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So, does HSPA+ show up as a separate indicator?

The way you can distinguish between EDGE and HSPA. Is it it's own individual thing or does it just show up as fast HSPA? Basically, how do I know if I'm connected?
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aad4321 said:
...."Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk" Oh im sorry, I see you are using a Nexus S, you will not be able to use HSPA + LOLOL ROFL COPTER FAILBLOG
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I actually ordered a G2 today. That's why I'm asking on the G2 board, asshole.
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It depends on which ROM you're using.
On the stock G2 ROM, T-Mobile programmed it so you only either see E for EDGE or H for anything from UMTS to HSDPA to HSPA+.
If you install a Sense ROM, you'll see the correct indicator. I.e. an E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS/HSDPA, and an H for HSPA+.
I have no idea what Cyanogen will show you, as I haven't used CM on my G2, but I would imagine it'd be the same as the Sense ROMs.
Basically, T-Mobile wants you to believe you're *always* on HSPA+, but the non-carrier-backed ROMs tell the truth.

the orange bandit said:
If you install a Sense ROM, you'll see the correct indicator. I.e. an E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS/HSDPA, and an H for HSPA+.
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The Sense ROMs show 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+.

Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.

TheBiles said:
Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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Correct. You *can* switch to EDGE-only if you wish (I do this at work cause I have WiFi and my cubicle is a black hole) but you don't need to do anything special to 'activate' HSPA+

HSPA+ is really just a faster HSDPA revision. Nothing special.
You should get the same H logo from as low as 1.2 Mbps HSDPA to at least 21 Mbps HSPA+ and probably more.
Also, technically, I think that 14.4 Mbps is still part of the HSDPA 3GPP release 5 revision. 21 Mbps is the newer release 7 HSPA+. So even if there were a "H+" sign, the Desire Z/G2 should never use it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA

TheBiles said:
Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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CM does show 3g and H.
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heybobitsme said:
CM does show 3g and H.
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So this convention: 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+?

TheBiles said:
So this convention: 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+?
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I'm assuming. I've seen it change, but haven't looked at the wireless status to confirm.
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My phone is still on stock rom. I get.....
E
G
H
H+
I guess my phone has an update or something.
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Bdix said:
My phone is still on stock rom. I get.....
E
G
H
H+
I guess my phone has an update or something.
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This is what I was hoping for. Maybe there's a theme for CM.
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I can 100% say that CM shows G for GSM, or whatever the exact term is. E for edge, 3G for when you are in 3G and H for HSPA+. I've flashed several diffeernt roms and everyone I have flashed(other than stock) show the true data.
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PatrickHuey said:
I can 100% say that CM shows G for GSM, or whatever the exact term is. E for edge, 3G for when you are in 3G and H for HSPA+.
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Sorry if this seems pedantic, but doesn't it show "H" for HSPA or HSPA+ ? Not just for HSPA+ ?

On my unlocked tmobile comet (Ideos) , when I insert my HSPA+ Sim in, it shows HSPA in the "about phone" info options in settings as network type, but only bars with no 3G/4G icon. (possibly because I am not connecting completely)
Looks like I need to have my provider update my device so it works, but in theory it should.

There's a H+ icon?
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brewser123 said:
On my unlocked tmobile comet (Ideos) , when I insert my HSPA+ Sim in, it shows HSPA in the "about phone" info options in settings as network type, but only bars with no 3G/4G icon. (possibly because I am not connecting completely)
Looks like I need to have my provider update my device so it works, but in theory it should.
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Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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dontbes said:
There's a H+ icon?
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In some custom ROMs, yes. Not in the stock ROMs.

Alex530 said:
Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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No, in CM the 3G icon is UMTS, and the H icon is HSPA/HSPA+.

Alex530 said:
Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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Double facepalm youself LMAO!! UMTS is 3G (7.2), HSPA is 4G (14.4), and HSPA+ is 4G (21.1) also. You are right though, wtf is an hspa+ sim? The sim I've had since the days of my RAZR works just fine.
In CM ROMs (and most others):
G = GSM/GPRS
E = EDGE
3G = 3G aka UMTS
H = HSPA/HSPA+ aka 4G

What will happen if I use a Non-AT&T ONE-X on AT&T?

I am interested in the ONE-X, but only i fI have the one with the Tegra 3 processors. I'd like that because they are the same as my Asus TF201. My question is can I get a GSM ONE-X to work with AT&T's network? I know it won't be LTE, but would it at least work on the H+ network? I have the Inspire 4G now and I believe h+ will be good enough if i can get it.
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jmikeb92 said:
I am interested in the ONE-X, but only i fI have the one with the Tegra 3 processors. I'd like that because they are the same as my Asus TF201. My question is can I get a GSM ONE-X to work with AT&T's network? I know it won't be LTE, but would it at least work on the H+ network? I have the Inspire 4G now and I believe h+ will be good enough if i can get it.
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Yes I'm doing it know. I just popped in my sim card and it worked.

jmikeb92 said:
I am interested in the ONE-X, but only i fI have the one with the Tegra 3 processors. I'd like that because they are the same as my Asus TF201. My question is can I get a GSM ONE-X to work with AT&T's network? I know it won't be LTE, but would it at least work on the H+ network? I have the Inspire 4G now and I believe h+ will be good enough if i can get it.
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It will work fine. It gets the same bands. Just put your Sim card in the one x
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Um...absolutely nothing
No att thugs are gonna tie you up and hold you for ransom

Funk2641 said:
Um...absolutely nothing
No att thugs are gonna tie you up and hold you for ransom
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LOL I wasn't worried about that, I just wanted to make sure I would still have the 4G, or rather 3.5G, data capabilities.
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jmikeb92 said:
LOL I wasn't worried about that, I just wanted to make sure I would still have the 4G, or rather 3.5G, data capabilities.
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Yeah you will as long as your in a good ATT coverage area.
I am in NY and am getting about 6-10mbps download speeds.

spridell said:
Yeah you will as long as your in a good ATT coverage area.
I am in NY and am getting about 6-10mbps download speeds.
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So just to clarify, are you getting 3g, 3.5g, or 4g? (and arent 4g/lte the same thing for that matter?)

toastyy said:
So just to clarify, are you getting 3g, 3.5g, or 4g? (and arent 4g/lte the same thing for that matter?)
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No I dont think 4g and LTE are the same.
I am getting HSPA+ speeds using ATT. ATT considers HSPA+ to be 4G.
LTE i believe is completely different than 4g.

What AT&T and T-Mobile (and Verizon for that matter) refer to as 4G isn't technically 4G. Legally by ITU definitions only LTE, WiMax2, etc. are truly "4G" technologies.
That said, the Intl 1X supports all the frequencies necessary to operate on AT&T other than LTE (for that you need the neutered dual core US version). All I did last night was create a new APN in Network Settings for broadband speeds (I know it has an AT&T APN in there by default but I wanted to ensure the settings were correct).
I followed this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69lHUIkEOIE

No LTE for t-mobile gs3

I read that even when t-mobile jumps on the lte band wagon in 2013, that our gs3 phones will not be able to take advantage of the new speeds (what a drag). I'm not sure if this is really the case, but I posted the link to the article below.
http://www.galaxys3newsblog.com/t-mobiles-samsung-galaxy-s3-to-miss-lte-yet-another-dissappointment/

One thing you have to remember you always want to buy a phone that works right now for you not a phone that would work better in the future, I'm happy with hspa+ and by the time I get lte from tmobile I might have another phone anyways so I think I'm cool with that, it bee discuss in another topic too
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This is true. I just thought that I would post this for those who didn't have the benefit of reading the other post. For those that don't change their phones often and intend on keeping the gs3 for some time, I thought that this was good information to help them make a well informed purchase. I hope this helped anyone that didn't know and wants to buy a gs3.

My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.

jgalan14 said:
One thing you have to remember you always want to buy a phone that works right now for you not a phone that would work better in the future, I'm happy with hspa+ and by the time I get lte from tmobile I might have another phone anyways so I think I'm cool with that, it bee discuss in another topic too
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+1, I owned my T-989 for less then a year before buying my T-999. At this rate I'll buy a T-1000 when it comes out in 6-8 months from now.
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sean48238 said:
My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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Same here in San Diego. Verizon was fast out of the gate but they heavily over-subscribed their network and now they are lame. AT&T is the crazy fast at the moment but I expect them to be in the same boat as Verizon this time next year.

sean48238 said:
My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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How the heck do people get such fast download speeds? i downloaded the speedtest app and I'm only pulling about 3-4 thousand kbps with 3 bars of 4G.

m4r10 said:
How the heck do people get such fast download speeds? i downloaded the speedtest app and I'm only pulling about 3-4 thousand kbps with 3 bars of 4G.
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Is disguise you might be only on 3g or hspa not hspa+(what tmobile calls 4g)
This is at my house hspa+
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jgalan14 said:
Is disguise you might be only on 3g or hspa not hspa+(what tmobile calls 4g)
This is at my house hspa+
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My S3 is lying to me???

sean48238 said:
My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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Why is the wifi simple active?
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m4r10 said:
My S3 is lying to me???
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Practicly yes on stock 4g shows when you connected to umts(3g), hspa and hspa+(t mobile calls this 4g cause it could go up to 42mbps) but if you changed yours to stock look ( aosp) you will see your phone going at all of them and won't stay connected to one at all times, you might no notice because their 3g is not crazy slow where you live, I have good coverage specially where I live and work so I don't mind it
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hpric said:
Why is the wifi simple active?
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If you see to the left it shows a town meaning is from a tower no wifi, wifi will shows different
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tooxcha continuing
Honestly I dont know which one to believe. Ive read the frequency issue and one that said the T-mobile version got the 8290 chip that doesnt support LTE. I guess we will have to see when they actually launch it.

Projectsk26 said:
Honestly I dont know which one to believe. Ive read the frequency issue and one that said the T-mobile version got the 8290 chip that doesnt support LTE. I guess we will have to see when they actually launch it.
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It does have LTE, just like the T-989 did, its just disabled by default. You can access this setting by opening the dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#*, and selecting radio type.

I need to get a new phone every year it just gets boring ... as soon as a good quad core comes out I'm outta here.
Can't stop consuming need moar
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jgalan14 said:
Practicly yes on stock 4g shows when you connected to umts(3g), hspa and hspa+(t mobile calls this 4g cause it could go up to 42mbps) but if you changed yours to stock look ( aosp) you will see your phone going at all of them and won't stay connected to one at all times, you might no notice because their 3g is not crazy slow where you live, I have good coverage specially where I live and work so I don't mind it
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Ive rooted and mine shows H+ but the most i get is 5500kbps download and I live in the Los Angeles area, no idea how you guys are getting those insane speeds

Zephyron said:
Ive rooted and mine shows H+ but the most i get is 5500kbps download and I live in the Los Angeles area, no idea how you guys are getting those insane speeds
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It just depends on where you are and how many people are connected to the netowk like LA is too pack, too many people lives there my speeds are slower there too
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How long does S3 last with LTE on?

Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G

Wuschelbeutel said:
Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G
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Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?

ReapersDeath said:
Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?
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Huh? Sprint has towers up in places. And LTE IS 4G.
EDIT: To OP, I couldn't tell you, don't have LTE in my area just yet.

ReapersDeath said:
Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?
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What?
I'm curious as well op
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gpgorbosjr said:
Huh? Sprint has towers up in places. And LTE IS 4G.
EDIT: To OP, I couldn't tell you, don't have LTE in my area just yet.
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LTE is NOT 4G. They all call it that, but it's more like 3.9G. LTE-Advanced will be 4G when it is finalized and deployed on carrier networks next year.
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Wuschelbeutel said:
Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G
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I personally don't notice much difference by leaving LTE on versus turning it off. I usually get 2 days of use on a full charge. My results may be skewed a bit cause the lte signal is weak in my area, so my phone automatically switched over to 3G.

Mutiny32 said:
LTE is NOT 4G. They all call it that, but it's more like 3.9G. LTE-Advanced will be 4G when it is finalized and deployed on carrier networks next year.
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Give me a break man. I know what 4G is constituted by but with the carriers pushing out their crap (HSPA+ as 4G) calling LTE 4G is a happy medium.
And I was just trying to figure what the hell that guy was talking about when he said 4G. LTE, WiMax, Real 4G, dumb AT&T/T-Mo 4G?

If I understand correctly. The s4 processor has the lte integrated in such a way that is a bit more battery efficient than a snapdragon s3 device with lte.

This might be better in the Verizon form as they have LTE (we do too but in 5cities).
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You might get better answers in the LTE sticky thread in General. Most there have LTE.
FNM

I have yet to see a significant drop in battery life but connection isn't sustained very long anywhere I have been.
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With 4g on and active I was at 12 hours with 38% remaining. 2Hours and 30 minutes screen time.
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[Q] LTE coverage on MIUI??

I have the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 android version 4.1.2 on MIUI.us 3.1.11. Everything is working fine, but I have noticed slightly slower speeds and I no longer see my LTE signal icon in the status bar? How can I tell if I still have LTE coverage? Is it still there, but just not being displayed anymore? Please advise.

iphonezen said:
I have the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 android version 4.1.2 on MIUI.us 3.1.11. Everything is working fine, but I have noticed slightly slower speeds and I no longer see my LTE signal icon in the status bar? How can I tell if I still have LTE coverage? Is it still there, but just not being displayed anymore? Please advise.
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An image doesn't change much, I could swap it to change 2G (E) and it would still give me the same speed.. You can use speedtest app to see if you still get the same speed.

So I shouldn't be to concerned if the LTE icon is no longer being displayed? It was very helpful to have it, let's you know where the best coverage for LTE is at! Wonder why it's not being displayed anymore after rooting??

iphonezen said:
So I shouldn't be to concerned if the LTE icon is no longer being displayed? It was very helpful to have it, let's you know where the best coverage for LTE is at! Wonder why it's not being displayed anymore after rooting??
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what icon is it showing? 3G, H, H+, 4G?

BWolf56 said:
what icon is it showing? 3G, H, H+, 4G?
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Its showing 4G and H+

If it shows 4G that means LTE and H+ means regular "4G" at least in my experience
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If it shows 4G that means LTE and H+ means regular "4G" at least in my experience
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Almost. LTE is 4G but H+ is 3.5G.

Before I installed MIUI.us, it said LTE, 4G, and H+. Now, no LTE is displayed.

iphonezen said:
Before I installed MIUI.us, it said LTE, 4G, and H+. Now, no LTE is displayed.
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Can you tell me what is displayed? Or even better, could you post a screeny when on data? (hold vol down + power to take a screenshot).
And like I mentioned before, it's an image. Nothing else. The only way to know if using a speedtest.

Att markets there HSPA+ as 4G that's why on stock the 4G there speed is slow
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BWolf56 said:
Can you tell me what is displayed? Or even better, could you post a screeny when on data? (hold vol down + power to take a screenshot).
And like I mentioned before, it's an image. Nothing else. The only way to know if using a speedtest.
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It would just be good to know when LTE is being offered.

iphonezen said:
It would just be good to know when LTE is being offered.
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Umm that's H+, a bit slower than LTE. Go check in your APNs if you're on the LTE one. Also, make sure your network mode has the 3 options (2G, 3G, 4G).

Yes, all that you mentioned checks out. Just never are my LTE symbol after installing both CM10.0 and MIUI.us.

iphonezen said:
Yes, all that you mentioned checks out. Just never are my LTE symbol after installing both CM10.0 and MIUI.us.
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Maybe try a different modem. I'm not sure why it would keep you from using LTE if your APN and network mode are correct.

How do I try a different modem?

iphonezen said:
How do I try a different modem?
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Flash it
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