I need it cuz I'll get a ONE x+ which has 1.7 preloaded. Also with loop device pls?
ATT PLS!
HTC one and a half still isn't as fast as the 4 core krait LG
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HTC one and a half still isn't as fast as the 4 core krait LG
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But I need 1.7 for special purposes.
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. There is zero reason that you"must" have a 1.7GHz instead of a 1.5GHz regardless of which system is actually faster.
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Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. There is zero reason that you"must" have a 1.7GHz instead of a 1.5GHz regardless of which system is actually faster.
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Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
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Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
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.... and 1.7 GHz is required for that, regardless of the chip architecture? I'm not a computer engineer, but I know that a 2.0GHz Celeron processor can't do anything faster or better than a 1.5 GHz i5 (even if there is a bigger number in front of the "GHz"). Processor speed only matter if you are talking about the same chip architecture.
btw... there's no need for name calling.
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.... and 1.7 GHz is required for that, regardless of the chip architecture? I'm not a computer engineer, but I know that a 2.0GHz Celeron processor can't do anything faster or better than a 1.5 GHz i5 (even if there is a bigger number in front of the "GHz"). Processor speed only matter if you are talking about the same chip architecture.
btw... there's no need for name calling.
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The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
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The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
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So... If I had a CPU that ran at 1.5GHz, there's no way the game could run on it, even if the processor/system is 1,000 times as powerful? Something simply doesn't sound "right" about that. We're not talking about requiring wavelengths of light syncing up or frequency of signal (if we were then computers of different frequencies could never "talk" to each other).
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so the CPU requirements on Team Fortress 2 states
"Minimum: 1.7 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM, DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE), Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connectiond
Recommended: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better), 1GB RAM, DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card, Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection"
EDIT: I neglected to add.... And if the game requires something above what current phone processors can do, 1.7GHz has NOTHING to do with it.
You understand that both of the phones that you are considering have a more powerful CPU than a Pentium 4 (which is 12 year old architecture), right?
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The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
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SO lets say u got a game and it needs i3 @ 3Ghz to run and you got i7 @ 2.8Ghz so your saying it wont RUN ROFL?
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Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
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Sorry to burst your bubble but even with steam coming to Linux its only x86 not arm, and opengl not egl.
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So... If I had a CPU that ran at 1.5GHz, there's no way the game could run on it, even if the processor/system is 1,000 times as powerful? Something simply doesn't sound "right" about that. We're not talking about requiring wavelengths of light syncing up or frequency of signal (if we were then computers of different frequencies could never "talk" to each other).
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so the CPU requirements on Team Fortress 2 states
"Minimum: 1.7 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM, DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE), Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connectiond
Recommended: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better), 1GB RAM, DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card, Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection"
EDIT: I neglected to add.... And if the game requires something above what current phone processors can do, 1.7GHz has NOTHING to do with it.
You understand that both of the phones that you are considering have a more powerful CPU than a Pentium 4 (which is 12 year old architecture), right?
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... and notice that the RAM in the phones is 4X the minimum required.
While we're on this topic, the GPU is far more likely to be your limiting parameter, than the CPU. You need to research that aspect (the GPU's in phones aren't designed to run TV's esp today's large form HD TV's).
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... and notice that the RAM in the phones is 4X the minimum required.
While we're on this topic, the GPU is far more likely to be your limiting parameter, than the CPU. You need to research that aspect (the GPU's in phones aren't designed to run TV's esp today's large form HD TV's).
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I have my phone rooted and would like to now overclock the CPU to 1.7GHZ just for the heck of it. I know the negative affects this can have on my CPU so I don't need a preaching. How can I do this?
Thanks!
loool
build a kernel with OC features
02transam said:
I have my phone rooted and would like to now overclock the CPU to 1.7GHZ just for the heck of it. I know the negative affects this can have on my CPU so I don't need a preaching. How can I do this?
Thanks!
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Was playing around with LiquidSmooth, RootBox, and Houcha kernel in April. Also ended up purchasing FauxClock.
Some combination of those on some date allowed a CPU overclock to 1.7 GHz and GPU overclock to 487 MHz.
Wasn't interested in the overclock capability, so didn't mark down the dates or versions. But it's definitely possible.
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Was playing around with LiquidSmooth, RootBox, and Houcha kernel in April. Also ended up purchasing FauxClock.
Some combination of those on some date allowed a CPU overclock to 1.7 GHz and GPU overclock to 487 MHz.
Wasn't interested in the overclock capability, so didn't mark down the dates or versions. But it's definitely possible.
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It's is possible yet useless with our phone. Also, our chip doesn't like overclocking at all. Finally, the worth of energy loss vs performance gain is not good enough to justify using overclock.
Totally agree with you chad.
On this device oc is useless,you don't compare overclocking a galaxy s with an optimus g.
Not to mention it's not that easy,to find the proper voltage/freqs table.too much work "just for the heck of it".
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Thanks for the responses. My old galaxy was a hoot to overclock and i just guess i miss that.
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It's is possible yet useless with our phone. Also, our chip doesn't like overclocking at all. Finally, the worth of energy loss vs performance gain is not good enough to justify using overclock.
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Never said it was useful, just that it was possible.
Once you get above 1Ghz dual-core Cortex-A9/Krait/A7, everything is gravy, and it's the GPU or memory controller that becomes the bottleneck. Just look at how poorly the Tegra3 is...mainly due to crappy GPU and limited memory bandwidth.
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I just bought the faux 123 app hoping it would let me overclock the cpu but it wont. Everything i have tried wont let me go past the factory 1.5ghz.
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I just bought the faux 123 app hoping it would let me overclock the cpu but it wont. Everything i have tried wont let me go past the factory 1.5ghz.
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a kernel which supports OC is needed.
you can buy all cpu tools and no one will let you overclock the cpu without OC features. haha rofl
and there is NO kernel for OC available and i hope it never will be
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Are you guys planning to make kernal that runs from 1.6ghz to 2.0 ghz?
I managed to get 1.7GHz going but due to reasons of sanity/safety I will not personally be releasing a kernel that is capable of that. Another dev can use my source and easily modify it for those speeds.
Well hopefully one of u developer backup a file for us because i want to run faster then 1.4ghz.
I've been able to reach 1.4 GHz but is unstable for me. 1 GHz is fine and I think there's not much gain/benefit from it getting any faster. We'll end up comparing how things boot/run in miliseconds and then complain about it.
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I guess but i want the speed so i can trash talk to iphone users some more.
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I guess but i want the speed so i can trash talk to iphone users some more.
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No need for trash talking, let the numbers do the talking =D
Although there is an iphone fan boy in my Chemistry class that deserves it lol.
I doubt we'll see 2Ghz, but who am I to say we cant?
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I've been able to reach 1.4 GHz but is unstable for me. 1 GHz is fine and I think there's not much gain/benefit from it getting any faster. We'll end up comparing how things boot/run in miliseconds and then complain about it.
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I notice the benefit from 1ghz to 1.4ghz for certain apps, especially emulators like psx4droid. There is a big difference in sound and overall smoothness.
Word u should go show off the speed that your phone is at. Dont tell him that your rooted lolz
I wouldnt be surprise that the g2 get that speed. Remember the old g1 got to 825mhz and original droid got up to 1.4 ghz from it 600mhz cortex processor.
It very possible that the g2 will be at least 1.7 to 1.8 ghz.
I just got the G2 and I love it. I came from a vibrant which was lagging and freezing and still had 2.1. Regret buying that phone. But this phone is a beast. My friend got the mytouch thinking it was faster.
I still think the G2 is really fast, but which processor is faster.
If you can explain in detail that'd be great!
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Don't they have the same processor? Except the g2 is underclocked while the MT4G isn't?
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Don't they have the same processor? Except the g2 is underclocked while the MT4G isn't?
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that's what I thought too
Cool stated somewhere in one of his previous OC threads that they were slightly different. Ill leave it at that since explaining is beyond my scope of knowledge.
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HTC G2 uses the MSM7230 as compared to the HTC MyTouch 4G's MSM8255.
"MSM7x30, MSM8x55 and QSD8x50A - all 3 variations share the same design, differs only by the clock speeds. These 3 variations run at 800MHz, 1.0GHz and 1.3GHz respectively. Each of these features Adreno 205 GPU which runs at significantly higher performance level than Adreno 200 found in the 1st generation Snapdragon processor."
Source: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...-gen-snapdragon-processors-how-fast-are-they/
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HTC G2 uses the MSM7230 as compared to the HTC MyTouch 4G's MSM8255.
"MSM7x30, MSM8x55 and QSD8x50A - all 3 variations share the same design, differs only by the clock speeds. These 3 variations run at 800MHz, 1.0GHz and 1.3GHz respectively. Each of these features Adreno 205 GPU which runs at significantly higher performance level than Adreno 200 found in the 1st generation Snapdragon processor."
Source: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...-gen-snapdragon-processors-how-fast-are-they/
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More than likely this means that the silicon on each device is QC'd to a different tolerance. IE the minimum possible speed. As everyone knows each silicon chip has a range and it will meet a minimum clock speed stable. It has been shown that most G2's can be OC'd to 1.4 ish. We don't have kernel source yet for the Glacier. When we do we will see if it is better or the same.
The MT4G also has more RAM. 768MB vs G2's 512MB.
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The MT4G also has more RAM. 768MB vs G2's 512MB.
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So what you're saying is... The MT4G is faster than the G2?
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So what you're saying is... The MT4G is faster than the G2?
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More RAM doesn't directly translate to more speed.
More RAM very nearly directly translates to more speed for 99% of usage time because there are less reads from flash memory. I don't know how noticable it would be though. Certainly not the marked improvement seen on PCs with normal hard drives.
yes but the sense ui takes more cpu/ram to run smoothly. atleast in theory. plus the mytouch hasnt been oc'd yet so we will see.
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More RAM very nearly directly translates to more speed for 99% of usage time because there are less reads from flash memory. I don't know how noticable it would be though. Certainly not the marked improvement seen on PCs with normal hard drives.
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You are wrong.
The more RAM means you can load more stuff in RAM. Example in PC, You can open more Internet Explorer window.
But the speed is the same. Example.. we kill all background apps and both G2 (1ghz) and MT4G(1Ghz) will just run quadrant alone.. they should perform the same since the speed of their RAM are equal regardless of the amount.. example 512 vs 768.
The MT4G needs more RAM because the Sense UI is composed of useless bloatwares.
Na, MT4G won't run faster, but it'll be able to run more stuff at the same time.. like people above have explained.
But I really don't think we need that much RAM, currently.
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Na, MT4G won't run faster, but it'll be able to run more stuff at the same time.. like people above have explained.
But I really don't think we need that much RAM, currently.
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true. but honestly, the only moment where you might be able to notice a slight speed difference is with numerous, and i mean a hell of a lot, of apps open in the background without killing them
Hello.
My friend say that he can over clock this thing to 1.5 ghz but i don't believe him.
So what is the maximum clock speed?
800mhz and it's unstable.
Your friend is bullshitting. No way can a lower end single core be clocked that fast, it would simply just burn out.
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Hello.
My friend say that he can over clock this thing to 1.5 ghz but i don't believe him.
So what is the maximum clock speed?
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+1 and A very very big lie of your friend
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You can't oveclock over 800 mhz. Ok maybe i lie, you can overclock over 800 mhz but it be hot like sun in core. sorry for my English
imlgl said:
800mhz and it's unstable.
Your friend is bullshitting. No way can a lower end single core be clocked that fast, it would simply just burn out.
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Hahahahaha... Your wrong. My MARVEL is totally stable and well... read my signature
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Hahahahaha... Your wrong. My MARVEL is totally stable and well... read my signature
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There is absolutely no rule of thumb for overclocking.
One CPU might handle 800+ MHz (806 MHz seems to be reached by benjamingwynn - nice speed!) and other might handle only 760-780 MHz stable for example. Don't forget that overclocking isn't an exact science. It more like an art!
It depends on many variables: the batch, the place in the wafer where you CPU came from, the voltage you're pumping, the cooling provided, etc.
Some CPU's don't need much voltage in order to scale speed, others need a big voltage increase in order to handle the extra speed. And there are others that simply don't scale well and can only handle weak overclocks.
And of course there is always a theoretical limit.
Anyone who says that he/she can overclock a 600MHz CPU to 1.5GHz lies with all the teeth and is an ignorant, with all due respect.
I know no CPU in the world that can overclock to 150%. Not even with extreme cooling (Liquid Nitrogen or other Subzero solutions) and other crazy mods. Now imagine this on a small device like a smartphone, where you can't properly change the cooling of the CPU in order to cope with the extra heat generated.
The phone would most likely burn in smokes.
I know a little bit about this matter because I have experience in overclocking PC CPU's. I know most about Intel CPU's (Dual and Quad-Cores, still haven't touched a hexa-core...), cooled on air or with liquid cooling.
The PC I work with every day has a Quad-Core CPU that is 3.2 GHz stock (QX9770) and is running at 4 GHz. It can handle more but the extra heat and voltage needed isn't worth the extra speed (and the accelerated degradation of the CPU).
Sorry for the offtopic guys but I had to reply to this anecdote.
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There is absolutely no rule of thumb for overclocking.
One CPU might handle 800+ MHz (806 MHz seems to be reached) and other might handle only 766 MHz stable for example. Don't forget that overclocking isn't an exact science. It more like an art!
It depends on many variables: the batch, the place in the wafer where you CPU came from, the voltage you're pumping, the cooling provided, etc.
Some CPU's don't need much voltage in order to scale speed, others need a big voltage increase in order to handle the extra speed. And there are others that simply don't scale well and handle weak overclocks.
And of course there is always a theoretical limit.
Anyone who says that he/she can overclock a 600MHz CPU to 1.5GHz lies with all the teeth and is an ignorant, with all due respect.
There is no CPU in the world that can overclock to 150%. Not even with extreme cooling (Liquid Nitrogen or other Subzero solutions) and other crazy mods. Now imagine this on a small device like a smartphone, where you can't properly change the cooling of the CPU in order to cope with the extra heat generated.
The phone would most likely burn in smokes.
I know a little bit about this matter because I have experience in overclocking PC CPU's. I know most about Intel CPU's (Dual and Quad-Cores, still haven't touched a hexa-core...), cooled on air or with liquid cooling.
The PC I work with every day has a Quad-Core CPU that is 3.2 GHz stock (QX9770) and is running at 4 GHz. It can handle more but the extra heat and voltage needed isn't worth the extra speed (and the accelerated degradation of the CPU).
Sorry for the offtopic guys but I had to reply to this anecdote.
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Totally agree.
great explanation for anyone wondering why their device won't overclock like somebody else's.
miguelca said:
There is absolutely no rule of thumb for overclocking.
One CPU might handle 800+ MHz (806 MHz seems to be reached by benjamingwynn - nice speed!) and other might handle only 760-780 MHz stable for example. Don't forget that overclocking isn't an exact science. It more like an art!
It depends on many variables: the batch, the place in the wafer where you CPU came from, the voltage you're pumping, the cooling provided, etc.
Some CPU's don't need much voltage in order to scale speed, others need a big voltage increase in order to handle the extra speed. And there are others that simply don't scale well and can only handle weak overclocks.
And of course there is always a theoretical limit.
Anyone who says that he/she can overclock a 600MHz CPU to 1.5GHz lies with all the teeth and is an ignorant, with all due respect.
I know no CPU in the world that can overclock to 150%. Not even with extreme cooling (Liquid Nitrogen or other Subzero solutions) and other crazy mods. Now imagine this on a small device like a smartphone, where you can't properly change the cooling of the CPU in order to cope with the extra heat generated.
The phone would most likely burn in smokes.
I know a little bit about this matter because I have experience in overclocking PC CPU's. I know most about Intel CPU's (Dual and Quad-Cores, still haven't touched a hexa-core...), cooled on air or with liquid cooling.
The PC I work with every day has a Quad-Core CPU that is 3.2 GHz stock (QX9770) and is running at 4 GHz. It can handle more but the extra heat and voltage needed isn't worth the extra speed (and the accelerated degradation of the CPU).
Sorry for the offtopic guys but I had to reply to this anecdote.
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Well said. This is very off topic but how would you overclock on windows? You have to mess about with the kernel right?
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Normally from the BIOS.
But you can also overclock from within windows using certain applications.
BIOS is the better option.
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Normally from the BIOS.
But you can also overclock from within windows using certain applications.
BIOS is the better option.
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I got a laptop and I bet you haven't seen the BIOS setup on a Sininia 510 or you would break down crying.
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I got a laptop and I bet you haven't seen the BIOS setup on a Sininia 510 or you would break down crying.
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A lot of laptops have crippled bios's so there is no overclock options mainly due to the heat/cooling factor.
Laptops run pretty hot already.
Does your laptop have any overclock/frequency Settings?
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Well said. This is very off topic but how would you overclock on windows? You have to mess about with the kernel right?
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All the finetuning (voltages and so on) is done in the BIOS. My motherboard is actually designed for overclocking.
It's an "old" Asus Rampage Extreme.
You would be amazed with the amount of settings it has!
It also comes with Windows software that allows some realtime adjustments but the "core" lies in the BIOS.
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You can't oveclock over 800 mhz. Ok maybe i lie, you can overclock over 800 mhz but it be hot like sun in core. sorry for my English
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806 here and never frozen once in months...Runs cool too. Once of the lucky ones I guess.
Yep I'm in the 806 club too.
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Yep I'm in the 806 club too.
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Mine also runes ok with 806 setting
miguelca i'am on 1055t oc'ed to 3.9 24h...(hyper 212+ push-pull)
I'm running on 768 and it is fast enough. You can feel that the device gets warmer with 806 and needs a bit more battery.
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Mine also runes ok with 806 setting
miguelca i'am on 1055t oc'ed to 3.9 24h...(hyper 212+ push-pull)
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Nice OC aigaming! but never forget that CPU's do degrade over time, even if some people tell you the contrary.
If you keep your CPU cool and don't give it too much voltage to "eat", then everything should be fine for a long time. Still don't abuse it too much, this is my personal advice.
You have a nice cooler and with a push pull config it should keep things cool.
Mine is an old Tuniq Tower 120 (copper block lapped by me when I still had lots of patience) with the stock fan changed. I don't use the fan controller that came with the cooler btw.
My CPU used to be cooled on liquid but I have a way too limited case in order to accomodate the radiators, pump, reservatory, etc. Sold all the gear.
Keeping my beast at 4GHz on air is VERY NICE.
Once again sorry for the offtopic guys. I had to reply to this. I know I could have used a PM but I'm in a hurry.
I wish the HTC 2.3.5 RUU would have a kernel with overclock option for the CPU...
Anyone available to change the HTC RUU with an overclockable kernel?
Or am I saying nonsense? Probably CRC check would fail and I could only flash it with temp-root, right?
Would really appreciate being able to push my CPU just a little bit more...
The only single-cores I know of that can actually reach 1.5Ghz overclocked are devices running a Qualcomm MSM7x30 (Desire Z) or an MSM8255 (Desire HD/Xperia Play/Sensation XL [stock speed, same processor]/etc).
Good day I have rooted mt tab 3 5200 and tried to set the cpu to 1600mhz but am only getting 1333mhz. Is there a problem with my device as all the specs i come across says 1.6ghz and am only getting 1.3ghz
Use trickster mod and use lock frequency
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Use trickster mod and use lock frequency
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Are you sure about this? Because checking the kernel sources I see that p52XX's Intel Atom Z2560 does not allow such thing so if it is working it's something near to a placebo effect which will cause the CPU to make constant peaks at 1600mHz rather than work like on a performance governor. We need a custom kernel for such thing to work as described.
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Are you sure about this? Because checking the kernel sources I see that p52XX's Intel Atom Z2560 does not allow such thing so if it is working it's something near to a placebo effect which will cause the CPU to make constant peaks at 1600mHz rather than work like on a performance governor. We need a custom kernel for such thing to work as described.
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You have to do this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511683
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You have to do this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511683
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Good one but for p52xx this is not enough, with that you will unlock the software side of that mechanism, you still need to modify the kernel to allow such thing aswell. Software and Kernel will constantly fight for the Frequency setting. Blame Intel for that. They seem to not encourage overclocking/underclocking which reasults into that issue aswell. Yeah I know it's lame...
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Good one but for p52xx this is not enough, with that you will unlock the software side of that mechanism, you still need to modify the kernel to allow such thing aswell. Software and Kernel will constantly fight for the Frequency setting. Blame Intel for that. They seem to not encourage overclocking/underclocking which reasults into that issue aswell. Yeah I know it's lame...
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Idk why I should blame intel. Our cpu core is made by marvell
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Idk why I should blame intel. Our cpu core is made by marvell
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The topic was about the 10.1 inch model, not the 7 inch one. On the 7 inch one I guess that MOD should do it. The story is different with the 10.1 inch models that have an Intel CPU.
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The topic was about the 10.1 inch model, not the 7 inch one. On the 7 inch one I guess that MOD should do it. The story is different with the 10.1 inch models that have an Intel CPU.
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I am out
According to HTC website, the SnapDragon 810 in the M9 is supposed to be clocked at 4x 2GHz cores, 4x 1.5GHz cores.
Both CPU Stats and CPU-Z report a max speed of 1.5GHz...
Are we being sold underclocked devices?
I know about the supposed "thermal issues" but to advertise a device at 2GHz but ship it at 1.5Ghz is a bit naughty.
Can anyone confirm their device is running at 2GHz?
TIA
Aaron
Screenshots?
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Or better yet, how about a video? I'm little weary because of all the crapsung trolls in these forums.
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Screenshots?
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Or better yet, how about a video? I'm little weary because of all the crapsung trolls in these forums.
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No video, don't worry, I'm not a troll - just look at *all* of my previous posts, all in HTC Wizard/Kaiser/Desire/One X forums, along with Asus TF300T.
Well I hope that isn't true, for HTC's sake. If it is true then that means this phone did in fact overheat..
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Well I hope that isn't true, for HTC's sake. If it is true then that means this phone did in fact overheat..
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Indeed, that's why I want to know if others have devices running at 2GHz and this is just an error in these apps. But, if they are clocking at 1.5, they shouldn't be advertising it as being 2 on their website and everywhere else.
Reading around it is in fact advertised as 1.5 GHz
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Reading around it is in fact advertised as 1.5 GHz
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Snapshot from HTC UK this afternoon - note the timestamp on my screengrab...
4x2.0 and 4x1.5
So 4 at 2ghz and 4 at 1.5ghz.
In assuming the app is only measuring the max of a few cores and assuming the rest are the same.
Put the phone in performance mode and look at the speed of each core to see where they are set
I get mine tomorrow, I'm definitely going to check.
superchilpil said:
4x2.0 and 4x1.5
So 4 at 2ghz and 4 at 1.5ghz.
In assuming the app is only measuring the max of a few cores and assuming the rest are the same.
Put the phone in performance mode and look at the speed of each core to see where they are set
I get mine tomorrow, I'm definitely going to check.
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Good spot, installed Antutu and it recognises max speed of 1.9584GHz so it does look like it's not underclocked.
Running benchmark now - done, and it didn't get hot
" The new phone has a processor that’s theoretically faster, a higher-resolution camera, and other things that should make the new phone an upgrade from last year’s model. But early reviews suggest the new camera doesn’t take stellar photos, the battery life isn’t great, and in order to keep the CPU from overheating HTC recently pushed out a software update that reduces the clock speed… which means the new phone’s probably not much faster than last year’s model. "
http://liliputing.com/2015/03/htc-one-m9-pre-orders-open-march-27-649-unlocked.html
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Mine is a tad slow playing Football Manager Handheld 2015 which is much quicker on the Note 4 and M8. I think this may well be due to tinkering on HTC's part as during the game the phone is quite cool, but doing other tasks it gets quite hot.
I call shenanigans on HTC's part.
Jonathan-H said:
Mine is a tad slow playing Football Manager Handheld 2015 which is much quicker on the Note 4 and M8. I think this may well be due to tinkering on HTC's part as during the game the phone is quite cool, but doing other tasks it gets quite hot.
I call shenanigans on HTC's part.
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Understand that both of those other phones have 32 bit processor's, most apps are probably not optimized for 64bit. So that may be why that app is slower.
And yes you can be quite sure this phone has a thermal throttle, but don't be mistaken. So does every other phone out there.
/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq
CPU's 0-3 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1555200
CPU's 4-7 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1958400
All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
LeeDroid said:
/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq
CPU's 0-3 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1555200
CPU's 4-7 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1958400
All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
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@LeeDroid which cluster is 2ghz the A57 or A53?
in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, but i dont know which of which
hamdir said:
@LeeDroid which cluster is 2ghz the A57 or A53?
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That's the A57 mate.
None of the CPU stats Apps on the market offer support For octacore as yet, they will see that we have 8 cores but won't be looking at them directly
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That's the A57 mate.
None of the CPU stats Apps on the market offer support For octacore as yet, they will see that we have 8 cores but won't be looking at them directly
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in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, so according to this information the A57 cluster gets disabled completely in powersaver! the slow down is very evident in the camera
Nomal mode:
633mhz to 1958mhz
first 4 cores A53 cluster hover around it's maximum 1555mhz (capped)
second 4 cores A57 cluster around 700mhz idle, it goes all the way up to 1958mhz
CPU powersaver:
300mhz to 1552mhz
first 4 cores cluster A53 hover around it's maximum 1555mhz (capped)
second 4 cores A57 cluster disabled
GPU Adreno 430 speed between 190mhz and 600mhz, not affected by CPU powersaver, drivers [email protected] ([email protected])
when the device is warm (downloading non stop over wifi) battery temp around 39c, a little less load and the battery temp is around 36c
hamdir said:
in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, so according to this information the A57 cluster gets disabled completely in powersaver! the slow down is very evident in the camera
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Yeh that would make sense mate, dropping min freq on the a57 would likely cause freezing, power save bumps us down to a good old 1.5GHz QuadCore, camera is Damn resource hungry so the imminent slow down would also make sense.
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Yeh that would make sense mate, dropping min freq on the a57 would likely cause freezing, power save bumps us down to a good old 1.5GHz QuadCore, camera is Damn resource hungry so the imminent slow down would also make sense.
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how does 1.5ghz quad A53 compare to a 1.1ghz quad Krait400? if we are comparing powersavers M8 vs M9
also some correction:
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All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
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that's not true, they also added thermal throttle to the GPU, all the way from 600mhz to 300mhz which also brings it down to M8 land (once throttled)
Ah indeed!
Hadn't considered the throttling, I don't tend to use power save a great deal however happy to do some comparisons when I have time