Control bluetooth headset volume? Sony HBH-IS800 - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I just paired a Sony bluetooth headset (HBH-IS800) with my Tilt 2 and the volume is quite loud when listening to music. I put media player sound volume down to 5%, apparently the lowest, and it's still very loud. The only other option at that point is going down to 0%, obviously too quiet :-|
Also, the main system volume slider on the side - no effect on the headset whatsoever. Whether it's maxed out or silent - the bluetooth headset is still too loud.
Does anyone have any recommendations on:
1) How to go between <5% and >0% volume on media player?
2) How to get the main volume control to affect the bluetooth headset volume?
3) Any other ideas on lowering the music volume overall? Maybe another (better?) music player could work? Maybe a reg setting I can modify?
Any advice is appreciated - the headset is so cool - I'd love to make it usable!!! - TIA!
-Fnortner
P.S. - I called Sony - their answer: "We don't support the headset unless it's paired with a Sony phone". Boo Sony!

I have the same problem with this headset.
I had it running on the Touch HD with volume control from the device works perfectly.
Is there any solution yet?

same volume control issue with BT8040
With both Media Player or PocketTunes, I am not able to alter the volume on the BT8040, either from the Tilt2, or the earpiece itself.
Never had this problem with the same earpiece and my original Tilt.

Same problem here
I have the same problem. I have a bluetooth set which I connect to FM transmiter. The problem is: Volume is all the way up so the music is horrible, it gets distorted. I'd like to know how to manage the bluetooth volume in the system settings, is there a way? Pushing the left buttons (system volume) wont affect bluetooth volume, neither any other volume control within the settings. Any help appreciated.

I have found a solution that works for me. I use Nitrogen Player and you can just turn the equalizer on and change the preamp level to close to the bottom. Works a treat for me.
Code:
Options -> Settings -> Equalizer.
http://code.google.com/p/microfi-nitrogen/

I have a bluetooth stereo headset and when I pair it it tells me that I can not control the volume from the phone.. any way to fix??

dahauss said:
I have a bluetooth stereo headset and when I pair it it tells me that I can not control the volume from the phone.. any way to fix??
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Same problem to me... I listen often to internet radio, but now it's too loud :-(

Same Problem here...
If anyone came up with a solution for this that works native to the ROM (vs just adjusting the eq) post it here, and I'll do the same.

jon5kr said:
If anyone came up with a solution for this that works native to the ROM (vs just adjusting the eq) post it here, and I'll do the same.
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I have a stereo BT headset, and whenever I pair it with my (tmo US) TP2, the phone throws up a standard "you have to adjust the volume from the headset, can't do it from the handset" warning...and when I do use the volume controls on the headset, the volume does adjust accordingly, but without any feedback from the phone (no volume slider or other indication), so the adjustment is obviously happening in the headset's circuitry, and the audio coming from the phone is at a static, un-adjustable level.
From the research I've done, the culprit is the sub-par Widcomm bluetooth stack in the phone, and I haven't yet found anyone who has engineered a replacement stack. I know the possibility exists (I upgraded the bluetooth stack on my Wizard a couple of years ago to get one that had the A2DP profile), but I just don't think anybody has made a replacement for this model yet

sirphunkee said:
I have a stereo BT headset, and whenever I pair it with my (tmo US) TP2, the phone throws up a standard "you have to adjust the volume from the headset, can't do it from the handset" warning...and when I do use the volume controls on the headset, the volume does adjust accordingly, but without any feedback from the phone (no volume slider or other indication), so the adjustment is obviously happening in the headset's circuitry, and the audio coming from the phone is at a static, un-adjustable level.
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Thanks for the reply! My situation is backwards in the sense that the headset doesn't have volume controls - and what I seem to be finding is that there doesn't seem to be an immediate fix for controlling a headset from the phone. I did use a tool called "Advanced Config" to find a default music volume that I can change, so I lowered that from 100 to 50 and now the volume is at least comfortable. However I have no control over it yet....

Could these issues be due to USB 2.0 versus USB 2.1 ?
I got a Motorola H17 (USB 2.1) and everything works perfect. Have volumn control from phone and headset and all audio sources work fine.

Oooops. Meant Bluetooth 2.0 vs Bluetooth 2.1.

jon5kr said:
Thanks for the reply! My situation is backwards in the sense that the headset doesn't have volume controls - and what I seem to be finding is that there doesn't seem to be an immediate fix for controlling a headset from the phone. I did use a tool called "Advanced Config" to find a default music volume that I can change, so I lowered that from 100 to 50 and now the volume is at least comfortable. However I have no control over it yet....
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Yes, for some reason, the BT stack in this phone seems to assume that all BT stereo headsets also have built-in controls on them and won't allow them to adjust system volume. I think we're probably stuck with that fact until somebody finds a BT stack to replace the TP2's native one.
The best workaround for now may be just to find and use a headset that does have volume controls. I'll be posting a review soon of the ones I have now, the Plantronics/Altec Lansing Backbeat 903's

jonto said:
Could these issues be due to USB 2.0 versus USB 2.1 ?
I got a Motorola H17 (USB 2.1) and everything works perfect. Have volumn control from phone and headset and all audio sources work fine.
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So when you play music through it, you can control the volume on the handset itself, and with controls on the headset? If so, I'm guessing it's because that's a monaural (not stereo) headset, so it may not be the same volume. My headset has BT 2.1 on it, and while I can control the playback etc on the phone, the volume controls only adjust the headset volume, not the volume on the phone.

sirphunkee said:
So when you play music through it, you can control the volume on the handset itself, and with controls on the headset? If so, I'm guessing it's because that's a monaural (not stereo) headset, so it may not be the same volume. My headset has BT 2.1 on it, and while I can control the playback etc on the phone, the volume controls only adjust the headset volume, not the volume on the phone.
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This may be true since it is only monaural. The volume control (on the phone) still controls the phone (thus the headset) while the BT control only controls the BT headset.

jonto said:
This may be true since it is only monaural. The volume control (on the phone) still controls the phone (thus the headset) while the BT control only controls the BT headset.
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Good evening,
If it can help you with tcpmp-0. 72RC1 - GF5500Edition - Alpha4. 1 can adjust the volume of this famous helmet HBH-IS800 and it is easier than with nitrogene.
Good evening
Ichtus

if its is supported by only sony phones(BB storm too) then can we get the profile from a xperia and install it on another device

I have seen multiple people state they can adjust the volume both on their headset and on the handset asystem volume. I thought perhaps it was the BT stack EXCEPT I was able to do this as well before I did a hard reset now I cannot adjust the 2 volume controls independently. The handset volume is static. Will someone that can adjust the system volume with a headset compare settings/egistry entries with me?

Is there a way we can adjust the volume of the line out from the bluetooth connection, anyone, lately ive have noticed that most devices are doing this, dont want to revert to a old stack but there has to be a way to combine the headset volume with the bluetooth volume

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Bluetooth headset volyme, need help

when connecting any "STEREO" headset i can't raise or lower volyme, it's always at max regardless of volyme onscreen.
probably this is due to new bluetooth drivers and hardware.
But if anyone got the same problem or solution plese post it..
smaberg said:
when connecting any "STEREO" headset i can't raise or lower volyme, it's always at max regardless of volyme onscreen.
probably this is due to new bluetooth drivers and hardware.
But if anyone got the same problem or solution plese post it..
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Woo. U got the Rhodium too??
To answer your question, it's a well known issue w/ Broadcom stack. And there could poping sound issue as well if you have multiple program sending sound together (e.g. A2DP w/ coreplayer + Voice prompt w/ GPS program) <== Can you verify this.
I don't have Rhodium (maybe yet) but my Asus P525 w/ broadcom stack has this problem. Never heard any solution so far.
a2dp
yes, I can confirm the same problem: with A2DP the side keys do not work for volume setting (they set the system volume which is not coupled to the BT volume when having the WidComm stack).
the workaround is to have a media player with separated volume setting like CorePlayer, which works pretty fine for me
that aint the problem, the problem is that every time i connect the stereo headset it sets the volyme to max and i cant lower the volyme by any meens. (yes ive tried about 5 different brands of headsets)
BT vol
what do you mean by "any means" - which controls did you try? the sidekeys will definitely not work, as I stated above. only if the player has a separate volume slider, that'll do something.
terta said:
what do you mean by "any means" - which controls did you try? the sidekeys will definitely not work, as I stated above. only if the player has a separate volume slider, that'll do something.
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i tried the hardware keys, htc volyme control and built in control of coreplayer.
coreplayers built in volyme works in 1 out of 3 times, and this is tried right after hardreset.
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well, CorePlayer volume setting works for me always - no matter if I did hardreset or not (and I'm quite a heavy user with Igo, Exchange MailSync, Opera, etc.). CP version is 1.3.2 build 6909.
(and my headset is SonyE. HBH-IS800)
terta said:
yes, I can confirm the same problem: with A2DP the side keys do not work for volume setting (they set the system volume which is not coupled to the BT volume when having the WidComm stack).
the workaround is to have a media player with separated volume setting like CorePlayer, which works pretty fine for me
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Unfortunately, some stupid program like TomTom, IGO do not has this option...
BTW, do you folks encounter any "poping", or sound distortion issue when multiple programs (e.g. GPS + Coreplayer) trying to play sound together? It would be a deal breaker to me if it does...
distortion
did not have this scenario yet - I use igo in the car where I have a BT handsfree carkit which does not use A2DP. so igo announces everything on the own TP2 speaker, while calls are on the car radio.
jackleung said:
BTW, do you folks encounter any "poping", or sound distortion issue when multiple programs (e.g. GPS + Coreplayer) trying to play sound together? It would be a deal breaker to me if it does...
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When I use IGO8 and the audiomanager at the same time, the sound works for a while and than stops working. I Have to turn bluetooth of, soft reset and turn everything again. But the same problem happens again. Even trying to use WMP or HTCAlbum to watch videos and listen with a2dp the same problem happens again.
I dont know, but it seems that the bluetooth memory reaches a level and than it stops working. I dont Know. Any Ideas ???
Thanks
I have the same problems. It's really unpleasant !
So, i tried to install Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3 and v3.2 to try configurate control volume, but the program doesn't work on my Rhodium...?!?
I have the same problems. It's really unpleasant !
So, i tried to install Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3 and v3.2 to try configurate control volume, but the program doesn't work on my Rhodium...?!?
I'm using the hbh-is800 and experienced the same problem of not being able to control the volume which seemed to always be at max. this was especially frustrating as i quite like the tf3d player, but was forced to use other players with software volume control.
My makeshift fix was to edit the registry for the default volume of the tf3d player.
\HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config
music_player_volumn default = 100
I lowered it to 30 and after a soft reset the volume on my hbh-is800 is now at a comfortable level.
i still can't change the volume on the fly, but a fixed comfortable volume is better than the original fixed max volume.

I cannot control the volume of Streaming Bluetooth Audio.... :(

I have a pair of bluetooth headphones and a bluetooth receiver in my car.
Once i pair either one to my Touch Pro 2, i noticed that raising/lowering the volume on my HD2 does not affect the audio what so ever(unless i put it on mute).
The music sounds very loud and distorted, and i cant control the volume either way...Anyone else run into this issue? How can i solve it?
That's normal. You need to adjust the volume at the receiving end.
I have the exact same problem. Not sure why as when I pair up to my speakers, the phone tells me it cannot control the volume, yet it worked fine on my "Touch Pro" (the 1st one) and my Kaiser. Not looked for a solution, because its not much of an issue for me really.
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That's normal. You need to adjust the volume at the receiving end.
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But the problem is that, the audio being streamed from the HD2 is so loud and distorted, that i have to turn it down(but i cant).
So even if i turn it down on the receiving end, the distortion is still there.
With my old samsung omnia, i was able to turn the music up or down from the phone...I dont understand why this isnt possible with the Touch Pro 2.
The music coming from my phone is unlistenable. The distortion ruins the audio. Which really sucks, because i spent $300 on a car reciever with bluetooth!
There has to be a solution! Come on XDA!
Try turning it down on the phone first? Or get a player that uses it's own volume control instead of the system volume (I believe Mort Player and Nitrogen will do this).
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But the problem is that, the audio being streamed from the HD2 is so loud and distorted, that i have to turn it down(but i cant).
So even if i turn it down on the receiving end, the distortion is still there.
With my old samsung omnia, i was able to turn the music up or down from the phone...I dont understand why this isnt possible with the Touch Pro 2.
The music coming from my phone is unlistenable. The distortion ruins the audio. Which really sucks, because i spent $300 on a car reciever with bluetooth!
There has to be a solution! Come on XDA!
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Same problem here!!!
No volume control at all on TP2, and volume of music cant be changed through the system volume control either
I have a bluetooth connection to my motorcycle intercom system. I had the same problem, sort of.
I installed Conduits Pocket Player, and use the equalizer to bring down the level of the Bluetooth. That worked well enough for what I needed to do.
I read somewhere else on the forum here that this issue is attributed to the Widcomm Buetooth stack on our phones. Whenever I connect my headset to my phone or my laptop, I receive a warning that the volume must be adjusted on the output device, and cannot be adjusted on the phone/computer. It may be related to the poor support for AVRCP.
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Try turning it down on the phone first? Or get a player that uses it's own volume control instead of the system volume (I believe Mort Player and Nitrogen will do this).
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ok, so it seems that this wincomm bluetooth stack or whatever SUCKS. You're right....I guess the only work around i guess is a player that doesnt use the system volume, like coreplayer.
Coreplayer is great for movies, but for playing mp3's i would prefer Slide 2 Play.
Havent tried nitrogen yet though.
Does a mp3 player exist that is similar to slide 2 play, but doesnt use the system volume of the phone?
I too am not able to use many of the bluetooth audio accessories such as my jabra headphones, desktop speakers and my indash audio system. None of which work as they did with my Kaiser. This was supposed to be an upgrade to my Tilt and it doesnt even support the OLD protocals that were common 2 years ago?? Im seriously considering switching to blackberry. Anyone intrested in a nearly new Tilt 2. Goodbye htc (high tech crap)
THis is a problem with the bluetooth stack, just email HTC so they can get a patch for this. or microsoft because they are the ones that control what stack it gets.
this Goes for the HD2 and others too

[Q] Volume Profiles - Bluetooth and Headphones should be seperate levels

I have a small issue that may not be possible to resolve, but I don't understand why they have a BlueTooth volume control when all of my BT headsets and car stereo have independent volume controls, thus negating the need for there to be a stock BT profile with volume. This is only an issue because when I am wanting there to be an option to always go 100% volume with BT and use my current Media Volume for headphones and speakerphone output.
Does anyone have a fix for this? I have a theory that this can be done via Tasker (if that is the consensus, I will work on it and post a how-to if this is a popular request), but if this is a development issue and requires some BT Profile modifications, I can open a request in Development rather than Q&A.
Am I the only one annoyed at this? Or are there users that benefit from the BT Volume profile?
I always get blasted when using headsets or can't hear when in the car thus invalidating the hands-free component while I reach for the phone to hit the Volume Up button...

Car bluetooth volume

Anyway to increase the car Bluetooth volume? Pixel XL is way too soft compare with all my previous phone. Thanks.
angka8 said:
Anyway to increase the car Bluetooth volume? Pixel XL is way too soft compare with all my previous phone. Thanks.
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This may be a dumb question, but did you try turning up the volume on the phone? I know my phone likes to reset the volume to really low when my car connects sometimes. After I turn the volume back up on the phone it's plenty loud in my car stereo.
Failing that, there's a "Disable absolute Volume" option for Bluetooth audio in developer options you could try.
This happens to me when I have connected to my bluetooth headphones and turned the volume down. When I connect again in the car the volume stays at what the headphones were at and I have to turn the volume up on the phone. After that it sticks until I use my headphones again.
csick said:
This may be a dumb question, but did you try turning up the volume on the phone? I know my phone likes to reset the volume to really low when my car connects sometimes. After I turn the volume back up on the phone it's plenty loud in my car stereo.
Failing that, there's a "Disable absolute Volume" option for Bluetooth audio in developer options you could try.
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Ok let me try option. Thanks.
Headsets tend to control the bt volume on the phone. Cars often have their own volume and don't send volume commands to the phone.
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Anyway to increase the car Bluetooth volume? Pixel XL is way too soft compare with all my previous phone. Thanks.
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I agree, I've found myself turning the car volume up 3-4 more turns than I used to. Not a huge deal, but definitely noticeable.
I've noticed the same thing on my Pixel XL while on bluetooth in my car but I'm also using the new Android Auto app as well.
Yesterday i noticed that while driving home from work i had low volume on my music (Car radio & phone were max volume) but while using Google Play music it went to a commercial (Don't pay for it) and started went very loud. After the commercial was over it went back to low volume?
Does this remind anyone of the TV commercial having loud volume issue to get your attention?
Can anyone confirm my suspicion?
Bluetooth gain/volume has always been an issue for me.
I make a lot of DIY portable bluetooth speakers as a hobby and BT input volume is a huge issue compared vs. analog input.
I finally found a Chinese BT amplifer manufacturer who was willing to mod their amp's BT input with higher gain. This helped considerably.
My old JVC car stereo was awful. I was always having to boost the BT output gain.
My 2015 Kia Optima's Infinity stereo doesn't have the same issue. BT volume is fine.
If you are willing to root and try a mod on your phone, the Viper4Android mod lets you raise Bluetooth gain:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/themes/mod-weta-audio-t3491179
Hope this helps.
csick said:
This may be a dumb question, but did you try turning up the volume on the phone? I know my phone likes to reset the volume to really low when my car connects sometimes. After I turn the volume back up on the phone it's plenty loud in my car stereo.
Failing that, there's a "Disable absolute Volume" option for Bluetooth audio in developer options you could try.
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This is not working. Hopefully the update will resolve this.

very low Bluetooth volume output

I have noticed that when either connected to Bluetooth headphones or streaming to my car stereo that I am having to turn the volume up to nearly 90% just to get a reasonable volume.
Any work around for this ?
hpsauce37 said:
I have noticed that when either connected to Bluetooth headphones or streaming to my car stereo that I am having to turn the volume up to nearly 90% just to get a reasonable volume.
Any work around for this ?
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Yea I have a pair of wireless beatsx, but those headphones are junk anyway. Can not get them "loud". Maybe its the phone/bluetooth..
I noticed the same thing when I first paired the 7t with my car's BT. I don't consider it a problem because all I had to do was raise the volume on the car radio, and it remembered the setting. But I'm only listening to navigation prompts and voice phone calls. I haven't tried it with music.
Anyone solved this problem?
While using headphones or any audio-bt devices connected to oneplus 7t i can get only around 70-80% of max device volume.
My bluetooth can get painfully loud on any system... Are you sure you are not facing to sets of volume controls?
Some "dumb" headphones / speakers just have one output volume and you control loudness via the phone volume. Others have their own volume processing (like a car stereo). If you max out your phone volume then you can control the loudness via the stereo.
Numerous times I've been in the car and can't figure out why I need to turn the stereo volume up so high only to realize I've bumped the phone volume to a low setting.

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