Is the g2's processor faster than the MT4G's processor? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got the G2 and I love it. I came from a vibrant which was lagging and freezing and still had 2.1. Regret buying that phone. But this phone is a beast. My friend got the mytouch thinking it was faster.
I still think the G2 is really fast, but which processor is faster.
If you can explain in detail that'd be great!
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Don't they have the same processor? Except the g2 is underclocked while the MT4G isn't?
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nivlac978 said:
Don't they have the same processor? Except the g2 is underclocked while the MT4G isn't?
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that's what I thought too

Cool stated somewhere in one of his previous OC threads that they were slightly different. Ill leave it at that since explaining is beyond my scope of knowledge.
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HTC G2 uses the MSM7230 as compared to the HTC MyTouch 4G's MSM8255.
"MSM7x30, MSM8x55 and QSD8x50A - all 3 variations share the same design, differs only by the clock speeds. These 3 variations run at 800MHz, 1.0GHz and 1.3GHz respectively. Each of these features Adreno 205 GPU which runs at significantly higher performance level than Adreno 200 found in the 1st generation Snapdragon processor."
Source: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...-gen-snapdragon-processors-how-fast-are-they/

joackie27 said:
HTC G2 uses the MSM7230 as compared to the HTC MyTouch 4G's MSM8255.
"MSM7x30, MSM8x55 and QSD8x50A - all 3 variations share the same design, differs only by the clock speeds. These 3 variations run at 800MHz, 1.0GHz and 1.3GHz respectively. Each of these features Adreno 205 GPU which runs at significantly higher performance level than Adreno 200 found in the 1st generation Snapdragon processor."
Source: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...-gen-snapdragon-processors-how-fast-are-they/
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More than likely this means that the silicon on each device is QC'd to a different tolerance. IE the minimum possible speed. As everyone knows each silicon chip has a range and it will meet a minimum clock speed stable. It has been shown that most G2's can be OC'd to 1.4 ish. We don't have kernel source yet for the Glacier. When we do we will see if it is better or the same.

The MT4G also has more RAM. 768MB vs G2's 512MB.

Superfrag said:
The MT4G also has more RAM. 768MB vs G2's 512MB.
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So what you're saying is... The MT4G is faster than the G2?

jjuice525 said:
So what you're saying is... The MT4G is faster than the G2?
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More RAM doesn't directly translate to more speed.

More RAM very nearly directly translates to more speed for 99% of usage time because there are less reads from flash memory. I don't know how noticable it would be though. Certainly not the marked improvement seen on PCs with normal hard drives.

yes but the sense ui takes more cpu/ram to run smoothly. atleast in theory. plus the mytouch hasnt been oc'd yet so we will see.

Anomaly said:
More RAM very nearly directly translates to more speed for 99% of usage time because there are less reads from flash memory. I don't know how noticable it would be though. Certainly not the marked improvement seen on PCs with normal hard drives.
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You are wrong.
The more RAM means you can load more stuff in RAM. Example in PC, You can open more Internet Explorer window.
But the speed is the same. Example.. we kill all background apps and both G2 (1ghz) and MT4G(1Ghz) will just run quadrant alone.. they should perform the same since the speed of their RAM are equal regardless of the amount.. example 512 vs 768.
The MT4G needs more RAM because the Sense UI is composed of useless bloatwares.

Na, MT4G won't run faster, but it'll be able to run more stuff at the same time.. like people above have explained.
But I really don't think we need that much RAM, currently.

Superfrag said:
Na, MT4G won't run faster, but it'll be able to run more stuff at the same time.. like people above have explained.
But I really don't think we need that much RAM, currently.
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true. but honestly, the only moment where you might be able to notice a slight speed difference is with numerous, and i mean a hell of a lot, of apps open in the background without killing them

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[Q] Mid-Range? Whatever...

http://androidandme.com/2010/06/new...s-all-other-android-phones-in-gpu-benchmarks/
I found this to be interesting and a bit odd that we have all of this talk about the "Mid-Range" Cpu at 600 Mhz but no talk about the GPU. Does anyone have some information on the GPU and if they are receiving similar scores in this category?
Can we officially stop calling this a "Mid-Range" phone if this turns out to be true?
Remember the phone is only 320x480 res vs the N1, Droids, etc 480x800+. That alone will greatly improve the performance (if same GPU).
IMO a Large res display is required for a high end phone too.. though a good one its still a mid level.
Please post this is the correct section.
mesajoejoe said:
Please post this is the correct section.
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This question is very relivant to the development of this device.
This all goes back to my mantra, lastest dont always mean the greatest. Hell, put it in this perspective...any woman would sacrifice an inch for better performance. I would much rather something do what its supposed to do and do it with blazing colors, than have something look pretty with all the bells and whistles and hiccup in comparison. Ive played with all the android phones from tmobile thus far, and the slide is by far my fav.
My reasoning behind throwing this in the development section was to hopefully find someone who could shed some more light on the GPU in this phone. I am sure that the pixel differences between this device and others are part of it but it seems as if more is going on in the background with this phone. Here are some questions this benchmark test brings up for discussion:
1.Is this GPU Open GL ES 2.0 capable?
2.Has Qualcomm opened up more possibilities with this GPU drivers compared to other phones?
3.It seems that this is an Adreno GPU, but which one? The Nexus has an Adreno also.
4.How much of this phone is hardware accelerated compared to other phones? I remember taking up the RAM from my G1's GPU to help run the main components of the phone, maybe this phone has a bit more help built in to it.
Let's all run to tmo and drop one so we can see what's inside! I for one just compaired it to the mt1.2 and it blows it away! The wife loaded up her baseball flash site and flipped at how fast it rendered the stuff. The screen res ain't got nothing to do with that. Maybe they fibbed on the cpu info so we wouldn't know. Or they got themselves one smart dev for software building.
Has anyone tried linpack tests yet?
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Has anyone tried linpack tests yet?
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Linpack is 2.6+ for the one i tested at the store.I think the CPU is honestly down-clocked from what it really is, for all we know it could go up to 800Mhz or 1GHz. When linpack ran there were some b/g apps open.
Re: Mid-Range? Whatever...
If you look at the power.xml in github for Wes Garners's developments on this phone you will see the option for 998mhz as the high end for this cpu. I'd imagine overclocking it will bring at least 1.3 to the table. No info on the GPU yet.
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mejorguille said:
Has anyone tried linpack tests yet?
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Yes. Mflops came out around 2.2. It needs to be tweaked severely but id assume this is due to the bloated processes and underclocking of the CPU.
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i dont understand why everyone is hating on this phone, my g1 is perfect. does what i need from android. and i like it over all. i never have problems with my processor. so this phone is a huge plus to me. although id love to make the sence ui on it a lil differnt, like the normal sence
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Yes. Mflops came out around 2.2. It needs to be tweaked severely but id assume this is due to the bloated processes and underclocking of the CPU.
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Really? That's very low in my opinion when a droid, also running a 600 Mhz get much higher, and my rooted g1 with cyan kernel 2.6.34 get 2.3-2.4 on linpack.
Wikipedia says that the mytouch slide has a MSM7227 processor compared with Snapdragons which are QSD8xxx series. Some google searches found that the 7227 is for "cheap", sub $150 smartphones. Here are the specs for the processor:
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The platform -- known as the MSM7227 -- is apparently designed with higher-power,
lower-cost handsets in mind, offering HSDPA / HSUPA radios, a 600MHz CPU, 320MHz
application DSP, 400MHz modem processor, hardware-accelerated 3D graphics, Bluetooth 2.1,
and GPS support integrated in a 12mm x 12mm chipset. The MSM7227 can also supposedly handle
8 megapixel camera and 30 FPS WVGA encoding / decoding with ease, and is capable of
supporting Android.
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Really? That's very low in my opinion when a droid, also running a 600 Mhz get much higher, and my rooted g1 with cyan kernel 2.6.34 get 2.3-2.4 on linpack.
Wikipedia says that the mytouch slide has a MSM7227 processor compared with Snapdragons which are QSD8xxx series. Some google searches found that the 7227 is for "cheap", sub $150 smartphones. Here are the specs for the processor:
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The platform -- known as the MSM7227 -- is apparently designed with higher-power,
lower-cost handsets in mind, offering HSDPA / HSUPA radios, a 600MHz CPU, 320MHz
application DSP, 400MHz modem processor, hardware-accelerated 3D graphics, Bluetooth 2.1,
and GPS support integrated in a 12mm x 12mm chipset. The MSM7227 can also supposedly handle
8 megapixel camera and 30 FPS WVGA encoding / decoding with ease, and is capable of
supporting Android.
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Well thats because the droid has a better processor (not speed but type) and the G1 is rooted and all the bloatware cut plus probably jit enabled plus swap/comcache. Besides that score seems rather low. I have a G1 and the MTS is way faster. I dont need a benchmark test to tell me that. Its definately as fast as my friends droid may be faster.
I know its been said before but it has the same gpu as the n1 for me that makes it all the proccessor i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5719829
neva dinova said:
I know its been said before but it has the same gpu as the n1 for me that makes it all the proccessor i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5719829
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Z51 said:
awesome
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either way, its better than the g1 and mt3g and even the 32a mt3g's.. when it gets rooted, this device will fly even moreso than it already does. bloatware be damned, we'll have it working wonders and fixing aids!*
aids may not actually be fixed by rooted slide
I know right. This morning I was looking at the running apps and saw the following that ran even if you cleanly booted it up:
* Visual Voicemail (don't get many VMs, so it's useless to me)
* Faves (useless)
* Swype (useless to me)
* IM (why is this even running?)
* AppPack (useless)
* My Account (useless)
Each of these apps take 20 MB or more.
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I know right. This morning I was looking at the running apps and saw the following that ran even if you cleanly booted it up:
* Visual Voicemail (don't get many VMs, so it's useless to me)
* Faves (useless)
* Swype (useless to me)
* IM (why is this even running?)
* AppPack (useless)
* My Account (useless)
Each of these apps take 20 MB or more.
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with a clean rom, we're gonna have so much extra space we'll have no need for a2sd

Overclocking higher

Any word yet on a higher clock speed than 1.15? Is it a stability problem? I sure thought this processor would atleast overclock to something like 1.3
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Considering the Moto Droid's 550mhz OMAP chip was over clocked to more than twice its speed to 1.2ghz you'd think our phone could easily handle 1.5mhz or more but Snapdragon chips aren't looking capable of such feat. Personally I'm not impressed with our chip's performance when compared with OMAP or Humming Bird chips. Its one reason I'm considering the DX or Samsung Galaxy S (Fascinate).
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I agree man. I'm all about the dx as long as it can can be rooted to use custom roms, if not ill wait for fascinate. Kinda sucks when my buddy with his droid is running way faster than me hhaha, I'm getting 11 on linpack, he's around 19 and 20.
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I saved an old kernel released the day after everything got rooted that's 1228. Its very unstable, i can run a good linpack, but my battery drains FAST plus it heats up rapidly. Give things time, it will speed up
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I also have a droid and one thing i will say is that yes it blows my DInc away on linpack and quadrant but honestly doesn't feel anywhere near as fast. To me all of those benchmarks don't relate to real world use, well, maybe quadrant, and with tht said my only dissapointment in this phone is lack of a better GPU
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I honestly don't think I'll ever buy another phone with a Qualcomm chip. They peddled the same 400mhz and 528mhz MSM7xxx chips for years and worked on the "next big thing" and on paper it sounded great but by the time they released it Texas Instrument and Samsung had already surpassed them.
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I honestly don't think I'll ever buy another phone with a Qualcomm chip. They peddled the same 400mhz and 528mhz MSM7xxx chips for years and worked on the "next big thing" and on paper it sounded great but by the time they released it Texas Instrument and Samsung had already surpassed them.
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+1 on that! I'm waiting for motorola's dual-core phone, Texas Instrument Chip this year with a front facing camera!
or you could look at this way.....
celerons can be overclocked way more than regular pentium's, but celerons are not superior.
You are not going to get very many Inc's if any to hit 1.3. The newer Snapdragon with a smaller die will do it, but not ours.
I have overclocked a lot of cpu's but this phone is the last thing I want to worry about clocking up. The gain is so minute that it's simply not worth the trouble/effort and it's not worth damaging the phone. I'd rather put energy into testing roms/themes etc. If anything I'd rather underclock it a bit.

[Q] Over clocking on the g2

Are you guys planning to make kernal that runs from 1.6ghz to 2.0 ghz?
I managed to get 1.7GHz going but due to reasons of sanity/safety I will not personally be releasing a kernel that is capable of that. Another dev can use my source and easily modify it for those speeds.
Well hopefully one of u developer backup a file for us because i want to run faster then 1.4ghz.
I've been able to reach 1.4 GHz but is unstable for me. 1 GHz is fine and I think there's not much gain/benefit from it getting any faster. We'll end up comparing how things boot/run in miliseconds and then complain about it.
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I guess but i want the speed so i can trash talk to iphone users some more.
add119 said:
I guess but i want the speed so i can trash talk to iphone users some more.
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No need for trash talking, let the numbers do the talking =D
Although there is an iphone fan boy in my Chemistry class that deserves it lol.
I doubt we'll see 2Ghz, but who am I to say we cant?
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I've been able to reach 1.4 GHz but is unstable for me. 1 GHz is fine and I think there's not much gain/benefit from it getting any faster. We'll end up comparing how things boot/run in miliseconds and then complain about it.
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I notice the benefit from 1ghz to 1.4ghz for certain apps, especially emulators like psx4droid. There is a big difference in sound and overall smoothness.
Word u should go show off the speed that your phone is at. Dont tell him that your rooted lolz
I wouldnt be surprise that the g2 get that speed. Remember the old g1 got to 825mhz and original droid got up to 1.4 ghz from it 600mhz cortex processor.
It very possible that the g2 will be at least 1.7 to 1.8 ghz.

Why can't our phone run HTC sense 3.5 smoothly?

I just can't figure out why our desire z cannot run sense 3.5 smoothly.
Htc sensation XL: 1.5 Ghz, Adreno 205, 768mb RAM
My Desire Z: overclocked 1.5 Ghz, Adreno 205, 512mb RAM and 256mb swap
I'm thinking GPU issue here, the sensation xl can scroll rosie smoothly without needing ultra smooth patch.
Any way to improve gpu performance?
And even after activating swap, the phone doesn't really uses it to its full potential, it only uses up around 10% of the swap partition.
Any ideas to encourage the phone to maximize the use of the swap partition?
There is a lot more to CPU performance than clock frequency. The CPU on the Sensation XL is dual core, and probably a completely different architecture. I fully expect a 1.5 GHz dual core CPU to run circles around the G2/DZ's CPU, regardless of how much you OC it.
redpoint73 said:
There is a lot more to CPU performance than clock frequency. The CPU on the Sensation XL is dual core, and probably a completely different architecture. I fully expect a 1.5 GHz dual core CPU to run circles around the G2/DZ's CPU, regardless of how much you OC it.
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sensation XL is single core, same as DESIRE HD but higher clock
xT4Z1N4TRx said:
sensation XL is single core, same as DESIRE HD but higher clock
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Still, the G2/DZ is MSM7230, and the XL is MSM8255. Even if single core, its a newer generation and not the same chip. And even so, a overclocked CPU is never going to perform as well as one that is factory clocked to the same GHz.
It is the same generation of processors, the one on the desire z just have a lower clock speed. Even with overclocked 2ghz, I can't get as smooth as sensation xl
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Still, the G2/DZ is MSM7230, and the XL is MSM8255. Even if single core, its a newer generation and not the same chip. And even so, a overclocked CPU is never going to perform as well as one that is factory clocked to the same GHz.
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Actually, if the only difference between two CPUs is the frequency, the overclocked one should out perform the stock one since overclocking boosts data buses as well.
So, in theory, my desire z should be better at running sense 3.5 then htc sensation xl?
sebastianlow said:
So, in theory, my desire z should be better at running sense 3.5 then htc sensation xl?
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No because the Sensation XL has 768MB of RAM....Desire Z has 384MB (Advertised as 512MB but not all is seen by OS)
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Actually, if the only difference between two CPUs is the frequency, the overclocked one should out perform the stock one since overclocking boosts data buses as well.
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Wouldn't that be assuming the CPU on the Sensation XL can't be overclocked at all? Seems like a poor comparison. I'd still bank on the 1.5 GHz factory clocked CPU over an 800 MHz one.
Sense 3.5 does run smooth for me. The only bad thing really is loading apps, and that's cuz of ram
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Wouldn't that be assuming the CPU on the Sensation XL can't be overclocked at all? Seems like a poor comparison. I'd still bank on the 1.5 GHz factory clocked CPU over an 800 MHz one.
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I wasn't talking about the sensetion XL vs Desire Z. Their CPUs have architectural differences beyond the stock frequencies. Even if you overclock the desire Z to 1.5 GHZ, there are other factors like double channel for RAM etc.
Sensetion XL has a more powerful core with more advanced features. This is why clocking our phones to 1.5 is not giving the performance of Sensetion XL.
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Wouldn't that be assuming the CPU on the Sensation XL can't be overclocked at all? Seems like a poor comparison. I'd still bank on the 1.5 GHz factory clocked CPU over an 800 MHz one.
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What u mean not all is seen by OS? I thought the 384mb is usable ram and the others were system resources?
My older desire has 576mb of ram, but shows 404 usable.
And also, doesn't swap give more ram?
Does vm heapsize help with making Rosie smoother? Mine is 48m for now..
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sebastianlow said:
What u mean not all is seen by OS? I thought the 384mb is usable ram and the others were system resources?
My older desire has 576mb of ram, but shows 404 usable.
And also, doesn't swap give more ram?
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Swap do give more ram,but a slow one..since its not from the hardware ram its just virtual ram..I said it slow because Android only use it when the real ram is running out..correct me if I'm wrong, srry for my English XD hope I do help =)
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Steven How said:
Swap do give more ram,but a slow one..since its not from the hardware ram its just virtual ram..I said it slow because Android only use it when the real ram is running out.correct me if I'm wrong, srry for my English XD hope I do help =)
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I use sense 3.5 on the virtuous afinity rom 1.48.1 and ist verry smoothly!
I use also the romcleaner bevor and moved by titanium some other app from my DZ.
Its for me the best combination without a ext3 part on the SD.
Greetings ivi
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Smooth sense 3.5
I run Chef's RCmix 4.0 Energized blue edition as of today with supercharger script set to option 8. Very smooth, much better than stock. Remove some unnecessary apps, play with the Energy setting and you're good to go. No swap needed (at least for now).
+1 for virtuous affinity. Runs smooth from stock but with a few very simple tweaks it is very slick. Start with installing 4ext and partition/format everything as ext4. Then install the rom and enable the swap partition. With a mild OC of 1Ghz I find everything beautifully smooth without needing to use the 'smooth rosie' features in the settings.
Im now running Mik runny
I have All 7 pages full of widgets
120+ apps
supercharger option 7
supercharger 13
lagnullifier
swap
oc 1.5 ondemand
class 4 sd card
LAGGY
(Virtuous affinity is the most laggy for me)
(I can NEVER get a smooth unlock animation, NEVER)
sebastianlow said:
LAGGY
(Virtuous affinity is the most laggy for me)
(I can NEVER get a smooth unlock animation, NEVER)
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I never liked the unlock animation... Got that disabled since I feel like it's a waste of resource and time... The lock animation is ok for me though....

Will an Overclock to 1.7+gHZ be available?

I need it cuz I'll get a ONE x+ which has 1.7 preloaded. Also with loop device pls?
ATT PLS!
HTC one and a half still isn't as fast as the 4 core krait LG
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HTC one and a half still isn't as fast as the 4 core krait LG
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But I need 1.7 for special purposes.
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. There is zero reason that you"must" have a 1.7GHz instead of a 1.5GHz regardless of which system is actually faster.
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dbgeek said:
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. There is zero reason that you"must" have a 1.7GHz instead of a 1.5GHz regardless of which system is actually faster.
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Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
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Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
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.... and 1.7 GHz is required for that, regardless of the chip architecture? I'm not a computer engineer, but I know that a 2.0GHz Celeron processor can't do anything faster or better than a 1.5 GHz i5 (even if there is a bigger number in front of the "GHz"). Processor speed only matter if you are talking about the same chip architecture.
btw... there's no need for name calling.
dbgeek said:
.... and 1.7 GHz is required for that, regardless of the chip architecture? I'm not a computer engineer, but I know that a 2.0GHz Celeron processor can't do anything faster or better than a 1.5 GHz i5 (even if there is a bigger number in front of the "GHz"). Processor speed only matter if you are talking about the same chip architecture.
btw... there's no need for name calling.
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The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
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The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
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So... If I had a CPU that ran at 1.5GHz, there's no way the game could run on it, even if the processor/system is 1,000 times as powerful? Something simply doesn't sound "right" about that. We're not talking about requiring wavelengths of light syncing up or frequency of signal (if we were then computers of different frequencies could never "talk" to each other).
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so the CPU requirements on Team Fortress 2 states
"Minimum: 1.7 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM, DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE), Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connectiond
Recommended: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better), 1GB RAM, DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card, Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection"
EDIT: I neglected to add.... And if the game requires something above what current phone processors can do, 1.7GHz has NOTHING to do with it.
You understand that both of the phones that you are considering have a more powerful CPU than a Pentium 4 (which is 12 year old architecture), right?
awesomehacker said:
The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
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SO lets say u got a game and it needs i3 @ 3Ghz to run and you got i7 @ 2.8Ghz so your saying it wont RUN ROFL?
awesomehacker said:
Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
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Sorry to burst your bubble but even with steam coming to Linux its only x86 not arm, and opengl not egl.
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dbgeek said:
So... If I had a CPU that ran at 1.5GHz, there's no way the game could run on it, even if the processor/system is 1,000 times as powerful? Something simply doesn't sound "right" about that. We're not talking about requiring wavelengths of light syncing up or frequency of signal (if we were then computers of different frequencies could never "talk" to each other).
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so the CPU requirements on Team Fortress 2 states
"Minimum: 1.7 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM, DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE), Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connectiond
Recommended: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better), 1GB RAM, DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card, Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection"
EDIT: I neglected to add.... And if the game requires something above what current phone processors can do, 1.7GHz has NOTHING to do with it.
You understand that both of the phones that you are considering have a more powerful CPU than a Pentium 4 (which is 12 year old architecture), right?
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... and notice that the RAM in the phones is 4X the minimum required.
While we're on this topic, the GPU is far more likely to be your limiting parameter, than the CPU. You need to research that aspect (the GPU's in phones aren't designed to run TV's esp today's large form HD TV's).
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... and notice that the RAM in the phones is 4X the minimum required.
While we're on this topic, the GPU is far more likely to be your limiting parameter, than the CPU. You need to research that aspect (the GPU's in phones aren't designed to run TV's esp today's large form HD TV's).
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I have my phone rooted and would like to now overclock the CPU to 1.7GHZ just for the heck of it. I know the negative affects this can have on my CPU so I don't need a preaching. How can I do this?
Thanks!
loool
build a kernel with OC features
02transam said:
I have my phone rooted and would like to now overclock the CPU to 1.7GHZ just for the heck of it. I know the negative affects this can have on my CPU so I don't need a preaching. How can I do this?
Thanks!
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Was playing around with LiquidSmooth, RootBox, and Houcha kernel in April. Also ended up purchasing FauxClock.
Some combination of those on some date allowed a CPU overclock to 1.7 GHz and GPU overclock to 487 MHz.
Wasn't interested in the overclock capability, so didn't mark down the dates or versions. But it's definitely possible.
Sent through the magic of an LG Optimus G (E971) running RootBox 4.2.2.
phoenix_rizzen said:
Was playing around with LiquidSmooth, RootBox, and Houcha kernel in April. Also ended up purchasing FauxClock.
Some combination of those on some date allowed a CPU overclock to 1.7 GHz and GPU overclock to 487 MHz.
Wasn't interested in the overclock capability, so didn't mark down the dates or versions. But it's definitely possible.
Sent through the magic of an LG Optimus G (E971) running RootBox 4.2.2.
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It's is possible yet useless with our phone. Also, our chip doesn't like overclocking at all. Finally, the worth of energy loss vs performance gain is not good enough to justify using overclock.
Totally agree with you chad.
On this device oc is useless,you don't compare overclocking a galaxy s with an optimus g.
Not to mention it's not that easy,to find the proper voltage/freqs table.too much work "just for the heck of it".
Sent from LG E975 pwd by CM 10.1
Thanks for the responses. My old galaxy was a hoot to overclock and i just guess i miss that.
chadouming said:
It's is possible yet useless with our phone. Also, our chip doesn't like overclocking at all. Finally, the worth of energy loss vs performance gain is not good enough to justify using overclock.
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Never said it was useful, just that it was possible.
Once you get above 1Ghz dual-core Cortex-A9/Krait/A7, everything is gravy, and it's the GPU or memory controller that becomes the bottleneck. Just look at how poorly the Tegra3 is...mainly due to crappy GPU and limited memory bandwidth.
Sent through the magic of an LG Optimus G (E971) running RootBox 4.2.2.
I just bought the faux 123 app hoping it would let me overclock the cpu but it wont. Everything i have tried wont let me go past the factory 1.5ghz.
02transam said:
I just bought the faux 123 app hoping it would let me overclock the cpu but it wont. Everything i have tried wont let me go past the factory 1.5ghz.
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a kernel which supports OC is needed.
you can buy all cpu tools and no one will let you overclock the cpu without OC features. haha rofl
and there is NO kernel for OC available and i hope it never will be

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