[Q] Wait until Feb 2011 for a new WM7 Phone? - Windows Phone 7 General

Hey,
is it a good idea to wait until next year (approx. Feb) for a new WM7 Phone from HTC, or not? I do not know, if there will be a better CPU or else. I know that Qualcom will bring a new CPU Generation but it will be in 2012. And for 2011 I read something about a 1,3GHz or a DualCore 1,5GHz CPU. Is it true? Is it worth the wait?
ne0n

There is always reason to wait. If you wait for 3-4 years more you even can get a WP8 with quad core 3Hz CPU.

Wait
Wait, while Windows Phone 7 is easier to use... they've limited it like an iphone... so u gotta use Zune, no easy internet sharing, no expandable memory, etc.
Also remember that Windows Update program on your mobile... when has Microsoft EVER issued an update on it. It's worth waiting till feburary to see if Microsoft do deliver on their promise to easily allow updating of the phone OS. Also to see if they've made is a feature rich as Windows Phone 6.5 (or even 5.1 ).
New phones will prob be out in Feb too... fingers crossed they have expandable storage as thats making Windows Phone 7 a 'no, no' for me straight away... plus I'm enjoying Remote Desktop and drag and dropping of audio/video files on my TouchHD still (something you can't do on Windows Phone 7 as it works like the annoying iphone system... your forced to put everything though Zune ....) . Zune is a great program but I don't wanna reencode vids etc or Microsoft forcing me to use a particular program... I thought only Apple do that!
Anywoo, i'm babbling. Wait till Feb- new phones, you'll have a better idea of what is hacked for us power-users, you'll know if Microsoft use their own phone update system or not, and if they add expandable storage... as it looks like they've removed removable storage to make it more likely you'll pay to use their 'Zune' monthly subscription to stream it over the internet.

@agentnobo
I know, this is the reason way I say until Feb 2011. I talk about a period of a few weeks. It will be very annoying to buy a new phone and in 5 weeks there will be a next generation or something else. As an example: It wasn't important to wait for a new Core 2 Quad becaus it will be 2,88GHz and not 2,66GHz but if you buy a C2Q and 4 weeks later Intel drop the new i7 Generation it will be annoying.
@acecooper
Thx

ne0n said:
Hey,
is it a good idea to wait until next year (approx. Feb) for a new WM7 Phone from HTC, or not? I do not know, if there will be a better CPU or else. I know that Qualcom will bring a new CPU Generation but it will be in 2012. And for 2011 I read something about a 1,3GHz or a DualCore 1,5GHz CPU. Is it true? Is it worth the wait?
ne0n
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considering these phones just came out, I don't think you will see new phones in february. My guess is they may announce some things at mobile world congress but the phones probably won't make it to consumers until summer.

The phones are really fast with the current hardware. I don't see any reason to wait for new hardware right now unless you don't like any of the current phones.

I'd wait for the updates...
I'm waiting until after the promised updates arrive... I sent my Focus back to AT&T because of missing functionality and will wait to see if the issues are resolved with the updates.

Ren13B said:
The phones are really fast with the current hardware. I don't see any reason to wait for new hardware right now unless you don't like any of the current phones.
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Maybe to get better multimedia experience (like better photo and video shoots), as usual it is always a weak point of our beloved phones...

Lol @ February, isn't the first update coming in January?

Aren't the second batch of WP7 phones (the Blackberry type) or 'chassis 2' coming in Q1 next year.
I doubt the internal spec's will change.

I will probably wait longer.
As WM user I hardly imagine working with this devices at this state,
it's not available in Poland anyway.
Today my carrier gave me X10/Android and I'm also interested in trying this
but bummer: I have to have Gmail account to use it, which I don't have (horrid!)

Probably will see new phones coming out in 3-4 months. Hardware internals will not change(processor, etc...). I'd expect to see bigger and better screens and more memory...
The bigger thing you have to ask yourself if you like windows phone 7...personally I think it completely rocks...yeah it's missing a couple of features that they have to fix but they will. I've been told there will be an update the first 2 weeks of January and continually after that.
I think MS is on to a winner, they just need to do a better job at marketing (so far I'm shocked at how bad they are doing with all the money they have) and they need HTC to put up their a-game and not release the crap they have released so far...

aquamoeba said:
Maybe to get better multimedia experience (like better photo and video shoots), as usual it is always a weak point of our beloved phones...
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Decent phones have good cameras.
Maybe you want 1080p video recording? Lol.
It's usually a weak point of the phonse becaue the phones are phones first, miniature computers second, and cameras/video recorders third.
Better to have a crappy camera than drop 20% of you calls, or have applications force closing left and right, eh?

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HTC HD7 spec sheet and more pics

Damn... Who does not want this anymore after reading the spec sheet?
Pics
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd7-in-real-pictures-looks-great-kickstand-on-display/
Pics
http://wmpoweruser.com/exclusive-htc-hd7-full-specs-revealed-confirms-t-mobile-usa-aws-support/
Specs
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd7-specs-leak-with-tiny-picture-we-have-a-better-one/
Sad day for me.
Hopefully and probably fake.
The HTC HD series has always been their Top of the line phone, and I don't think that they'll release a phone that is an exact copy of the aging Desire hardwarewise. Espesially not when Qualcomm is delivering new, updated Snapdragon processors that's both more energy efficient and faster.
And 8GB memory? That'll be very tight for anyone planning to use their phone for media.
The specifications sheet might only be a placeholder until HTC officially announces the HD3/HD7... At least I hope so... And hope dies last!
I really hope this is a fake! Surely they wouldn't release a near copy if not inferior phone to the last model of thier flagship model!?
I have had my hTc hd2 leo since April, and it was my first smartphone. It took 3 solid days to get accustomed to the new frontier (mine was and still is a bit buggy), and no, I am too scared to flash ROMS just yet.
Although I have a TON of themes and other custom eye candy upgrades. I love cabs btw.
Anyways, if XDA were a woman I would make sweet love to it, but these conflicting reports are really bad.
Is it or is it not real?
I have a feeling that much like me most leo owners are gonna keep theirs even when newer HTC models arrive. Great hardware and an awesome crew of chefs will assure the popularity. I could be wrong, but that is my opinion.
a forward facing camera is about the only thing...oh, flash too, that I wish my dear leo had.
so, until there is solid evidence of the new phone XDA should be a bit more dilligent about moderating the posting real info because noobs like me confuse easily...
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They simply use and unblock with software some "features" of the Qualcomm chipset. Infact, if you look datasheet of Qualcomm 8250 you will see that he can record 720p video and have a 12mpx camera sensor inside..so the new economy is still use an "old" platform in brand new devices for show to us a sort of new model. I think that if HD2 today is still in the smartphone top-ten, we must say thanks to his versatility. Maybe HTC wasn't know 1 years ago that this device will be a miliar stone. Today we have android, winmo 6.5 and very probabily the new brand new WP7. We need other.?
And we must remember that also with the newest radio version, our HD2 received an increase of battey life. We have only trust in the time and in XDA Dev.
Best Regards
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Spec sheet aside, the external design is just flat out disappointing and underwhelming. What happened to the aluminum unibody on the other leaked phones? Why does that not carry over to flagship device? Instead we get this tacky looking plastic back.
I mean, it's just as if HTC said, "Let's take the HD2, remove the metal on the back, and remove the buttons on the front... and give it a kickstand because people love that s**t."
I can't make judgments until I actually hold the device, but so far, it doesn't look promising.
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^this too.
i love my hd2 , unless this phone blows my hd2 away ....it aint happening ,lets see closed platform and less storage .......NOT , ill stick with my hd2
All we need is a chef to move this to our HD2!
I will absolutely stick with an HD2 over the HD3. I don't think I'm going to like WP7, so I hope someone can get that OS on the HD2, just so I can play with it. It just seems too iPhone-ish to me.
Symbian seems kind an old system with others leaving it. ATT & Windows both closed systems. Android an open system where it appears to be growing. I'm just a runt though I learned & still use windows w/my PC but my Droid 2 still not comepletly rooted works OK, so I don't see myself using a WM 7 anytime soon.
I'm really not liking how all the confirmed WP7 devices will be sporting the first gen snapdragon processor (im assuming with the underpformating Adreno 200 GPU as well). In saying that, I'm still gonna wait til it is officially unveiled, if you guys don't remember, when the HD2 was leaked, it was said to have 320mb RAM.. it ended up having 448/576 instead, so theres still some hope.
If it remains, I'll be waiting for the samsung specs to pop out, hopefully hummingbird/SGX540 CPU/GPU combo.
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If it remains, I'll be waiting for the samsung specs to pop out, hopefully hummingbird/SGX540 CPU/GPU combo.
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This is not going to happen. There's one thing that's worse than a previous generation processor though - a new processor with drivers and software that cannot use it.
If the specs are right then it looks like those of us with a HD2 will probably be able to try WP7 sooner rather than later. As I don't want a new phone to be tempting me I am pretty happy about this
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This is not going to happen. There's one thing that's worse than a previous generation processor though - a new processor with drivers and software that cannot use it.
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How do you know there aren't working drivers? They are working perfectly on Android atm at least.
(For the dreamers of the 1st Gen, I wish you best of luck).
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This is not going to happen. There's one thing that's worse than a previous generation processor though - a new processor with drivers and software that cannot use it.
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All WP7 has are minimum requirements. i.e. ARMv7 Cortex/Scorpion or better... weird since last time i checked, the QSD8250 is not from the Scorpion family, and is only loosely related to the Cortex family (so spec changes could still occur imo).
Back to the point, if the Sammy were to have the Hummingbird/SGX540 combo, it still fullfills the minimum requirements (hummingbird is an ARMv7 Cortex CPU, so WP7 should support it). Last I heard, was that OEM's were to provide the GPU drivers, so if Sammy can make it work, that'd be awesome.
It was announced that all WP7 devices will be based on the same chip initially.
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It was announced that all WP7 devices will be based on the same chip initially.
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Ouch. That's ruined my day

Who's holding out?

Just out of curiosity, how many of you are holding out on buying a new WP7 phone until 2nd generation? I know for the average user, these specs may seem amazing, but for the advanced/techy users, it seems under-powered.This is especially because they're using a 2 year old CPU when a more recent one that has better 3d performance and battery life is out in the market.
I, for one, will be holding on to my Touch Pro until 2nd generation WP7 comes out. Anyone have any idea when that will be?
would like to hold out, but the problem here is my touch pro's backspace, space, 1, tab, and fn key has basically died out on me
You should use the swype keyboard. I never went back to the physical keyboard once I started using swype.
tried it
don't really like it
i still prefer physical keys though
but yah, i'm looking to get the venue pro. but it seems to look like the tp's keyboard, and frankly, i do dread it a little
If i had a decent phone today i would wait for second gen, but i'm on an HTC Magic now, running Android 2.1 and everything is soooooooo slow i feel like throwing the phone into the wall. Can hardly scroll on this forum on the phone because it's so laggy.
Have set my eyes on an HTC Mozart.
I'll definitely be waiting for the 2nd gen. All the phones looks pretty ugly IMO, not to mention the old processors....and the AT&T selection sucks.
I'd like to wait, but my Fuze is on life support. As much as I would like for the specs to be better for this first gen of WP7 phones, they handily beat the Iphones specs and most WM phones. I am buying a gen one knowing that I will be buying a gen two next summer. I am considering my gen one as a 'get aquainted' with the OS phone while I hold out for a stunner in '11.
http://designfabulous.blogspot.com/2010/07/htc-1.html
Well, we can dream. HTC just needs to hire this guy.
I think people that hold out aren't as tech savvy sad they think.
Understand that android is optimized to run on various hardware specs. While windows phone 7 was designed for this specific hardware.
The same spec phone running both operating systems won't be comparible. The overall speed of wp7, the quality of the apps, and the games will be superior to android even after the dual core phones release.
The only thing that could bump the android back up is strong min specs of the new version of the OS and market apps that are only available to phones with those specs. Developers need to also commit to designing apps for a very small market of those top-of-the-line phones.
Those are the reasons why my rooted nexus one, car dock, and desktop dock will be on ebay within a month.
I love android, but I am always excite to test new things. After all, one could always ebay the phone and buy another extremely easily. I don't see any reason not to try wp7 unless you are locked into a contract and unwilling to buy an unsubsidized phone.
Nah I'm gonna get the HD7 as soon as my contract expires in late spring. Currently have the Moto Cliq with Android. If MS makes a Zune HD2, than I might think about getting a 64gb version of that and get the latest and greatest Android phone, Iphone, or Palm Phone.
Definitely not digging android anymore;
*sluggish, having to constantly kill apps and restart the phone
*Multiple OS fragmentation means I missing out on a lot of apps
*No app quality control (sick of buying an app thats sluggish or just plain buggy)
*No Easy Desktop Sync like Itunes or Zune
*NO AUTOMATICALLY UPDATING MUSIC PLAYLIST - A biggy for me.
Also I have a zune pass and hate having to convert my music just because Android doesn't play WMA DRM.
WP7 minimum specs aren't all that, but better than the minimum of Android which is still 528mhz processor for Android 2.1
The little angel sitting on the right shoulder is saying "Wait, wait!"
The little devil sitting on the left shoulder is saying "Get it, what are you afraid of? Offline Outlook Sync?"
Oh it is so hard!
But on a serious note, as soon as I am sure that it will Sync with Offline Outlook or I have a non cloud solution that I can trust, I will get it.
There isn't going to be an ideal phone for me in the first wave, but I'm gonna get one soon. Ideally I want the Dell Venue Pro but with Super AMOLED instead of AMOLED, and a MSM8255 SoC instead of the QSD8250's. But besides that, I think I will be happy with the Dell. "Dude, you're getting a Dell"
Also I really want WP7 to succeed. So in order to get a phone those next 2nd Gen phones with the Dual Cores and 32GB of memory, that means the 1st gen's need to succeed. So I'm gonna buy one to support my long term goals.
the QSD8250 has still more than enough horsepower to be used today. don't just look at what speeds and GPU does a processor holds but also take into the fact how well the OS utilizes the processor.
IMO its best to get the first wave. By the time the second wave hits (say this time next year), none of the apps/games will be fully utilising the power of the new processors anyway (since majority of WP7 handsets would have the QSD cpu and that'd be where the money for devs is). So you'll have all this power yet nothing to make use of it (basically like the Galaxy S). It'll take about 6 months imo til games start utilising the newer processors and run somewhat subpar on first gen devices.
So IMO that gives first-devices from launch about 18months of excellent performance, before it starts feeling 'old in the tooth'. By the time first gen buyers upgrade in approx. 24months, there'd be the third generation CPU's hitting the streets, and that'd be able to run second gen apps with ease, and the whole cycle starts again.
I'm definitely waiting until this gets jail broken. And if Htc comes out with a slide out keyboard for it. Not enough good phone options for me. When phones similar to the tilts come back wp7 has got my full attention then.
At the moment, I just can't justify giving up my HD2.
It'd be amazing if WP7 gets ported to the HD2 and I will, for sure, boot it up. I'm sceptical about some aspects of WP7 and so would like to see what impact (if any) these aspects have on my day-to-day usage.
If all goes well, then I will consider a WP7 device early next year. Hopefully, by then we'll have had a round of updates for stability issues (inevitable) and some missing features added.
So, in short, I think I'll hold out till wave 2 (or at least until the OS has settled a bit).
Casey
diego1985 said:
I'm definitely waiting until this gets jail broken. And if Htc comes out with a slide out keyboard for it. Not enough good phone options for me. When phones similar to the tilts come back wp7 has got my full attention then.
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then you should wait for the htc 7 pro this looks amazing and i don't think it will be long before someone jailbreaks it.
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Gonna get the new WP7 phone out of the gate, for sure. Then I'll be in a great position to sit back and wait for a 'dream device,' which I'm not sure will make it out before the holidays next year. If it does, I'll get it, but if not I'll have gotten my money's worth with the phone I'm going to get shortly.
I have no choice but to wait. I am on Sprint, so I can't even begin to think about getting one until they release theirs. And "sometime in 1st half of 2011" is pretty vague. So for now, I have to sit back and read about everyone's experience.
So hopefully, I will be reading good reviews.
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then you should wait for the htc 7 pro this looks amazing and i don't think it will be long before someone jailbreaks it.
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Microsoft updates WP7 so any exploits will be patched in record time.
You can prolly refuse the OTA, but it can suck if that fix is bundled with a fix/enhancement you need...
Clear ur jailbreak and get copy and paste, or go without? Lol...
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the QSD8250 has still more than enough horsepower to be used today. don't just look at what speeds and GPU does a processor holds but also take into the fact how well the OS utilizes the processor.
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That's a truth with some modifications. Yes, the 8250 is more than powerful enough to run the OS and any games/apps released for it - it is however not powerful enough to playback [most] HD video and this is the reason why I'm disappointed by the current wave of devices.
I have terabyte upon terabyte of [mostly] HD video stored on my server which I am unable to view on the phone without re-encoding them. This is a process I go thru at the moment with my HD2 and I was really looking forward to a little more horsepower in WP7 devices so I could simply import then rather than spend a lot of time re-encoding them first.
Personally, I have to get a 1st wave device for development purposes, but I very much doubt it will replace my current HD2 or Evo as the day to day phone. Not only for reasons of hardware but also due to lack of services offered locally (no localized bing search, no XBL integration, no 'full' marketplace, no Zune pass and the list goes on).

Ballmer: "Mango phones coming out this Christmas"

http://www.wpcentral.com/ballmer-mango-phones-coming-christmas
I reallllly hope I'm not right (I'm calling early/mid 2012 for Mango).
Did you come across the some of the 2nd generation phones announced today?
http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-reveals-new-samsung-mango-device
Really liking the new Samsung.
That one he pulled out of his pocket looked wicked.
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That one he pulled out of his pocket looked wicked.
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If your look at the video in 720p, you can see a spot towards the top left of the phone....Is that a front camera spot ?
certainly looks like a ffc and leave it to samsung to do it...
HTC/LG your move
Ya, I believe one of the articles I've read (Engadget?) leaned toward it having a front-facing camera.
We just have to wait I guess, until we can get a higher quality video to confirm.
sure haven't said:
http://www.wpcentral.com/ballmer-mango-phones-coming-christmas
I reallllly hope I'm not right (I'm calling early/mid 2012 for Mango).
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I think people are taking that comment WAY to literally. I can guarantee that he did not mean "arriving in stores on Christmas day". He meant for the Christmas shopping season. Which, for most people in the manufacturing and retail industries means "late October" .
Besides, we still don't know which will come first, new Mango devices, or the release of the Mango update to carriers for existing phones.
That's a GSII with WP7. Same as the original GS that became the Focus.
Can OEMs use dual core processors with WP7?
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Can OEMs use dual core processors with WP7?
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Yep. If they want to. They can go above and beyond the minimum specs at their discretion as long as they at least meet them.
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If your look at the video in 720p, you can see a spot towards the top left of the phone....Is that a front camera spot ?
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Could be. But if you look at the Optimus 7 it looks like it has a front facing camera. However it doesn't. Could be the same thing.
I hope we are WOWed....as of now, no hardware wows any of us
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I do not believe so. Microsoft is being strick on Hardware. I believe their writing the chipset drivers themselves, which is why it's only Snapdragon 1st gen right now. They want to avoid the horrible driver issues that happened on WM, especial HTC & their crappy 3D drivers. Mango adds some 2nd gen Snapdragon support, but haven't seen anything dual core yet. Nevermind the fact that WP7 doesn't need it yet.
hopefully , ballmer will have enough sense to wait a little while AFTER the iphone 5 release... otherwise there's no point with the release.
no dualcores ? man, I hadn't heard that yet. there could be some awesome camera apps with that benefit.
I don't think anyone really need dual core atm, I was just asking to guess if Samsung could use the exact same hardware for wp7.
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They will just like they did with the Galaxy S -> Focus. Just remove some hardware stuff.
Part of me says Yea, for Dual cores, then another side does not...
Nice thing about WP7 now, everything runs on Every device but, once you get into to dual core CPUs, there will be games made for the dual core that don't run on the signle core...
So you would need to upgrade if you want to run everything...
Just like my windows PC that I have to spend about $600 a year (every 3 years about $1200) so I can run every game on the market with no slow downs and awsome frame rates..
we don't really need dual core at the moment.. games would get better, but devs still have to consider the first gen hardware..
It would be nice if WP7 phones were modular. You could replace components with upgraded ones. The latest CPU a dual core? No problem! Just flip a back panel open and pop in the dual core. Need a FFC? No problem! Just pop off the small front panel and plug in the FFC. Need an upgraded GPU? No problem! Just open up the cover and replace the existing one with the latest from ATi or nVidia.
Sounds a lot like custom computers but would be a boon for WP7.
I'm almost sure we will see mango + devices just in time for christmas, if all goes well, or more probably due to some hiccup in super-improving your new os version and devices, for your enjoyment, they will have to make it slide to january, which in turn means that most people will get the mango update in february/march. I think the first mango+nokia phones will be ready almost too late for christmas

Picking your next Windows Phone... What is your priority feature?

Thought this might be interesting if I go by things I read on different threads.
This won't be the case but let's assume you can get any phone on any carrier and price isn't an issue.
How would you pick your next phone?
I allowed for multiple choice but try not to vote for 6 out of 8 or this won't teach us anything specific. And if you picked "Other", what did you have in mind?
Other: gyroscope support and > 1 GHz processor
My most important features: Screen size (less than 4"), Camera (high quality with dual led), and something not there build quality.
I am pretty much all in for the Nokia 800. Second choice is the Samsung Omnia W.
For me there has to be a hardware keyboard - I just hate capacitive touch keyboards.
Price, can't be more than $100 with no contract. And of course, significantly better than my LG Quantum, otherwise I have no reason to upgrade.
I LOVE massive phones, I went from my HD2, to an HD7, and if God would answer my prayers, the Titan would come to T-Mobile, though, soon enough it won't matter as I'm hoping we become AT&T. So, I voted for FFC since it's already a given to me that I'm going for a big phone. Screen type would probably be a close second for me, as I like the HD7 screen, but really wish it were a higher quality, but hey, I'm asking to be spoiled now, right?
It's odd to see one user out of two ready to buy a phone on its brand alone
I personally go for what I find better overall regardless of the OEM.
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Price, can't be more than $100 with no contract. And of course, significantly better than my LG Quantum, otherwise I have no reason to upgrade.
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Yeah I guessed price would come up for many people as well as choice given by the carrier which is why I said in the first post regardless of price and availability
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It's odd to see one user out of two ready to buy a phone on its brand alone
I personally go for what I find better overall regardless of the OEM.
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I personally love HTC, I know I'm probably in the current minority, for some odd reason as they're the only phones to consistently update without an issue, but Nokia is also winning over my heart.
I really want my Mozart to be my last HTC ever. But it's been my desire to abandon them since like 2005, and I still was forced to buy their stuff because others were mostly even worse.
In your list, it goes like this: screen less than 4", 16GB minimum (64 preferred), usable camera, 1500+ mAH battery. No pentile crap. Looks are also kind of important, but I can live with something less than stellar.
The leaks and announcements really make me sad, I don't see anything really attractive. SeaRay is almost there but it looks like it'll come with PenTile, so it's most probably a no go...
I'm with FiyaFleye, I like HTC and and have seen problems that would affect with other OEMS that I don't have with my Fuze. Nokia I have no idea on that but haven't had one in 4 yrs and it was a dumbphone. However not willing to wait another 3 months+ for them either. I would like a hardware keyboard with a smaller screen would be first choice, or go with a big screen so I can type well. Extra nick nacks are always a plus if they are usable, and 1 gig > processor for some future app usage is good too.
This list would have been so much easier in Aug before they started announcing phones, I'm just waiting for mine to come to the USA.
I'd love to get my hands on a Nokia WP7 phone, but that could take a while and the HTC Titan is kinda expensive over here.
I'll prolly just get a Samsung Omnia W if I get too impatient, really wanna see what the better CPU/GPU can do for my emulator.
Also I'd really like to see some 32GB storage phones, 8GB is just killing me on my Trophy.
1. Storage, it must be at least 32gb
2. Nokia
I will only consider getting a phone that isn't a nokia if the storage space is 32gb or above (and nokia only offer 16gb variants).
If storage space doesn't improve by the end of the year I will probably jump ship to android, even though I prefer Windows Phone my music collection is a must for me.
I'm hoping *fingers crossed* that the Nokia 800 will come in 16gb and 64gb variants like the N9 and thus will be my next phone (in blue )
Manufacturer is gonna come into play for my next WP7. IE i'm not having another Samsung phone.
I went with screen size. 3.5" ish would be good. Also, want good battery life. At least a 1500mah battery.
Funny how so few people picked FF Camera when it's supposed to be an epic fail not to have it since Apple "invented" video chat
I would have bought that Samsung Omnia 7 W like today if it came with 16 GB...
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1. Storage...at least 32 GB
3. Camera quality
3. Screen quality
I don't know any one that actually uses the FFC...nothing but a gimmick.
I´m asking myself if I need a new WP in general...
My OMNIA 7 has all features I use daily (less DLNA and skype support).
So today I took a look at the new HTC devices:
1. HTC Omega is too small.
2. HTC Titan is too big for my taste.
The display is much better than the HD7 display but not even better than the OMNIA 7 display. Also the general quality of the phone is very good: less plastic parts and good working hardware buttons (compared with the HD7).
Do I need a HTC Titan 4.7" notebook in my pocket ? I don´t think so.
The upcoming OMNIA W will only have 8 GB, maybe 16GB... is this what I need ? I don´t think so either.
A general question is: Do I really need a FF cam ? How many videocalls I made in the past ? I only made normal voip calls...
I would say the only hope is that the NOKIA Empire strikes back... and I don´t think that the new devices will have more than 16 GB.
I hope that I´m wrong, but I think it´s better to wait 3 or 4 month before buying a new WP.
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I never thought I'd say this, but camera is my #1. Since everyone seems to be pinching pennies these days and both of my old 5MP point-and-shoots are just crappy, my phone has become my #1 camera for both stills and video. I remember when cameras first came out on cell phones and I was thinking, "why?" All that, and baby is now 12 weeks old, so I'm taking pictures like crazy!
Screen size is a close second. I doubt I could ever go smaller than my 4" Focus screen at this point.

the 2nd generation mobiles will be upgradeable to apollo?

good, or know someone sade some source more or less certain about whether the current terminal htc, nokia Samung and second generation update to windows phone apollo? or you think that even users of Lumia 800, radar, etc. titan leave us lying?
I got yesterday new info.
The thing is - even Microsoft doesn't yet know or isn't certain about it yet.
They are right now testing, whether the old phones can pull off enough perfomance to drive the new WinRT kernel.
Considering that new phones ship with Tango right now, I'd say that getting Apollo is pretty much guaranteed. There's a slightly possibility that the gen1 phones won't, but I'd be shocked. MS is specifically aiming to *not* fragment Windows Phone the way Android has ended up. Obviously eventually the hardware will be too slow to get reasonable performance out of the next version, but even the release devices will be barely 2 years old when Apollo comes out. The gen2 devices like you ask about will be under a year old in most cases.

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