Motorola Defy Wiki page - Defy General

Hello *,
I just added a wiki page to the XDA Dev wiki together with some links from the development forum.
Please feel free to edit the page and add the information you deem important.
Cheers,
CS

Nice work!
I've stickied this thread in the General forum for everyone to see.
P.S. I fixed the Android logo and added a redirect on the main index photo

the_scotsman said:
Nice work!
I've stickied this thread in the General forum for everyone to see.
P.S. I fixed the Android logo and added a redirect on the main index photo
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Why don't you sticky Sorensiims "How I mod my defy" topic?

Thank you!
Would you mind making it also sticky in the dev sub-forum? As most of the links point to dev-resources and since many questions arise concerning these topics it might help people to get started.

Looks great! Nice to have all the information gathered in one place.. will be helpful when I finally dive into the world of rooting/flashing after my exams

added new section: Recover Nearly Bricked Phone (hopefully)
if anyone wants to contribute, feel free.
will take some time until i posted everything i know
(quite busy right now...)
thanks guys!

This along with other guides saved my ass so thank you for this majorily appreciated
= ]
-Jabar

very nice

There should be a directory for all of these wiki pages. With all this info in one place, more unregistered users will end up registering just to be able to access this stuff.

clutch.exe said:
There should be a directory for all of these wiki pages. With all this info in one place, more unregistered users will end up registering just to be able to access this stuff.
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would agree
but i really don't like the idea of registering to contributing ... but it's necessary due to the times of bots and other ^^stuff

Great Work,
perhaps add the Sense Rom? It works fantastic!!!...

wiki
Jojo1992 said:
Great Work,
perhaps add the Sense Rom? It works fantastic!!!...
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it's a wiki, give it 5 minutes, have a look, and contribute on your own
would be great thanks!

T-Mobile 3.4.2
The "Android 2.2 (Froyo) Stock ROMs" section on the Wiki needs to be updated to reflect the 3.4.2 T-Mobile ROM

IP67 it fake in Thailand don't work.
can't proof water (Some Device)
can't Proof dust (some device)
Can't Proof scratch on Screen Gorrila Glass. cause Key Scratch in my pocket.

Just updated the custom ROMs section.

Add cm7 Tom too
Sent from my MB525 cm7quarx

Dumb question: Asking here since the development forum isnt open to me yet.
I have CM7 beta5.1 but there's been alot of force close of android.media process. I want to reflash 5.1 but the custom recovery does not recognize the SD card. Is there a suggestion on that account which may be of use?
Else it may be included

Maybe an update for the Nordic ROM 2.2.2 as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13008282&postcount=1

Great. Thx very much!...i searched a lot for Eclair but now it`s so easy

It's very good!Thank you!

Related

Help wanted: the FAQ system

The wiki ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com ) contains a tiny start of what could become a very nice FAQ. I do not have time over the next weeks to expand what's there, and appeal to any and all with some time on their hands to please see if they can add structure, or just questions and their answers. Feel free to change it until it's good, that's what wikis are for.
Nice post peter
Question for you
How would you feel if you had spent over 2 months building a wiki for the blueangel, posting the files to the ftp site, to find that they got deleted on the 16 .
Pm 2 admins, one picking up the pm but not repliying, the orher not picking up the pm.
Rebuilding the trashed ftp site, re linking the wiki links, Posting to the ftp non public thread, reading that it will happen soon, watching the ftp site getting trashed again (today) and then reading your reqest?
Ps you have a pm from me datedted 16 march, feel like picking it up?
Why this beautifull FAQ (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel) is not visible for ordinary people? I found it by accident.
But it is!
Top of screen to the right is the link wiki.xda-developers.com
On that page under HTC Device you will find Blueangel
The Blueangel Link gets you to that page
Never thought that behind these WiKi activities this FAQ is hidden - put another link under this WiKi.XDA-devloppers.com link with something like "How Blue Angel works" or "Blue Angel FAQ" or "Knowledgebase". So a person who visits for the first time immediatly sees this fine product of hard labor.
What happen to the Magician section ? Are we being ignore ???
Well, I really love your job, however, my device is being left out !!
Wiki like the forum is user driven. In short if no user feels the need or want to update wiki then it just does not happen.
You dont need to be a moderator to add pages in wiki, you dont even need to be good in english for somebody down the line will add or correct your page.
I have to say - that's a real shame.
There's a lot of information requested on these forums that has been requested before - but often it's buried deep in a confusing thread (most recently the splash image tweaks for the HTC Wizard - I have no idea what util tweaks what splash).
I just created a Wiki page (search for my username, I guess - it's not really linked from anything much yet), and I plan to create more related to the Wizard as time becomes available.
Wikis are inherently much better at giving concise information than an open-discussion forum... wish people would use it.
Help with the SiteManagement Project
Please see the following forum topic to see how you can further help with the FAQ Wiki Project:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=226744#226744
We need as much help as possible to create a sustainable platform in order to further create a workable and informative website, so please check out this topic and see what you can do to help!
Hi guys, is it possible to have access to google-analytics results? Since we need to know for what the users are looking for - the most common search, how they act in site (in wiki! and so on)
Then we can make THE wiki.
Posting to the ftp non public thread, reading that it will happen soon
how change the nick?
numaverick said:
how change the nick?
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Ask a Mod or Admin, only they can make that.
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Ask a Mod or Admin, only they can make that.
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Only the admin (Flar) can change them.
Please send a PM request it.
Ta
Dave

Why not separate forum for each ROM

Hi all!
I have a suggestion to make to the administrators of this portal.
I believe that each ROM should have it's own forum and not just a single thread. Each ROM is a really big deal. It is a piece of software that requires support, and using just one thread - the one that the creator of the ROM started to show off his work - is not enough. There should be one forum for each ROM, with locked threads on top showing latest releases, patches and known issues etc. Just like a real software product. Currently is it not easy at all for the visitor to find an answer for something already been answered before. Search inside a thread is helpful but not enough. Also, I suppose that it's not easy for the creator of ROM to keep up and know what was answered and what was not.
This forum should be administered by the ROM creator or any other friend that he/she could choose to help him out in this difficult task.
papadi said:
Hi all!
I have a suggestion to make to the administrators of this portal.
I believe that each ROM should have it's own forum and not just a single thread. Each ROM is a really big deal. It is a piece of software that requires support, and using just one thread - the one that the creator of the ROM started to show off his work - is not enough. There should be one forum for each ROM, with locked threads on top showing latest releases, patches and known issues etc. Just like a real software product. Currently is it not easy at all for the visitor to find an answer for something already been answered before. Search inside a thread is helpful but not enough. Also, I suppose that it's not easy for the creator of ROM to keep up and know what was answered and what was not.
This forum should be administered by the ROM creator or any other friend that he/she could choose to help him out in this difficult task.
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Mate... i think that cant be applied because there may be 10's of roms then we will need 10's of forums. Its ok with topics i think... they just need good cleaning from useless posts.
And what is the problem with having 10s of forums? If the forum framework is flexible this shouldn't be much burden for the administrators.
yup, i am agree with you papaidi, but, we dont have to make a new separated forum, for a new rom, i think we just need a separated forum for the newest rom, then for the rom before, we need to move it to "upgrading" forum,. ;p
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yup, i am agree with you papaidi, but, we dont have to make a new separated forum, for a new rom, i think we just need a separated forum for the newest rom, then for the rom before, we need to move it to "upgrading" forum,. ;p
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I would also recommend Tags. Aren't they supported?
Take this thread for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751
How can somebody find in it if there is the answer that he is looking form. This thread has more than 2500 replies! This is not a thread! It's a history book.
i hear what you're sayin but...
that's not even a ROM thread! And he (Ikarus) has taken the trouble to write up FAQs, manuals, etc, so except for troubleshooting IMO you hardly need to look through the whole thread,
This is not a thread! It's a history book.
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but that's a nice line...made me smile at least...
regarding a forum for each ROM, it would be a nice idea, but is there really space, or a real need for this? I mean, I hate looking back at a latest ROM thread and seeing 20 pages to trawl through, but what can you do... I guess I agree with WizeMan. If there is anything that can be done, perhaps harsher moderation (e.g. of newbie's questions) in the ROM threads would help.
...or...if people really did want new forums for ROMs, one for each major cooker? rather than each individual ROM...still don't think that it's worth it/do-able though
I believe seperating ROMS and forum will add more chaos. For example, there is like 100's of ROMS released for each device like hermes, wizard etc. Some of the ROM released might not be good, and hence it might be discontinued. Also with the way people are porting ROM a new OS version is released almost daily, and the chefs, start their job again with the new OS version....so having to seperate ROM forum will add more confusion...(this is my opinion)
Also, use google to search for what you need, I agree you cannot go through the 2500 replies, but some of them do have valuable information.
That's a good idea...
Sorry, but that is probably the craziest thing I have heard. Do you even know how many ROMS are out there? This forum is huge as it is. If they started making new forums for every ROM, then you would have nothing less than 200 forums minimum.
The key is to include a "Thank You" feature for every thread. The biggest problem we have here is noobs and even a lot os senior members posting THANK YOU and I'LL TEST IT OUT messages in the threads. If you actually look at the amount of useful messages in the threads, they are quite minimal as opposed to all this unnecessary chatter.
There are a lot of forums that include this "THANK YOU" feature that I mentioned. If you want to thank the author of the thread, all you do is click on a THANK YOU button and your name gets added to a THANK YOU section in the same thread. That way everything is kept clean and messages are posted only when you have something to contribute, discuss or have a problem.
Check out the thread below... you'll have a much better idea of what i'm talking about. Also, maybe we should make this more visible. If all of us start putting this in our Signatures, then members will take notice and if there is enough of noise, then the admins will take notice and we can move towards a cleaner and more functional XDA-dev.
Thank You Threads
In my oppinion this is a difficult idea to be applied. The most simple way we can wish the moderator give a list of rom and then stick them, so anybody know where is the newer rom, stable rom, or in progress. But actually there is a rule from the rom maker, they use some order of versions which they build, so anybody know when the rom is composed Thank them for the great works.

Who to ask about closed thread?

Hi everybody,
I wonder why a thread of mine was closed in one of the forums and I really have no idea what I did wrong and even who to ask what and why? (The thread is in the ROM development section of the Topaz forum, concerning cooked ROMs that support handwriting).
Are there seperate admins for each sub-forum and if yes, how can I find them? Or who else can I ask?
thanks & cheers
tesla33 said:
Hi everybody,
I wonder why a thread of mine was closed in one of the forums and I really have no idea what I did wrong and even who to ask what and why? (The thread is in the ROM development section of the Topaz forum, concerning cooked ROMs that support handwriting).
Are there seperate admins for each sub-forum and if yes, how can I find them? Or who else can I ask?
thanks & cheers
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Any mod will do. You may have either posted warez, links to it/them, instructions on how to get them. Or simply posted in the wrong section altogether.
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Any mod will do. You may have either posted warez, links to it/them, instructions on how to get them. Or simply posted in the wrong section altogether.
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Thank you for the quick reply. I understand the warez rules and all. But this question... in the ROM development section:
Is there any decent cooked ROM that either supports the official HTC handwriting update for the Topaz or even has it already integrated?
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I just dont get it
Again, thanks for the reply
tesla33 said:
Thank you for the quick reply. I understand the warez rules and all. But this question... in the ROM development section:
I just dont get it
Again, thanks for the reply
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Maybe someone else asked something similar and you are getting penalized for not searching before posting. That is the only other thing that I can think of.
oh dear, if thats the reason, I'm simply to stupid for this forum I searched and poured more than 8 hours yesterday over posts, especially the ROM post, which all have well over 2000 replies. So I know that people are asking about handwriting but the question usually just goes under in the ROM threads....
Nevermind, will post it in the admin question thread where it probably belongs. Owe you a coffee though, let me fix my paypal issues first
Hi tesla33,
Which thread? I'll have a look to see if there was a "closure" reason added. It's possible it may have inadvertently been closed during Spam cleanup by a mod that had multiple browser session/tabs open.
Cheers,
Hi hilaireg,
thank you so much for looking into this. I'm feeling almost embarassed now for all the trouble but I was kinda intimidated:
The thread is:
thread
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Hi hilaireg,
thank you so much for looking into this. I'm feeling almost embarassed now for all the trouble but I was kinda intimidated:
The thread is:
thread
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More than likely it was closed because it has nothing to do with rom development. The rom development forum is not the place to ask for specific roms or features. It should have been asked in the general forum.
The Mod should have given you the courtesy of moving it for you or at the very least a short explanation. I have from day one, had a problem with the quick unexplained trigger finger of many mods on this forum. A little common courtesy would be nice.
@denco7:
Agreed. Going to "chalk" it up to an honest mistake made by the moderator who closed it (not me).
@tesla33:
I've re-opened the thread and moved it to the General section. I see no reason why the question can't be asked . The Admins are working on the Search function of late to see about improving it ... cause at the moment, I've found needles in haystacks far sooner than answers.
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oh dear, if thats the reason, I'm simply to stupid for this forum I searched and poured more than 8 hours yesterday over posts, especially the ROM post, which all have well over 2000 replies. So I know that people are asking about handwriting but the question usually just goes under in the ROM threads....
Nevermind, will post it in the admin question thread where it probably belongs. Owe you a coffee though, let me fix my paypal issues first
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Looking forward to the coffee
As far as the searching, once you are in a thread that you think may have some relevant information for you, you will see a button that reads "Search This Thread". Simply put in your search parameters and choose to get "posts" for results. This will make it a lot simpler than going through 2000+ posts.
As far as the transcriber, there are cabs out there since lots of Chefs actually leave this option out due to lack of space in the rom. Let me know if you need help finding the cab.
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@denco7:
Agreed. Going to "chalk" it up to an honest mistake made by the moderator who closed it (not me).
@tesla33:
I've re-opened the thread and moved it to the General section. I see no reason why the question can't be asked . The Admins are working on the Search function of late to see about improving it ... cause at the moment, I've found needles in haystacks far sooner than answers.
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FYI, one of the more reasonable and nicer Mods around here.
Thank you, thank you and thank you
Again, I'm not complaining. I was actually considering where to put it and thought "hhmm, I'm asking about custom ROMs wit a certain capability, so better put it in the ROMs sections"
I understand how incredibly difficult it is to maintain a forum of this size and activity (I was once a Diablo2 Battlenet Mod ) and I appreciate the work you all put in there. I probably wouldnt have made this thread if it was my 400th post... after a while you get a feeling for where what goes and also for the search cloud and how to find stuff. But imagine if a newbie comes in here and wants to find out if his new Topaz is an ARM or a SH3 because he/she wants to download the Total Commander Beta... (ok, well maybe this is not the forum for people who dont know what hardware they are using)
I promise I'll behave in the future
Thank you again for sorting this out for me, very much appreciated
P.S.
egzthunder1 said:
Looking forward to the coffee
As far as the searching, once you are in a thread that you think may have some relevant information for you, you will see a button that reads "Search This Thread". Simply put in your search parameters and choose to get "posts" for results. This will make it a lot simpler than going through 2000+ posts.
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Understood. But with threads this big, lets assume that somebody asks in Dutty's ROM thread if it supports handwriting on page 100 something. You cant be 100% sure that if the question was answered it contains the word "handwriting" again. So you do have to read to the nect 150 pages to see if somebody actually answered the question (Nobody did, I should know)
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As far as the transcriber, there are cabs out there since lots of Chefs actually leave this option out due to lack of space in the rom. Let me know if you need help finding the cab.
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The transcriber apps never seem to work as well as HTC own software. I did try some (calligrapher etc) but the results are less than I expected
Ok, I really shut up now
tesla33 said:
Thank you, thank you and thank you
Again, I'm not complaining. I was actually considering where to put it and thought "hhmm, I'm asking about custom ROMs wit a certain capability, so better put it in the ROMs sections"
I understand how incredibly difficult it is to maintain a forum of this size and activity (I was once a Diablo2 Battlenet Mod ) and I appreciate the work you all put in there. I probably wouldnt have made this thread if it was my 400th post... after a while you get a feeling for where what goes and also for the search cloud and how to find stuff. But imagine if a newbie comes in here and wants to find out if his new Topaz is an ARM or a SH3 because he/she wants to download the Total Commander Beta... (ok, well maybe this is not the forum for people who dont know what hardware they are using)
I promise I'll behave in the future
Thank you again for sorting this out for me, very much appreciated
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Understood. But with threads this big, lets assume that somebody asks in Dutty's ROM thread if it supports handwriting on page 100 something. You cant be 100% sure that if the question was answered it contains the word "handwriting" again. So you do have to read to the nect 150 pages to see if somebody actually answered the question (Nobody did, I should know)
The transcriber apps never seem to work as well as HTC own software. I did try some (calligrapher etc) but the results are less than I expected
Ok, I really shut up now
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I am actually talking about the transcriber itself, not calligrapher or anything else.
Good morning,
slight misunderstanding here because: dont ask me why but HTC did not include a transcriber in the Topaz ROMs
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FYI, one of the more reasonable and nicer Mods around here.
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I hope I also fall into that category

[TEMP STICKIE] Let's clean up the dev. section

It seems to be getting a mess in the dev. section lately.
Put your idea on this thread and we'll look into it.
1. create sticky for official (samsung) firmware as easy downloads
2. create sticky for some basic guides
3. create sticky with pointers to roms for the in-house cooks (rotohammer etc.)
this is a start.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
I'd have a set of stickies including:
Flashing Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895827
Unlocking Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843323
Rooting Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859712
A *HUGE OBNOXIOUS BLINKING* Readme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888071
I'm by no means a Dev myself, but I'd love to see y'know... development posts when I lurk here.
Ok, now that i'm un-retired, i'll ask some major cleanup on the dev section.
Starting today/tomorrow between flashing my dev Tab
Several people posted dumped stock firmwares, maybe this should be consolidated into one "Get back to stock" sticky?
T-Mobile stock firmware! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855851
[FIRMWARE] - AT&T stock firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847609
AT&T Production Stock Firmware (I987UCJK1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857608
Also, rotobackup instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850359&highlight=rotobackup
Links to Open Source archives http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844981
Good instructions on building cifs module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9470152&postcount=53
Also can be used to build tun.ko module for VPN.
I would recommend having tags for the different models of tablets. ( [VZW] [TMO] [AT&T] [SPNT] [EURO] etc...)
Just my .02
We really need to have them separated... This is getting bad. Take a vote and and promise everyone would be on board!!
Galaxy Tab Android Development (CDMA)
Galaxy Tab Android Development (GSM)
Galaxy Tab Android Development (...)
Please!!! lol
I agree that the Tab development needs to be split amongst compatibility.
GSM/EUR
CDMA
etc.
That will make the issues with possible flashing mistakes lower and also enable people to find the best build for them.
A third vote for at least something like a top level and sub forums for GSM and CDMA. There might be things that apply to both, but it seems like real development would be at least specific to one or the other, if not down to the carrier level (and I'm not suggesting per carrier forums).
A sticky for my directory(bible). This will be updated frequently. And will be useful for all noobs and pros alike.
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What happened to this idea? The development forum is CRAP. I've spent the last three hours seaching for a stock ROM. Can we please, please get some mod action in here?
Sprint only section please! +100 to the splitting up compatible models.
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Sprint only section please! +100 to the splitting up compatible models.
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+1000000 more for spliting up!
I agree and count my vote, this forum should be easier to find and read the info im searching for it took me days to find a rom and another day to find out how to mod my device using google we should also hav more dev's more porting
wingtytn said:
I agree and count my vote, this forum should be easier to find and read the info im searching for it took me days to find a rom and another day to find out how to mod my device using google we should also hav more dev's more porting
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What we really need is a bigger community. The larger the user base, the larger the dev base. Especially in the states, it seems like no one is developing for our Tabs specifically. And from what I've found, ours are, just like the Galaxy S, different from the international version.
So do we even have a Mod ? Can they do this for us ? Its been like weeks since we asked to split it up.....
+1beeeeeeelion to split and have a CMDA and GSM and Intl section added....and then under those when people list just say [Sprint] or [VZW] in the title of the thread....
aal1 said:
So do we even have a Mod ? Can they do this for us ? Its been like weeks since we asked to split it up.....
+1beeeeeeelion to split and have a CMDA and GSM and Intl section added....and then under those when people list just say [Sprint] or [VZW] in the title of the thread....
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Your official mod is taking a break, just busy with life lately. I'll be taking over until he comes back.
I've forwarded this thread on to the admins, being that after being here for 2 days I can already see how bad it is. Hopefully we can get the sections split up and I can start moving posts around.
Can we please also have teh same tagging as HD2 section has, ie the date at beginning of title..
example...
[19.MAR.2011][ROM] Rom Title Rom Version [KERNEL]
is it possible to get this "stickie" out of the developers section?
it would be more helpfull to get serious content into there. also the actual official thread is sticky and dead.
a sticky should be something important or something must read. this thread is not a "must read"
sorry, constructive critics
I agree we need some reorg. PLEASE look at my sig, and follow the HD2 url,
Seems the HD2 overall section has recently had a makeover. It is much easier to navigate, and the people whe are not devs can op in on the thread.
The devs, on the other hand, have their own section, that requires you be a dev in order to get into it and exchange ideas. This keeps the riff raff from convelouting the threads.
So, can you please look it over. What ever work is needed to be done, I will offer my assistance to reorg the threads and topics.
Thanks
StarLog said:
I agree we need some reorg. PLEASE look at my sig, and follow the HD2 url,
Seems the HD2 overall section has recently had a makeover. It is much easier to navigate, and the people whe are not devs can op in on the thread.
The devs, on the other hand, have their own section, that requires you be a dev in order to get into it and exchange ideas. This keeps the riff raff from convelouting the threads.
So, can you please look it over. What ever work is needed to be done, I will offer my assistance to reorg the threads and topics.
Thanks
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I just looked at HD2 section, and theres nothing new there.
They have a section for NAND dev, and for SD Dev, thats it.
There are some plans in the works for the site in general that may do what you're referring to, but nothing is done yet for any of the fora.
If they give you guys the new sections, It will take me a day or so to move everything around. And I dont know tis section as well as I'd like so it may take a little longer as I'd have to go through every thread, but it would get done.
/IF/ that happens, it should clean up the sections a lot and make it easier to find everything. If not, I'm open to suggestions.

I had a dream someone cleaned up the stickies on this and the android dev forum

Apparently I was wrong.
A+ thread, would read again.
But no seriously, I have a 1200 pixel tall monitor and the android dev forum is half of my screen. It just looks sloppy. Not that it really matters but it just makes it hard to sift through the data. Most other device forums have 1 or 2 stickies. We have 10. 4 of which could be compacted into 1 "read first" post, 3 of them are how to root, and 3 of them are about modems (possibly out of date anyway?).
zaneyard said:
Apparently I was wrong.
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lmao yeah dev pretty loud with duplicate EK02 how to this that , unroot tip 24 etc many threads on same topic which I'm sure gets a little confusing for newbies.
Only things needed in sticky status is sfhub automatic root & Jerdog How to flash tar with odin listing EG30 , EG31 , EK02 tars.
Operation Iron Fist , XDA development rules stay intact of course.
A major + would be a qbking sticky that had all rom reviews in one place.
Its simple stuff not confusing getting the job done.
From there merge 4 of the same topics together leaving kernels and rom threads in tact.
End result is clean organized forum
ok - you're going to complain and clutter the thread - one of you can be part of the solution.
Which of you wants to take a sticky to create:
Current Root Processes
Return to Stock Options
Kernels/Mods/ROMs/Recoveries
The key is you will have to maintain it. But if you can complain and clutter, then I think you're capable of compiling info and updating.
Otherwise......... i think you get the idea.
Thanks for the reply. I'll look at writing a few threads up when I get home from the gym.
Is it preferred that I link back to the original writer for some of these things? Copy pasta seems too much like stealing other peoples work to me.
zaneyard said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll look at writing a few threads up when I get home from the gym.
Is it preferred that I link back to the original writer for some of these things? Copy pasta seems too much like stealing other peoples work to me.
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create a post that has links to the original information - is just an informational sticky - title it so that it's easy to understand - maintain it - etc.
Also someone who wants to keep track of a list of ROMs.... Even one thread that has Kernels/Mods/ROMs/Recoveries all in one
jerdog said:
create a post that has links to the original information - is just an informational sticky - title it so that it's easy to understand - maintain it - etc.
Also someone who wants to keep track of a list of ROMs.... Even one thread that has Kernels/Mods/ROMs/Recoveries all in one
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I agree, I just thought about how if it was copied you would lose all of the old discussion.
I'll lay out a rough organizational later.
excellent idea!
Do you guys think we should have root guides in the dev forum, or the general forum? As of now we have them in both.
If any of you been a while, you might remember the sticky rollup. In that that you have a ton of links to the threads and the single sticky itself is just used for suggestions for other links. Once those links have been added, the posts deleted to clean the thread.
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Do you guys think we should have root guides in the dev forum, or the general forum? As of now we have them in both.
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Depends - if one is a guide but has actual development work in it, then it's dev. But if it's a general guide of how to do it and just links elsewhere it could go either place
Test post for general.
Bandage's new user guide including root guide
QBKing77's root, unroot, cwm, and tips thread (with videos)
Rules
Do not post questions in general
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Other Information
Epic 4G Touch IRC channel
ICS 4.0 Sources
Jerdog's Moderator introduction
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I just included all the stuff that is currently sticked in general. I'll probably add root guides from the dev forum if there are any in there that can be moved.
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Bandage's new user guide including root guide
Do not post questions in general
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
Epic 4G Touch IRC channel
ICS 4.0 Sources
Jerdog's Moderator introduction
I just included all the stuff that is currently sticked in general. I'll probably add root guides from the dev forum if there are any in there that can be moved.
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Thanks for stepping up and walking the walk...
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Test post for dev
RULES AND IMPORTANT INFO
If you did not create it, then it doesn't belong here
OPERATION: Iron Fist
GNU General Public License
No questions here and use the search tool
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
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Guides
QBKing77's root, unroot, cwm, and tips thread (with videos)
Using ODIN to flash your Epic 4G Touch (windows only)
Auto root your existing stock ROM (w/o ODIN/ROM Flash)
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Modem information
[Odin] EL13! EG30, EK02, EG31, EG12
[ODIN][STOCK][TAR] SPH-D710.EG30_CL435734 (EG30 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Factory Restore)
[ODIN][STOCK][TAR] SPH-D710.EG30 ROM/EG31 Modem
Again, I just copied current stickies here. Someone else might be able to better write this one and determine what is current and stuff, as I'm not a dev or have any idea what any of it is but this seems alright.
Any feedback on formatting or where stuff should be would be appreciated. If there's anything really redundant that should be removed from the dev post let me know.
Perhaps move this thread
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
over to the dev forum?
I'm moving it over the dev post, but would it matter if it's linked back to general? I suppose it's pretty easy to move that one thread in the end.
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Any feedback on formatting or where stuff should be would be appreciated. If there's anything really redundant that should be removed from the dev post let me know.
Perhaps move this thread
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
over to the dev forum?
I'm moving it over the dev post, but would it matter if it's linked back to general? I suppose it's pretty easy to move that one thread in the end.
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If any moving needs to happen I will do that.
Also any of the current procedural stickies will need to stay themselves and I will look at maybe trimming them.
Later on tonight I will also look at what you have categorized and offer my opinions.
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Any feedback on formatting or where stuff should be would be appreciated. If there's anything really redundant that should be removed from the dev post let me know.
Perhaps move this thread
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
over to the dev forum?
I'm moving it over the dev post, but would it matter if it's linked back to general? I suppose it's pretty easy to move that one thread in the end.
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Yeah that's the idea of a rollup. One thread to encompass them all. Then you break up the op like you did for grouping like thread links together. Maybe have a section for useful mods. I haven't checked it in a few months, but if you look at the HTC fuze rollup, you might get some ideas. Conantroutman made one for the captivate when he took midship of those forums. That one had everything bundled together. Some devices wikis are pretty nice, too. Maybe get an idea from that. The captivate is pretty good. Vibrant and epic are ones to get an idea of what not to do.
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jerdog said:
If any moving needs to happen I will do that.
Also any of the current procedural stickies will need to stay themselves and I will look at maybe trimming them.
Later on tonight I will also look at what you have categorized and offer my opinions.
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Yeah it's all for the most part in the same place. I just moved that one dev rule thread over to the test post for the dev forum instead of the general forum's
As it stands it's all just links to the current stickies in categories.
zaneyard said:
Yeah it's all for the most part in the same place. I just moved that one dev rule thread over to the test post for the dev forum instead of the general forum's
As it stands it's all just links to the current stickies in categories.
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I've begun an answer to the problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Epic_4G_Touch
Feel free to add/update/edit anything you see fit.
I have started simple tables for the ROMs page so far.

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