My phone shows 370Mb Total, 198Mb Free. Not the 512Mb as promised.
I don't get it. Is some of this RAM blocked off and dedicated to some obscure backgrounded processes?
How much RAM do you guys have?
reserved for system
I read around a bit. So does the GPU share in the 512? How come my G1 showed the full advertised 192Mb and this does not?
funkeee said:
I read around a bit. So does the GPU share in the 512? How come my G1 showed the full advertised 192Mb and this does not?
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Yes, the GPU (and the radio) shares in the 512MB. That's normal.
believe the radio/gpu are using 128mb or close to that
larryccf said:
believe the radio/gpu are using 128mb or close to that
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Is this configurable? Some users might want to be able to switch between two profiles: Gamin/Business
funkeee said:
I read around a bit. So does the GPU share in the 512? How come my G1 showed the full advertised 192Mb and this does not?
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different cpu/gpu combo.
thats y the g2 has better graphics.
No bigger tho you wont have a problem with it
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I was wondering if we can expect a ramhack in the future or if it looks like it will never happen.
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That would be awesome. I too am intrigued by this.
is a ram hack even necessary? it certainly was with my G1 but this phone has much more ram that anything we might be able to free would be irrelevant
Ramhack?
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Powers88 said:
is a ram hack even necessary? it certainly was with my G1 but this phone has much more ram that anything we might be able to free would be irrelevant
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For me, it's not even a matter of if it's necessary, but can it be done?
Where there's a will there's a way
More is better my old nexus got 400 MB usable via ramhacks, on less optimal conditions I miss those few bytes.
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Also interested in this. Anything to increase performance, Im all for it.
Definately worth looking in to.
Powers88 said:
is a ram hack even necessary? it certainly was with my G1 but this phone has much more ram that anything we might be able to free would be irrelevant
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I'm with you. The reason I sold my mt3g and picked up the mt4g was mainly for the extra ram. The G2 has plenty, I don't really see the need.
If I recall correctly the extra ram came at the expense of graphics and 3d. Hardly a worthwhile trade off for a device that already has plenty of ram.
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I'm with you. The reason I sold my mt3g and picked up the mt4g was mainly for the extra ram. The G2 has plenty, I don't really see the need.
If I recall correctly the extra ram came at the expense of graphics and 3d. Hardly a worthwhile trade off for a device that already has plenty of ram.
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Ya they had that ram hack and they had the one that was with the new radio which just allowed for 14 more megs to be freed without losing anything
Powers88 said:
Ya they had that ram hack and they had the one that was with the new radio which just allowed for 14 more megs to be freed without losing anything
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The new radio is different than the old ram hack.
If I'm wrong about this, someone please correct me.
The ram hack "stole" memory from gpu. (graphics)
The new radio/spl mapped memory that was previously unavailable in its entirety and gave us access to it.
Does that make more sense? The first is a hack/mod done by the devs here and the second is an upgrade from HTC/T-mobile.
Phateless said:
The new radio is different than the old ram hack.
If I'm wrong about this, someone please correct me.
The ram hack "stole" memory from gpu. (graphics)
The new radio/spl mapped memory that was previously unavailable in its entirety and gave us access to it.
Does that make more sense? The first is a hack/mod done by the devs here and the second is an upgrade from HTC/T-mobile.
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Your right, I already knew what it was I just didnt explain it
The nexus was able to increase the ram by repartitioning its usage. Why can't we? Does anybody have a partition map saying how much ram goes to every reasource? I know 371 is not the max we can pull out.
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If I'm not mistaken I believe I saw something about memory partitions in the wiki.
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i have started my own and read every topic about why we could not see all the ram as user available (329 instead of 512) .. first i compared galaxy s with tab but it turned out tab has 640 Mb of real memory in total.. but i also have seen it was possible to add more memory about 40 Mb to the user available ram .. and i also learned there is also a part which is not used and called "blackhole" approximitely another 40 Mb..
so i believe it is possible to make some adjustments to improve the weakest (according to me) part of our galaxy s.. would some devs please mind trying this for us and share it?
We don't need the RAM (yet)
There are a lot of developers who try to get more out of our SGS's. For instance Juwe/ GingerReal increases the RAM to around 340MB.
Appearently Google thinks we don't need the full potential RAM and that's why they made it with a default of 300-330MB. Still still most developers agree on XDA that we should be able to acces the other 160MB because it doesn't do anything.
Until then we'll just have to wait.
even 340 Mb instead of 329 makes a difference .. i cant think what would happen with 380 or 400 or maybe even more..
because as far as i understood from what i have read; 128 memory is reserved for some drivers and capturing video is taking most of it.. i am taking a video maybe once in 2 monts.. but i am using my widgets, apps, playing my games everyday.. so if was asked to choose i would love to have that memory reserved for video taking..
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First of all, the amount of RAM is NOT related to the ROM....
The kernel makes the difference...
In general the max amount of RAM in Gingerbread is 340MB, cuz if we go over the phone will become unstable and we'll break some functions like 720p recording....
In Froyo we used to reach max of 350MB without issues
just curiosity;
galaxy s2 and galaxy s has the same rams with different amounts.. what would happen if we soldered the 1gb ram to galaxy s? would it recognize it without any software tuning? or would we just kill the phone completely? or would still see 329 ?
simone201 said:
First of all, the amount of RAM is NOT related to the ROM....
The kernel makes the difference...
In general the max amount of RAM in Gingerbread is 340MB, cuz if we go over the phone will become unstable and we'll break some functions like 720p recording....
In Froyo we used to reach max of 350MB without issues
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so is it possible to disable video recording completely and having lots of more Mb?
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just curiosity;
galaxy s2 and galaxy s has the same rams with different amounts.. what would happen if we soldered the 1gb ram to galaxy s? would it recognize it without any software tuning? or would we just kill the phone completely? or would still see 329 ?
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Do you want to instert 1GB ram into our SGS? I dunno sincerely what will happen.....
_delice_doluca_ said:
so is it possible to disable video recording completely and having lots of more Mb?
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Probably yes, i am not a kernel expert, i am only a rom cooker/recognised developer, so my knowledge on kernels is very basic....
Maybe you'd better directly ask to a kernel dev like hardcore, nikademus, chainfire....
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Do you want to instert 1GB ram into our SGS? I dunno sincerely what will happen.....
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i would really want that but i am sure its not as easy as soldering the gps antenna.. i have read about a HTC device getting a memory upgrade to 128Mb from 64 in xda forum.. so technically there is no impossible but i wonder what else need to be done after soldering the ram? software adjustments (kernel maybe?), or any more hardware changes ?
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Probably yes, i am not a kernel expert, i am only a rom cooker/recognised developer, so my knowledge on kernels is very basic....
Maybe you'd better directly ask to a kernel dev like hardcore, nikademus, chainfire....
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thanks for tip, i will ask them..
i am really feeling bad about this ram issue.. every web page is showing nexus, galaxy s, galaxy tab have 512 Mb of ram.. but the memory dedicated for users is far less than the other 2 phones in galaxy s ... so it bothers me.. is there anyone who returns their phones to samsung and gets the money back?
first i believed somehow it was possible to use most of the ram with some software adjustement but then i realised even quadrant shows the total amount of ram memory is only 384 mb (and there is a part which is not used at all) ..
Hi guys
Quick question, i see that specs show the nexus has 1gb of ram.
But my ,"system apps," so it only has 632mb can any one explain?
Thanks
I think that some of the ram is reserved for the gpu. That's why you see less ram.
Just wanted to make sure
Still thou 400mb on gpu?
Tiggerbits said:
Just wanted to make sure
Still thou 400mb on gpu?
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I was in looking at the Rezound and did a hard boot and checked available memory. It only had 250Mb of the 1 G available. The rest must have been taken by Android, Sense and whatever bloat Verizon is loading.
Have a quick look at my screen shot - ( if they work)
I beleive that is should be 1GB of Ram, i understand if some is used for system processes. but 400mb.... far to high i would think.
Any one care to explain?
Some is reserved for the OS to function at all times. Some of it is reserved for the GPU, and radio to use. It is done this way to ensure you have the maximum needed for these to run.
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Tidbits said:
Some is reserved for the OS to function at all times. Some of it is reserved for the GPU, and radio to use. It is done this way to ensure you have the maximum needed for these to run.
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That makes sense.
Nothing is reserved for the O/S, that uses whatever is available. It's probably for the GPU, same as the Nexus S has 512MB, but only 384MB available due to the GPU being allocated 128MB.
How come GSM Arena tells that the Desire has 576 mb ram, but, on any rom, it shows only 404 mb?
Is there any way to fix this?
I have seen some post with the hypothesis that a large piece of ram is allocated to the Android system, but I don't think that's true, because I can only achieve max 300 mb free ram, and the rest has to be busy with something...
don't know why it shows reduced either, but it doesnt really need 'fixing'.
assume that software developers generally know more than most of us here...
this might be an interesting read.
my recommendation is not to worry...check how your rom actually feels in day to day use. not how much free or total RAM you have or think you need, or what a benchmark score says...
eddiehk6 said:
don't know why it shows reduced either, but it doesnt really need 'fixing'.
assume that software developers generally know more than most of us here...
this might be an interesting read.
my recommendation is not to worry...check how your rom actually feels in day to day use. not how much free or total RAM you have or think you need, or what a benchmark score says...
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My rom works like a charm (Mildwild Oxygen), buy I was just asking out of curiosity. I know all the ram theory, and how i shouldn't care, but did HTC sell us lies?
DigginGraves said:
My rom works like a charm (Mildwild Oxygen), buy I was just asking out of curiosity. I know all the ram theory, and how i shouldn't care, but did HTC sell us lies?
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They didn't lie.
Actual ram size is less when in use. A bit like how a micro SD is less when formatted.
Plus part is dedicated to the GPU (graphics)
So yeah probably about right
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Graphics make sense... thanks!
Hi, I got my Amazon phone about a week ago... been playing around with it and recently seen some issues...I used cpu-z and antutu to look at the device and check versus the specs and it states the RAM on my phone is 1690MB? What happen to the 2GB of RAM that's stated by the specs. Can someone please explain? Thank you.
The OS?
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The OS?
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This is stating the total RAM, not what is being used. Wish I knew how to do screen capture of my cellphone...like print screen in windows. I'm sure the OS and other things are running from RAM, but these programs should state it. Can you or someone install cpu-z or antutu and see how much ram they have? I really appreciate it. Thanks
frekey22 said:
This is stating the total RAM, not what is being used. Wish I knew how to do screen capture of my cellphone...like print screen in windows. I'm sure the OS and other things are running from RAM, but these programs should state it. Can you or someone install cpu-z or antutu and see how much ram they have? I really appreciate it. Thanks
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I just ran CPU-Z, says 1690MB RAM as well. Antutu too.
snapplefish said:
I just ran CPU-Z, says 1690MB RAM as well. Antutu too.
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Thank you for letting me know snapplefish! Curious why this is? I wonder if the RAM is set up as ramdisk and set to unknown format that these android apps can't read...can't imagine Amazon would be wrong about their 2GB of ram specs...but who knows... that's why I wanted to ask the forum members.
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frekey22 said:
Thank you for letting me know snapplefish! Curious why this is? I wonder if the RAM is set up as ramdisk and set to unknown format that these android apps can't read...can't imagine Amazon would be wrong about their 2GB of ram specs...but who knows... that's why I wanted to ask the forum members.
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Same thing on my end.
ZRam
The OS takes up some ram, this is permanent and cannot be used by any other apps. More over, the GPU also use ram.that's why we only have about 1700mb of memory left.
Hope that helps!
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