[Q] Tough question: sound types - Desire General

Here's a tough question - not necessarily difficult to answer, but difficult to ask correctly.
Is there any possibility to change the "sound type" of a particular program without actually having access to the program source code (e.g. via an external application/setting)?
By "sound type" I mean the value which is shown when you use the side volume keys while the program is running. E.g. when playing music and you use the vol+/-, it will display "Media volume", when in the Home screen and you use the vol+/- it will say "Ringer volume" etc.
I'm using the Desire as my main in-car device. The sound goes over Bluetooth to a Motorola T505 handsfree/FM transmitter and from that one to the car radio via FM (yes, old car radio, no built-in Bluetooth).
The reason for which I need to change the sound type is because if they sound types are different, they can be adjusted independently - i.e. music volume to 50% and ringer volume to 30%, so that I don't get a heart attack when the phone rings.
The problem is that my navigation software (iGo Amigo) and HTC Media player both seem to use the "Media volume" designation for their sound output, so I cannot adjust them separately. This results either in listening to a very loud navigation or to low volume music. Other navigation software have their sound type as "Alert volume", so they can be set separately.
Any idea how/if this can be changed somehow? The Desire is completely stock, unbranded, running 2.2 and the latest OTA updates.
Thanks!
LE: in more elevated terms, this is the thing (well, the other way around) - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2744752/enable-media-volume-slider-in-android-application

airwave88 said:
Here's a tough question - not necessarily difficult to answer, but difficult to ask correctly.
Is there any possibility to change the "sound type" of a particular program without actually having access to the program source code (e.g. via an external application/setting)?
By "sound type" I mean the value which is shown when you use the side volume keys while the program is running. E.g. when playing music and you use the vol+/-, it will display "Media volume", when in the Home screen and you use the vol+/- it will say "Ringer volume" etc.
I'm using the Desire as my main in-car device. The sound goes over Bluetooth to a Motorola T505 handsfree/FM transmitter and from that one to the car radio via FM (yes, old car radio, no built-in Bluetooth).
The reason for which I need to change the sound type is because if they sound types are different, they can be adjusted independently - i.e. music volume to 50% and ringer volume to 30%, so that I don't get a heart attack when the phone rings.
The problem is that my navigation software (iGo Amigo) and HTC Media player both seem to use the "Media volume" designation for their sound output, so I cannot adjust them separately. This results either in listening to a very loud navigation or to low volume music. Other navigation software have their sound type as "Alert volume", so they can be set separately.
Any idea how/if this can be changed somehow? The Desire is completely stock, unbranded, running 2.2 and the latest OTA updates.
Thanks!
LE: in more elevated terms, this is the thing (well, the other way around) - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2744752/enable-media-volume-slider-in-android-application
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does igo not have an internal volume adjustment? i know copoilot does, so i can set my media volume to full and then adjust the actual volume level off the app independently

None that I could find, it seems to be stuck with some default values (iGo MyWay 2009).
Wondering if in Android there's an iGo configuration file similar to sys.txt on WinMo... might be able to set it there.

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Bluetooth Volume

I've searched and found 3 other threads on the same issue but with no solution
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I don't think it's possible to set higher volume than maximum volume provided by all 3 of headset, device volume and (sometimes) application volume. If all of these are set to max and it's still not enough, think about modification of the audio you are listening to.
Probably different version of BT stack (in different roms) might give a bit different volume, but I haven't noticed this effect (must not be so significant after all)

Control bluetooth headset volume? Sony HBH-IS800

I just paired a Sony bluetooth headset (HBH-IS800) with my Tilt 2 and the volume is quite loud when listening to music. I put media player sound volume down to 5%, apparently the lowest, and it's still very loud. The only other option at that point is going down to 0%, obviously too quiet :-|
Also, the main system volume slider on the side - no effect on the headset whatsoever. Whether it's maxed out or silent - the bluetooth headset is still too loud.
Does anyone have any recommendations on:
1) How to go between <5% and >0% volume on media player?
2) How to get the main volume control to affect the bluetooth headset volume?
3) Any other ideas on lowering the music volume overall? Maybe another (better?) music player could work? Maybe a reg setting I can modify?
Any advice is appreciated - the headset is so cool - I'd love to make it usable!!! - TIA!
-Fnortner
P.S. - I called Sony - their answer: "We don't support the headset unless it's paired with a Sony phone". Boo Sony!
I have the same problem with this headset.
I had it running on the Touch HD with volume control from the device works perfectly.
Is there any solution yet?
same volume control issue with BT8040
With both Media Player or PocketTunes, I am not able to alter the volume on the BT8040, either from the Tilt2, or the earpiece itself.
Never had this problem with the same earpiece and my original Tilt.
Same problem here
I have the same problem. I have a bluetooth set which I connect to FM transmiter. The problem is: Volume is all the way up so the music is horrible, it gets distorted. I'd like to know how to manage the bluetooth volume in the system settings, is there a way? Pushing the left buttons (system volume) wont affect bluetooth volume, neither any other volume control within the settings. Any help appreciated.
I have found a solution that works for me. I use Nitrogen Player and you can just turn the equalizer on and change the preamp level to close to the bottom. Works a treat for me.
Code:
Options -> Settings -> Equalizer.
http://code.google.com/p/microfi-nitrogen/
I have a bluetooth stereo headset and when I pair it it tells me that I can not control the volume from the phone.. any way to fix??
dahauss said:
I have a bluetooth stereo headset and when I pair it it tells me that I can not control the volume from the phone.. any way to fix??
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Same problem to me... I listen often to internet radio, but now it's too loud :-(
Same Problem here...
If anyone came up with a solution for this that works native to the ROM (vs just adjusting the eq) post it here, and I'll do the same.
jon5kr said:
If anyone came up with a solution for this that works native to the ROM (vs just adjusting the eq) post it here, and I'll do the same.
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I have a stereo BT headset, and whenever I pair it with my (tmo US) TP2, the phone throws up a standard "you have to adjust the volume from the headset, can't do it from the handset" warning...and when I do use the volume controls on the headset, the volume does adjust accordingly, but without any feedback from the phone (no volume slider or other indication), so the adjustment is obviously happening in the headset's circuitry, and the audio coming from the phone is at a static, un-adjustable level.
From the research I've done, the culprit is the sub-par Widcomm bluetooth stack in the phone, and I haven't yet found anyone who has engineered a replacement stack. I know the possibility exists (I upgraded the bluetooth stack on my Wizard a couple of years ago to get one that had the A2DP profile), but I just don't think anybody has made a replacement for this model yet
sirphunkee said:
I have a stereo BT headset, and whenever I pair it with my (tmo US) TP2, the phone throws up a standard "you have to adjust the volume from the headset, can't do it from the handset" warning...and when I do use the volume controls on the headset, the volume does adjust accordingly, but without any feedback from the phone (no volume slider or other indication), so the adjustment is obviously happening in the headset's circuitry, and the audio coming from the phone is at a static, un-adjustable level.
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Thanks for the reply! My situation is backwards in the sense that the headset doesn't have volume controls - and what I seem to be finding is that there doesn't seem to be an immediate fix for controlling a headset from the phone. I did use a tool called "Advanced Config" to find a default music volume that I can change, so I lowered that from 100 to 50 and now the volume is at least comfortable. However I have no control over it yet....
Could these issues be due to USB 2.0 versus USB 2.1 ?
I got a Motorola H17 (USB 2.1) and everything works perfect. Have volumn control from phone and headset and all audio sources work fine.
Oooops. Meant Bluetooth 2.0 vs Bluetooth 2.1.
jon5kr said:
Thanks for the reply! My situation is backwards in the sense that the headset doesn't have volume controls - and what I seem to be finding is that there doesn't seem to be an immediate fix for controlling a headset from the phone. I did use a tool called "Advanced Config" to find a default music volume that I can change, so I lowered that from 100 to 50 and now the volume is at least comfortable. However I have no control over it yet....
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Yes, for some reason, the BT stack in this phone seems to assume that all BT stereo headsets also have built-in controls on them and won't allow them to adjust system volume. I think we're probably stuck with that fact until somebody finds a BT stack to replace the TP2's native one.
The best workaround for now may be just to find and use a headset that does have volume controls. I'll be posting a review soon of the ones I have now, the Plantronics/Altec Lansing Backbeat 903's
jonto said:
Could these issues be due to USB 2.0 versus USB 2.1 ?
I got a Motorola H17 (USB 2.1) and everything works perfect. Have volumn control from phone and headset and all audio sources work fine.
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So when you play music through it, you can control the volume on the handset itself, and with controls on the headset? If so, I'm guessing it's because that's a monaural (not stereo) headset, so it may not be the same volume. My headset has BT 2.1 on it, and while I can control the playback etc on the phone, the volume controls only adjust the headset volume, not the volume on the phone.
sirphunkee said:
So when you play music through it, you can control the volume on the handset itself, and with controls on the headset? If so, I'm guessing it's because that's a monaural (not stereo) headset, so it may not be the same volume. My headset has BT 2.1 on it, and while I can control the playback etc on the phone, the volume controls only adjust the headset volume, not the volume on the phone.
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This may be true since it is only monaural. The volume control (on the phone) still controls the phone (thus the headset) while the BT control only controls the BT headset.
jonto said:
This may be true since it is only monaural. The volume control (on the phone) still controls the phone (thus the headset) while the BT control only controls the BT headset.
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Good evening,
If it can help you with tcpmp-0. 72RC1 - GF5500Edition - Alpha4. 1 can adjust the volume of this famous helmet HBH-IS800 and it is easier than with nitrogene.
Good evening
Ichtus
if its is supported by only sony phones(BB storm too) then can we get the profile from a xperia and install it on another device
I have seen multiple people state they can adjust the volume both on their headset and on the handset asystem volume. I thought perhaps it was the BT stack EXCEPT I was able to do this as well before I did a hard reset now I cannot adjust the 2 volume controls independently. The handset volume is static. Will someone that can adjust the system volume with a headset compare settings/egistry entries with me?
Is there a way we can adjust the volume of the line out from the bluetooth connection, anyone, lately ive have noticed that most devices are doing this, dont want to revert to a old stack but there has to be a way to combine the headset volume with the bluetooth volume

Car bluetooth volume always defaults to ~70% instead of max volume

Hey guys,
I like connecting my phone to my car's bluetooth. I have found a way to remove the "high volume" warning message so that the media volume output from my phone can be at maximum volume. However, every time my phone connects to my car's bluetooth, the volume defaults to being around 70% and not being at the max level. I would like to find a way to have bluetooth media output volume always be maxed out. Is there some way to do it maybe through adb or something like that?
Thank you

Strange audio streaming PX3 Radio+IGO+Media player

Hello,
As far I have learned from this forum about my PX3 i don't know how my HU is managing with audio streaming. I've recently made update from Malaysk 4.1 to 5.2, but thats no ROM issue (i think) So here we go:
All options with the same system volume level!
Navigation setting in system settings set to "Mixing" and "mixing ratio" at 10 and IGO itself setting on max volume (for all the time without any changes).
1. When radio app is off and IGO navi on, prompts can be heard from all speakers loud enough.
2. When radio plays and IGO on, voice prompts can be heard from front speakers only and are quieter than radio itself. Turning radio app off, voice of IGO can be heard again from all speakers and louder.
3. With Music player on, source USB drive, music is significant quieter in compare with radio.
4. With that quieter music from USB, IGO voice becomes louder approx. double than music player, so when You listen to music on road with volume up, IGO can blast ears/mind.
The most strange thing is difference between point no1 and no2. With changes of firmware it didn't change nothing.
Any suggestions?

HIFI DAC Help( Audio Experts needed! )

Hi guys. I downloaded an app called Android hidden settings from the play store. I already use settings database editor as well as the hidden settings magisk module, but I saw if one thing inside this app I haven't seen anywhere else. There is a setting called Hi Fi DAC pop up. When you click on it floating window opens and it gives you the option to turn on DTS x and the hi-fi quad DAC. you can toggle the switch is regardless of whether or not you're playing music so I figured this wouldn't do anything. This is what I noticed:
When the floating window first appears, DTS is already enabled, I disabled it and toggled the DAC switch to the on position and proceeded to open my music player. From here I opened the full settings menu and clicked on the sound effects section to check if the DAC was switched on in the phones full menu and the toggle is actually still set to the on position. Figuring there would be no change in sound, I messed with the left and right channels anyway as well as the sound preset and digital filter. Before I go further I forgot to mention that I do not have headphones plugged in, I am playing music directly through the phone speaker. To my surprise, the audio quality does change and the volume is limited to 75 as if a headset was plugged in.
I opened up the Flinger Dump app to check audio output details but it is very limited to what it shows. I'm wondering if anyone with more knowledge on the topic and the proper tools could do some further testing and see what changes actually occur. I use UAPP, and its output is showing differently then flinger dump is. Could be a complete waste of time, could lead to something further...
If I have not misunderstood, what you mean is that with that app, you inadvertently activated the dac or the dts for the speaker's sound channel, right? If so, it would be amazing to be able to modify how the dac behaves without headphones. Perhaps it could be activated for the speaker, perhaps not, but what you propose is very interesting.
I'm honestly not sure. I don't believe so, but it's definitely done something and I don't have the knowledge or the software to see exactly what has changed. Basically, unless you have headphones or an auxiliary cord plugged into the phones Jack, you can't toggle the Hi-Fi DAC button to the on position as I'm sure you're fully aware of. This hidden shortcut allows it to be toggled on without anything plugged in to the headphone jack. I played some tracks thinking that there is a 99.9% chance that the audio quality wouldn't change ( or the sound wouldn't change, I don't know about quality ) but to my surprise it did change the sound. As long as the DTS:X is turned off, all of the other options had some sort of effect on the audio. The sound preset, the digital filter and the left and right channel knobs all had some sort of effect on any audio I played through the phone's internal speaker, and the volume limit changed from 100 down to 75, exactly how it would behave if headphones were plugged in.
I just need someone to help figure out exactly what this is changing, because my music app is showing 16bit and various Khz from the 300 range to over 1000...and as you can see from the screenshot the FlingerDump app is showing 24bit to 32bit and depending on the track but the KHZ remains the same.
It may be a dead end, but I figured that since there is an actual change in sound.... there may be a possibility for someone with more knowledge than me to take this and run with it and see where it leads. I removed all of my audio mods except for JamesDSP and John Fawkes DTS tuning because every other mod made my phone upsample everything from 44.1 to 48 and it was pissing me off. The results above were with USB Audio Player Pro, but I disabled bit perfect mode when I tested this out in order to avoid interference with the results.
I'm on stock android q (through fota) and out of curiosity i tried that. Nothing happened. I can tap it and nothing. The same with dts settings. Turning quad dac to small speaker for me have no sense. Idk how circuits looks, but i think system itself don't let reroute signal through dac to speaker. BUT if ypu want to check then try that.
Open terminal app and type
su -c tinymix
And look for what is on screen.
If it's state is closed then quad dac is not working. If state is hifi, then it's working.

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