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Excalibur (S620) successor: the Cavelier (S630)

Hey guys,
I was planning on buying the S620 Excalibur. But I came across the follow websites stating that the successor, the S630 (cavelier) will be selling in June 2007.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/01/16/unboxing-htc-cavalier/
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=676
This model also has UMTS and HSDPA as well a a 400mhz cpu instead of the 200mhz from the excalibur. And some more adjustments which you can see in the links.
UPDATE: IT's available
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i...rtner=register
As of Wednesday the 5th of September you can order the HTC S630 With windows mobile 6!!! Finally.
SPECS:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=676
Movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDz108bf_xw
Thanks,

Dopod have announced their model in Asia. No news on US/Europe release of this.
The S620 is doing very well in their respective markets as well. With WM6 coming out soon for the generic WM6 there may not be a big demand for this model. Rumors months back indicated this model was actually cancelled.
I guess we will see...

The Cavalier was effectively vaporware until recently when Dopod decided to sell it. However, it won't be on sale until July if I recall correctly.
In July, most likely, more companies will pick it up. It seems to be a worthy upgrade to the Excalibur but it was announced soon after the Dash was released resulting in rampant speculation.

It's Finally There
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=149749&partner=register
As of Wednesday the 5th of September you can order the HTC S630 With windows mobile 6!!! Finally.
SPECS:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=676
Movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDz108bf_xw
I'm gonna order straight away!

Just remember, the Cavalier does NOT have 1700mhz if you are looking for a Dash replacement on T-Mobile USA. So, it is not a universal replacement.......

Please excuse my ignorence. 1700Mhz.. is this a band allocated for upcoming T-Mo UMTS in USA?
cinimod1000 said:
Just remember, the Cavalier does NOT have 1700mhz if you are looking for a Dash replacement on T-Mobile USA. So, it is not a universal replacement.......
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hmm, I live in the netherlands so it's compatible either way. I only have to wait till it comes available otherwise I will other it from the US

SecureGSM said:
Please excuse my ignorence. 1700Mhz.. is this a band allocated for upcoming T-Mo UMTS in USA?
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Yes - that is the frequency that T-Mo is using for UMTS

US 3G Data?

So I'm looking around for a Rhodium to pick up, and find out that (at least that I've found) don't have the 3G network data for the US... just every other country >_>.
I *really* want this phone. I have a tilt and this is the next logical step. However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model. So my question is: Is it possible to manually update the 3g network data for US usage? It's kind of pointless to spend over 600 bucks on a phone that I can't use to it's full potential.
Second, anyone know where I can pick one up less than 600 bucks?

usually it has to do more with hardware rather than software, so you're out of luck. Less than 600, more likely it will be a used one off of here or ebay.

lordxiagan said:
So I'm looking around for a Rhodium to pick up, and find out that (at least that I've found) don't have the 3G network data for the US... just every other country >_>.
I *really* want this phone. I have a tilt and this is the next logical step. However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model. So my question is: Is it possible to manually update the 3g network data for US usage? It's kind of pointless to spend over 600 bucks on a phone that I can't use to it's full potential.
Second, anyone know where I can pick one up less than 600 bucks?
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No it´s not possible
I understand your concern, on my case is the same or buy the beautyful european version without american 3g or wait till some american carrier bring it and with the diferences like keyboard, color, etc...
I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
As for the price, if you want to buy an european version there are plenty sites with good prices like clove uk
Let´s see what happens?

lordxiagan said:
However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model.
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from what has been posted on this forum, the at&t version does not have a crap keyboard. your probably talking about that picture that shows a red one with a jacked up keyboard. That is NOT the at&t version. Somebody here on this forum saw an at&t version in person and said that it has the same exact keyboard layout as the unlocked version.

orb3000 said:
No it´s not possible
I understand your concern, on my case is the same or buy the beautyful european version without american 3g or wait till some american carrier bring it and with the diferences like keyboard, color, etc...
I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
As for the price, if you want to buy an european version there are plenty sites with good prices like clove uk
Let´s see what happens?
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Where did you get that date of July 22 from?

orb3000 said:
I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
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I think it's T-Mobile that'll have it on July 22nd, with their T-Mobile weird/specific 3G bands, not AT&T. I'm still anxiously waiting for AT&T to announce the release date...

^yep, the July 22nd date is for Tmob...hopefully it won't be pushed back!

omaralt said:
from what has been posted on this forum, the at&t version does not have a crap keyboard. your probably talking about that picture that shows a red one with a jacked up keyboard. That is NOT the at&t version. Somebody here on this forum saw an at&t version in person and said that it has the same exact keyboard layout as the unlocked version.
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Orly? Yeah, I was talking about the one with the red keyboard (the red was cool, the 10-key was not >_>). If that isn't the ATT model, then what IS it and why is that picture out there?
If the att version is standard keyboard, then I'm all about getting one from att with (hopefully) US 3g.
Thanks for all the replies!

That was a mock-up picture. If you look at the slide it says 5-Row QWERTY but the picture of the phone shows a 4-row QWERTZ. I also doubt they would keep that hideous red color.

Use Sprint TP2 in Germany

Hi,
I'm from Germany and want to buy the Sprint HTC TP2.
Now I found some pages that say i cannot use the phone here.
Because it has quadband i think i can use gsm here, but i don't know wether umts in Germany is fully supported.
Sprint homepage says it's an international phone, but i don't know much about the frequencies of umts and else.
Why I didn't buy the phone in Germany?
Here it costs $700, the Sprint version has a audio output (3.5mm), so i donÄt need any adaptor, and i like the full black hardware keyboard more than the silver german one.
So, what's about the umts and gsm frequency in Germany and would be there any problems?
Thanx,
CrossFire

Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
By the way, I bought my phone for 519 Euros in Germany. And unlike the US variety, it comes with warranty that's actually good in Germany and I have my two years of Gewährleistung that you don't get when you buy it abroad. Considering how expensive the phone would be to replace or fix when it breaks, you might want to make sure you can actually make use of the warranty coverage.
Alternatively, buy it from China. It's about 380 Euros there, but at least it's GSM. Mind you that shipping costs and particularly import taxes and duties make the price difference between a domestic and an imported device rather small. I don't think it's worth losing the warranty

xanthene said:
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
By the way, I bought my phone for 519 Euros in Germany. And unlike the US variety, it comes with warranty that's actually good in Germany and I have my two years of Gewährleistung that you don't get when you buy it abroad. Considering how expensive the phone would be to replace or fix when it breaks, you might want to make sure you can actually make use of the warranty coverage.
Alternatively, buy it from China. It's about 380 Euros there, but at least it's GSM. Mind you that shipping costs and particularly import taxes and duties make the price difference between a domestic and an imported device rather small. I don't think it's worth losing the warranty
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Actually, the CDMA touch pro 2s are all world phones capable of quadband GSM/EDGE in addition to Euro 3G (2100mhz). The Sprint branded phones are sim-unlocked, but they just can't use US carriers like T-Mobile USA or AT&T.
I'm not guaranteeing that it'll work, but it should in Germany.

xanthene said:
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
afaik, the sprint version should work just fine in Germany. It does have 3G GSM, and as long as you don't try it in the US you will be fine.

scooler said:
You have no idea what you are talking about.
afaik, the sprint version should work just fine in Germany. It does have 3G GSM, and as long as you don't try it in the US you will be fine.
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My mistake. I have to say that there is no clear indication on either Sprint.com, HTC.com or Microsoft.com that says that GSM features the phone has. However, I checked the Sprint manual for the phone and it turns out it does support GSM.
Am I right in saying that GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS will work, but HSDPA/HSUPA won't?

xanthene: Just for future reference, if you are in need of a full detailed spec list, you can always visit www.pdadb.net. They always have a very comprehensive list with details on the phones that will be and have already been released.

HTC 10 in Japan, ok for root?

I am living in Japan and I definitely want to buy the new HTC 10.
I am concerned thus that I could have problem to root it or unlock the bootloader since it's my first time to buy a phone here in Japan, not sure if that could be a problem.
I was considering to ask my friend to send it to me from UK, to have a European version.
What do you guys think? Would it be fine if I buy it here then root it as I always did?
Thanks in advance!

In Japan, too, and will be snapping this baby up hopefully when Au releases it in June (my guess, based on past summer releases and what I have seen on HTCsoku). I've had no issues unlocking and getting s-off on HTC phones (Desire then the M7, my current phone) here in the past, so I don't see why we'd have any issues this time. Hopefully, we'll get some joy from Sunshine soon enough and can find out for sure.

androg said:
In Japan, too, and will be snapping this baby up hopefully when Au releases it in June (my guess, based on past summer releases and what I have seen on HTCsoku). I've had no issues unlocking and getting s-off on HTC phones (Desire then the M7, my current phone) here in the past, so I don't see why we'd have any issues this time. Hopefully, we'll get some joy from Sunshine soon enough and can find out for sure.
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Thanks for your help!
I was a bit concerned as I own a UK M8 now with a BiCSim provider sim card, but it seems like I cannot get a 4G signal, as I don't have band 1 unlocked on this phone.
For this reason I was a bit worried, you never know...
Just out of curiosity, what kind of ROMs are u flashing on your HTC? I mean, is there a thread specifically made for Japanese phones/ROMs?
Thanks again!

No probs. It's early days yet for everyone, things being tested, guides being made, so keep an eye on the forum. Very few people even have the phone at this point, and we are still at least a month away from Japan release. Be patient, grasshopper.
I have TWRP and still have stock on my old M7. Was easy-peasy. As far as Japan-specific phones go, in the past they have basically just been one or two sub-threads within the particular phone's forum. There are a few XDA folk based in Japan, but not so many HTC users - who knows, I haven't fiddled with my phone for almost two years, so there may be more these days). Best idea is to keep an eye out here and on local HTC fansites (like HTCsoku, as I mentioned - you might need Japanese ability to get the most out of them, mind you).
yukinok25 said:
Thanks for your help!
I was a bit concerned as I own a UK M8 now with a BiCSim provider sim card, but it seems like I cannot get a 4G signal, as I don't have band 1 unlocked on this phone.
For this reason I was a bit worried, you never know...
Just out of curiosity, what kind of ROMs are u flashing on your HTC? I mean, is there a thread specifically made for Japanese phones/ROMs?
Thanks again!
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androg said:
No probs. It's early days yet for everyone, things being tested, guides being made, so keep an eye on the forum. Very few people even have the phone at this point, and we are still at least a month away from Japan release. Be patient, grasshopper.
I have TWRP and still have stock on my old M7. Was easy-peasy. As far as Japan-specific phones go, in the past they have basically just been one or two sub-threads within the particular phone's forum. There are a few XDA folk based in Japan, but not so many HTC users - who knows, I haven't fiddled with my phone for almost two years, so there may be more these days). Best idea is to keep an eye out here and on local HTC fansites (like HTCsoku, as I mentioned - you might need Japanese ability to get the most out of them, mind you).
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Yep, checked the HTCsoku website, seems interesting, but too hard for me now, still a rookie..
Anyway much appreciation for your precious info, thanks again!
Sent from my HTC One_M8

HTC in Japan
Also living in Japan. I have the HTC One rooted with Android Revolution HD 92.0 installed. I have a Rakuten Mobile sim card and LTE works fine (when available which is not at many places).
I am also planning on buying the HTC 10. I haven't yet found the detailed differences between the different versions but the Asian version may be preferable to the European version (at least that's what I decided for the HTC One).

tokjdm said:
Also living in Japan. I have the HTC One rooted with Android Revolution HD 92.0 installed. I have a Rakuten Mobile sim card and LTE works fine (when available which is not at many places).
I am also planning on buying the HTC 10. I haven't yet found the detailed differences between the different versions but the Asian version may be preferable to the European version (at least that's what I decided for the HTC One).
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Find this One today:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B01...rds=htc+10&dpPl=1&dpID=41EkBGDHiFL&ref=plSrch
How reliable do you think it would be?
There are no reviews yet and I am scared it might be as scam...
Sent from my HTC One_M8

I don't know but you can find cheaper with free delivery to Japan on ebay

tokjdm said:
I don't know but you can find cheaper with free delivery to Japan on ebay
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True, I checked also on the amazon UK website and its definitely cheaper, around 85.000 yen, about 550£.
I still have a 50£ voucher on Amazon UK, still thinking to buy it there and ask my friend to send it to me, I guess even with the delivery will be much cheaper.
Sent from my HTC One_M8

If you look here the price is cheaper on amazon.de:
http://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-htc-10
The only thing is I am not sure the HTC10 sold in Europe is exactly the same one that is sold in Asia

tokjdm said:
If you look here the price is cheaper on amazon.de:
http://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-htc-10
The only thing is I am not sure the HTC10 sold in Europe is exactly the same one that is sold in Asia
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This is the only thing I am worried infact, because my M8 currently doesn't work with LTE here, but is basically a 2 years old phone, at that time 4G was still kind of new.
For a while I will keep looking..

I should have looked better: there are apparently only two versions available, US and EMEA (see here: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10-7884.php).
For Japan, the bands available are not that great.
Docomo is mostly on bands 1, 3 and 19.
AU on bands 1, 11 and 18.
Softbank on bands 1, 3 and 8.
The HTC 10 EMEA version is on bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40 and 41.
The US version is on bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29 and 30.
If you are on AU, you have only one band available whatever the HTC 10 version chosen.
If you are on Softbank, the EMEA version has all three bands covered.
With Docomo, either versions are possible (only two bands covered)

This was my main concern, if the HTC 10 EMEA would cover the LTE signal or not, hope it will work with my BiC SiM card, I am using Docomo carrier.
I am wondering if 2 bands are enough for a decent LTE signal thus, but if we really will have only 2 HTC 10 version, it should work..
Sent from my HTC One_M8

So... anyone in Japan purchased and rooted the HTC 10 (HTV32) yet? Just about ready to make the visit to the AU store and say sayonara to my M7. I have been looking for experiences on unlocking and rooting on Japanese sites... can't see anyone having done it as yet. I am guessing jcase's method (sticky on the HTC10 forum) will work with this one just as well, but always nice to see others do these things on the exact same version of device prior to diving in yourself (well, for relative noobs like myself, it is less nerve-wracking!)

androg said:
So... anyone in Japan purchased and rooted the HTC 10 (HTV32) yet? Just about ready to make the visit to the AU store and say sayonara to my M7. I have been looking for experiences on unlocking and rooting on Japanese sites... can't see anyone having done it as yet. I am guessing jcase's method (sticky on the HTC10 forum) will work with this one just as well, but always nice to see others do these things on the exact same version of device prior to diving in yourself (well, for relative noobs like myself, it is less nerve-wracking!)
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I bought my HTC 10 from Amazon and I noticed that it has been delivered from Taipei, of course Asia firmware.
No problem here working flawlessly, S-OFF, unlocked bootloader, Lee Droid ROM, ElementalX Kernel.
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk

Awesome - used the method I mentioned? (jcase) I assume it was already unlocked. Which carrier you using, btw? Amazon: might look into that.

Actually I don't even know what is "Jcase" method.
I always follow xda's guide.
I don't have a contract by the way, just using iijimio monthly sim card plan.
Edit: Sorry I forgot to tell you that the HTC 10 I bought is not the Japanese version you mentioned, here:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B0...pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=htc+10

No sure if this is the right thread but for the Japanese HTC 10 models, what keyboard is installed to input Japanese?
With US models, TouchPal is installed and that does not have a Japanese option.

Darkfire55 said:
No sure if this is the right thread but for the Japanese HTC 10 models, what keyboard is installed to input Japanese?
With US models, TouchPal is installed and that does not have a Japanese option.
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Touchpal does have Japanese input, I am actually using it.
Just click on top of the keyboard on the "world icon" and add Japanese.

ExMM said:
Touchpal does have Japanese input, I am actually using it.
Just click on top of the keyboard on the "world icon" and add Japanese.
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Mine doesn't seem to have it. Can you show me how you added Japanese? (Are you using a Japanese model of HTC 10?)
Thanks!

Letv le one pro x800

does this specific model number contain 4G-LTE grequency band B3(1800Mhz)
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Ibtisaam said:
does this specific model number contain 4G-LTE grequency band B3(1800Mhz)
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It supports:
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
B20 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#9439#*#*
B8 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#4636#*#*

BetaHydri said:
It supports:
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
B20 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#9439#*#*
B8 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#4636#*#*
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Is this the same model? Is it a good phone for the price still, the deal at the link below is very cheap.
http://www.tinydeal.com/letv-le-1-pro-55-2k-snapdragon-810-4gb-ram-64gb-rom-4g-phone-p-159277.html

Does anybody know how many hardware versions of the smartphone out there?
Or there is one and frequency selection is software dependent?

best deal at gearbest
You can buy at gearbest with 12 months warranty versus 6 months for less money, 164 euros with promo code "CellPhones8"
Hope it helps

I am a little confused here.
Both TD and gear best carry the 1 pro. Gearbest shows that the phone has band 7 (2600) and until today, tiny reflected that as well.
6 days after ordering from tinydeal, I have received an email from them stating the phone does NOT support band 7. Every other seller and device specification site says bands 3&7 are supported.
Finding official documentation has been a bit of a daunting task.
Advice, anyone?

I'm kind of confused about the phone, too. There seem to be three models floating around in stores, a regular one with bands B1/B3/B7/B38/B39/B40/B41, one with B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, and an International one with different bands listed as well. Yet the manufacturer only seems to list the B1/3/7/38/39/40/41 model. Is this true? Does the second model I listed with B2/4/5/17 have full AT&T LTE support in the US?

Im really not sure. Too many conflicting reports. I think I'm going to cancel my order in the morning. I asked about the bands on the official tech support Le forum, and they referred me to their Hong Kong forum while completely dodging the question.

Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here: http://cn.lemall.com/le_1pro/parameter.html
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?

Calebz said:
Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here:
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?
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I just received mine from Coolicool today. Popped in my Cricket sim card and LTE Discovery lists me as being connected to Band 17 right now. This must be an updated model, as it appears that the newly listed bands are correct. Maybe this is a sign that they're actually moving forward with releasing the phone in the US? If anyone suspects that LTE Discovery might be wrong, please point me to a better utility.
For the record, I purchased mine from Coolicool. As of today, all of the other models have been removed (the two with the different bands listed and the international version) and this is the sole model up for sale. It won't allow me to post a link because I'm new here, but it's the featured product on the upper right side of the screen.

ProppaT said:
I just received mine from Coolicool today. Popped in my Cricket sim card and LTE Discovery lists me as being connected to Band 17 right now. This must be an updated model, as it appears that the newly listed bands are correct. Maybe this is a sign that they're actually moving forward with releasing the phone in the US? If anyone suspects that LTE Discovery might be wrong, please point me to a better utility.
For the record, I purchased mine from Coolicool. As of today, all of the other models have been removed (the two with the different bands listed and the international version) and this is the sole model up for sale. It won't allow me to post a link because I'm new here, but it's the featured product on the upper right side of the screen.
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Can you unlock B20 band? Try this please.

laek.17 said:
Can you unlock B20 band? Try this please.
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The option is missing from the first menu. The second menu says CDMA and has a box you can check. I have no way of knowing what it did or if it works, as I don't live in an area that using Band 20. All I know is that I'm definitely getting Band 2 and 17, which haven't been available up until this new batch started shipping out apparently. The specs on the site I bought from specifically says no Band 20 support, so I'm guessing this doesn't work.

Calebz said:
Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here: http://cn.lemall.com/le_1pro/parameter.html
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?
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Have you got it yet?
Does the 3 and 7 bands work?

I received one today, bought in Tinydeal and can confirm that it works in the band 4 Tmobile.

Can you please share your experience with the new phone. Battery, hit, camera, games for more than 30 min.
Thanks

twd123 said:
Have you got it yet?
Does the 3 and 7 bands work?
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I cancelled the order, ordered another from gearbest that did indeed work on bands 3&7 ( 7 being the important one for me - Free mobile in central France). Sold it after a couple days because the phone was just too damned big and the software was a mess.
Actually thinking of buying another one as a spare. My Nexus 5 did something wonky yesterday and I don't want to have it fail and get caught in a situation where I don't have a phone.

Calebz said:
I cancelled the order, ordered another from gearbest that did indeed work on bands 3&7 ( 7 being the important one for me - Free mobile in central France). Sold it after a couple days because the phone was just too damned big and the software was a mess.
Actually thinking of buying another one as a spare. My Nexus 5 did something wonky yesterday and I don't want to have it fail and get caught in a situation where I don't have a phone.
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Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom

I looked on all official LeTV/ LeEco sites (Global, India, HK, China) but don't seem to be able to find an "international version". Does anyone know where to find official information rather than from resellers?

twd123 said:
Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom
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No, I decided not to order another one. I thought I could get past my dislike of 5.5 inch phones, but just too big for daily use for me. 5.2 inch seems to be the sweet spot, so that's where I'm focusing my attention at the moment - though that is presenting it's own set of challenges.
I'm using a nexus 5 at the moment. I would like a little better battery life and a little larger screen, but I'm not dying for a new phone at the moment.
If I do find myself in a spot where I have to replace my phone and I can't find a 5.2 inch that checks all the boxes (big one being budget), I'll probably just stick with a 5 inch phone.
Right now the top two are the xiaomi mi4c and the huawei p8.
I would rather go with an Mi5 or P9 but they're out of my price range.

twd123 said:
Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom
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scloss84 said:
I looked on all official LeTV/ LeEco sites (Global, India, HK, China) but don't seem to be able to find an "international version". Does anyone know where to find official information rather than from resellers?
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I don't think an official international version exists. At least thas what I gathered from talking to some LeTv support people on their forums. Everything sold outside of HK/China and India is considered gray market, as far as I can tell.