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Question for Galaxy Nexus/ICS users: does the stock email (not the gmail app) app FINALLY have threaded messaging?
I think most Android users can agree that while the Gmail app is great, the stock email app is pretty laughable. Since my company doesn't use google apps, I'm stuck with exchange, and the lack of threaded messaging makes it nearly unusable.
So, is there hope? Is threaded messaging finally in there?
No, but it's fairly usable apart from that... much better than the Gingerbread app.
Gah that sucks. Thanks for the answer!
Given that Gmail basically popularized threaded messaging, one has to wonder what the issue is... even iOS' mail app finally got threaded messaging!
I hate threaded messaging, tried but just can't get used to it. Fine for texts, but for proper email?
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Mnemoch said:
I hate threaded messaging, tried but just can't get used to it. Fine for texts, but for proper email?
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You may be in the minority then. I haven't found anyone prefering non-threaded email if they have ever used Gmail. I guess it depends in your usage pattern.
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You may be in the minority then. I haven't found anyone prefering non-threaded email if they have ever used Gmail. I guess it depends in your usage pattern.
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While I love threaded gmail... I do find that it is weird when going back and forth between 2 gmail users. Sometimes the emails come in all weird, like they reply to an old email. I'm referring to the qouted text below the main body.
I've also had problems locating information when they're hidden like that. Sometimes people reply to an email, just to take about something else... makes it hard to keep organized when its all mixed up.
I get hundreds of emails a day... keep them separate please.
My online exchange 2011 does this. Painful.
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zminor said:
Given that Gmail basically popularized threaded messaging, one has to wonder what the issue is... even iOS' mail app finally got threaded messaging!
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Going to nitpick a bit...
Threaded email has been popular for a ways before Gmail (I remember it existing and being used by many in the Eudora days), BUT gmail did popularize conversations (which I believe is different from threaded emails). Personally I hate conversations in gmail (have them disabled), threaded email in Thunderbird et al I can use, but would rather not.
As for Exchange, depending on what Exchange server your work is using, you might be able to use K9 Mail:
https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/wiki/K9MailAndExchange
"K-9 uses WebDAV to communicate with Exchange. As of Exchange 2010, WebDAV is no longer supported. For this reason, K-9 is unable to work with Exchange 2010 at this time. It will be a major effort to correct this issue."
that's why it's important for anyone who buys any phone to previously check the features they really need.
i use exchange mail a lot and the best "default" client for mails comes from HTC, therefore i got the Sensation. AOSP mail (GB) sucks, Samsung's a bit better but not as good as HTC.
Is there a good alternative to the Gmail app? I need support for threaded view, and must be able to view messages when offline.
I have my personal Gmail account synced to the Gmail app, but I also want to see my company email (which uses Gmail as a back end) in an app. Don't want to mix business with private emails though.
At the moment I access company mail through the browser interface which isn't optimal.
Thanks!
You can try K-9 mail app
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You can try K-9 mail app
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Doesn't support threaded view.
U can use the default exchange mail app. Just setup as IMAP account.
Have tried a lot of different mail clients, but ended up using K9.
K9 do not have the most sexy GUI and I hate the icon even I know why devs keep on to it ... but honestly ... come on a head of a robot dog LOL
It have some smal bugs, but all together the best mail client I have tried until now.
I actually likes it so much that I contributed with a Danish translation.
BTW its open source and its possible to download latest version from http://code.google.com for free
Best mail client is Maildroid:
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tYWlsZHJvaWQiXQ..
Better than K9 and does support threaded view.Just try it...
Mittaa said:
Have tried a lot of different mail clients, but ended up using K9.
K9 do not have the most sexy GUI and I hate the icon even I know why devs keep on to it ... but honestly ... come on a head of a robot dog LOL
It have some smal bugs, but all together the best mail client I have tried until now.
I actually likes it so much that I contributed with a Danish translation.
BTW its open source and its possible to download latest version from http://code.google.com for free
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Thanks, but again it doesn't support threaded view Though I understand there are some custom versions that do.
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Best mail client is Maildroid:
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tYWlsZHJvaWQiXQ..
Better than K9 and does support threaded view.Just try it...
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Thanks, have tried it and it's not bad. The threaded view is a bit cumbersome though, it groups messages correctly, but you need to exit each message to view the next instead of just scrolling down. Will keep it though.
Wish I could duplicate the Gmail app actually, or even better port the Mail app from iOS.
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Thanks, but again it doesn't support threaded view Though I understand there are some custom versions that do.
Thanks, have tried it and it's not bad. The threaded view is a bit cumbersome though, it groups messages correctly, but you need to exit each message to view the next instead of just scrolling down. Will keep it though.
Wish I could duplicate the Gmail app actually, or even better port the Mail app from iOS.
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Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
Why don't you use Gmail?
If you have two Gmail accounts just add them both to your phone. Your mail won't mix, you'll just have to select the account you'll use in the upper left corner.
Or you can use the default Samsung app like anlimdy22 suggested.
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Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
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K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
anlimdy22 said:
Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
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Honestly, couldn't get that to work - just forced closed time and time again, and when it did work it couldn't verify the settings (the very same ones that K-9, Maildroid and the Gmail app could). Better apps are usually available externally
bpivk said:
Why don't you use Gmail?
If you have two Gmail accounts just add them both to your phone. Your mail won't mix, you'll just have to select the account you'll use in the upper left corner.
Or you can use the default Samsung app like anlimdy22 suggested.
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You're right, I assumed that it would mix emails from both account but it actually works well. Can't say I think the system to switch between accounts is the smoothest possible, but usage-wise it's still the best experience I've found. Thanks.
Mittaa said:
K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
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Yes, K-9 is powerful and feature-rich but I just prefer the Gmail app. The threaded view alone is worth it. Each to their own though!
Mittaa said:
K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
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Turn off word suggestion in Swype, it will help you to edit mail in default email app.
On the subject, the stock GMail app is the worst client I've ever seen. No multi touch is a PITA. The stock email app is good, still not the very best out there. Tried almost all the clients, Maildroid and all, yet to find one which suits my need, K9 was good, maybe I've to try it again.
Its really unbelievable that the client in iOS I used 3 years back was way better than all of these in Android!!!
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ithehappy said:
Turn off word suggestion in Swype, it will help you to edit mail in default email app.
On the subject, the stock GMail app is the worst client I've ever seen. No multi touch is a PITA. The stock email app is good, still not the very best out there. Tried almost all the clients, Maildroid and all, yet to find one which suits my need, K9 was good, maybe I've to try it again.
Its really unbelievable that the client in iOS I used 3 years back was way better than all of these in Android!!!
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Actually, I'd say the iOS Mail app is still better - where better, for me, means easier to use. Swipe-to-delete alone makes it a winner.
Yes, that's correct. Simplicity of using is way beyond everything.
Anyway started using K9 again, nice, but I couldn't get the idea of getting 'Message Sent' confirmation/notification! I guess it was present before or am I missing something...!
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My main email is a domain name I own. It's not Gmail or Hotmail or anything similar. I am looking for an inexpensive mail app that will instantly push new mail to my device. I've seen there is K9 and another one called mail DROID but just wondering if there is something cheaper?
I default email app doesn't instantly push right.? Only every five minutes which I assume drains the battery
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I've been using the paid version of InoMail and like it a lot. It pushes pretty well.
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proplayer44 said:
I've seen there is K9 and another one called mail DROID but just wondering if there is something cheaper?
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K-9 and MailDroid (not the pro version) are free. How much cheaper do you want?
I'm partial to K-9 as I've been using it w/o complaints for a few years. It does push just fine. The UI is dated, but the next upgrade is supposed to improve that.
Oh sweet. I thought they were only free for 30 days. I thought I read that. I'll give them a try.
Emoze is my choise
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K-9 and MailDroid (not the pro version) are free. How much cheaper do you want?
I'm partial to K-9 as I've been using it w/o complaints for a few years. It does push just fine. The UI is dated, but the next upgrade is supposed to improve that.
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I use Emoze Push client in my Android device which gives the ability to push any type of email ,obviously Exchange ,IMAP,Gmail Hotmail but even POP3 which is very limited email protocol.
I've done benchmarks with the stock ICS email client and with several third party clients and I find that Emoze has the advantage in almost every aspect.
Push notification is stable and fast ,less than 60 sec.
Battery consumption is low ,I’m able to work in push mode without charging for at least 22 hours.
I’m quite a heavy email user so it was kind of a surprise to me because I used to have 6-8 hours max with only one account working in push.
I have 5 email accounts which is about 100-200 email per day so no kidding ,this one really improved my life ,I’m less paranoid about my battery.
Other features which are quite useful are the security options that allows you to find the device location by SMS or email
and also to remote wipe or block by SMS.
This is cool because you don’t need PC connected to the internet to get the job done ,you can simply send SMS to your phone number to activate the security process.
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Oh sweet. I thought they were only free for 30 days. I thought I read that. I'll give them a try.
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Nope. Been using maildroid for almost 2 years now.
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Not exactly an answer to your question, but I got sick of maintaining my Qmail server a few years back and gave GAFYD (Google Apps For Your Domain) a whirl. Best decision I ever made, letting Google handle my email. Plus, the price was right: Free. Now I can use any Gmail app I want to get my custom domain emails.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
1. InoMail
2. K9 Mail
3. Mail droid (serious here I had when using multiple accounts; it messed up between accounts n emails attaching totally unrelated mails in replies; so use only for one)
magn2o said:
Not exactly an answer to your question, but I got sick of maintaining my Qmail server a few years back and gave GAFYD (Google Apps For Your Domain) a whirl. Best decision I ever made, letting Google handle my email. Plus, the price was right: Free. Now I can use any Gmail app I want to get my custom domain emails.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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This. I moved to Google for my domain email about 4 or 5 years ago. The trick though is that we are grandfathered in with some extra features that new accounts don't get. I think we get more users.
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diablo009 said:
1. InoMail
2. K9 Mail
3. Mail droid (serious here I had when using multiple accounts; it messed up between accounts n emails attaching totally unrelated mails in replies; so use only for one)
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Inomail are you kidding the app doesnt actually look for email you have to manually sych in order to egt you email and it lookss so much like ios with all it's huge useless buttons and scroll wheels it makes me ill.
As for k-9 ...after how badly the messed up kaiten (crashes when you reply and is butt ugly) I would avoid anything from these guys.
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Inomail are you kidding the app doesnt actually look for email you have to manually sych in order to egt you email and it lookss so much like ios with all it's huge useless buttons and scroll wheels it makes me ill.
As for k-9 ...after how badly the messed up kaiten (crashes when you reply and is butt ugly) I would avoid anything from these guys.
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No you just need to set Push or the polling frequency in settings.
For some reason I've never really liked the gmail app.. for the past year I've been using k9 email but I'm looking to switch it up. Anyone have good recommendations?
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Mail Droid has served me well. Decently robust and handles imap nicely.
Recently I came across aqua mail. This is an amazing app that I bought the very next day after using it for a day. (u don't need to buy it though it's fully functional without that).
Do give it a try, you'll love the awesome features in it.
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Enhanced email works very well,very customizable and lots of extras
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Enhanced email works very well,very customizable and lots of extras
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It does work ok for ICS but I don't see the hyperlink in the email( it shows full path) anymore with JB rom.
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Guys, please give aqua mail a shot once...
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Aqua mail is great
This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100
This is the best. Try it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34131668
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My vote for Aqua Mail as well... HOWEVER, there is no great email client.
Installed aqua mail for about 2 mins until I saw it had no pinch to zoom feature. That alone wouldn't be so bad, but when HTML emails come through huge and you can't resize them to see without scrolling...that was a deal breaker. Gmail app works just fine for me
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I found Aqua mail had some formatting issues on some email. The pictures would be Xed out or something. Plus it has no ability to connect Exchange accounts. I changed my email to using Gapps For Your Domain as per someone on here saying it was great and it is, only it's exchange email. Most free ones don't work with exchange so I'm back to default and Gmail. I would be totally willing to pay $3 to $5 for an awesome email client but there is no way I'm paying $20. There's two real good ones for $20 I believe.
check out Emoze
I had issues with weird behavior of the push and sync and I installed Emoze Push client which gives me the ability to push any type of email ,obviously Exchange and IMAP but even POP3 which is very limited email protocol.
I've done benchmarks with the stock ICS email client and with several third party clients like Touchdown, Moxier, K9 and I find that Emoze has the advantage in almost every aspect.
Push notification is stable and fast ,less than 60 sec.
Battery consumption is low ,I’m able to work in push mode without charging for 22 hours.
I’m quite a heavy email user so it was kind of a surprise to me because I used to have 6-8 hours max with only one account working in push.
I have 5 email accounts which is about 100-200 email per day so no kidding ,this one really improved my life ,I’m less paranoid about my battery.
Other features which are quit useful are the security options that allows you to find the device location by SMS or email
and also to remote wipe or block by SMS.
This is cool because you don’t need PC connected to the internet to get the job done ,you can simply send SMS to your phone number to activate the security process.
AquaMail - definitely!!
nemesis_9 said:
For some reason I've never really liked the gmail app.. for the past year I've been using k9 email but I'm looking to switch it up. Anyone have good recommendations?
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If you don't need exchange, AquaMail is definitely my recommendation. Also highly recommended buying the Pro key. The developer is FANTASTIC about implementing good suggestions as well as fixing reported bugs. Like you, I've been using K9 for quite some time and while I still have it installed and I keep updating the development versions, - and yes, I have to admit it's getting better and better - I never found reasons to ever go back to K9. AquaMail offers (common sense) options that K9 is still lacking: full screen - especially useful in landscape mode, far superior selection options as far as the email lists, much better menu icons selection & options, optimizations for low traffic data are merely a few examples of why you should try it. Once getting used to the rather extensive settings and customize it per your liking, you may also find your own reasons to stay with AquaMail. :good:
P.S AquaMail has its own page and forum - very informative and if you feel like contributing with suggestions or bugs, this is the place. Also here I found out that there were plans to eventually implement the exchange, however, Google's recent announcement to stop supporting exchange might change that.
Never experienced any pictures formatting issues or any other issues.
All,
The default LG G3 Mail app is kinda meh....I hate the fact it does not allow me to view 'ALL EMAILS' under one, instead I have to manually toggle through my sub folders. I came from HTC One M7 and their mail app was the best I've used.
Can anyone recommend me other alternative that is not Touchdown? I hate the old looking UI of Touchdown.
I'm trying Nine Mail App now...so far so good? Any others?
Thanks!
Nutzzer said:
All,
The default LG G3 Mail app is kinda meh....I hate the fact it does not allow me to view 'ALL EMAILS' under one, instead I have to manually toggle through my sub folders. I came from HTC One M7 and their mail app was the best I've used.
Can anyone recommend me other alternative that is not Touchdown? I hate the old looking UI of Touchdown.
I'm trying Nine Mail App now...so far so good? Any others?
Thanks!
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Cloudmagic. It's a great app - very useful and it integrates with other apps you might use, i.e. Evernote, Pocket, etc.
Nutzzer said:
All,
The default LG G3 Mail app is kinda meh....I hate the fact it does not allow me to view 'ALL EMAILS' under one, instead I have to manually toggle through my sub folders. I came from HTC One M7 and their mail app was the best I've used.
Can anyone recommend me other alternative that is not Touchdown? I hate the old looking UI of Touchdown.
I'm trying Nine Mail App now...so far so good? Any others?
Thanks!
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I like AquaMail, but agree Cloudmagic is good (just hated the UI on Cloudmagic myself - specifically that it felt like I was wasting my huge screen because the app elements were huge themselves).
Take a look at Nine. I use it and like it a lot for my work's exchange email account
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
Yes, I'm currently using Nine now and its good. I wanted to see what other options are there. CloudMagic looks great, but don't like the fact they store our info/emails in their cloud.
Nine,I like it much more than cloudmagic
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I couldnt get my exchange account work so i istalled stock email app. Working great.
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nsfnd said:
I couldnt get my exchange account work so i istalled stock email app. Working great.
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If you can get the stock KitKat email app to work with Exchange it should be a great option. Much of the same interface and goodness as Gmail, threaded emails, etc, etc. My problem is that I have now tried two phones and at least 5 custom ROMs (on my HTC One X) and I have never been able to get the stock KitKat app to work with Exchange. I have tried CleanROM, Viper, Paranoid, Cyanogen, ASOP, as soon as the OS is 4.4 or newer Exchange simply does not work. Things work with the 4.3 Email.apk and Exchange2.apk but that does not have threading. Yes, I have tried all sorts of posted workarounds, Exchange2Google.apk from various sources, etc, no luck. There are numerous threads out there from people claiming to have this problem. Must be a Google screwup because the Samsung, HTC, and LG OEM apps have absolutely no issues with Exchange under KitKat.
If anyone knows of a workaround please PM me or just respond to this thread.
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If you can get the stock KitKat email app to work with Exchange it should be a great option. Much of the same interface and goodness as Gmail, threaded emails, etc, etc. My problem is that I have now tried two phones and at least 5 custom ROMs (on my HTC One X) and I have never been able to get the stock KitKat app to work with Exchange. I have tried CleanROM, Viper, Paranoid, Cyanogen, ASOP, as soon as the OS is 4.4 or newer Exchange simply does not work. Things work with the 4.3 Email.apk and Exchange2.apk but that does not have threading. Yes, I have tried all sorts of posted workarounds, Exchange2Google.apk from various sources, etc, no luck. There are numerous threads out there from people claiming to have this problem. Must be a Google screwup because the Samsung, HTC, and LG OEM apps have absolutely no issues with Exchange under KitKat.
If anyone knows of a workaround please PM me or just respond to this thread.
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Just suggesting,
I've had a lot of headaches trying to make my exchange work on android.
Auto settings never worked for me, i had to manually type the server user password and such.
My problem was that i was not typing the domain before username.
Im pointing this out because LG email app has a domain field and stock email app doesnt.
So what I do is I fill domain\[email protected] in username field on stock email app, and i use pod51015.outlook.com on server field. And it works like that. Server might be different for you.
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Just suggesting,
I've had a lot of headaches trying to make my exchange work on android.
Auto settings never worked for me, i had to manually type the server user password and such.
My problem was that i was not typing the domain before username.
Im pointing this out because LG email app has a domain field and stock email app doesnt.
So what I do is I fill domain\[email protected] in username field on stock email app, and i use pod51015.outlook.com on server field. And it works like that. Server might be different for you.
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Yeah, I have seen numerous people suggest that as a workaround but it has never worked for me. Perhaps the email server is not correct, I need to go talk to the IT guys. The annoying part is that the phone vendor email app always successfully auto-configures. It seems that everyone except Google has figured out how to do this correctly.
GroovyGeek said:
Yeah, I have seen numerous people suggest that as a workaround but it has never worked for me. Perhaps the email server is not correct, I need to go talk to the IT guys. The annoying part is that the phone vendor email app always successfully auto-configures. It seems that everyone except Google has figured out how to do this correctly.
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Yeah, IT people here gave me the server info. You should try entering manually next.
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Yeah, IT people here gave me the server info. You should try entering manually next.
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Well, I finally figured out how to make the stock kitkat 4.4 email app work. You can first let something like the oem email all run, then go look at the settings a day then manually reproduce them in the kitkat app. In my case I needed to specify the server as webmail.company.com and select the "all certificates" option.
However, it appears that I was wrong in my claim that the stock kitkat email apk threads. That is not the case.
Nine actually looks quite good, and just when I was wondering how they can afford to give away such a sophisticated polished app I noticed that there is a silent 7 day trial, after which it is pay to play. Seems to be worth the $10.
1st impression of Nine is very good. Paid for the $10 license less than 10 min after installing it.
twosix said:
1st impression of Nine is very good. Paid for the $10 license less than 10 min after installing it.
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It does look very good and the support is incredibly responsive. There is a bit of mystery Engrish in the menu items and some of the settings and UI are far from logical but that is a small price to pay for the functionality.
Do any of these apps integrate exchange emails into appointments on your regular calendar automatically?
Also I'm looking for one that doesn't make me put a ridiculous password on my phone.
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Do any of these apps integrate exchange emails into appointments on your regular calendar automatically?
Also I'm looking for one that doesn't make me put a ridiculous password on my phone.
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Nine allows for this. Exchange and appointments into regular calendar. You are given the choice of applying security at the app level instead of the device level. So you only have to enter PIN when opening the app...not when unlocking the device.
There is an app called Enhanced Email that allows you to bypass security completely.
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stevieraveon said:
NThere is an app called Enhanced Email that allows you to bypass security completely.
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There are also a number of modules for Xposed that let you do the same at the OS level. The one I like best is called Lockscreen Bypass
I use Mailwise and it works great!
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There are also a number of modules for Xposed that let you do the same at the OS level. The one I like best is called Lockscreen Bypass
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unfortunately im on ART