provide in their stock roms.
Good luck.
And just a word of advice - have a good read of all the stuff in the forum before asking questions. Will most certainly reduce the risk of you getting flamed
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flame flame flame flame :d
At the moment, I wouldn't say it's very advantageous to root your desire. I rooted my G1 back in the day (only a year or so ago I know ) - but with the Desire, the rooting process still leaves part of the OS locked down, which means you still don't get full control over it.
The only advantage I could see at the moment for rooting the desire would be to get Apps 2 SD. However this is rumoured to be a new feature in Android 2.2 (Froyo) which is due for release within the next month or 2 for Desires. So rather than void your warranty and risk bricking your phone. It might be better to wait for 2.2 and see what you get with that!
i have no idea why everyne doesnt root the desire when they get it... goto modaco.com goto the desire section and follow the r6 riskfree root process and now ou will have a world class phone that you can install app2sd , app2sd+ or app2sd++ nt to mention all the custom roms... good luck
What's the difference between app2sd, app2sd+ and app2sd++ ???
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Hi People,
I have only just found out that you can change the ROM's and all sorts of thing with My HTC Desire.
I have had my phone for 2 weeks, I'm on Virgin Mobile and don't have a clue.
I was talking to a guy at work who has one and he told me about you guys.
I have had a look around but can't see anything for the noob...lol (ME!!!).
I was wondering is anyone could give me some advice on where to start, What to look out for and any general advice on what to do and what not to do?
Any Help would be much appreciated.
Many Thanks
BG Macster (Mark)
First thing is to ask yourself why you want to change the ROM on the unit. Are you running out of space or are you just the type who likes to have more control?
I didn't root for months as the phon, out the box, does exactly what I want it to do. The only reason I've rooted now is to run the HD ROM but otherwise I'd stay stock.
You're going to get people reply with 'root it now, don't ever think of going stock, bla bla bla' but it's an individual thing, as is the choice of ROM. Read up on the stickied threads in the various forums and use the search button a LOT!
BG Macster said:
Hi People,
I have only just found out that you can change the ROM's and all sorts of thing with My HTC Desire.
I have had my phone for 2 weeks, I'm on Virgin Mobile and don't have a clue.
I was talking to a guy at work who has one and he told me about you guys.
I have had a look around but can't see anything for the noob...lol (ME!!!).
I was wondering is anyone could give me some advice on where to start, What to look out for and any general advice on what to do and what not to do?
Any Help would be much appreciated.
Many Thanks
BG Macster (Mark)
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Welcome Mark.
EddyOS has provided you some excellent advice - don't rush into anything.
Mostly people do this as a kind of 'hobby' (including me) and you can end up with some cool stuff on your phone that HTC never intended you to have or have much later on. On the flip side, you can also wreck your phone too through doing the wrong thing or just plain bad luck. HTC can be a bit difficult in fixing stuff under warranty if you've been mucking about with your device, so be warned.
Everything you need to know about rooting and flashing (conjures up interesting images doesn't it?) is contained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
So read up, lurk about a bit in the forums and if you think you need to - have a go.
Good luck!
Thanks Guys Some sound advice there i will look around before i do a thing.
Many Thanks
First thing I would do, though, is check the ROM currently running on your Desire and get the RUU* file in case you ever need to go back to stock after rooting. To check, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the software version.
You can then go to this site and see if the version you're on at present is available. If it is, download it:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
*RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility, official package from HTC to install a ROM
Hey everyone
im a new user on android, the thing is that i bought my new htc desire a day ago, and i found out that it doesnt support arabic, it only shows font but not complete words... i heard that there has been found a solution but on rooted phones, my phone version is 2.2,
i would really like to be guided through this, and for instance what is rooting the phone and CM7 and CM6, i also tried searching and i found cyanogen; the website; a good source if i decided to hack my phone to support arabic,
i also would like to know if i can return my phone to factory settings if i decide to after i hack it ? and how can i backup ?
Do you think that if i install cyanogen would be better than the platform that comes with the phone from htc ?
i also knew that ps1 games and others can work on my phone and it has to do with emulators... which is the best emulator and where to download the games from ?
and any other information u might add that might help me would be great
thanks alot in advance
and sorry, i know the questions are too much
ie : u dont need to answer all questions hehe, any helpful answer to any question would be great
my apprectiations to all of u
Hi
Read and Follow this for a complete guide on how to root to flashing, its pretty simple and this guide will help you a lot and it has videos too to make it more simpler to understand.
If you want to ROOT the guide is here: ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084, or you can follow the steps here: ht tp://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/300866-guide-rooting-unrevoked-windows-updated-20th-may-2011-a.html. This is the tutorial I used to ROOT, and everything worked perfect.
Also before you ROOT be sure to make a Gold Card.
Instructions and download: h t tp://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/
You can go back to your original STOCK ROM with and original RUU, which you can download from here: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
Be sure to check your version with the one you download. From Phone go to Settings->About Phone->Software Information and check Baseband Version and Software number.
After you ROOT you can also make a back-up from ClockWorckMod Recovery, which is automatically installed when you ROOT. Also a good back-up application is Titanium Back-up (back-up app, settings etc.).
To run PS1 games you can get FPse app from market.
TO GET THE GAMES IF FORBIDDEN IF YOU DON'T OWN THEM!!!!
Hope this helps you. If you have any more questions post them here.
a great thanks to aamir007 and UsManyDead
but i didnt get wut u mean concerning the games, i downloaded the nintendo emulator and the ps1 as well, after that wut do i do ? do i download the games from the market or from some blogs or wut ???
concerning the root i will do it in a couple of days insha'alla and i will post my questions here if i face any problems, thanks alot mates
and do u personally advice rooting the phone, and is it better than the platform that comes with the phone ? wut do i gain from rooting my phone, for example do i get better performance and such things ?
sorry my questions might look weird but im new user
Hello.
What I meant about games is that you can't ask warez questions here. If you have the apk for android then all you need to do is get the image of the game. This one only you know how and where to get it. GOOGLE.
I think it is good to ROOT your phone since after you root you have a lot more options of what to do with your phone.
To find out what you exactly get after ROOT-ing please read the whole FAQ from here, it explains most of your questions (that you might have): ht tp://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/221212-faq-rooting-updated-2nd-june-2011-a.html
Depends on your needs.
You are currently asking the same questions I asked myself many months ago. Basically, it will all depend on what you want to do with your phone. If it will just be a phone, then there's no need to root it. On the other hand, if you plan to change every single aspect of how your phone looks or behaves, then rooting and "S-OFFing" should be done to it.
Just be prepared for headaches that you might experience. I know there are guides throughout this forum. But not everything will go smoothly. If you do decide to install another ROM, start with a well-tested and stable firmware, then experiment with bleeding-edge ROMs once you become more familiar with troubleshooting.
One more thing: enjoy the adventure! You will love it!
thanks alot guys i really appreciate ur help
honestly co_dominic, im starting to have a headache hehe ! thought it looks quite good
i actually entered to the stock rom ruu website u gave me but i didnt know wut link i should download.. how do i know ??