I love to take photos, and I dont have a digital camera (I dont even know if it would be any better than my phones) so I use my phone. I used to have a problem with my camera taking blurry pictures when not in sunlight, but figured out what ISO is and fixed the problem.
My new problem is that my pictures seem to have a grainy feel to them. Its like little blue green and red dots all over, and it annoys me. Im wondering if theres a way to fix that or an explanation.
Are you able to post a pic that you've taken with the camera? I've noticed when taking pictures things can be grainy if I take a really up close shot of something, but I think that's because there is no macro-mode (like most SLRs and Point-and-Click cameras have). But when I take a normal picture with it everything comes across really smooth.
I guess
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Is that good enough?
Edit: i think i solved the problem myself. I think it happens in low light situations.
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It almost looks as if the camera is out of focus. Do you get the same results when you use the LED flash?
Edit: I just saw the edited post. That was going to be my next idea. Its probably something with the white balance.
No. That's how I think I figured it out that its light causing the problem. When I take it outdoors there is like no grains watch.
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Its called noise, and it happens with any digital camera when you crank up the ISO in low light situations. Its pretty similar to the graininess you would see in a film camera set to high ISO, but the cause is the digital sensor instead of the film itself.
http://www.photoxels.com/tutorial_noise.html
Some reviews I've read seem to hint that HTC phones tend to be a little heavy in the noise department compared to some other phones. I doubt there's not much that can be done about it.
Thank you all. I have one more question. There is this photo effect that I really like that mskes the sky have a greenish look to it and makes every object look better. It is usually accompanied by a background blur to make the object pop out. Here is an example of the effect.
I just wanr to know how that effect is done and or what it is called.
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No. That's how I think I figured it out that its light causing the problem. When I take it outdoors there is like no grains watch.
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your cameras lens is dirty as hell ?
the other effect you're loooking for is called a bokeh (spelled right i think) and it's possible with some phones. haven't tried on the g2 yet, but dslr's do a fine job of it.
If you're using your G2 as a camera, I would *highly* recommend that you install the Virtuous (or another Sense/Desire Z-based ROM), as the camera application is way superior to what you get on a stock ROM (or Cyanogen). In the Sense camera app, there are even a handful of filters you can apply as you're taking the photo, one of which is this bokeh that you're interested in - even has a slider so you can adjust the parts of the pic that get blurred/focused.
What if I really hate sense. Is there a way I can simply get the sense camera while keeping cm?
-Mylenthes with his awesome G2
I searched bokeh and it isn't really the effect. The effect is accompanied by bokeh, but isn't just bokeh. It has a greenish look to it. Thanks anyway, and still wondering how tovget sense camera on cm.
-Mylenthes with his awesome G2
Use "Vignette" and you'll never use any other camera apps again. This app has the settings you need to take a pic like that.
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I use vignette, but it doesn't have bokeh or the effect I like. It is a grear app though.
-Mylenthes with his awesome G2
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I use vignette, but it doesn't have bokeh or the effect I like. It is a grear app though.
-Mylenthes with his awesome G2
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Try tilt-shift. Its a similar effect to bokeh, where you can blur areas of the photo. I think the leaf picture you posted is just that and some color filtering/manipulation. Although, I'm not expert at photo editing, I just know a couple tricks.
I don't like the tilt shift. There is not enough customizability with it.
-Mylenthes with his awesome G2
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I don't like the tilt shift. There is not enough customizability with it.
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I see what you mean, there is no control over what areas are in/out of focus. There are lots of different photo edited apps on the market (some of them free), play around with a few of them. Better yet, get Photoshop (or the consumer level Photoshop Elements). The Android apps are just toys compared to a real photo editing suite.
My sister has Photoshop. Also I found the effect. It's called lomo. Also there is an app that does a Boleyn effect so thanks for all your help.
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My sister has Photoshop. Also I found the effect. It's called lomo. Also there is an app that does a Boleyn effect so thanks for all your help.
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That's a cool effect (Lomo). Thanks for sharing, I wasn't familiar with it. As I suspected, the effect can be simulated with edge blurring and color manipulation, but of course its easier if the app/program you are using has a built in Lomo effect.
http://www.digital-photography-school.com/how-to-make-digital-photos-look-like-lomo-photography
I'm currently playing around with a market app called PicSay Pro. Seems pretty cool so far. It costs the same as Vignette ($4), but lots more ability to scale/adjust some of the effects parameters. It has the Lomo effect, as well as a nice vignette effect (edge blurring) tilt-shift (lets you pick the focused area, and amount of blur) and a bunch of other stuff.
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Hey everyone,
recently bought xperia z with stock firmware .434 and then updated to .253 but not too happy with the camera update. I don't know what sony has done but the pictures that i take indoors are full of noise not just on the darker parts of the picture but almost all around it. i'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem. so i ask if anyone can provide me with the stock camera app of .434 firmware which can be flashed on firmware .253.
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Hey everyone,
recently bought xperia z with stock firmware .434 and then updated to .253 but not too happy with the camera update. I don't know what sony has done but the pictures that i take indoors are full of noise not just on the darker parts of the picture but almost all around it. i'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem. so i ask if anyone can provide me with the stock camera app of .434 firmware which can be flashed on firmware .253.
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It's not just because of the app but kernel tweaks and other stuff.
Camera is much better in .253 so far. Noisier pics, I agree, but they also are sharper and preserve fine details better.
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Pd: indoors, use night portrait scene or Normal mode and stabilizer off.
Use SCN mode, you will extreme happy.
SCN MODE is the best for. 253 firmware.
Thanks for your replies juanmaasecas and Andrewtst and yes i do believe that the camera produces much more sharper images during good lighting conditions but pictures taken during low light and times when we have to fire up the flash, i just can't bear the noise that creeps up. it's just preference that i would like my pictures softer rather than noisier. so i believe i need to downgrade if i need the earlier camera. How about third party apps? will there be any difference in picture quality? or maybe 4.2 camera app or the cybershot camera app optimized for xperia z.
Thanks again..
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Thanks for your replies juanmaasecas and Andrewtst and yes i do believe that the camera produces much more sharper images during good lighting conditions but pictures taken during low light and times when we have to fire up the flash, i just can't bear the noise that creeps up. it's just preference that i would like my pictures softer rather than noisier. so i believe i need to downgrade if i need the earlier camera. How about third party apps? will there be any difference in picture quality? or maybe 4.2 camera app or the cybershot camera app optimized for xperia z.
Thanks again..
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Did you you try what they said?
Use SCN night portrait. See the pictures topic in this section for some samples.
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Hi dude...use hdr or sc:backlight and see the magic...
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new stock camera is great..
anyway, you can remove noise with stock scene function night portrait and with app ProCapture with reduce noise function
with night portrait scene you have details and denoise, one light year from old artificial denoise
Night portrait may produce less noisy pictures but it gets the white balance wrong like all other auto modes.
The indoor and low light shots in normal mode, which is the only way to get the white balance right, are very poor indeed. Noise riddled.
More detail but a lot of the pictures are unusable.
I don't use cropped images and I feel the camera's details where fine as there were at no crop so I'm not convinced by this more detail for more noise exchange at all.
I too I'm leaning towards the position of the OP.
I wonder, don't you guys like clean images.
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hey everyone
thanks for your suggestion. after trying different settings and modes specially night portrait , night portrait denoises the picture pretty well but your hands should be steady while taking a picture and with shaky hands like mine , 1 out of 3 pictures came out ok . most of the time i'm taking pictures of my friends and family so night portrait was not that reliable because while taking picture either the person moves or my hands. i'm thinking of downgrading to .434 . would like to have your suggestions and downsides to downgrading my xz.
Edit : i'm gonna upload a picture which might be the worst picture taken by my xz .
Coming from a professionally calibrated plasma TV, I find the colors very unrealistic when using the Tab S for movie / TV viewing. The colors are way too intense / overblown, and peoples faces appear too pink/red. Is there any way to fix this?
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Coming from a professionally calibrated plasma TV, I find the colors very unrealistic when using the Tab S for movie / TV viewing. The colors are way too intense / overblown, and peoples faces appear too pink/red. Is there any way to fix this?
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Have you not tried switching display modes?
I find basic mode to be the most realistic, the colours are nowhere near as saturated and much more natural.
I've tried cinema mode. It works for me.
Make sure Reading Mode is not on.
There is a way to calibrate the screen, but for now it involves building kernel from source. I was doing it back on my GT-P6800.
If someone more skilled in kernel patching would make a sysfs interface for that.
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Coming from a professionally calibrated plasma TV, I find the colors very unrealistic when using the Tab S for movie / TV viewing. The colors are way too intense / overblown, and peoples faces appear too pink/red. Is there any way to fix this?
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There is a way to calibrate the screen, but for now it involves building kernel from source. I was doing it back on my GT-P6800.
If someone more skilled in kernel patching would make a sysfs interface for that.
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I have the 10.5 and am praying someone makes a basic kernel that allows this. The tablet just has a nasty orange/greenish tint when showing human skin. It's the only thing about the tablet I don't like and tried getting used to but can't. Watching videoe, looking at pictures, it's very annoying and forget about editing photos on the tablet, with this tint it's so hard to judge colors that I can't edit raw files using photomate r2 anymore because I end up compensating for the tablets natural tint that the edited pics look ok on the tablet but lacks greens everywhere else.
Anyhow, I'm rambling, but praying for a kernel that allows us to edit the screen tint in synapse!
romnation said:
Coming from a professionally calibrated plasma TV, I find the colors very unrealistic when using the Tab S for movie / TV viewing. The colors are way too intense / overblown, and peoples faces appear too pink/red. Is there any way to fix this?
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I have the 10.5 and am praying someone makes a basic kernel that allows this. The tablet just has a nasty orange/greenish tint when showing human skin. It's the only thing about the tablet I don't like and tried getting used to but can't. Watching videoe, looking at pictures, it's very annoying and forget about editing photos on the tablet, with this tint it's so hard to judge colors that I can't edit raw files using photomate r2 anymore because I end up compensating for the tablets natural tint that the edited pics look ok on the tablet but lacks greens everywhere else.
Anyhow, I'm rambling, but praying for a kernel that allows us to edit the screen tint in synapse!
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Found one more screen mode in Accessibility settings AMOLED Cinema (standard), but a bit less contrast.
To try it you can go to Settings > Accessibility > Vision > Color adjustment
Now you'll be offered to sort some color tiles. If you place them correct, it'll say that 'color adjustment unnecessary', but if you switch couple of them, it'll enable color adjustment. It looks like some hue shift, not too much use for healthy vision, but you can turn the 'Color adjustment' slider down and will have that less contrast mode.
Please check it and say, what you think.
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Found one more screen mode in Accessibility settings AMOLED Cinema (standard), but a bit less contrast.
To try it you can go to Settings > Accessibility > Vision > Color adjustment
Now you'll be offered to sort some color tiles. If you place them correct, it'll say that 'color adjustment unnecessary', but if you switch couple of them, it'll enable color adjustment. It looks like some hue shift, not too much use for healthy vision, but you can turn the 'Color adjustment' slider down and will have that less contrast mode.
Please check it and say, what you think.
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You dear sir, has made my tablet experience so much better! Skin tones are now life like and doesn't look completely unnatural. This is a welcomed improvement though it seems to also adjust contrast which I'd rather it not do, but I'm still quite pleased.
Thanks again!
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I've tried a few configurations and have found this to be the best setting, the colors are spot on and look like they do on my MacBook.
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I've tried a few configurations and have found this to be the best setting, the colors are spot on and look like they do on my MacBook.
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Are the whites better?
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Where was the slider at default?.....I sent it back for new one because of black clipping in dark sceens it was like pixelated. Mine it was less saturated so thats good to know if i want more color.. Thanks for the info
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I've tried a few configurations and have found this to be the best setting, the colors are spot on and look like they do on my MacBook.
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By configurations you mean order of that color tiles? Can you remember how did you ordered them and how that affected the image?
Amazing stuff here. Thanks!
Please, have a look here
Went through the the color sorting thing and after I was done it said "Color adjustment is not necessary", so I guess mine was set up right. The only time people ever looked overly orange to me was when I was watching Jersey Shore repeats.
I've just got my xperia yesterday and have now noticed in Facebook when I'm scrolling down my feed when I see a video it's very sharp and pixely. It's driving me mental.. In the YouTube app all the videos I watch are very sharp/pixelated, lower the quality the worse it gets but in full HD 720p 1080p it still looks bad but it's not pixely it's just very sharp.. Dont know how to post pics to show you. I've went through the phones screen setting and tried everything but it's still pixely and sharp it's driving me insane.. Anyone else have the same problem?
It it just me having this problem? Is anyone else having this problem?
I know what you mean. It's a big screen, but I think the PPI is not that high. I also took out an Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom with the Xperia so I could compare both, and the Asus' screen is miles ahead in video and graphics quality. That being said, the Xperia's shine is in it's .5 inch larger screen.
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I've just got my xperia yesterday and have now noticed in Facebook when I'm scrolling down my feed when I see a video it's very sharp and pixely. It's driving me mental.. In the YouTube app all the videos I watch are very sharp/pixelated, lower the quality the worse it gets but in full HD 720p 1080p it still looks bad but it's not pixely it's just very sharp.. Dont know how to post pics to show you. I've went through the phones screen setting and tried everything but it's still pixely and sharp it's driving me insane.. Anyone else have the same problem?
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Didn't noticed. For me works great. Of course depends on uploaded film or photo quality
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Didn't noticed. For me works great. Of course depends on uploaded film or photo quality




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Yours does it too. Looks horrid. My Z3 was better
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Yours does it too. Looks horrid. My Z3 was better
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I think you overreacting. On smaller TV everything looks better too. On YouTube HQ videos looks normally. I don't speak about 360p, cause it looks horrible even on my XZ.
Sorry I'm asking, but are you tried to change image enhancement and display size?
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I think you overreacting. On smaller TV everything looks better too. On YouTube HQ videos looks normally. I don't speak about 360p, cause it looks horrible even on my XZ.
Sorry I'm asking, but are you tried to change image enhancement and display size?
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I'm not. I was just so excited for the phone to come out to only find that what ever format of video being played looks horrid. I've tried every setting but still any video I watch looks like something from 2004. I've replaced this phone 3 times now and same issue.
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I'm not. I was just so excited for the phone to come out to only find that what ever format of video being played looks horrid. I've tried every setting but still any video I watch looks like something from 2004. I've replaced this phone 3 times now and same issue.
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I'm really trying to catch similiar cutscene
This is how it looks without image enhancement and smallest screen size,
https://ibb.co/i7Liga
and this is in super-vivid mode and (also) smallest screen size
https://ibb.co/eqeb1a
so maybe try some settings one more time (take three deep breath). I fully understand your excitement
I feel like an idiot haha. I turned off image inchancement and tried watching videos and they look way better. Tried super vivid and they looked horrid. Turned off image inchancement and everything looks beautiful thanks ..
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I feel like an idiot haha. I turned off image inchancement and tried watching videos and they look way better. Tried super vivid and they looked horrid. Turned off image inchancement and everything looks beautiful thanks ..
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Sometimes the simplest solutions lead to the best results I'm glad i can help.
The issue we're experiencing on this phone with video playback is flash in browser.
Tried with Chrome, Opera, lightning browser, same issue. In-app video playback is decent. Maybe not as good as other Android phones, but still good enough to enjoy.
Flash just doesn't deliver a good experience on this phone. The XA1 Ultra is otherwise nice and good value, just too bad it doesn't deliver good video playback in flash. Probably not a big deal, as flash will hopefully soon be a thing of the past. Haven't tested HTML5 in browser yet.
I see this phone can be rooted, so a custom ROM would probably fix this, but no idea what the camera compatibility would be with custom ROM's on this handset.
On a side note, didn't like the UI of the stock Album app, so installed ported Moto G4 gallery via APK.
Same here. Any fix? Ridicolous happening in Facebook Instagram ecc
It's an easy fix guys. Just turn off image enchancement in display settings
It's off for me. No vivid no enhancement
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Can you guys spot the difference in quality? One is taken with the modded Google camera and the other with Open camera. Can you guys tell me which is which? I know this isn't the best picture or best visual representation, I'll try to take better pictures when I find better examples, one does make a huge difference over the other though.
second is gcam
I have guessing games but the second one is the better photo.
One with stock Moto cam would be good too.
The second is most definitely a better picture, the way I see it if you look at the steering wheel you'll see some obvious color differences, the second is more full in color, if you look at the number pad in the lower right the second looks sharper. I say no matter what app it will always take good pictures in day light, night time/dark scenes are a different story though. This was using an 8.1 rom. The first picture is using the Google camera app the second is actually open camera with the camera2 API enabled and in DRO mode. I believe due to hardware limitations we'll never see true hdr+, but this is still pretty good imo. I've noticed also since 8.1 all my other apps that use the camera such as Snapchat have also greatly improved in camera quality.
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The second is most definitely a better picture, the way I see it if you look at the steering wheel you'll see some obvious color differences, the second is more full in color, if you look at the number pad in the lower right the second looks sharper. I say no matter what app it will always take good pictures in day light, night time/dark scenes are a different story though. This was using an 8.1 rom. The first picture is using the Google camera app the second is actually open camera with the camera2 API enabled and in DRO mode. I believe due to hardware limitations we'll never see true hdr+, but this is still pretty good imo. I've noticed also since 8.1 all my other apps that use the camera such as Snapchat have also greatly improved in camera quality.
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Couldn't have guessed that, thanks for the info.
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The second is most definitely a better picture, the way I see it if you look at the steering wheel you'll see some obvious color differences, the second is more full in color, if you look at the number pad in the lower right the second looks sharper. I say no matter what app it will always take good pictures in day light, night time/dark scenes are a different story though. This was using an 8.1 rom. The first picture is using the Google camera app the second is actually open camera with the camera2 API enabled and in DRO mode. I believe due to hardware limitations we'll never see true hdr+, but this is still pretty good imo. I've noticed also since 8.1 all my other apps that use the camera such as Snapchat have also greatly improved in camera quality.
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So if all it takes is a camera2 API to be enabled, I can have the exact same results on any 7.1 based ROMs too, right?
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So if all it takes is a camera2 API to be enabled, I can have the exact same results on any 7.1 based ROMs too, right?
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Possibly, from past experience the camera2 API never worked correctly on older ROMs, I didn't have to enable the API in 8.1 just enable the feature in open camera.
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Possibly, from past experience the camera2 API never worked correctly on older ROMs, I didn't have to enable the API in 8.1 just enable the feature in open camera.
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So how does one get into DRO mode again?
Edit: nevermind, got it
Ok, my turn!
One of these was taken with the stock camera using Defcomg's chromatix mod. The other with the 32-bit Google HDR+ v4.2.
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Ok, my turn!
One of these was taken with the stock camera using Defcomg's chromatix mod. The other with the 32-bit Google HDR+ v4.2.
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Just to make the differences more apparent, here are some 100% crops of the text/barcode.
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Just to make the differences more apparent, here are some 100% crops of the text/barcode.
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The second is the better one
Second definitely looks much nicer, I'm guessing chromatix? How well does it perform in low light situations?
It's actually the Google camera hdr+. Apparently aside from extending the DR, it has some magic sauce for creating a contrasty and sharp image. The raw out of this camera doesn't look that good.
Chromatix mod makes the camera look "normal" in all other modes (ie, Snapchat and AR apps no longer have that "ghosted' sharpening thing making it ugly). Even stock app looks better. So now it's on par with other similar class camera phones, but something about the HDR+ algorithm is just magic.
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Just to make the differences more apparent, here are some 100% crops of the text/barcode.
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The steps to achieve a good capture using gcam is just too tedious for my day to day life, most of the pictures I take are spontaneous.
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second is gcam
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The steps to achieve a good capture using gcam is just too tedious for my day to day life, most of the pictures I take are spontaneous.
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That's why I have and use both. Chromatix mod makes the stock processing bearable, and gcam is when there is something print worthy that's worth the effort. Also, I'm a photographer who shoots manual focus lenses and I've got kids, I know how to work under pressure spontaneously for a good shot.
So if I understand you correctly, were you able to get both Chromatix and GCam working simultaneously? I had read that the stock camera doesn't work on Oreo and moreover Chromatix only worked on the stock ROM. If not may I ask which ROM are you using?
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That's why I have and use both. Chromatix mod makes the stock processing bearable, and gcam is when there is something print worthy that's worth the effort. Also, I'm a photographer who shoots manual focus lenses and I've got kids, I know how to work under pressure spontaneously for a good shot.
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Stock. Because camera functionality is more important than the latest OS to me.
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Stock. Because camera functionality is more important than the latest OS to me.
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True but the Gcam does have working autofocus as well as higher quality HDR+ under the Oreo ROMs now so I was wondering if I could throw Chromatix also into the mix
And even libmm for killer low light video
After being bored for quite some time i found a way to bypass the horrible noise reduction and oversharpening via an external app without voiding the warranty in any way, but this results in a quite raw looking image being in jpeg, so you need to apply your own noise reduction via photoshop or any else method.
Using FreeDcam app from the play store
Set the main camera api to camera1
Jpeg quality - 100
CustomMatrix - imx362
And on the right side of the menu
Wavelet Denoise - Denoise-off
Zero shutter lag - on
You can also change anything if u swipe up from below except the iso, because u change the iso from the left iso button, i recommend setting sharpness the prism to 0-10
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Moto camera
FreeDcam
Moto camera
FreeDcam
Moto camera
FreeDcam
Idk this app sucks too much battery. Maybe because of processing images.
pradsngh523 said:
Idk this app sucks too much battery. Maybe because of processing images.
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well its kinda obvious the app is in a bad state, its quite unstable and sucking battery doesnt really suprise me.
TheIronLefty said:
well its kinda obvious the app is in a bad state, its quite unstable and sucking battery doesnt really suprise me.
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Well i figured out i was pushing it too hard with hdr scene mode and forgot to change api to camera1
Working like a charm now .
Thanks buddy. Also try moving this thread to "Apps Themes and Mods" section
Thanks for this workaround - it really makes a difference especially for us without the time to root the phone.
Is there a way to make FreeDcam app to make a shutter noise so that we know we actually took a picture? Right now there's no indication and I have to go to the gallery to make sure.
I applaud the effort to find another workaround!
This is interesting to me, however I must admit- those images have a lot of ugly artifacts that are now baked in. Yes, it appears to be getting around the NR smoothed look, but it looks like it is doing so by adding a layer of grain before the jpeg compression. Without the camera2 api, I'm not sure it is possible for an application to actually access the raw frame buffer before the chromatix, etc, libs get involved. My first hunch in that this look is artificially created by the app after the camera routine has done its processing.
In other words, it looks almost like grain is being added to give the illusion of details in much of the same way we can get details in lower color spaces via dithering. Even relatively well exposed parts of the frame that shouldn't have noise have noise. And then some heavy jpeg compression on top of it, so removing it in post with Photoshop/LR/etc is going to eat a lot of detail- arguably at least as much if not more than you were getting with moto cam. Have you tried to clean any up in post and compared them side by side with moto cam?
Interestingly, if you enable the camera2 API, there is a version of FreeDcam that can record actual sensor RAW from the G5+, and one of the only apps that can properly. But once you are doing that you are better off with any of the various Google Cam versions floating around for 32-bit Nougat. Root access isn't necessary, however in order to enable the camera2 api, you need to be able to change a line in build.prop. At the very least, you need to unlock the bootloader so that you can change a system file. You can remain stock and unrooted though. I know, not for everyone, but I recommend it if image quality is important to you.
I still think you need to enable camera2 at a minimum to get better image quality, if not just replacing chromatix libs. But this is an interesting find.