I had a dream someone cleaned up the stickies on this and the android dev forum

I had a dream someone cleaned up the stickies on this and the android dev forum - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Apparently I was wrong.

A+ thread, would read again.

But no seriously, I have a 1200 pixel tall monitor and the android dev forum is half of my screen. It just looks sloppy. Not that it really matters but it just makes it hard to sift through the data. Most other device forums have 1 or 2 stickies. We have 10. 4 of which could be compacted into 1 "read first" post, 3 of them are how to root, and 3 of them are about modems (possibly out of date anyway?).

zaneyard said:
Apparently I was wrong.
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lmao yeah dev pretty loud with duplicate EK02 how to this that , unroot tip 24 etc many threads on same topic which I'm sure gets a little confusing for newbies.
Only things needed in sticky status is sfhub automatic root & Jerdog How to flash tar with odin listing EG30 , EG31 , EK02 tars.
Operation Iron Fist , XDA development rules stay intact of course.
A major + would be a qbking sticky that had all rom reviews in one place.
Its simple stuff not confusing getting the job done.
From there merge 4 of the same topics together leaving kernels and rom threads in tact.
End result is clean organized forum

ok - you're going to complain and clutter the thread - one of you can be part of the solution.
Which of you wants to take a sticky to create:
Current Root Processes
Return to Stock Options
Kernels/Mods/ROMs/Recoveries
The key is you will have to maintain it. But if you can complain and clutter, then I think you're capable of compiling info and updating.
Otherwise......... i think you get the idea.

Thanks for the reply. I'll look at writing a few threads up when I get home from the gym.
Is it preferred that I link back to the original writer for some of these things? Copy pasta seems too much like stealing other peoples work to me.

zaneyard said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll look at writing a few threads up when I get home from the gym.
Is it preferred that I link back to the original writer for some of these things? Copy pasta seems too much like stealing other peoples work to me.
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create a post that has links to the original information - is just an informational sticky - title it so that it's easy to understand - maintain it - etc.
Also someone who wants to keep track of a list of ROMs.... Even one thread that has Kernels/Mods/ROMs/Recoveries all in one

jerdog said:
create a post that has links to the original information - is just an informational sticky - title it so that it's easy to understand - maintain it - etc.
Also someone who wants to keep track of a list of ROMs.... Even one thread that has Kernels/Mods/ROMs/Recoveries all in one
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I agree, I just thought about how if it was copied you would lose all of the old discussion.
I'll lay out a rough organizational later.

excellent idea!

Do you guys think we should have root guides in the dev forum, or the general forum? As of now we have them in both.

If any of you been a while, you might remember the sticky rollup. In that that you have a ton of links to the threads and the single sticky itself is just used for suggestions for other links. Once those links have been added, the posts deleted to clean the thread.
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zaneyard said:
Do you guys think we should have root guides in the dev forum, or the general forum? As of now we have them in both.
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Depends - if one is a guide but has actual development work in it, then it's dev. But if it's a general guide of how to do it and just links elsewhere it could go either place

Test post for general.
Bandage's new user guide including root guide
QBKing77's root, unroot, cwm, and tips thread (with videos)
Rules
Do not post questions in general
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Other Information
Epic 4G Touch IRC channel
ICS 4.0 Sources
Jerdog's Moderator introduction
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I just included all the stuff that is currently sticked in general. I'll probably add root guides from the dev forum if there are any in there that can be moved.

zaneyard said:
Bandage's new user guide including root guide
Do not post questions in general
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
Epic 4G Touch IRC channel
ICS 4.0 Sources
Jerdog's Moderator introduction
I just included all the stuff that is currently sticked in general. I'll probably add root guides from the dev forum if there are any in there that can be moved.
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Thanks for stepping up and walking the walk...
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

Test post for dev
RULES AND IMPORTANT INFO
If you did not create it, then it doesn't belong here
OPERATION: Iron Fist
GNU General Public License
No questions here and use the search tool
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
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Guides
QBKing77's root, unroot, cwm, and tips thread (with videos)
Using ODIN to flash your Epic 4G Touch (windows only)
Auto root your existing stock ROM (w/o ODIN/ROM Flash)
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Modem information
[Odin] EL13! EG30, EK02, EG31, EG12
[ODIN][STOCK][TAR] SPH-D710.EG30_CL435734 (EG30 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Factory Restore)
[ODIN][STOCK][TAR] SPH-D710.EG30 ROM/EG31 Modem
Again, I just copied current stickies here. Someone else might be able to better write this one and determine what is current and stuff, as I'm not a dev or have any idea what any of it is but this seems alright.

Any feedback on formatting or where stuff should be would be appreciated. If there's anything really redundant that should be removed from the dev post let me know.
Perhaps move this thread
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
over to the dev forum?
I'm moving it over the dev post, but would it matter if it's linked back to general? I suppose it's pretty easy to move that one thread in the end.

zaneyard said:
Any feedback on formatting or where stuff should be would be appreciated. If there's anything really redundant that should be removed from the dev post let me know.
Perhaps move this thread
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
over to the dev forum?
I'm moving it over the dev post, but would it matter if it's linked back to general? I suppose it's pretty easy to move that one thread in the end.
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If any moving needs to happen I will do that.
Also any of the current procedural stickies will need to stay themselves and I will look at maybe trimming them.
Later on tonight I will also look at what you have categorized and offer my opinions.

zaneyard said:
Any feedback on formatting or where stuff should be would be appreciated. If there's anything really redundant that should be removed from the dev post let me know.
Perhaps move this thread
Only actual DEV, GUIDE, HOWTO, HACK, MOD, APP & FIX topics allowed in DEV
over to the dev forum?
I'm moving it over the dev post, but would it matter if it's linked back to general? I suppose it's pretty easy to move that one thread in the end.
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Yeah that's the idea of a rollup. One thread to encompass them all. Then you break up the op like you did for grouping like thread links together. Maybe have a section for useful mods. I haven't checked it in a few months, but if you look at the HTC fuze rollup, you might get some ideas. Conantroutman made one for the captivate when he took midship of those forums. That one had everything bundled together. Some devices wikis are pretty nice, too. Maybe get an idea from that. The captivate is pretty good. Vibrant and epic are ones to get an idea of what not to do.
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jerdog said:
If any moving needs to happen I will do that.
Also any of the current procedural stickies will need to stay themselves and I will look at maybe trimming them.
Later on tonight I will also look at what you have categorized and offer my opinions.
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Yeah it's all for the most part in the same place. I just moved that one dev rule thread over to the test post for the dev forum instead of the general forum's
As it stands it's all just links to the current stickies in categories.

zaneyard said:
Yeah it's all for the most part in the same place. I just moved that one dev rule thread over to the test post for the dev forum instead of the general forum's
As it stands it's all just links to the current stickies in categories.
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I've begun an answer to the problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Epic_4G_Touch
Feel free to add/update/edit anything you see fit.
I have started simple tables for the ROMs page so far.

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[TEMP STICKIE] Let's clean up the dev. section

It seems to be getting a mess in the dev. section lately.
Put your idea on this thread and we'll look into it.
1. create sticky for official (samsung) firmware as easy downloads
2. create sticky for some basic guides
3. create sticky with pointers to roms for the in-house cooks (rotohammer etc.)
this is a start.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?

I'd have a set of stickies including:
Flashing Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895827
Unlocking Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843323
Rooting Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859712
A *HUGE OBNOXIOUS BLINKING* Readme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888071
I'm by no means a Dev myself, but I'd love to see y'know... development posts when I lurk here.

Ok, now that i'm un-retired, i'll ask some major cleanup on the dev section.
Starting today/tomorrow between flashing my dev Tab

Several people posted dumped stock firmwares, maybe this should be consolidated into one "Get back to stock" sticky?
T-Mobile stock firmware! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855851
[FIRMWARE] - AT&T stock firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847609
AT&T Production Stock Firmware (I987UCJK1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857608
Also, rotobackup instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850359&highlight=rotobackup
Links to Open Source archives http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844981
Good instructions on building cifs module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9470152&postcount=53
Also can be used to build tun.ko module for VPN.

I would recommend having tags for the different models of tablets. ( [VZW] [TMO] [AT&T] [SPNT] [EURO] etc...)
Just my .02

We really need to have them separated... This is getting bad. Take a vote and and promise everyone would be on board!!
Galaxy Tab Android Development (CDMA)
Galaxy Tab Android Development (GSM)
Galaxy Tab Android Development (...)
Please!!! lol

I agree that the Tab development needs to be split amongst compatibility.
GSM/EUR
CDMA
etc.
That will make the issues with possible flashing mistakes lower and also enable people to find the best build for them.

A third vote for at least something like a top level and sub forums for GSM and CDMA. There might be things that apply to both, but it seems like real development would be at least specific to one or the other, if not down to the carrier level (and I'm not suggesting per carrier forums).

A sticky for my directory(bible). This will be updated frequently. And will be useful for all noobs and pros alike.
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What happened to this idea? The development forum is CRAP. I've spent the last three hours seaching for a stock ROM. Can we please, please get some mod action in here?

Sprint only section please! +100 to the splitting up compatible models.

williams37 said:
Sprint only section please! +100 to the splitting up compatible models.
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+1000000 more for spliting up!

I agree and count my vote, this forum should be easier to find and read the info im searching for it took me days to find a rom and another day to find out how to mod my device using google we should also hav more dev's more porting

wingtytn said:
I agree and count my vote, this forum should be easier to find and read the info im searching for it took me days to find a rom and another day to find out how to mod my device using google we should also hav more dev's more porting
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What we really need is a bigger community. The larger the user base, the larger the dev base. Especially in the states, it seems like no one is developing for our Tabs specifically. And from what I've found, ours are, just like the Galaxy S, different from the international version.

So do we even have a Mod ? Can they do this for us ? Its been like weeks since we asked to split it up.....
+1beeeeeeelion to split and have a CMDA and GSM and Intl section added....and then under those when people list just say [Sprint] or [VZW] in the title of the thread....

aal1 said:
So do we even have a Mod ? Can they do this for us ? Its been like weeks since we asked to split it up.....
+1beeeeeeelion to split and have a CMDA and GSM and Intl section added....and then under those when people list just say [Sprint] or [VZW] in the title of the thread....
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Your official mod is taking a break, just busy with life lately. I'll be taking over until he comes back.
I've forwarded this thread on to the admins, being that after being here for 2 days I can already see how bad it is. Hopefully we can get the sections split up and I can start moving posts around.

Can we please also have teh same tagging as HD2 section has, ie the date at beginning of title..
example...
[19.MAR.2011][ROM] Rom Title Rom Version [KERNEL]

is it possible to get this "stickie" out of the developers section?
it would be more helpfull to get serious content into there. also the actual official thread is sticky and dead.
a sticky should be something important or something must read. this thread is not a "must read"
sorry, constructive critics

I agree we need some reorg. PLEASE look at my sig, and follow the HD2 url,
Seems the HD2 overall section has recently had a makeover. It is much easier to navigate, and the people whe are not devs can op in on the thread.
The devs, on the other hand, have their own section, that requires you be a dev in order to get into it and exchange ideas. This keeps the riff raff from convelouting the threads.
So, can you please look it over. What ever work is needed to be done, I will offer my assistance to reorg the threads and topics.
Thanks

StarLog said:
I agree we need some reorg. PLEASE look at my sig, and follow the HD2 url,
Seems the HD2 overall section has recently had a makeover. It is much easier to navigate, and the people whe are not devs can op in on the thread.
The devs, on the other hand, have their own section, that requires you be a dev in order to get into it and exchange ideas. This keeps the riff raff from convelouting the threads.
So, can you please look it over. What ever work is needed to be done, I will offer my assistance to reorg the threads and topics.
Thanks
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I just looked at HD2 section, and theres nothing new there.
They have a section for NAND dev, and for SD Dev, thats it.
There are some plans in the works for the site in general that may do what you're referring to, but nothing is done yet for any of the fora.
If they give you guys the new sections, It will take me a day or so to move everything around. And I dont know tis section as well as I'd like so it may take a little longer as I'd have to go through every thread, but it would get done.
/IF/ that happens, it should clean up the sections a lot and make it easier to find everything. If not, I'm open to suggestions.

Motorola Defy Wiki page

Hello *,
I just added a wiki page to the XDA Dev wiki together with some links from the development forum.
Please feel free to edit the page and add the information you deem important.
Cheers,
CS

Nice work!
I've stickied this thread in the General forum for everyone to see.
P.S. I fixed the Android logo and added a redirect on the main index photo

the_scotsman said:
Nice work!
I've stickied this thread in the General forum for everyone to see.
P.S. I fixed the Android logo and added a redirect on the main index photo
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Why don't you sticky Sorensiims "How I mod my defy" topic?

Thank you!
Would you mind making it also sticky in the dev sub-forum? As most of the links point to dev-resources and since many questions arise concerning these topics it might help people to get started.

Looks great! Nice to have all the information gathered in one place.. will be helpful when I finally dive into the world of rooting/flashing after my exams

added new section: Recover Nearly Bricked Phone (hopefully)
if anyone wants to contribute, feel free.
will take some time until i posted everything i know
(quite busy right now...)
thanks guys!

This along with other guides saved my ass so thank you for this majorily appreciated
= ]
-Jabar

very nice

There should be a directory for all of these wiki pages. With all this info in one place, more unregistered users will end up registering just to be able to access this stuff.

clutch.exe said:
There should be a directory for all of these wiki pages. With all this info in one place, more unregistered users will end up registering just to be able to access this stuff.
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would agree
but i really don't like the idea of registering to contributing ... but it's necessary due to the times of bots and other ^^stuff

Great Work,
perhaps add the Sense Rom? It works fantastic!!!...

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Jojo1992 said:
Great Work,
perhaps add the Sense Rom? It works fantastic!!!...
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it's a wiki, give it 5 minutes, have a look, and contribute on your own
would be great thanks!

T-Mobile 3.4.2
The "Android 2.2 (Froyo) Stock ROMs" section on the Wiki needs to be updated to reflect the 3.4.2 T-Mobile ROM

IP67 it fake in Thailand don't work.
can't proof water (Some Device)
can't Proof dust (some device)
Can't Proof scratch on Screen Gorrila Glass. cause Key Scratch in my pocket.

Just updated the custom ROMs section.

Add cm7 Tom too
Sent from my MB525 cm7quarx

Dumb question: Asking here since the development forum isnt open to me yet.
I have CM7 beta5.1 but there's been alot of force close of android.media process. I want to reflash 5.1 but the custom recovery does not recognize the SD card. Is there a suggestion on that account which may be of use?
Else it may be included

Maybe an update for the Nordic ROM 2.2.2 as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13008282&postcount=1

Great. Thx very much!...i searched a lot for Eclair but now it`s so easy

It's very good!Thank you!

Forum reorganization thoughts

not trying to be mean or anything and probly will get bashed, but I had a thought about how to organize the forums so the questons asked would get an answer faster and with more accurate information.
what if we were to have a question and answer part in each of the roms instead of asking in the genereal q and a
you know sort of like each dev would be able to see all the problems that their rom is currently having.
and it would also help the people running those roms see all the current questions.
we should also have a section for the people who are on stock roms unrooted
I personally think it would help in diagnosing issues if they arrise.

I agree on a rom q and a but inside the development thread. Have rom thread ie bonsai and then a bonsai q and a thread with the most repeated q and a's on the op. This is more work for the devs and entirely up to them. It will help out in organization instead of cluttering a development thread with the same question. have the main thread for dl link, changelog, install instructions, possibly bug reports (some have a dedicated page for this) and that's it.
Edit: and most importantly feedback.
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To do that, it would need to be reorganized such that roms would each get their own subforum. Then, they could have a "get the new version here" thread, a "general info" thread, and then all the random individual threads. If you have seen how mod forums are organized at civfanatics, you know what I'm talking about.
Lately, I've been thinking we need a "Guides and FAQs" section. Make everyone post guides being worked on in a "works in progress" subforum and then a mod can move completed guides to the main forum. We might be able to get a nice little knowledge base here if a few people wanted to chip in and write out a lot of what we have learned.

DiGi760 said:
and then a mod can move completed guides to the main forum.
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srsly? we cant even get the one overworked mod to move much around as it is.

Which is why I haven't previously suggested the idea.
But, seriously, we need a couple more good mods who want to help build a community here. I know how tough it is. I've been around a lot of forums, both good and bad. It can be hard to find people who are both willing to do the job and mature enough to do it well.

[25/7/11] New Rules For The Dev SectionThread Deleted/Locked Please Read

I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
[Q]Surely thats a bit harsh aint it??
[A]Not really....
We've tried to be nice about it but that clearly doesnt work.
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If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA
Post What Where:
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?

Hopefully this brings some change to the forum, this site is a great place to learn and develop for everyone no matter what stage of the game your in. There are quite a few people here that really put forth the effort to help others no matter how fundamental the question is and it would be a shame to see XDA take a turn like other forums have in the past.

To: conantroutman
You are my Freakin Hero, Thank You!!! LOL

The annoying thing is, people are STILL not following the rules -_-

GazaIan said:
The annoying thing is, people are STILL not following the rules -_-
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They probably never will but at least now they are being punished so that they either learn from their mistakes or leave...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

I understand where you are coming from but...yes a bit harsh, so many people come he now and then etc, Just my thoughts. I will post what I deem necessary in what I think the proper thread is. Obviously not going to ask how to flash rom, (which is in developers section) Maybe you should move those topics out to faq or general, it only draws more attention to the dev. section
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conantroutman said:
They probably never will but at least now they are being punished so that they either learn from their mistakes or leave...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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This will only drive people away, ban me and I surely will look for another forum and recomend it to my friends, thats the mentallity, because what you have on these forums is also on 3 others, please dont tick off ppl. I personally dont think this is the right approach. Educate people first. I have been admin for several forums, very hostile ones at that, please take some advice.

[25/7/11] Updated Rules Of The Development Section Please Read, Then Read Again

Can this be posted on all dev boards please? It is sorely missed...

Dr.Romca said:
Can this be posted on all dev boards please? It is sorely missed...
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Truely ! I read them , cuz i am making other improved and detailed versions of other people's tutorials , more like the Arabic for the Jxmatteo 1.2 , and the storage thing , and other stuff ... so i don''t want to mess up with the rules since i am enjoying helping people ...

hm

The spirit of XDA
Read this from the beginning till the end

Henry_01 said:
Read this from the beginning till the end
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Good read
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Develop Bugs

welcome