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Samsung Galaxy S II gets Android 2.3.6 update

I haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, and yes, I know there's another thread about the "confirmed" Dec update from a top dev but I figured this is worthy of its own thread. Sounds like the update might only be for the GSM versions of the phone, and we might have to wait for our specific Epic Touch update, but things must be close at this point.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-android-236-update/

Go figure....
Sent from the future.

Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!

[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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Indeed my friend.
Sent from the future.

Carriers hold back updates??? They would never do such thing.
I know some updates the carrier has to purchase from the manufacturer and some are free. I don't quite understand where the dividing line is but having to pay for an update would surely slow down a carrier's intention of pushing an update.

Warning about updates
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.

so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?

ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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Can't wait hah

i hope sprint drops ics first and all you people *****ing about no updates can be quiet for once.
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ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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weltwon said:
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
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Well said!!
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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Amen brotha!

Once the first XDA user who knows what they're doing gets an update, it will be posted here so fast that many will find out about it here, not by getting it via OTA. They push them out over several days so most likely there will be a full stock tar to Odin before many of us get it.
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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OK... Thanks.. I didn't know how it worked. This is my first rooted phone.
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[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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What the..... ?
How...?
Because the international version is getting something first?
Okay.... the international version also came out first.
The international versions of Samsung devices always get it first.
Samsung has proven time and time again that they are more concerned about the international market than they are the U.S.
It's funny how quickly people forget about history when trying to assign blame.
It's like XDA members live their lives to blame the carriers for everything.
Dammit, it's raining and cold out side, stupid Sprint!

It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.

Dchibro said:
It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It's GSM.
There's very little, if any difference, between the international version of the SGS2 and the At&t version.

People also seem to forget that the Moment got Froyo before the Hero did.

looks like were getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!

expertzero1 said:
looks like where getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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Given Samsung's spotty support for CDMA devices, I'd rather they spend time on ICS.

We should be getting a update tonight or tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362744
One member got a update pushed to their phone but has to wait till after class so the devs can work their magic. Its android 2.3.6
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CDMA GNex

Hi all. I just got my GNex from Verizon. I've heard things about this phone on the CDMA side being abandoned by devs. Is this true? If so, should I get a different phone (I still have 9 days to take it back)? I'm coming from a DX, so I love hacking and flashing.. If this phone is still a keeper...can someone point me in the right direction to a thread for rooting and ROMs and flashing (oh my!)?
Thanks all
-Path
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Where did you hear that this phone was being abandoned?!
Keep it, you will be glad you did.

It is not being abandoned, Google is just dropping official support for it. That's it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Miscellaneous posts from people lol
I thought it was odd considering I bought this phone because it was known for being hackable..
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Here is a thread to get you started for unlocking and rooting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
Check out this forum for all kinds of ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1455

joshnichols189 said:
It is not being abandoned, Google is just dropping official support for it. That's it.
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Google just dropped it as a developer phone. the updates will still be rolling out.Google stated that clearly. the update might take a bit longer than the GSM nexus..but v will still get it....
trust me the nexus will see updates quicker than anybody.
the nexus will see official version 5.0 android os... None of the Droid line ups will see official android 5.0 version on them..trust me
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PathologyX said:
Hi all. I just got my GNex from Verizon. I've heard things about this phone on the CDMA side being abandoned by devs. Is this true? If so, should I get a different phone (I still have 9 days to take it back)? ...
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Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.

I have to have Verizon though :\
Where I live, GSM carriers (ATT is really the only one) get horrid service..
So, knowing that, what's your opinion?
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Keep it...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

PathologyX said:
I have to have Verizon though :\
Where I live, GSM carriers (ATT is really the only one) get horrid service..
So, knowing that, what's your opinion?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
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Please don't listen to this guy he has been trolling these boards for a couple days now, makes me wonder if the mods are on vacation
(Last part of that was a joke/sarcasm of course)
Verizon is just as hackable, you will have no shortage of ROM's for at least a year or year and a half.

Okay, good to know
Thanks for all of your help/suggestions (minus the troll.. gtfo)
I'll keep it then ;D
Now let's see if I can hack this one worse than my DX xD doubtful
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

josteink said:
Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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Claiming misinformation as fact - check
Trolls numerous CDMA GN threads - check
Listen, bud, the *only* things missing are the blobs, which can be extracted, no need for any hacking ATM, by users.
The fact that you need to result to swearing just goes to show how juvenile you really are.
Bloatware? Two apps? Hardly a big deal unless it is you trying to make a point by drastic exaggeration. Those on these boards who have the phone are running ROMs that doesn't include them so it is opt-in.
Tethering removed? That is just an outright fabrication by you.
Enjoy your GSM and let the OP enjoy twice the storage capacity of your phone and four times the transfer speed of yours.

mutelight said:
Claiming misinformation as fact - check
Trolls numerous CDMA GN threads - check
Listen, bud, the *only* things missing are the blobs, which can be extracted, no need for any hacking ATM, by users.
The fact that you need to result to swearing just goes to show how juvenile you really are.
Bloatware? Two apps? Hardly a big deal unless it is you trying to make a point by drastic exaggeration. Those on these boards who have the phone are running ROMs that doesn't include them so it is opt-in.
Tethering removed? That is just an outright fabrication by you.
Enjoy your GSM and let the OP enjoy twice the storage capacity of your phone and four times the transfer speed of yours.
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Funny thing is, on ICS the bloatware can be "Disabled" which is basically the same thing as freezing the app in TiBu which also removes it from your app drawer and stops it from running, essentially removing it from your phone.
Oh and I think what he means in terms of tether is that you have to pay to use it, which is the same with any other carrier just with the CDMA model it is pre built in that it is blocked.
Either way this guy is just an obvious troll.

Me a troll? Come on. Sorry for spreading the good word of freedom around the Nexus forums then.
If anyone should be called a troll at this point it should be Verizon. So far they've completely butchered the Nexus program, and nobody is even pointing a finger at them.
Good job. Really. I'd be surprised to see Google even bother with a non-standard carrier anytime again, if the Nexus program isn't sabotaged enough to be dead by then.
I'll piss off. Enjoy your carrier-approved, carrier-branded Nexus.
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miketoasty said:
Oh and I think what he means in terms of tether is that you have to pay to use it, which is the same with any other carrier just with the CDMA model it is pre built in that it is blocked.
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On all carriers I have had, I pay for data. How I use it is entirely up to me. Tethering is a phone-level function and not anything the carrier can or should control.
And least of all disable or strip free, built-in tethering from the phone. Jesus christ that is invasive to the point of being illegal where I live.
Sorry. There is a free market out there, and there **** like this is not accepted. I thought people buying Nexus-devices would be aware of things like that.
I guess that defines a troll around here, being European.

josteink said:
Me a troll? Come on. Sorry for spreading the good word of freedom around the Nexus forums then.
If anyone should be called a troll at this point it should be Verizon. So far they've completely butchered the Nexus program, and nobody is even pointing a finger at them.
Good job. Really. I'd be surprised to see Google even bother with a non-standard carrier anytime again, if the Nexus program isn't sabotaged enough to be dead by then.
I'll piss off. Enjoy your carrier-approved, carrier-branded Nexus.
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What did Verizon do in all this mess other than put their name on the back and put some (Removable) bloatware on the phone?
You don't back up your points at all but whine about how terrible this phone is, obvious troll is obvious.

miketoasty said:
What did Verizon do in all this mess other than put their name on the back and put some (Removable) bloatware on the phone?
You don't back up your points at all but whine about how terrible this phone is, obvious troll is obvious.
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They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.

josteink said:
On all carriers I have had, I pay for data. How I use it is entirely up to me. Tethering is a phone-level function and not anything the carrier can or should control.
And least of all disable or strip free, built-in tethering from the phone. Jesus christ that is invasive to the point of being illegal where I live.
Sorry. There is a free market out there, and there **** like this is not accepted. I thought people buying Nexus-devices would be aware of things like that.
I guess that defines a troll around here, being European.
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You are free to use data as you wish, as it is pre defined in your agreement you make with the carrier when you use their network. Verizon has tethering in their contract as a paid service. I understand it may be different where you live but here in the states that's just how it is.
The tethering is usable once you enable a tethering plan to your account so why would they remove it?
Yes there is a free market out there but there are also contracts we sign so we can use these phones, and like I said it may be different around here than it is out there.
Enjoy your phone and we will continue to live in our idiotic bliss.
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They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
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Read above post, and they stripped nothing, just added a message (If you don't pay for the service) that you need to pay for it before you use it.

josteink said:
They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
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If you don't have the technical knowledge, then don't speak of what you do not know.
They stripped nothing. They have a provisioning apk in place for legit users. Its easily bypassed and we leave it out of aosp.

josteink said:
Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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u mad
......

josteink said:
... It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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I'd return it asap.. who'd ever want to be the laughing stock of the internet!?

Was it a bad idea to get US version?/Also T-Mobile?

I keep seeing all these Roms pop up for the i9300 International version.. and now they are ALREADY starting work on Jelly bean for it...
And yet we (US versions) (especially T-Mobile) don't really have anything.. i'm kind of regretting going US- Anyone else feeling the same?
it would be nice if we could use the same Roms as the international versions.
i'm a past Galaxy note user, and i might go back to that for the time being because the Rom i had for that "Stratosphere" was freaking AMAZING...
(Sorry realize I should have posted this in general )

Banned!!! Lol jk. No development is going to explode soon. Devs are just figuring out how to make devices carrier compatible and they are also just getting the devices. Alot of carriers have limited supply of the phone.
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benefit14snake said:
Banned!!! Lol jk. No development is going to explode soon. Devs are just figuring out how to make devices carrier compatible and they are also just getting the devices. Alot of carriers have limited supply of the phone.
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Yeah sorry i had clicked on the wrong bookmark in Chrome and just hit New thread without even looking... lol

computermilk said:
I keep seeing all these Roms pop up for the i9300 International version.. and now they are ALREADY starting work on Jelly bean for it...
And yet we (US versions) (especially T-Mobile) don't really have anything.. i'm kind of regretting going US- Anyone else feeling the same?
it would be nice if we could use the same Roms as the international versions.
i'm a past Galaxy note user, and i might go back to that for the time being because the Rom i had for that "Stratosphere" was freaking AMAZING...
(Sorry realize I should have posted this in general )
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Yes you're right, this should be moved to the general section. The main problem with the international version for t mobile is you'll only get edge network speeds. You are right though typically the international versions get more Rom attention at the local versions do. I need my 4G so I'm happy with the t mobile version version
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my god the phones been out a week for tmo and im pretty sure not all developers even have one plus there is a rom and jellybean is being looked into now. may wanna read development posting rules also.:angel:

chill... this phone will have everything the international one has and more. keep in mind, its only been out since the 21st, supply was limited. nothing we can do about that. we have some great things to come especially since the different carriers all have pretty much the same hardware so there will be A LOT of roms. this phone will be epic. so sit down and shut up and watch the show!
BTW wrong section. =)

Its still really early mang give it some time

Radsolutionz said:
chill... this phone will have everything the international one has and more. keep in mind, its only been out since the 21st, supply was limited. nothing we can do about that. we have some great things to come especially since the different carriers all have pretty much the same hardware so there will be A LOT of roms. this phone will be epic. so sit down and shut up and watch the show!
BTW wrong section. =)
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im new to gsm life but in cdma side of xda you get bashed hard for posting crap in dev forum, kinda miss that and have lots of "flame" pictures to post.

Patience is a virtue... it's gonna happen sooner rather than later.
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jwalters1123 said:
Patience is a virtue... it's gonna happen sooner rather than later.
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Thanks guys =)

Also remember you phone is worth a ton right now....you could always sell it and buy the international version....it will be a win win for you.....quad core and a ton of development ....
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Yeah I'm like the dude who post this in the wrong section. (lol) Hurry the hell up making these damn roms!!!! Jk
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Everytime a new device this type of thread is created. Most people can't even get this phone yet. Just chill.
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We just have to wait.... im coming from the international s3 i know how you feel...

Radsolutionz said:
chill... this phone will have everything the international one has and more. keep in mind, its only been out since the 21st, supply was limited. nothing we can do about that. we have some great things to come especially since the different carriers all have pretty much the same hardware so there will be A LOT of roms. this phone will be epic. so sit down and shut up and watch the show!
BTW wrong section. =)
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I would agree that it should have as much development but the international one will more than likely get quicker updates. So all in all I wouldn't really say its gonna have more. Both phones have their pluses and minuses. Even though all the US variants share common hardware combined they are still aimed at a smaller target market than the International model. Less people owning it = less development usually. I'm on T-Mobile myself but would rather have edge and the Int model than 4G and the s4 processor. Either way you win with this phone, its amazing in any variation.
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I don't see how anyone could want an international version on edge speeds with t-mobile over the U.S. dual-core with 4g speeds lol. I mean it's cool to tell people that your phone is quad-core, but c'mon. And I get as much satisfaction telling people my phone has 2gb's of RAM lol
And obviously it's early but development is going to be crazy on this phone. Dev's push other Dev's to work harder so it's almost like exponential growth when it really gets going (look at the Galaxy Nexus forums). Plus as it looks like the Galaxy Nexus has been banned in the U.S. you can bet we'll get even more dev's jumping on here

Thats what im saying .... Like people that use iphones on TMobile or Simple Mobile and they still paying for 4G data .... SMh....
Darmokk said:
I don't see how anyone could want an international version on edge speeds with t-mobile over the U.S. dual-core with 4g speeds lol. I mean it's cool to tell people that your phone is quad-core, but c'mon. And I get as much satisfaction telling people my phone has 2gb's of RAM lol
And obviously it's early but development is going to be crazy on this phone. Dev's push other Dev's to work harder so it's almost like exponential growth when it really gets going (look at the Galaxy Nexus forums). Plus as it looks like the Galaxy Nexus has been banned in the U.S. you can bet we'll get even more dev's jumping on here
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Darmokk said:
I don't see how anyone could want an international version on edge speeds with t-mobile over the U.S. dual-core with 4g speeds lol. I mean it's cool to tell people that your phone is quad-core, but c'mon. And I get as much satisfaction telling people my phone has 2gb's of RAM lol
And obviously it's early but development is going to be crazy on this phone. Dev's push other Dev's to work harder so it's almost like exponential growth when it really gets going (look at the Galaxy Nexus forums). Plus as it looks like the Galaxy Nexus has been banned in the U.S. you can bet we'll get even more dev's jumping on here
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T-Mobile is refarming their 1900mhz spectrum for 3/4G data so some people can already use the Int version on T-Mobile 3/4G. The want for a quad core phone isn't for **** sizing contest as you suggest here at least not for me. A perfectly fluid UI and gaming/browser performance are my main motivations. I live in MN and barely get anything above edge on my galaxy nexus anyway so having only edge really doesn't affect me, that's what WiFi is for. If I used my mobile plan for my data needs I'd get throttled in a day. My mother had a HTC one s with the s4 processor while speedy it still couldn't keep up with an qHD resolution. Again I think both devices are top notch and both have advantages over one another so I think I boils down to preference.
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You gotta remember the international version has been out for a month, the TMO source code only released a few days ago, and the stock ROM like 2 days ago. International development has had a month headstart on us. We'll catch up. Not regretting my purchase at all. We'll be fine.

Heck no bro tmobile sgs2 has some of the best developers I've ever seen mainly roman, whitehawk and tdj. Tdj is amazing and I'm sure someone will get him a s3 in due time. If you want 4g then you gotta stick with us carriers, int does not have right radio for tmobile and no lte.
Tmobile is the only 4g in my area and it rocks. No idea when lte is ever going to come so its tm for me.
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[Q] AT&T Development - Lack of ROMs and other questions.

Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
Is there something developers are waiting for so they can start making ROMs?
Also, wouldn't it be smarter to rename the AT&T Development forum to "AT&T and Rogers Development"? It was quite confusing for me when I was first looking for the forum.
One last question. If I were to flash the kyanROM or the Ultimatun ROM, would it display "4G" instead of "LTE"? The stock Rogers ROM displays LTE. I just upgraded from the HTC One XL and they had the same setup, always the same as the AT&T model but all the ROMs had the 4G symbol instead of LTE.
Thanks for reading, and thank you in advanced for your answers.

Hypercore said:
Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
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I do believe its because alot of the dev's are waiting on their phones to arrive. The phone just got released by mail,(not in stores yet). So I think as they start to get their phones we will see more roms popping up. I am rooted but I have yet to flash a rom. I am still running stock.. I am waiting for a bigger selection.

yea you are going to have to wait i would say about 1/8 of the people who want the phone have one. I got lucky when getting mine.

So basically the developers are waiting for their phones to arrive so they can start work on building custom ROMs?
That makes sense, thanks for the reply. Can't wait until I can unleash the potential of this beast.

yes, you gotta think the international version has been out for a min. now, and didnt have to deal with nearly as many shortages due to supply and demand kinda of deal. Here we have shortages all across just about every carrier. Some people got their phones, others are waiting until their pre orders come, some are waiting until they are sold in stores, I give it a few more weeks, maybe even a month and we will all get our fix of ROMS, im definitely excited on how they will get them to work across the major carriers here.

The default behavior for the icons on AT&T is as follows:
E = Edge
3G = 3G area, should be almost nowhere in the states anyway
4G = HSPA+, or 3.5G or whatever you want to call it.
4Glte = LTE network
Of course any custom ROM can change those, and you'll need to make sure you have the proper APN settings for your carrier.
Hope that helps,
Hypercore said:
Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
Is there something developers are waiting for so they can start making ROMs?
Also, wouldn't it be smarter to rename the AT&T Development forum to "AT&T and Rogers Development"? It was quite confusing for me when I was first looking for the forum.
One last question. If I were to flash the kyanROM or the Ultimatun ROM, would it display "4G" instead of "LTE"? The stock Rogers ROM displays LTE. I just upgraded from the HTC One XL and they had the same setup, always the same as the AT&T model but all the ROMs had the 4G symbol instead of LTE.
Thanks for reading, and thank you in advanced for your answers.
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Excited for some custom ROMs to start showing up in the coming weeks! Running CM9 on my I9000 right how and can't stand touchwiz!

Jsick said:
Excited for some custom ROMs to start showing up in the coming weeks! Running CM9 on my I9000 right how and can't stand touchwiz!
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I'm not a touchwiz fan either, but when I use a 3rd party launcher (e.g. Nova Prime, Apex, Go Launcher) it removes most of the annoying things imho.

I am working on a rom myself, though it is more difficult since none of the windows based tools function well at all for ICS 4.0.4 TW based stuff. I could install a VM of Linux but I don't have the time for that right now. I will get around to it.

Don't worry you guys will get tons of ROM's soon. Same thing happened with the I777 .GS2, started really slow then they blew up.
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Most people just started receiving there phones and working on custom roms. If you itching to flash try working on your own rom i did and its very unstable but I'm getting there. It require more time then i thought. We should be good on roms in a few weeks.
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thinking of trading my galaxy s3 for a galaxy nexus?

Should i ? Or just keep the s3?
spec wise i would keep the s3 since its more newer than the nexus
I really love flashing roms which the nexus has lots of..
But i did buy my s3 1 month ago so its literally brand new if i do
A trade i dont wanna be waisting my money that i used to get it
So idk should i do a trade??
Any ideas/opinions is greatly appreciated
-thanks

LOL! You sound like a woman.

That would be downgrading. The nexus device is nice but its also dated now. Since you have already got the newest and fastest device on the market, why not just keep it?
The nexus doest grab my attention like the S3 does. The S3 has more features, screen space and ram. But until you try one side by side, you be the judge. Good luck with your choice.

bighulk666 said:
LOL! You sound like a woman.
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Lol & you sound like a retard.. its just a simple yes or no question
Have nothing to say regarding the topic, dont like my post then simply
Ignore it and move on

1SiK1500 said:
That would be downgrading. The nexus device is nice but its also dated now. Since you have already got the newest and fastest device on the market, why not just keep it?
The nexus doest grab my attention like the S3 does. The S3 has more features, screen space and ram. But until you try one side by side, you be the judge. Good luck with your choice.
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Thankyou for your opinion, thats whats making me stuck in the middle.. like you said it is downgrading

This situation was the opposite for me. My previous phone was the Galaxy Nexus. I still have both and comparing side by side, I am happier with the GS3. I also understand that it's kinda "slow" here in terms of development for the GS3 compared to the nexus, but there are several awesome, stable roms from which to choose. Not to mention that it's still early in game and development will definitely kick off in the near future.

Infamous_Cheez said:
This situation was the opposite for me. My previous phone was the Galaxy Nexus. I still have both and comparing side by side, I am happier with the GS3. I also understand that it's kinda "slow" here in terms of development for the GS3 compared to the nexus, but there are several awesome, stable roms from which to choose. Not to mention that it's still early in game and development will definitely kick off in the near future.
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Agree the development for the u.s varient is slow but then again it is still early i dont want to regret it
Later on if i do the trade, maybe i should just stick with the s3.. it is newer better specs bigger screen etc..

I do usually adapt to the lastest and greatest tech and jump around. I see this device lasting for quite some time. I know other such as HTC will make a run for top. But this is my first Samsung device and i am more than pleased. I did manage to drop and crack my screen the day before my otterbox came in. Once it is replaced ill be a happy camper.
Another topic. Rooting the phone. Ive flashed so many roms on my last few phones that I feel compelled to NOT root the S3. The device works flawlessly and i dont want any unstable crashes or lags.
With the updated launchers working so well these days, i can fully customize my phone with out having to root it. Once Jellybean hits there will be nothing better for a while.
Coming from a rooted device, i truely see no need to root. I dont need backups if im not screwing with it. Aside from wifi tethering (which i have) its not required for me.

marcviado said:
Should i ? Or just keep the s3?
spec wise i would keep the s3 since its more newer than the nexus
I really love flashing roms which the nexus has lots of..
But i did buy my s3 1 month ago so its literally brand new if i do
A trade i dont wanna be waisting my money that i used to get it
So idk should i do a trade??
Any ideas/opinions is greatly appreciated
-thanks
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nooo don't do it!! my buddy has a galaxy nexus and he's always complaining about data speeds, nexus is 21mb while s3 is 42mb modem.. also his has jelly bean but mine is still much snappier and faster.. better camera too, less ram.. smaller screen.. i can go on and on.
SGS3>Galaxy Nexus. Case closed.

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Coming from a rooted device, i truely see no need to root. I dont need backups if im not screwing with it. Aside from wifi tethering (which i have) its not required for me.
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After reading your comment I was compelled to check and see how many of my apps require root. Currently only 3 of them do lol. The main reason I rooted my phone was because I did not like the green framework of stock....ICS is beautiful! I won't lie though, it's kind of second nature for me to immediately root even if unnecessary.
Crisisx1 said:
nooo don't do it!! my buddy has a galaxy nexus and he's always complaining about data speeds, nexus is 21mb while s3 is 42mb modem.. also his has jelly bean but mine is still much snappier and faster.. better camera too, less ram.. smaller screen.. i can go on and on.
SGS3>Galaxy Nexus. Case closed.
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Data speeds are subjective. Even though the GS3 is capable of 42mbps I have never even come close to to that; not even the 21mbps that the nexus tops off at. All your other points are solid though.

Infamous_Cheez said:
After reading your comment I was compelled to check and see how many of my apps require root. Currently only 3 of them do lol. The main reason I rooted my phone was because I did not like the green framework of stock....ICS is beautiful! I won't lie though, it's kind of second nature for me to immediately root even if unnecessary.
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Agreed. But runner a nice Apex Or Nova Launcher has changed from what it used to be. Besides i have insurance and a warranty. When i had my sensation, i flashed so many unstable roms, RILs, Radios, That i didnt know if my phone would every fully function again. I dont want to deal with that. I support the Dev community %100. To each their own!

Infamous_Cheez said:
After reading your comment I was compelled to check and see how many of my apps require root. Currently only 3 of them do lol. The main reason I rooted my phone was because I did not like the green framework of stock....ICS is beautiful! I won't lie though, it's kind of second nature for me to immediately root even if unnecessary.
Data speeds are subjective. Even though the GS3 is capable of 42mbps I have never even come close to to that; not even the 21mbps that the nexus tops off at. All your other points are solid though.
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^ very true, but i doubt i would get these kind of speeds on a galaxy nexus... 26 mb.

I've had 3 galaxy nexus pass through my hands. don't do it
Keep the s3
Development is really picking up
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^ very true, but i doubt i would get these kind of speeds on a galaxy nexus... 26 mb.
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Wow! Those are impressive! The fastest I have ever gotten was 12mbps....

the main reason why i'd want to root is to just restore my apps and games with the saved settings and data. anyone else root for that reason, to restore titanium backup data?

Cobra281 said:
the main reason why i'd want to root is to just restore my apps and games with the saved settings and data. anyone else root for that reason, to restore titanium backup data?
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+1
...and this is how my crackflashing habit began. lol

Cobra281 said:
the main reason why i'd want to root is to just restore my apps and games with the saved settings and data. anyone else root for that reason, to restore titanium backup data?
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That's mainly why I rooted. I am on stock ROM, just rooted for back ups, plus I needed wifi tethering.

pytyper483 said:
That's mainly why I rooted. I am on stock ROM, just rooted for back ups, plus I needed wifi tethering.
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hah, you just reminded that i also need to root to use the sixaxis controller. playing ps1 games with this much power(a lot more than my old G2) is going to be sweeeeeet

Guys.. what are your thoughts on maybe an unlocked at&t galaxy note or an international one x
I posted my phone on cl to see what offers i get i did get alot of galaxy nexus but i decieded to keep
My s3 over that.. now i got galaxy note and htc one x offers

marcviado said:
Guys.. what are your thoughts on maybe an unlocked at&t galaxy note or an international one x
I posted my phone on cl to see what offers i get i did get alot of galaxy nexus but i decieded to keep
My s3 over that.. now i got galaxy note and htc one x offers
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the ONE X QUAD CORE is coming to t-mobile, DO NOT trade it for a international version (i had one, 2g makes u wanna cry, esp when you have to find a special sim to use it) . Also the NOTE does not work perfectly (if atnt) so don't bother with that either. Just wait a bit..