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Hi all,
I've read in a few places that if you want to run apps from your SD card that you should have a class 6 SD card. Can anyone explain why this is? I've currently got the one that came with the phone, which is class 2. Just want to understand why I need it before splashing out the cash
Thanks
It's all about speed. Class 6 is faster than Class 4 is faster than Class 2. If you are happy with the performance with your Class 2 card, no need to splash out the cash.
yeah its just about speed, the higher the class the faster the r/w speed, you dont really need a class 6 these days tho, maybe in the old days of the g1/hero but not now
There's quite a bit of discussion on this and I'm honestly quite confused over this as well.
The higher classes just means faster write speeds but same read speeds. Certainly, this shouldn't affect the performance of apps that are installed on the card; unless the card is being used for swap memory.
Anyway, I've heard some users with 32GB microSD card (only available in class 2) using app2sd with no ill-effects. I've recently purchased one myself and will be swapping it out later tonight.
newbie on Android here.....may I ask....Im currently using a 16Gb mem card....If I change it to a 32Gb, what are the files that I need to copy to the new card, so that the apps/games currently installed will still run? I noticed there are so many folders inside my memory card now.....which one should I transfer to my new card? Or should I need to re-install the apps?
thanks..
dinoalbert said:
newbie on Android here.....may I ask....Im currently using a 16Gb mem card....If I change it to a 32Gb, what are the files that I need to copy to the new card, so that the apps/games currently installed will still run? I noticed there are so many folders inside my memory card now.....which one should I transfer to my new card? Or should I need to re-install the apps?
thanks..
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are you using apps2sd? or just running a stock like rom?
9 out of 10 users on this website would not be able to tell the difference in speed by running apps on a class 4 or class 6 cards.
AndroHero said:
are you using apps2sd? or just running a stock like rom?
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I am using an OTA Froyo but already rooted....
Before the usual flamers get to write on this topic to say high-class cards are useless, it really comes down I think to the time you have available to wait for USB transfers. On a class 2 it takes AGES. I bought a class10 16gb and it's an absolute life changer (i do have a lot of public transport so I make heavy use of my phone as a video player)
phentex said:
Before the usual flamers get to write on this topic to say high-class cards are useless, it really comes down I think to the time you have available to wait for USB transfers. On a class 2 it takes AGES. I bought a class10 16gb and it's an absolute life changer (i do have a lot of public transport so I make heavy use of my phone as a video player)
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Another reason to have a class 4 or faster card in the phone is to have reliable 720p 25fps video recording. On my Class 2 with a2sd+ recording stutters.
thanks for the responses. from what i read previously, it talked about class 6 cards being less likely to be unmounted and causing problems to running applications. does this mean anything to anyone?!
Kashban said:
Another reason to have a class 4 or faster card in the phone is to have reliable 720p 25fps video recording. On my Class 2 with a2sd+ recording stutters.
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This is the reason when I eventually get the money I'll be getting a 16GB class 4 or 6 card. At the moment 720p is fairly pointless to me since I can't get smooth recordings with my SD card.
Have no issues with my 16Gb Class-2 sdcard. R/W speed enough to handle 720p recording and rockplayer playing avis perfectly.
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iLHaNroID said:
Have no issues with my 16Gb Class-2 sdcard. R/W speed enough to handle 720p recording and rockplayer playing avis perfectly.
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Are you running A2SD or a2sd+ on your phone? If not, that may be the reason.
The more apps and widgets and stuff is moved to the sd, the more r/w-access happens to the card, which has serious impact on video recording. I really wish the internal memory of the Desire wasn't so small. What the heck did HTC think by putting only 560 MByte internal storage into their android flagship? The SGS has 5 GiBytes!
jstegeman said:
It's all about speed. Class 6 is faster than Class 4 is faster than Class 2. If you are happy with the performance with your Class 2 card, no need to splash out the cash.
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Incorrect!
The class of the card doesn't tell you the speed of a card - it tells you the *minimum* sustained write speed on a card which is completely unfragmented
A good quality class 2 card can and often will be faster than a poor quality class 6 card.
The two Sandisk Class 2 card I use both write at around 7.5mb/s, which is faster than the class 6 minimums.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Incorrect!
The class of the card doesn't tell you the speed of a card - it tells you the *minimum* sustained write speed on a card which is completely unfragmented
A good quality class 2 card can and often will be faster than a poor quality class 6 card.
The two Sandisk Class 2 card I use both write at around 7.5mb/s, which is faster than the class 6 minimums.
Regards,
Dave
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That's interesting info! Would explain why I have far fewer problems than most people report with 720p recording onto my class2 card.
So the real answer is: Benchmark your write speed before making any big purchasing decisions on SD cards.
Kashban said:
Another reason to have a class 4 or faster card in the phone is to have reliable 720p 25fps video recording. On my Class 2 with a2sd+ recording stutters.
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so a class 4 good enough for 720p? i have a class 2 right now and the recording is just horrible.. i thought that my phone was broken and have changed many custom roms
Bought a C6 16gb to replace C2 4Gb - definitely faster as USB drive - both Sandisk
Thinking about upgrading to a 16gb sd card. I noticed that a class 2 goes for like 19 bucks while anything with a higher class is 30 bucks or more. Will I really see a perfromance boost if I get a class 4 or 10? If so, what will increase? Will photos load faster? Will the videos I record in 720p have a faster playback? Etc. What takes advantage of the class speeds?
Thanks for any input guys!
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durps said:
Thinking about upgrading to a 16gb sd card. I noticed that a class 2 goes for like 19 bucks while anything with a higher class is 30 bucks or more. Will I really see a perfromance boost if I get a class 4 or 10? If so, what will increase? Will photos load faster? Will the videos I record in 720p have a faster playback? Etc. What takes advantage of the class speeds?
Thanks for any input guys!
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If anything, for video playback the faster class sd's will/should eliminate stuttering issues etc.
Here's a good breakdown of the diffs: http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/
I would say given the lack of a2ext on this phone there really isn't a need for anything higher than a class 2 on this phone. The only things it would help with are:
1. If you use linux swap (stores the cache on the sdcard)
2. If you've moved your dalvik to the sdcard
3. If you use enomthers rom which has a2ext/linux swap
4. Video playback/recording (maybe)
5. File transfers. Large files and sdcard backups will be quicker
That's really all and if you don't use most of that stuff then I'd just stick with a class 2 and suffer the slower transfer rates. You should be fine with video, I've used a class 2 and 6 - video was the same as far as I could tell but certain videos (movies) might shutter a bit with the class 2, I never tested that aspect.
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Also note, the class is simply indicative of the minimum write speed, not read speed. Things like playback and load times are not affected that much (though things like 720p video recording could theoretically perform better).
Also, because the class is the minimum speed, a lot of the time the higher quality class 2 cards may still achieve class 4 of class 6 write speeds.
Ahh, I see. Thanks for the info guys!
Does anyone know the common write speed of the stock 8gb card?
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I believe the stock card is class 4 so the minimum it should be able to write is 4 mb/s. Not every card is created equal. If you search on google you can find apps that help you test the read/write speed of the card.
I'm pretty sure my stock card was a class 2. I now have a 16gb class 2 card, and it seems to do everything fine... including video recording.
The stock card in my G2 was a Class 2, though for my wife's MyTouch 4G (bought on the same day) she got a Class 4.
When I had my G1 I switched from a Class 2 to a Class 6, my picture taking got noticeably faster, I used that same Class 6 in my G2 so I can't really compare it to anything there.
My stock card was a SanDisk, and they only make Class 2 cards. I use my Class 6 card in the hopes that more the Android modders sees the sense in having a /system/sd folder leading to an ext partition.
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My stock card was a SanDisk, and they only make Class 2 cards. I use my Class 6 card in the hopes that more the Android modders sees the sense in having a /system/sd folder leading to an ext partition.
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Not sure if you've been keeping up with this thread or not, but it should make you really happy then: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925996.
And SanDisk does make cards higher than class 2...
hello guys.
I have a memory card(Adata microSDhc 8gb class6) and I want to replace the old one(samsung microSDhc 8gb class2), because I think the new one is faster, am I right?.. and I want to know what steps need to follow to replace him or simply hand him the old with the new one??
The class 6 card should be faster, although bear in mind that the speed rating is a minimum so a quality class 2 card could be faster than a shoddy class 6 card. As for replacing it mount your SD card to your pc copy everything to the pc, install your new sd and transfer everything back, job done.
I understand, thanks. but I'd like to say your opinion if it's worth to make this change ?
for me no, samsung cards may not be the top of the line but they are good enough.
and the fact that it's only 8GB, getting a faster class cards will be worth it if you're getting those higher capacity cards 16gb / 32 gb.
ok thanks. remain with the old one ,and I will change when I'll buy a card of 16gb or 32gb. but are so expensive in our country :-<
galacticu said:
I understand, thanks. but I'd like to say your opinion if it's worth to make this change ?
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Personally if you've got the card there I'd give it a go download SD-tools and benchmark both cards and keep the faster one, I find that faster cards do improve life sometimes with faster gallery load times and less likelihood of stuttering when recording HD video.
Actually i too had an 8 gb class 2 and i upgraded to 8 gb class 6. The problem with class 2 is that videos recorded at 720p start lagging when you play them with a class 2 card. I had this problem with the new sd card i got with my dhd. it was a class 2 and videos at 720p would lag like crazy. Got a new class 6 and the problem just disappeared.
hi, i'm using the latest firmware 4.0.2.A.0.58 firmware and I have a problem.
When I insert my 32gb microsd the phone become laggy and it seems freezed.
I tried the card on the pc, did a surface test, and it is perfect.
When I unmount the card the phone works properly.
If i use another 16gb microsd the phone still working properly.
So..what's the matter?does anyone noticed the same issue?
thank you!
No, mine works fine
Check my sig for more info on my sd and setup
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It takes a time for phone to read out and sync media player if you got lot of music, videos, picture games etc.
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loryb84 said:
hi, i'm using the latest firmware 4.0.2.A.0.58 firmware and I have a problem.
When I insert my 32gb microsd the phone become laggy and it seems freezed.
I tried the card on the pc, did a surface test, and it is perfect.
When I unmount the card the phone works properly.
If i use another 16gb microsd the phone still working properly.
So..what's the matter?does anyone noticed the same issue?
thank you!
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may be your memory card carry viruses so try to format it and then format your cell phone also(reset configuration with erase memory card)....may be this could solve your problem...
I see that you guys all use a class 10 card. Is there really a big difference compared to lower class cards?
My phone worked smooth enough with the stock 8GB class 2 card, and my current Transcend class 4 16GB doesn't harm the phone's performance.
class 4 is enough, on phone you will not see any DIFRENCE.
When you connect your phone to PC over USB and conect it to mass storage, you will see then POWER OF CLASS 10. faster uploading to PC, and faster dowloading from PC.
On phone class 10 and class 4 are the SAME.
Well, I noticed a difference and prefer the class 10 all the way.
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Hi hi Ok I have a problem and hoping someone can help...
I purchaced a kingston 32GB class 10 memory card and plagued with issues since having it.
My setup is...
Arc LT15
.42 Firmware
Advanced stock kernel
32GB class 10 memory card
Now the problem is images and videos and apps.
Apps...
They keep ramdom uninstalling if they are stored on the memory card
Videos/pictures
Any I have taken since installing the card become corrupted. Even screenshots.
IE I took a screenshot and it displayed on the phone, I went to gallary and viewed it fine.
Came to home screen and back to gallery still fine.
Left some time went to gallary and corrupt.
Cannot be viewed even by PC
This also happened to videos.
I had this problem so installed a totally fresh se rom updated via SEUS (I think)
Cleared dalvik cache and user cache etc manually installed the apps from the card etc etc used no backups apart from contacts backup
Everything was totally clean.
Even my language from swiftkey keyboard app keeps deleting randomly :/
Still getting the issue :/ Is there anything i'm missing?
Thanks,
Jinx13
Hey guys... read cearfully!
The class 10 approx parameters are... Read- 22 mb/s write 10 mb/s
The class 4 are Read 10 mb/s Write 4 mb/s...
So why your phones working bad with class 10?
Because those are linear read-write speeds...and you are using it only while USB connection by moovie transfer or watching... What is the rest card usage?
It is random read-write or seqental read-write used by yor apk's or fo example thumbs of stock gallery.
These speeds are for class 10 - 0.08 mb/s
class 4 - 0.8 mb/s
See the difference now? So class 10 is good for DSLR cameras or mediaplayers etc. Class 4 perfect for phone. Mine 32gb class 4 just flying!!!!!
So your saying 32GB class 10 is not supported fully by the ARC?
Jinx13
I don't get you.
SD speedtest apps give me ~10MB/s write and 20+MB/s read, so it's supported.
Also it feels faster than a class 4 (class 4 vs class 10 was tested in my X10, but Arc is even faster)
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It is linear speeds...like you are reading or writing moovie or some one solid big file...
But the system uses random read of small files... And there class 10 looses. On class 4 compared to class 10 in gallery 1000+ photo thumbnails appears in seconds.
Try crystall disc mark software to test your card on PC and you will see. Test config is 5 tests at 100mb...pay attention at 4K and 4Kq32 speeds. At class 10 they are 0.04-0.08...
Ah
Anyways, I'm happy with my 32GB class 10
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Ofcourse you are! I just wanted to make it clear for those who says that it is lagy or like that...
But it isn't laggy with the class 10 when you have a good sd card.
The cheap Kingston 16GB class 10 from eBay lagged often in Astro, but no problems with my Patriot 32GB class 10 sd card
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So can anyone explain why I might have problems?
From my previous post I just rebooted my phone and lost my SD apps AGAIN!!
Yep! Patriot is one of that card of class 10 that gives you a great performance in any type of R/W. There is a post here, on XDA...there said that patriot is the best card, so my answer is not for you man)))))
About sd apps loss you shold check your app wich provides managment of apps to sd card - links2sd or what it is... the promlem is not in the card.
Or check the sd if it corrupts files.
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ishishkin said:
Yep! Patriot is one of that card of class 10 that gives you a great performance in any type of R/W. There is a post here, on XDA...there said that patriot is the best card, so my answer is not for you man)))))
About sd apps loss you shold check your app wich provides managment of apps to sd card - links2sd or what it is... the promlem is not in the card.
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It is not that program as that program just points to the settings page to move the file.
I have decided to put my 8GB class 2 back in and that is working without problems.
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Or check the sd if it corrupts files.
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Yes it corrupts the images and videos from gallary
After testing with my old card since yesterday I will try send my card back.
Thanks for replies,
Jinx13
I bought a Kingston 16GB class 10 - Full of problems (returned)
Then a Kingston 32GB class 4 - better results but not that speedy
Now I found for 46euros here in Greece a Samsung 32GB class 10 so I said I have to try this.. and voila! The card is perfect, no lags! The phone is super speedy now!
So I guess it have to do with the cards not the brand.. if you re lucky you will end up with a good card.
Hello all I am looking for a Micro SD card for this phone.
I am gonna use the Micro SD for storage: music, photo and even full HD videos.
My question is simple.. For this purpose is every Class 10 UHS-I card good?
Because I am reading some feedback and someone (with phones like S7, M9, Op2) has some troubles with recognizing the card or even their phones do not save full HD video properly and they have problems with playback.
If someone could answer me would be grateful, thanks.