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I am trying to get my read on here to catch up to ROOTING and ROMs for the INC. I am used to z4root and loading .zips through clockwork. This seems a little more intense on the INC.
There any good one stop shop guides Im not finding searching this forum? I've found Unrevoked (which I need to make sure I will read to understand) and it looks like most are just using rom manager. Is it also easy to FLASH back to stock in case I mess up?
Thanks guys
I remember when I was in you shoes!! Everything you need to know is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=638 in the stickies. And yes returning to stock is very simple.
Ugh now I feel like a dope. Guess I could have searched "[Guide]" to find some goodies ahaha.
HaHa! No problem, we've all been there before!
don't worry about being worried or what not. We've all been there, me personally a few months ago.... now i'm flashing CM nightlies every other day.
Just be ready to unleash the power. haha
MMBosstones86 said:
don't worry about being worried or what not. We've all been there, me personally a few months ago.... now i'm flashing CM nightlies every other day.
Just be ready to unleash the power. haha
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+1. Can't. Leave. ****. Alone.
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Might I recommend continuing to flash via recovery. Reliance on ROM Manager seems to cause a lot more questions.
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Might I recommend continuing to flash via recovery. Reliance on ROM Manager seems to cause a lot more questions.
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Yeah I just did revoked and noticed this is clockwork just like the X. I can go ahead and just install the zip file for the ROM I want?
yup, easy as that. Make sure you have a good nandroid back up and wipe your data / catch / dalvik catch if your switching between roms.
good luck and nandroid nandroid nandroid!
Uh oh I only did a backup in clockwork after root =(
That's ok. The main thing is that you have a working back up (stock or not) to flash back to if something goes wrong.
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+1. Can't. Leave. ****. Alone.
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+10, I flashed between 4 ROMs in a day. A DAY. And got them all configured the way I wanted them.
Lol I think my first ROM (SR 3.5) I left on and alone for about...2 weeks? haha
Oh, CWM, how MUCH I can't stand thee:
Anyway, here's a long version:
I can't stand using CWM for recovery.
(I initially had an OG Evo, and it was nothing but a headache, so I always used AmonRa, successfully, and use that or TWRP on my ALL my other devices, where I can...
I'very made other posts about its issues, and have gotten into it with Koush online before about all the problems with it, and how he just let's so many versions out into the wild that aren't working for different phones...
With the ET4G, I kinda had to use it, and was able to flash a working version thru Odin.
Whatever, I was able to use it.
Lately, Koush releases a touchscreen version, there are stories about it all over the web: so I go into Rom Manager to check it out:
It tells me that it's not yet compatible with the ET4G, but that my version of CWM is outdated, so I should flash a newer CWM....
LIKE AN IDIOT, I agreed.
Now, just when I finally have a chance to flash CM9 on my ET4G, after waiting SOOOOO long?
I can't.
Because now, my recovery's totally borked.
I can't even get my phone to do anything but bootloop the CM7 animation, and download mode is the only thing I can get into.
Now, I'm gonna have to spend all this time today fixing what shouldn't be messed up in the first place instead of enjoying CM9 like I should be doing.
(BTW: Koush, if you're listening: this will be the last time for sure I ever fall for that again.)
Yeah, I'm mad, Bro.
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I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Methinks you are a wise and gracious man with your help......
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I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Oh, yeah: I can fix it, but my wife has my laptop till like 7pm, and I really don't wanna mess with drivers, Odin, all, that stuff on my desktop. I keep all my Android stuff on one PC (laptop) and I like having ADB, drivers, all that stuff, in one place...Just kinda threw a rock into my chain, on today of all days...
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Edit: And, yeah, I knew that used to be the case with CWM (needed kernel flash), but when a known high-level dev is telling me basically, that "this updated version will work for that very specific Android device that you have", and that "I can use his app to flash it", I guess I wanted to believe him...
Eff that guy: He needs to spend less time stacking his money, and more time having some accountability for what he releases to the public.
/End rant.
So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.
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So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.
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?
How much magic does it take to remove the ET4G from Rom Manager's compatability list?
I'd bet not too much: In fact, I'd bet I could learn that trick in one short weekend.
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If you're still rooted Mobil odin
Nandroid hardly ever works for me, it usually fails during the restore.
just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.
drksilenc said:
just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.
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I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...
I love the new clockwork mod touch recovery. I actually like it better than twrp2.0. Only thing I like about twrp is you can compress the backups. The new cwm touch was just released for the ns4g.
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I agree ROM manager is useless in the galaxy s4g forums its ROM Mangler.
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playya said:
I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...
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I know, I know...
(And I'm back up with CM9 on my ET4G: used my desktop, couldn't wait all day), and believe me: there's probably no one who's more outspoken about their anti-cwm/rommanagerness than I am: I'm just mad at myself for believing that the new update would work..
Oh well, lesson (re)learned....
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This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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eao1991 said:
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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Originally Posted by eao1991
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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I use the extended power options for that...but obviously the rom needs to include it which most do now. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for ever buying rom manager but I guess it was the noob in me.
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Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.
CBowley said:
Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.
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For our phone.
There's definitely nothing wrong with CWM. Blame rom manager if you must place the blame anywhere besides yourself.
I bought rom manager to support clockworkmod and have access to the latest clockworkmod versions. I think they have provided a wonderful tool. Anyway, I actually never used it except to check for roms and latest clockworkmod.
I've flashed the touch version of clockworkmod (downloaded the .img file from the clockrkmod web site) on my ns4g using adb and fastboot (thanks to Paul627 for the tutorial).
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I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Linux215 said:
I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Yes it does. I use it all the time. Do NOT use any form of touch recovery. There is one out there that is safe but right now do NOT use touch recovery.
Touch recovery has been blamed for bricking phones best to steer clear of it altogether.
There are some issues with Rom Manager, I'm sure someone will let you know. FYI, Rom manager uses a v5.0.2.7 CWM based recovery for our phone. Do not use it with any of the ICS based roms, cwm is not compatible with them currently.
Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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Linux215 said:
Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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The gingerbread based ROMs usually come with a kernel that has recovery built-in so those are safe to use the way they are.
Can't emphasize enough though not to use recovery in ICS though.
Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Linux215 said:
Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Ah gotcha. First of all, I wouldn't recommend using rom manager to do anything but backups and restores. Yes, you can click Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, make sure you select the 'Samsung Epic 4G Touch'.
Lastly, I have no friggin clue what those roms/rom updates are listed there and how they get flashed or what would happen if something goes sideways so I stick with the XDA known and tried roms that you can get support for.
You cannot use Rom Manager because these need to be flashed according to the instructions posted with each rom. They are almost identical and its very easy to do.
Short version is, I recommend Rom Manager as an easy way to backup and restore your android OS from an interface. Beyond that, I think you're taking unecessary risks. There's a thread around here somewhere about how Rom Manger is very very bad.
I would recommend you read the instructions for any thread you are planning on utilizing closely and follow the directions listed in those threads. Don't assume past Android experience gives a license to skim the reading. Every phone is slightly different and has nuances that can become issues of glossed over. There are often reasons why the instructions are written the way they are.
I've had this phone for a while now, I was just re installing some apps and seen it and just wanted to know if it had a section for our phone that's its
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when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Tungsten c said:
when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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You should not use rom manager, especially if you are on an ICS rom. It needs to install its own version of cwm and could royally mess up the phone.
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Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Tungsten c said:
Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Best bet is what you said - Power Off, then power+volume up to get into a recovery. As for recovery Agat's has been great! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721065 and there are some specifically for CM9 and AOKP so if you plan on flashing any of those check those threads.
I saw CM9 was out and tried to use Rom Manager to upgrade. I was previously rooted.
It prompted me to install ClockworkMod first, which I did.
Then I downloaded the ROM (prompted me to select T-Mobile Galaxy S2)
Rebooted to take a backup, phone flashes Samsung once and then black screen.
How badly did I screw up?
First off why are u using rom manager to flash a rom? Rom manager is not a reliable app u should do it manually in recovery
The better way to ask would be how can I fix this, not how bad did you screw up. Hence the unhelpful answers.
Can you get into download mode or recovery manually with a battery pull and the right key presses?
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casonswag said:
First off why are u using rom manager to flash a rom? Rom manager is not a reliable app u should do it manually in recovery
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Great answer to the question though... I wont blast you but honestly rom manager has been the cause of more problems for the very thing you just did than I can imagine. Leave that app alone and learn how to do things the for the lack of a better word (hard way). It is way more gratifying believe me.
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The better way to ask would be how can I fix this, not how bad did you screw up. Hence the unhelpful answers.
Can you get into download mode or recovery manually with a battery pull and the right key presses?
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You are right as well but ya know what a couple of smart ass responses to someone in this case will stick with him and hopefully he will never make a move like this again...
Ok now to help you, see if you can get into download mode and odin a recovery onto your phone. If not try and odin back to stock and start over from scratch. I am sure you have a backup on your phone so you can always restore that.
Now while your phone is being fixed do some reading up before you jump into things. Flashing is an addiction but it can also be a very expensive habit (If you know what I mean)
Edit: Just noticed Florida is up in here thick!
I've been flashing roms since MyTouch3G and Windows Mobile days.
I just thought Rom Manager was more dependable than that. It even prompted me for my device type...
I'm unable to get into recovery but I am able to get into download mode, so I'll revert with Odin and reroot this evening...
keenerb said:
I've been flashing roms since MyTouch3G and Windows Mobile days.
I just thought Rom Manager was more dependable than that. It even prompted me for my device type...
I'm unable to get into recovery but I am able to get into download mode, so I'll revert with Odin and reroot this evening...
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All u gotta do is look for the recoveries all in dev section theres like three u can choose from first find one that u can flash through odin to get u started
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All u gotta do is look for the recoveries all in dev section theres like three u can choose from first find one that u can flash through odin to get u started
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Yeah, I got it sorted out after I got home. Just re-flashed recovery, it's all good now.
Thanks everyone.
Looks like you had better luck than me, Rom Manager bricked my phone when I told it to do a backup.
I have used rom manager in the past just to boot into recovery... I don't know why but for what ever reason, today I decided I was going to update to the latest AOKP, I launched ROM MANAGER to check which version of clockwork I had installed, it said I had the latest so I chose the option to reboot into recovery, phone turned off I thought it was going to reboot into recovery but it never turned back on. I can't get my phone to power on, I also can't get it to go into download mode. No signs of life... Looks like phone shopping time. And I did do some research on this and seems I am not the only person this has ever happened to.
Yea I heard this a lot, sucks that it does it
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ArcticFish said:
Yea I heard this a lot, sucks that it does it
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Yea I honestly think developers of new roms should block access to Rom Manager it is obviously buggy and for what ever reason it CAN brick phones just by trying to reboot to recovery... who knows how that is even possible. A reboot should not brick a phone it doesn't make sense to me... so rom manager must be doing something crazy when trying to boot into recovery unless someone knows how I can get my phone to download mode it honestly seems bricked.
So you were on clockwork recovery?
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So you were on clockwork recovery?
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Yes clockwork mod recovery was installed... I have used it numerous times with this phone to flash roms etc... the problem isn't with clockwork mod, but the app ROM MANAGER that you can use to flash clockwork mod recovery and also use to boot into clockwork mod recovery.
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Yea I heard this a lot, sucks that it does it
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They should stop cwr then because if my phone would at gotten bricked i would at been going ham wordd specially if its a known issue
Maybe using adb you can delete everything and then Odin back. Just an idea. I've never truly bricked so no real experience except knowing that if you can connect through adb you may have a chance.
Excellent luck to you. This almost qualifies as a development article.
More like a :Notice: of some under development. Good for others to know.. I my self in the past have used the cwm.APK to reboot many of times so maybe its the ROM plus cwm combo that caused this problem. Again, just speculating.
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I use ROM manager all the time. All I do on it is flash the latest official CWM though. I never download or.flash ROMs off of it. I think that this mishap was specific to your situation. Millions use ROM manager. If the issue was the app itself there would be an uprising at Koushs front door demanding blood lol.
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Reinstall T989 drivers on your PC make sure you do that first then hold down volume up and down while plugging in USB to PC you should be good to Odin from there let me no and good luck!
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Hopefully adb will work....I have used rom manager many times to download roms in the past but have never used rm to flash or reboot my device. Thanks for the heads up and good luck.
Why are you Using Rom Manager? Use the Classic Way bro.
I thought Rom mamager was built for the HD2, it still brings up all those old roms for it.
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androidEyez said:
Reinstall T989 drivers on your PC make sure you do that first then hold down volume up and down while plugging in USB to PC you should be good to Odin from there let me no and good luck!
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My PC doesn't recognize it at all nothing... are drivers needed in order to get to download mode? I just installed windows 8 via update and kept all my old settings, before this happened this morning I was able to access my phone and everything like normal in windows 8... just curious if you can get to download mode by hooking it up to a wall charger and the volume buttons... Just to see if the phone will even get to download mode. I have tried volume down, volume up and down, power volume up and down... nothing is working doesn't make any sense.
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I thought Rom mamager was built for the HD2, it still brings up all those old roms for it.
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T989 comes up as an option to install clockwork mod recovery. Again I have used it for a long time but have never installed a rom through it... just used it to flash clockwork and have booted to recovery a few times. Usually I would boot to recovery the manual way but since I was already in Rom Manager to check clockwork mod version I just tried to reboot into clockwork from there since I was already there.
Yet another thread in development that has absolutely nothing to do with development. Please do us a favor and PM a mod to move this and PLEASE watch the noob video!!:banghead:
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Yet another thread in development that has absolutely nothing to do with development. Please do us a favor and PM a mod to move this and PLEASE watch the noob video!!:banghead:
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Yea your right move it somewhere no one is going to see it... sounds like a great idea. NOOB video... I am far from a noob but thanks for giving your opinion.
While you're going to get that Mod to move this, consider re-titling the thread to something a little less emotionally driven.
Bad things happen. Your experience is not sufficient cause to decree Rom Manager unusable.
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bowenac said:
Yea your right move it somewhere no one is going to see it... sounds like a great idea. NOOB video... I am far from a noob but thanks for giving your opinion.
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81 posts and posting opinions in the Dev section, hmm. Nope, you need to watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
bowenac said:
Yea your right move it somewhere no one is going to see it... sounds like a great idea. NOOB video... I am far from a noob but thanks for giving your opinion.
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No need to get sarcastic with Loop. He's 100% correct that your thread is miss categorized.
And those categories are not based upon where you personally believe a post will or won't receive enough viewers.
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kentfor said:
No need to get sarcastic with Loop. He's 100% correct that your thread is miss categorized.
And those categories are not based upon where you personally believe a post will or won't receive enough viewers.
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Sorry for the sarcastic tone. Just seems lately, there has been to many miscategorized threads