Any known fix to this annoying issue yet? If you type a message that's longer than 3 sms:es it automatically converts the message into a mms message. Normally I wouldn't care about a "small" issue like this, it's just that I have free sms and I pay for mms messages.
Google said this have been fixed in Froyo, and yes it seems they're absolutely right since the problem is gone on the Nexus one & most other phones running 2.2.
But nothing have changed on the Desire, the problem is still there... Sometimes I wonder if the Desire is running an eclair/froyo hybrid and that HTC have just manipulated the numbers in the "about" screen.
Sigh...
I can type upto 5 sms before it convert into mms.. stock Froyo here
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Download Handcent.
I'm not saying you should switch to it completely (I wont, Stock SMS looks so much better) but you'll benefit from:
- Pattern/Pin lock for SMS messages (even for Stock SMS Program)
- For the rare occasions you're sending a long message, cut from stock SMS, paste into handcent and it shouldn't convert to MMS.
brummiesteven said:
Download Handcent.
I'm not saying you should switch to it completely (I wont, Stock SMS looks so much better) but you'll benefit from:
- Pattern/Pin lock for SMS messages (even for Stock SMS Program)
- For the rare occasions you're sending a long message, cut from stock SMS, paste into handcent and it shouldn't convert to MMS.
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I know it's good and have lots of features, I've tried handcent before but I agree stock HTC SMS app looks so much better so I uninstalled it after a few days. But I might give your suggestion a try, thanks
handcent actually have a setting not to auto convert sms to mms...
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its 5 here as well, it is meant to reduce expenses, because (here at least) if you set six messages it will cost more than one mms, hence the converting.
is it related to the sim card and the network preferences? maybe, but if it is than it should detect if you have free SMS and not convert.
either ways i think you should have an option to turn it on/off.
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irkan said:
its 5 here as well, it is meant to reduce expenses, because (here at least) if you set six messages it will cost more than one mms, hence the converting.
is it related to the sim card and the network preferences? maybe, but if it is than it should detect if you have free SMS and not convert.
either ways i think you should have an option to turn it on/off.
worth mentioning in android issues
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I have an sms-flat --> mms more expensive. But all in all not a too bad idea if you pay for every single sms...
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Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile
You need to speak to tmobile.
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.
if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
Raminder1992 said:
it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!
is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?
This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.
ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast
using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms
Guys, about 90% of the time when i send a text message, of any size, to anyone, i get a 'message can not be sent' notification and the phone vibrates, this happens about 2-7 times before the text message is sent, and for each time it tries to send the text again, this amount is send to the recipient, for example if it retries 7 times i will send the message 7 times - very annoying
when using the froyo rom from both paul and richardtrip i did not have this issue, although i am almost certain this was due to the stock messaging app, i even tried using handcent on the froyo which i used on the stock and on the froyo it worked perfectly too, but handcent will not work on the stock rom.
so it seems to me that it is an issue with either the stock (sense based) rom or the htc messaging app
im on tmobile UK on a branded phone, this happens on any radio, both rooted and unrooted
does anyone have any advice, or know of a way to replace the htc messaging app with the stock android messaging app?
if i could get this sorted id be very happy, so i appreciate any help
thanks in advance
I've had this issue happen a couple of times aswell, not sure how to replicate it, it seems totally random, but i haven't seen a 90% change of getting it!
try a new radio lol
This happens to me if I use any messaging system other than the default one (e.g. handcent or chomp) and the signal changes whilst sending the message (i.e. H to 3G or E to G etc. etc.)
I am still using the default rom with the latest update as I am waiting for 2.2 before rooting
turn off GRPS/EDGE/ 3G Data
cgrec92 said:
Guys, about 90% of the time when i send a text message, of any size, to anyone, i get a 'message can not be sent' notification and the phone vibrates, this happens about 2-7 times before the text message is sent, and for each time it tries to send the text again, this amount is send to the recipient, for example if it retries 7 times i will send the message 7 times - very annoying
when using the froyo rom from both paul and richardtrip i did not have this issue, although i am almost certain this was due to the stock messaging app, i even tried using handcent on the froyo which i used on the stock and on the froyo it worked perfectly too, but handcent will not work on the stock rom.
so it seems to me that it is an issue with either the stock (sense based) rom or the htc messaging app
im on tmobile UK on a branded phone, this happens on any radio, both rooted and unrooted
does anyone have any advice, or know of a way to replace the htc messaging app with the stock android messaging app?
if i could get this sorted id be very happy, so i appreciate any help
thanks in advance
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Had exactly the same problem on stock/sense based verions of romms. NEver had an issue on stock android messaging app, only with the sense one. Think it must be a bug with that app. I'm T-mo in UK to but have an unbranded phone.
dont resend it, just wait until the message is sent, the phone resends automatically, because if you click the resend, it will send another message. what i do is when i get that error message i just wait.
I'm getting this problem on my o2-uk Desire; they are sending me a replacement handset
ugmeme123 said:
dont resend it, just wait until the message is sent, the phone resends automatically, because if you click the resend, it will send another message. what i do is when i get that error message i just wait.
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Thanks everyone for your replies
So it is confirmed that it is an issue with the HTC messaging app but not with the stock android messaging app, and no messaging clients can fix this as they use the default messaging app.
Is there anyway to change the HTC messaging app with the stock android? I prefer it anyway it works much better, the official froyo release will also contain the stock messaging app which I guess will have the same problem.
I will try flashing a different radio
Setting the phone to WCDMA only does not fix the issue
I am having this problem, and also another which I feel might be related, it tries to resend the message, and it eventually goes. I have also noticed that quite a number of times when I try to make a call, it doesnt dial, it just goes silent and returns to the call register screen. Maybe both related to a siganl problem . Somebody suggested switching off Edge or whatever, but thats not really a fix, and why should you have to do this to send a text. ?
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I am having this problem, and also another which I feel might be related, it tries to resend the message, and it eventually goes. I have also noticed that quite a number of times when I try to make a call, it doesnt dial, it just goes silent and returns to the call register screen. Maybe both related to a siganl problem . Somebody suggested switching off Edge or whatever, but thats not really a fix, and why should you have to do this to send a text. ?
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I agree, and I also experience the same problem, sometimes during a phone call the most strange sounds happen and then the call cuts out, I'm guessing is interference. Problems with calls, text messages, and the connection repeatedly drops when using the mobile internet, exactly the same problems as the hd2, they will not get fixed by HTC, speaking from experience.. very basic requirements of a phone still not being met
I have the exact same issue with both texts and calls that seem to take ages to connect and then just dump me back to the dialer. I've put it down to O2 being so awful but of people have the same issues on other networks id love to know
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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Same here. I did the resending thing for a while, but now I just ignore those error notifications. The text messages arrive anyway
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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same. I get it 10% of the time. On a unlocked Desire with a UK T-Mobile contract. just leave it to send a couple times, put your desire on a window sill and it should be okay.
but i think the message is not automatically sent if you lock the phone. can anyone confirm this? my unsent message was still not sent when i locked my phone.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, i used to get this issue all of the time when using handcent or chomp. However, since doing the following i've not had it happen once in 2 weeks (where it would happen 10+ times a day before)
1) uninstall any messaging software you have downloaded from the market
2) download sms unread count and sms popup from the market
3) put the sms unread count widget on the homescreen
4) configure sms popup to your liking
5) send messages to your heart's content
This uses the default 'messages' app rather than anything else and works perfectly
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As mentioned earlier in this thread, i used to get this issue all of the time when using handcent or chomp. However, since doing the following i've not had it happen once in 2 weeks (where it would happen 10+ times a day before)
1) uninstall any messaging software you have downloaded from the market
2) download sms unread count and sms popup from the market
3) put the sms unread count widget on the homescreen
4) configure sms popup to your liking
5) send messages to your heart's content
This uses the default 'messages' app rather than anything else and works perfectly
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Thanks very much for your reply
I will try this right now
i also have the problem with the unsent messages and undialled calls, tmo uk contract phone.
Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
Waqas said:
Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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uhm.
why would a long sms convert to a mms?
I've never seen this happen.
Have no idea why this happens. if i use "MyPhoneExplorer" to compose sms on pc and send them, this problem doesn't occur. tonight, i decided to send a long sms directly from my phone and i saw that it converts to mms. so decided to google it and it appears Xplay isn't the only phone with this problem. a quick browse on google shows that loads of device owners are frustrated by this. check it out on your stock device as mine is stock also. just bootloader unlocked and rooted ;-)
Yea, mine does the same, bootloader locked, and does it un-rooted and rooted.
Very annoying. You'd think sony ericsson would have made this an option.
But i did have this issue with 2.1 on my motorola milestone.
mine just gives me a notification saying it will send 2 SMS, it even counts down hoow many characters i have left until it adds another SMS to it (only when below 20 character left)
AriStar said:
mine just gives me a notification saying it will send 2 SMS, it even counts down hoow many characters i have left until it adds another SMS to it (only when below 20 character left)
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Its after lyk 4 or 5 sms's it turns it into a mms, i can confirm every android phone i have had (hero, desire, desire hd and xplay) have all done this, i resorted to sending half an sms then writing the other half n sending that lol
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I just tested mine to 5 sms. All it does it countdown how many characters I have left for each sms, and then adds another sms.
Converting into an mms sounds like a cheap trick to make more money by some carriers.
I am with Vodafone Uk and they don't use this trick yet it seems, although thanks for this post because now I will be keeping an eye out for this.
Still don't see it as much of a problem though. Just send one sms at a time?
Happens often here (when going into 4th txt), I just break messages down not to get stung with a MMS charge.
It can be annoying as when breaking the message down you can get a reply from the other side before they have read the full message, which can cause confusion.
Laird_Attwood said:
Happens often here (when going into 4th txt), I just break messages down not to get stung with a MMS charge.
It can be annoying as when breaking the message down you can get a reply from the other side before they have read the full message, which can cause confusion.
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We are both from the uk it seems.
I'm with vodafone and running 2.3.2 still.
Who are you with?
dsswoosh said:
I just tested mine to 5 sms. All it does it countdown how many characters I have left for each sms, and then adds another sms.
Converting into an mms sounds like a cheap trick to make more money by some carriers.
I am with Vodafone Uk and they don't use this trick yet it seems, although thanks for this post because now I will be keeping an eye out for this.
Still don't see it as much of a problem though. Just send one sms at a time?
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Try expressing your feelings to your GF one message at a time...
Have you tried writing the whole message, copy/cutting half of it, sending half then quickly pasting and sending the rest? Or email/call the person lol? It might just be me but my texts are pretty small.
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Try expressing your feelings to your GF one message at a time...
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"Taking you shopping, get some new shoes. I love you."
Seems to fit all into 1 text to me.
This post is not for advice on how to limit my sms size. Rather its to try come up with a solution to this problem
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This post is not for advice on how to limit my sms size. Rather its to try come up with a solution to this problem
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Well the solution is to go with a network provider that doesn't adopt this cheap tactic.
Alternatively, telephone them and threaten legal action with demand for all lost money sent on mms.
Changing an sms into an mms can not possibly be legal.
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We are both from the uk it seems.
I'm with vodafone and running 2.3.2 still.
Who are you with?
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SIM free device on 2.3.3
dsswoosh said:
Well the solution is to go with a network provider that doesn't adopt this cheap tactic.
Alternatively, telephone them and threaten legal action with demand for all lost money sent on mms.
Changing an sms into an mms can not possibly be legal.
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It's not something the network controls, its a Android thing.
I guess it make sense to people in the states and how most contracts work over there.
It is annoying though.
Laird_Attwood said:
It's not something the network controls, its a Android thing.
I guess it make sense to people in the states and how most contracts work over there.
It is annoying though.
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Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
Waqas said:
Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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Your welcome for the camera XD It can now be found if you click the little android market logo at the top of the xperia play game menu when you slide the keypad out.
Back on-topic, I just successfully send a 6 sms long message, on 2.3.2 and with Three
dsswoosh said:
Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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Ok just to make a few things clear. I noticed this problem on my Xplay which has a stock rom 2.3.2 and i got it sim-free. i have tried it with several different vendors, like vodafone UK, 3, O2 and international vendors in Pakistan as well. Also, i've tried composing a message with no sim in it and still have the same problem. So its a problem with the OS and not network related. Saw the same problem on a stock Galaxy S Sim-free.
So Devs, please find a solution to this if possible.
dsswoosh said:
Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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how can it be network providers?
I got my handset SIM free (generic UK rom) and have used a few networks. it does it on all of them. and reports of it being the same on other Android devices.
It is nothing to do with networks, it Android OS.
Hi all, Just recently picked up the G3 after Trading in my HTC One M8. I'm having issues sending and receiving MMS while my wifi is on when using Evolve SMS. I know that Textra has a work around built in where it turns off Wifi To send the MMS over Data but I don't really care for the look of Textra. I'm not sure if maybe my settings are off with Evolve as when I had my M8 it would send and receive with no problem. Anyone else having issues with this or know of any other 3rd party MMS apps that have the work aroudn built in like Textra?
Thanks,
Believe it or not every phone is different. Download and test. What works for me hasn't worked for others
EggNogg421 said:
Hi all, Just recently picked up the G3 after Trading in my HTC One M8. I'm having issues sending and receiving MMS while my wifi is on when using Evolve SMS. I know that Textra has a work around built in where it turns off Wifi To send the MMS over Data but I don't really care for the look of Textra. I'm not sure if maybe my settings are off with Evolve as when I had my M8 it would send and receive with no problem. Anyone else having issues with this or know of any other 3rd party MMS apps that have the work aroudn built in like Textra?
Thanks,
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It depends on the app. I have issues with hello sms, but had them with the Nexus 5 too. Chomp SMS works more reliably, but I never know if I'm missing messages. I've resorted to using hangouts with the SO for images, and use texting for sms only.
Convincing other users to jump on yet another messaging app is always a hassle.
havanahjoe said:
It depends on the app. I have issues with hello sms, but had them with the Nexus 5 too. Chomp SMS works more reliably, but I never know if I'm missing messages. I've resorted to using hangouts with the SO for images, and use texting for sms only.
Convincing other users to jump on yet another messaging app is always a hassle.
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I went back to the stock messaging app because it was the only one that seemed to send and receive everything reliably while on wifi calling mode.
I mean, for one example, Google Hangouts doesn't even offer to resize pictures - and when you have a hard message size limit, that's a deal breaker. (The stock app indicates 1 MB is it.)
Before I switched to sprint I had used T-Mobile LG G3. The default messaging app split long text messages into two or three, and I received long messages in similar chunks. But I used the Textra messaging app and it ceased to do that. Long messages sent as one as well as receiving 500+ character text.
Now, being with sprint the problems have re-appeared and I an unable to fix it. Textra does not change the sms limits so I send multiple text to friends and likewise with receiving. This is not a huge issue just a major inconvenience and a nuisance.
Are there setting I'm messing, apps that will help, anything i can do to keep long message as one? Please and thank you for your help.
I think it's a Sprint issue. I've been with them for a long time and always remember this happening. However, if there is a fix, I'd love to know it also.
Newkidintown said:
Before I switched to sprint I had used T-Mobile LG G3. The default messaging app split long text messages into two or three, and I received long messages in similar chunks. But I used the Textra messaging app and it ceased to do that. Long messages sent as one as well as receiving 500+ character text.
Now, being with sprint the problems have re-appeared and I an unable to fix it. Textra does not change the sms limits so I send multiple text to friends and likewise with receiving. This is not a huge issue just a major inconvenience and a nuisance.
Are there setting I'm messing, apps that will help, anything i can do to keep long message as one? Please and thank you for your help.
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Sprint has the 160 character limit for SMS texting. If you want to text longer messages as a single message, you either need to use an instant messaging app like Google Hangouts (though those require the recipient to also have the messaging app), or find a texting app that can convert long messages to MMS if it goes past the 160 character limit. These solutions will convert the SMS to MMS or other forms of data, though, so just be aware of that if you have some sort of data limit.
If the converting SMS to data is not a viable solution, a quick google search revealed this app: BigSMS, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=skezza.main&hl=en.
It supposedly can make long texts, but I have never used it myself, so I can't comment on if it works or not.
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Sprint has the 160 character limit for SMS texting. If you want to text longer messages as a single message, you either need to use an instant messaging app like Google Hangouts (though those require the recipient to also have the messaging app), or find a texting app that can convert long messages to MMS if it goes past the 160 character limit. These solutions will convert the SMS to MMS or other forms of data, though, so just be aware of that if you have some sort of data limit.
If the converting SMS to data is not a viable solution, a quick google search revealed this app: BigSMS,
It supposedly can make long texts, but I have never used it myself, so I can't comment on if it works or not.
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As I said before, I used Textra in the past and my messages were sent as one and I received long messages as one. I recently downloaded EvolveSms which fixed the issue of my messages being split by converting them into MMS (which i have no problem with at all) but I still got 4 separate chunks of their message. I know there's an option to reassemble split messages but it seems to not be working. I'll go to a sprint store to see if there's an issue there or not.
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As I said before, I used Textra in the past and my messages were sent as one and I received long messages as one. I recently downloaded EvolveSms which fixed the issue of my messages being split by converting them into MMS (which i have no problem with at all) but I still got 4 separate chunks of their message. I know there's an option to reassemble split messages but it seems to not be working. I'll go to a sprint store to see if there's an issue there or not.
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Ok, Good luck with with the Sprint customer rep. The split SMS thing never bothered me since I've been on Sprint for a very long time. However, I did a quick google search, and it does seem like some devices have native support for recombining received SMS messages, like the Sprint Galaxy S 5, so it does look like it can work. Hopefully they can do it on the G4 as well.