The way you can distinguish between EDGE and HSPA. Is it it's own individual thing or does it just show up as fast HSPA? Basically, how do I know if I'm connected?
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...."Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk" Oh im sorry, I see you are using a Nexus S, you will not be able to use HSPA + LOLOL ROFL COPTER FAILBLOG
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I actually ordered a G2 today. That's why I'm asking on the G2 board, asshole.
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It depends on which ROM you're using.
On the stock G2 ROM, T-Mobile programmed it so you only either see E for EDGE or H for anything from UMTS to HSDPA to HSPA+.
If you install a Sense ROM, you'll see the correct indicator. I.e. an E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS/HSDPA, and an H for HSPA+.
I have no idea what Cyanogen will show you, as I haven't used CM on my G2, but I would imagine it'd be the same as the Sense ROMs.
Basically, T-Mobile wants you to believe you're *always* on HSPA+, but the non-carrier-backed ROMs tell the truth.
the orange bandit said:
If you install a Sense ROM, you'll see the correct indicator. I.e. an E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS/HSDPA, and an H for HSPA+.
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The Sense ROMs show 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+.
Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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Correct. You *can* switch to EDGE-only if you wish (I do this at work cause I have WiFi and my cubicle is a black hole) but you don't need to do anything special to 'activate' HSPA+
HSPA+ is really just a faster HSDPA revision. Nothing special.
You should get the same H logo from as low as 1.2 Mbps HSDPA to at least 21 Mbps HSPA+ and probably more.
Also, technically, I think that 14.4 Mbps is still part of the HSDPA 3GPP release 5 revision. 21 Mbps is the newer release 7 HSPA+. So even if there were a "H+" sign, the Desire Z/G2 should never use it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
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Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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CM does show 3g and H.
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heybobitsme said:
CM does show 3g and H.
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So this convention: 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+?
TheBiles said:
So this convention: 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+?
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I'm assuming. I've seen it change, but haven't looked at the wireless status to confirm.
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My phone is still on stock rom. I get.....
E
G
H
H+
I guess my phone has an update or something.
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My phone is still on stock rom. I get.....
E
G
H
H+
I guess my phone has an update or something.
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This is what I was hoping for. Maybe there's a theme for CM.
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I can 100% say that CM shows G for GSM, or whatever the exact term is. E for edge, 3G for when you are in 3G and H for HSPA+. I've flashed several diffeernt roms and everyone I have flashed(other than stock) show the true data.
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PatrickHuey said:
I can 100% say that CM shows G for GSM, or whatever the exact term is. E for edge, 3G for when you are in 3G and H for HSPA+.
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Sorry if this seems pedantic, but doesn't it show "H" for HSPA or HSPA+ ? Not just for HSPA+ ?
On my unlocked tmobile comet (Ideos) , when I insert my HSPA+ Sim in, it shows HSPA in the "about phone" info options in settings as network type, but only bars with no 3G/4G icon. (possibly because I am not connecting completely)
Looks like I need to have my provider update my device so it works, but in theory it should.
There's a H+ icon?
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brewser123 said:
On my unlocked tmobile comet (Ideos) , when I insert my HSPA+ Sim in, it shows HSPA in the "about phone" info options in settings as network type, but only bars with no 3G/4G icon. (possibly because I am not connecting completely)
Looks like I need to have my provider update my device so it works, but in theory it should.
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Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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dontbes said:
There's a H+ icon?
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In some custom ROMs, yes. Not in the stock ROMs.
Alex530 said:
Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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No, in CM the 3G icon is UMTS, and the H icon is HSPA/HSPA+.
Alex530 said:
Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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Double facepalm youself LMAO!! UMTS is 3G (7.2), HSPA is 4G (14.4), and HSPA+ is 4G (21.1) also. You are right though, wtf is an hspa+ sim? The sim I've had since the days of my RAZR works just fine.
In CM ROMs (and most others):
G = GSM/GPRS
E = EDGE
3G = 3G aka UMTS
H = HSPA/HSPA+ aka 4G
Related
Did anyone notice the H+ icon on the HSPA+ version?(like on sgs2)
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Alekxxx said:
Did anyone notice the H+ icon on the HSPA+ version?(like on sgs2)
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I thought it was just 'H'
I guess so. It had to apper by now because i'm holding them both.
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No i definitely haven't I have been in all the same areas that I used to get it on my S2 and still haven't seen it, I dont think the GN has a symbol for it :/
stock android doesnt support custom connection icon's(letters).
GSM Nexus displays a "H" when connected to HSDPA.
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stock android doesnt support custom connection icon's(letters).
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Why's this? Surely it shows G, 3G and H then why not H+?
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GSM Nexus displays a "H" when connected to HSDPA.
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GSM HSPA+ displays "H" always
i'm sure cm9 will add support to show H+ should you indeed be in a HSPA+ capable area.
silly, google, they didn't show the HSPA icon on the nexus one and now they ignore the HSPA+ icon
to bad that HSPA+ isn't available at my place yet
I'm confused by you guys' posts. The G.Nex does tell you when its on 4(faux)G by displaying and H instead of simply "3G".
I hope the complain in this thread isn't because theres no "+" after the H.
note, there's HSPA and HSPA+. hence my post.
I live in the Dallas area and I have yet to see anything other than H on my Nexus and this is definitely a Tmobile FauxG area.
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I'm confused by you guys' posts. The G.Nex does tell you when its on 4(faux)G by displaying and H instead of simply "3G".
I hope the complain in this thread isn't because theres no "+" after the H.
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No, H is a very good internet speed here in the UK, but H+ is when you're in a better 3G area
With the S2 I got the H symbol at home and the H+ symbol at college, internet was much improved plus its nice to see it
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Yeah I think the final answer is that AOSP doesn't have the + version of the H icon. Maybe we'll see it in the future
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I am on tmobile and this is how the icons are:
2G: E
3G: 3G
"4G": H
how do you guys turn off 4g
Both the battery working so good and long I would ask you this:
Why?
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just wanna test 3g of tmobile
i do have unlimited 4g
mrej201 said:
just wanna test 3g of tmobile
i do have unlimited 4g
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4G and 3G are not actually different for Tmobile.
Wikipedia article on Evolved HSPA
So then, the question is how to turn off DC hspa. Which is probably not accessible through the maintenance menus.
But for many real world value metrics I don't know what you would gain.
Get the app called phone info
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I think there's an app for that. I forgot what its called but I think the toggles are Edge or HSPA+ umts only
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Phone info
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I'm wondering if the OP came from Sprint? Sprint's 4G was a separate (battery sucking) radio that you could turn on and off and needed to in order to protect the battery usage.
4g on TMo isn't like LTE, it's not a separate modem to turn off like AT&T, VZW, or sprint. It's really a hopped up version of 3G. Your choices are 3G/4G or Edge.
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I'm wondering if the OP came from Sprint? Sprint's 4G was a separate (battery sucking) radio that you could turn on and off and needed to in order to protect the battery usage.
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yea i did came from sprint that y i ask but thanx for the app guys
I occasionally see a G. Not sure what that is...
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I occasionally see a G. Not sure what that is...
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That is the 2G service.
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yea i did came from sprint that y i ask but thanx for the app guys
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On T-Mobile, there is no real differentiation between 3G and 4G. Both operate on the same spectrum. The only difference is the speeds. However, that is controlled, not by your phone, but by the tower you're connected to. It's easier to look at it as the same exact technology. For the purpose of this conversation, there is no more T-Mobile 3G. It's all 4G, or HSPA+, service now. The 3G brand has been retired in favor of the 4G moniker.
To put it all simply, 3G is the same as 4G on T-Mobile. To turn off 4G, you would drop down to 2G, or EDGE/GPRS, service.
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On T-Mobile, there is no real differentiation between 3G and 4G. Both operate on the same spectrum. The only difference is the speeds. However, that is controlled, not by your phone, but by the tower you're connected to. It's easier to look at it as the same exact technology. For the purpose of this conversation, there is no more T-Mobile 3G. It's all 4G, or HSPA+, service now. The 3G brand has been retired in favor of the 4G moniker.
To put it all simply, 3G is the same as 4G on T-Mobile. To turn off 4G, you would drop down to 2G, or EDGE/GPRS, service.
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And if you still want to do it.....go to settings - more settings - mobile networks - network mode and you can select "GSM only".
Strangely enough....there are a couple areas around where i live that my phone will show a 4G connection and absolutely refuses to open anything. I've found that if i switch to the "GSM only" option in those areas that at least i can get it working... slowly, but better than nothing.
Had the same issue with my previous phone. (G2) weird phantom 4G zone. :-/
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I have the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 android version 4.1.2 on MIUI.us 3.1.11. Everything is working fine, but I have noticed slightly slower speeds and I no longer see my LTE signal icon in the status bar? How can I tell if I still have LTE coverage? Is it still there, but just not being displayed anymore? Please advise.
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I have the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 android version 4.1.2 on MIUI.us 3.1.11. Everything is working fine, but I have noticed slightly slower speeds and I no longer see my LTE signal icon in the status bar? How can I tell if I still have LTE coverage? Is it still there, but just not being displayed anymore? Please advise.
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An image doesn't change much, I could swap it to change 2G (E) and it would still give me the same speed.. You can use speedtest app to see if you still get the same speed.
So I shouldn't be to concerned if the LTE icon is no longer being displayed? It was very helpful to have it, let's you know where the best coverage for LTE is at! Wonder why it's not being displayed anymore after rooting??
iphonezen said:
So I shouldn't be to concerned if the LTE icon is no longer being displayed? It was very helpful to have it, let's you know where the best coverage for LTE is at! Wonder why it's not being displayed anymore after rooting??
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what icon is it showing? 3G, H, H+, 4G?
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what icon is it showing? 3G, H, H+, 4G?
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Its showing 4G and H+
If it shows 4G that means LTE and H+ means regular "4G" at least in my experience
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If it shows 4G that means LTE and H+ means regular "4G" at least in my experience
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Almost. LTE is 4G but H+ is 3.5G.
Before I installed MIUI.us, it said LTE, 4G, and H+. Now, no LTE is displayed.
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Before I installed MIUI.us, it said LTE, 4G, and H+. Now, no LTE is displayed.
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Can you tell me what is displayed? Or even better, could you post a screeny when on data? (hold vol down + power to take a screenshot).
And like I mentioned before, it's an image. Nothing else. The only way to know if using a speedtest.
Att markets there HSPA+ as 4G that's why on stock the 4G there speed is slow
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BWolf56 said:
Can you tell me what is displayed? Or even better, could you post a screeny when on data? (hold vol down + power to take a screenshot).
And like I mentioned before, it's an image. Nothing else. The only way to know if using a speedtest.
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It would just be good to know when LTE is being offered.
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It would just be good to know when LTE is being offered.
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Umm that's H+, a bit slower than LTE. Go check in your APNs if you're on the LTE one. Also, make sure your network mode has the 3 options (2G, 3G, 4G).
Yes, all that you mentioned checks out. Just never are my LTE symbol after installing both CM10.0 and MIUI.us.
iphonezen said:
Yes, all that you mentioned checks out. Just never are my LTE symbol after installing both CM10.0 and MIUI.us.
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Maybe try a different modem. I'm not sure why it would keep you from using LTE if your APN and network mode are correct.
How do I try a different modem?
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How do I try a different modem?
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Flash it
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I was wondering if the H+ symbol I get for the Omega rom means it is LTE? There are times when it says E, 3G and 4G as well. I'm assuming the H+ is when it is on LTE here in Chicago.
rbtady said:
I was wondering if the H+ symbol I get for the Omega rom means it is LTE? There are times when it says E, 3G and 4G as well. I'm assuming the H+ is when it is on LTE here in Chicago.
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4g is lte h+ is hspa
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4g is lte h+ is hspa
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Thanks for clearing that up
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I Would like to add, on TMO rom it seemed to me like they are marking H+ as 4G as well, which on normal roms (i9505) they are not.
i had 2 Galaxy S4 in my hand, one with TMO rom and one with i9505 rom. (With TMO sim in both)
the TMO showed up 4G and the i9505 showed H+
but when looking inside the debug menu, they both were in H+ channel,
speedtest showed the same speed as well.
so what i think is that TMO is "Cheating" by stating "i'm on 4G network" which should be only LTE,
but you are on 3.5G network (H+)
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4g is lte h+ is hspa
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So why does it go between 4g and 4gLTE?
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you could also correct that by just changing the build.prop lines to the tmobile values and you get your normal icons back for 4G and 4GLTE. I did this since I am running Omega as well.
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you could also correct that by just changing the build.prop lines to the tmobile values and you get your normal icons back for 4G and 4GLTE. I did this since I am running Omega as well.
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Would this work on an AOSP rom as well ? If so, can please you post the build.prop lines that need changing? (including what to change them to)
Thanks in advance
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Would this work on an AOSP rom as well ? If so, can please you post the build.prop lines that need changing? (including what to change them to)
Thanks in advance
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I honestly do not know that this will work on an AOSP rom. My bet is that they probably wouldn't- and if you're running an AOSP rom built for the M919 you'd already have the correct build.prop values:
ro.product.model= SGH-M919
ro.product.name=jfltetmo
ro.product.device=jfltetmo
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I honestly do not know that this will work on an AOSP rom. My bet is that they probably wouldn't- and if you're running an AOSP rom built for the M919 you'd already have the correct build.prop values:
ro.product.model= SGH-M919
ro.product.name=jfltetmo
ro.product.device=jfltetmo
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I see. Those are the current values for those lines. Thanks anyway
Why don't you just do a speed test?
dominante58 said:
you could also correct that by just changing the build.prop lines to the tmobile values and you get your normal icons back for 4G and 4GLTE. I did this since I am running Omega as well.
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How do you change the build prop? Also, will this effect the changes I made with 3 minit settings?
I'm on omega. Change your build prop to get T-Mobile icons. You could also go in settings/status and check if your in hspa or LTE. I have LTE now in Cleveland and see 4g LTE for my data icons
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Here's T-Mobile build prop. There are only 3 things you have to change. Device,model and name
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How do you change the build prop? Also, will this effect the changes I made with 3 minit settings?
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A simple text editor works, it's located at /build.prop
Otherwise there are several options on Play, just search for build prop.
Thanks i changed the name, model, and device in build prop, but it still uses 3g and 4g.
Nevermind it now. Shows lte for lte and 4g for hspa after the edit of the build prop
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I Would like to add, on TMO rom it seemed to me like they are marking H+ as 4G as well, which on normal roms (i9505) they are not.
i had 2 Galaxy S4 in my hand, one with TMO rom and one with i9505 rom. (With TMO sim in both)
the TMO showed up 4G and the i9505 showed H+
but when looking inside the debug menu, they both were in H+ channel,
speedtest showed the same speed as well.
so what i think is that TMO is "Cheating" by stating "i'm on 4G network" which should be only LTE,
but you are on 3.5G network (H+)
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Tmobile's 4g has always been hspa+ They are just starting to roll out LTE. AT&T did this also. They billed hspa+ as 4g, and then rolled out LTE later, which they currently market to compete with verizons 4g lte. Gsm carriers were able to debut hspa+ faster then verizon was able to debut LTE for the first time, giving them a leg up on the fastest network for a short time.
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is anyone getting lte instead of 4g on this phone? or it runs on lte even if 4g is showing? on att.
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is anyone getting lte instead of 4g on this phone? or it runs on lte even if 4g is showing? on att.
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I'm just getting 4G only in areas where I'd usually see LTE icon on my previous devices. It's def. Kicking LTE speeds though!
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is anyone getting lte instead of 4g on this phone? or it runs on lte even if 4g is showing? on att.
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4g only
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all european model phones usually say 4G...don't know why...it should say LTE...but if anyone is worried, LTE is working as I got 25mb download speedtest in an area that I usually get that range of speeds...so LTE is working but it just won't say so on the phone.
Yes,
4G = LTE
H+ = HSPA+
H
3G
2G
Loving this phone!
gparmar76 said:
all european model phones usually say 4G...don't know why...it should say LTE...but if anyone is worried, LTE is working as I got 25mb download speedtest in an area that I usually get that range of speeds...so LTE is working but it just won't say so on the phone.
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Idk why but some reason only USA if I remember right they have it showing up as LTE while rest of world uses 4G instead of LTE status so yeah.
tseyksuli said:
Idk why but some reason only USA if I remember right they have it showing up as LTE while rest of world uses 4G instead of LTE status so yeah.
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Actually, AOSP phones like Nexus say LTE...manufacturers who customize their phones change it.
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Actually, AOSP phones like Nexus say LTE...manufacturers who customize their phones change it.
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thats because AOSP is american default version before google changes LTE into 4G and so on unless like you said it's carriers around world changing it.
I have the z5 premium dual and it says LTE. I'm on tmobile here in the US.
Z5 Premium Dual - India - reads LTE
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Belgium Proximus LTE
I am in the US on T-Mobile . It shows 4G buts its LTE. See screen shot below.