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Rooting with visionary

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm very new to this. I have temp root with visionary and I have the phone overclocked and it works perfectly. What makes things go wrong usually with the visionary method for achieving permroot? It seems like the program would work the same on most devices, but it doesn't seem like its 100 percent from what I've read.
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awallz6 said:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm very new to this. I have temp root with visionary and I have the phone overclocked and it works perfectly. What makes things go wrong usually with the visionary method for achieving permroot? It seems like the program would work the same on most devices, but it doesn't seem like its 100 percent from what I've read.
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the only thing that has "gone wrong" with permarooting for me is that when I completely power down my phone and plug it into the charger the phone will just automatically boot into recovery every time. Other then that permarooting is the way to go and don't have one complaint other then the booting into recovery while charging thing

People should stop complaining when something wrong happens with the visionary method. The rage method is much more reliable... Worked the first time for me, and honestly it's less complicated.

I think paul wishes he never added a perm root option. If you have any doubts use the rage method it only about 4 lines of code...
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This is the visionary method, but works fine.
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
This is the visionary method, but works fine.
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Then perm root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Then flash a rom
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Remember don't assume you know how to temp root properly, follow all three videos start to finish and you should have no problems

eioous said:
Easiest perm root method yet
Mod Edit: See comment below. Links removed. ~TheRomMistress
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This isn't spam, its a scam, MOD's already removed this link several times before.
Here's a link to a previous thread on the same site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856451&highlight=g2root
and I know of one other thread that was locked by MOD's
EDIT: For noobs this post is not referring to the video links in the post above, those video links work perfectly for rooting your phone. This post was referring to a link that someone had posted on this thread and that the forum mod "TheRomMistress" removed for malice links.

Temp root worked just like video.
During perm root I didn't get the correct error message after using the .ko file. Mine read:
insmod: init_module '/sdcard/wpthis.ko' failed (Exec format error)
The instructions and video state it should read:
failed: (Function not implemented)
In light of this difference, is it safe to proceed to the next step (#7)?
If not, do I need to correct what I've already done?
Any and all help is appreciated.
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Seems to be because I'm running 2.2 on a Desire Z and this is set up for a G2 on 2.2.1

I too rooted through the videos off of theunlockr.com and achieved a permroot successfully. I'm not sure if others are not following directions well, or if the app is screwing up on its own, but more than a few people have semi bricked to fully bricked their phones using visionary r14. With that being said I'm greatfully appreciative of what that program did for me.
IMHO, I would take a few days to read through other posts and set up adb and root using the rage method, as for there is no way in hell you can screw it up copy and pasting the codes.
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I used VISIONary the first time (followed instructions perfectly) and it messed my phone up - still booted and everything, but couldn't get permroot no matter what I tried. Finally took it back to the store (was within my 14-days) and told them it was randomly rebooting, so they swapped it out. Came home and did the Rage method in about 10 minutes and it worked perfectly - rocking the Virtuous ROM ever since.

I appreciate your responses. I didn't have any luck with rage (tried it several times first). Then I tried the unlocker guide. Then, I stumbled upon this guide:
http://androidforums.com/desire-z-a...locking-your-bell-desire-z-newb-friendly.html
I don't know if it has anything to do with the Bell branding, but it worked the first time I tried it. Anyone struggling might give it a look.

jonny_ringo_wvu said:
Temp root worked just like video.
During perm root I didn't get the correct error message after using the .ko file. Mine read:
insmod: init_module '/sdcard/wpthis.ko' failed (Exec format error)
The instructions and video state it should read:
failed: (Function not implemented)
In light of this difference, is it safe to proceed to the next step (#7)?
If not, do I need to correct what I've already done?
Any and all help is appreciated.
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Seems to be because I'm running 2.2 on a Desire Z and this is set up for a G2 on 2.2.1
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If you don't use the correct wpthis module for the kernel running on your phone, then it won't work as you've found. You're right that that is the "wrong" error message. It is "safe" to proceed but it has failed to unlock the NAND write protection, so your changes won't be permanent (i.e. you will have lost root again after a reboot).
I recommend using the gfree method to root/S-OFF, as per the Wiki, which means you don't have to choose the "correct" kernel module because it does that for you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29

Root help please

So I finally got my G2/Vision, I want to perm-root my G2. But I fail so much, I can't even put Visionary into my G2.... I downloaded Astro, but I need to place Visionary r14 in my SD, but I can't find a place to put it.
When I look in my SD through windows, it shows me a LOST.DIR, .Trashes, .Spotlight-V100, .fseventsd, .android_secure, Android, etc. etc. But I still can't find the spot to place Visionary, Help?

place it in that folder

ilikepu said:
place it in that folder
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Haha, I figured I'd just dl it off the internet through my G2. It worked. Configured it.

Word to the wise, stay away from visionary. Use rage.

ddgarcia05 said:
Word to the wise, stay away from visionary. Use rage.
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Whats the difference? And... What happens if I already used Visionary?

If you used Visionary and it worked for you, then that's great.
I also try and steer folks away from Visionary myself. Quite a few seem to end up with a lot of problems after using Visionary. The "rage" method of rooting is a lot more reliable, it's just that it looks a lot more "scary" to newcomers because there are commands you have to type in and run on your PC and phone. But if you read up on it, and ask questions if you don't understand, then follow the instructions carefully, you'll be fine - and even if rage goes wrong then you won't end up with a semi-brick, you just won't get root (until you fix the problem).

Ohhhh, Ok. Yeah I couldn't get Visionary to work until several tries. Took me a while. I was supprised I hadn't bricked my phone already. But now I'm pretty satisfied with CM 6.1 w/ MattedBlues theme. Sucks though I couldn't get it to work with Virtuous. I really like Sense alot more than the stock Rom (I consider CM 6 to be pretty stock)

Hope this helps!!!
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If you used Visionary and it worked for you, then that's great.
I also try and steer folks away from Visionary myself. Quite a few seem to end up with a lot of problems after using Visionary. The "rage" method of rooting is a lot more reliable, it's just that it looks a lot more "scary" to newcomers because there are commands you have to type in and run on your PC and phone. But if you read up on it, and ask questions if you don't understand, then follow the instructions carefully, you'll be fine - and even if rage goes wrong then you won't end up with a semi-brick, you just won't get root (until you fix the problem).
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+1 on the reliable and +1 on the scary!!!!
I am very new to Android,...I've only had my G2 for about 2 months...I ran Visionary temp root without issues (r10). When I tried to install in r14 to perm root, I encountered a myriad of errors, and decided not to root.
But I just couldn't give up on it....two weeks ago I got food poisoning, which rendered me useless and home bound, I decided to attempt it. I decided to use the rage method, but found that the instructions assumes that you know something about rooting. There are alot of people on this forum that are willing to help (steviewevie was one of them) to get you your through what ever hurdle you encounter.
Personally I found the rooting process very rewarding as I now have less of a vague idea of what is happening in my phone (ie not as lost as before).
Some of the basics:
- Install adb on your pc (not that scary), and read a bot on it...understand what some of the basic commands are trying to do. (see the rooting guide for those commands)
- set your path on your PC to point to the correct directory from where you are pushing (There are a few forums here that will guide you setup by step on how to do this)
-Follow the instructions to the T, and you should be ok.
Click here to go to the thread that these guys helped me while I going through the process. Post #4 makes reference to the path on your pc.
NOTE:This Path should point to the location where you have your adb tools and location of the files you are trying to push to your phone.
Post #17 goes step by step on what you need to do, and how the lines on the terminal should look like.
This is really not that difficult once you get your bearings, and for me it was a lot of fun...actually a little bored with the phone after having done this.

Put (SOLVED) in your thread title please.
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You all seem to suggest to not use visionary but use rage but from what I saw yesterday we had 2 "bricks" from people rooting with rage, compared to none from visionary

Lennyuk said:
You all seem to suggest to not use visionary but use rage but from what I saw yesterday we had 2 "bricks" from people rooting with rage, compared to none from visionary
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Ouch! Really? So no method is any "safer" yet then? Was planning on return to stock then Rage today. I take it I can't update my radio without full radio s-off? Or can i"?
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ddotpatel said:
Ouch! Really? So no method is any "safer" yet then? Was planning on return to stock then Rage today. I take it I can't update my radio without full radio s-off? Or can i"?
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If you know how to read, you can safely root using rage. Just read over the instructions a couple times first.

If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. From what I can see there is a larger margin of error using Rage, however its entirely in your own hands, so as long as you make sure you input it all correctly it should be fine.
Both "bricks" yesterday were recoverable, and both times the user was sure they followed it all correctly, it just seems that their rom corrupted during the process so ended up stuck on a bootloop.

blackknightavalon said:
If you know how to read, you can safely root using rage. Just read over the instructions a couple times first.
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Lennyuk said:
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. ...
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So we not talking about the random occurance of file corruption then?
Thank you both (i'll add the to your thanks meters when I have some available). Just need to find how to fully reverse the rage method if needed.

Lennyuk said:
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. From what I can see there is a larger margin of error using Rage, however its entirely in your own hands, so as long as you make sure you input it all correctly it should be fine.
Both "bricks" yesterday were recoverable, and both times the user was sure they followed it all correctly, it just seems that their rom corrupted during the process so ended up stuck on a bootloop.
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Are you sure the corruption didn't stem from an earlier unsuccessful attempt to root with Visionary ?
I've yet to see a thread where someone has done something bad to their phone via rage, all it does is fire up a ton of process to use an exploit which gets you root. That can't corrupt your phone on its own.
Do you have some links ?

ddotpatel said:
So we not talking about the random occurance of file corruption then?
Thank you both (i'll add the to your thanks meters when I have some available). Just need to find how to fully reverse the rage method if needed.
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Here you go.

G2 root

Can someone please help me root this damn thing. I haven't had root since the first few versions of visionary were out. I have tried the new visionary versions up to date, no luck. I have tried the rage method, and I always get stuck at the command to lock in root. I have super cid, sim unlock, real s off etc... I am able to get a root shell on terminal emulator when I run rage but that is about it. I have had two different errors when running /data/local/tmp/root. One being permission denied and the other a long string of **** ending in unable to chmod blah blah blah. All I have done to this thing was tmp root in the past, then deleted all files associated with that, and i downloaded the nov. Ota from xda and loaded that from recovery. Anyone got any ideas on what is wrong with this phone or me? I follow all guides to exact detail.
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wayde187 said:
Can someone please help me root this damn thing. I haven't had root since the first few versions of visionary were out. I have tried the new visionary versions up to date, no luck. I have tried the rage method, and I always get stuck at the command to lock in root. I have super cid, sim unlock, real s off etc... I am able to get a root shell on terminal emulator when I run rage but that is about it. I have had two different errors when running /data/local/tmp/root. One being permission denied and the other a long string of **** ending in unable to chmod blah blah blah. All I have done to this thing was tmp root in the past, then deleted all files associated with that, and i downloaded the nov. Ota from xda and loaded that from recovery. Anyone got any ideas on what is wrong with this phone or me? I follow all guides to exact detail.
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Did you read the Rage guide thoroughly before rooting? Because I had no problems with Rage.

Here's another option, check out post #3 in the following thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885430

All I can suggest is read again and try again, this is the simplest root method I've seen so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228&highlight=rage

I'm good now, but I'm not sure if I'm perm or I still need to lock it in. I just ran set cpu no prob and rom mangaer and have access to download roms.
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It seems very simple to me to but the fact that things would not go the way they should have,(I am a very good at paying attention to detail) made it difficult. I had to do a few alternate paths to achieve this because of unknown bugs or things in my phone.
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You will soon find out if it's permanent root or not if you reboot, because if you can still get root then it was/is permanent.
If it's not permanent, then we need to know about those errors from the root script that you're running to lock in the permanent root. Something is going wrong if you're getting several errors from it, and it's probably something very simple to fix.

I'm all good now. After a few work arounds I've finally managed to make this damn thing root. Finally have cm6.1.1, my first custom rom, and got this beast overclocked again, with a real kernel for a change. Now to really start "jimmy ****in" my phone. Take care and thanks for the reply.
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wayde187 said:
I'm all good now. After a few work arounds I've finally managed to make this damn thing root. Finally have cm6.1.1, my first custom rom, and got this beast overclocked again, with a real kernel for a change. Now to really start "jimmy ****in" my phone. Take care and thanks for the reply.
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can you describe more about the workaround because I am having same probs with rage, it just simply does not lock in root.
I followed exactly what was written in the wiki several times but could not lock in root upon reboot

Okay, now I'm curious. Where is everyone getting stuck with the Rage method? Because I successfully rooted 3 G2s that way (mine and a couple other guys).

blackknightavalon said:
Okay, now I'm curious. Where is everyone getting stuck with the Rage method? Because I successfully rooted 3 G2s that way (mine and a couple other guys).
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I tried rage but upon lock in the root (after gfree), it gave msg saying mkdir/system/bin failed, already existed.
I rebooted the phone and still does not have perm root, can not get SU in adb, it keeps telling me permission denied.
Also tried the visionary method posted on theunlockr.com but everytime i insmod the wpthis, it keeps telling me Format exec error
Looking for some helps

xpod said:
I tried rage but upon lock in the root (after gfree), it gave msg saying mkdir/system/bin failed, already existed.
I rebooted the phone and still does not have perm root, can not get SU in adb, it keeps telling me permission denied.
Also tried the visionary method posted on theunlockr.com but everytime i insmod the wpthis, it keeps telling me Format exec error
Looking for some helps
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Umm..."mkdir /system/bin" isn't in the list of instructions for the rage method. Are you sure you're following it to the letter?

I followed the instruction several times, word by word. After gfree -f, I did the lock root /data/local/tmp/root and the terminal returns the msg saying files already exist

xpod said:
I followed the instruction several times, word by word. After gfree -f, I did the lock root /data/local/tmp/root and the terminal returns the msg saying files already exist
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Try wiping your phone and start again.

I will walk you through what I did to overcome this problem. Check your PM and message me through that.
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If anyone is having similar problems with rage just let me know and I will try to help. PM me or post on this thread and I will try to check it frequently.
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Some people, including myself, are running into the problem with rage because for some reason,(possibly the november OTA update combined with effects from older versions of visionary) Superuser.apk would not properly push to the phone. The nookcolor method of pushing su.apk to the phone works and also locked root in for me, without having to run /data/local/tmp/root at the end of the rage method after gaining s off, sim unlock, and super cid. I simply ran rage and once I was in temp root shell on terminal, I used. The different method to load su on phone and that was that.
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wayde187 said:
Some people, including myself, are running into the problem with rage because for some reason,(possibly the november OTA update combined with effects from older versions of visionary) Superuser.apk would not properly push to the phone. The nookcolor method of pushing su.apk to the phone works and also locked root in for me, without having to run /data/local/tmp/root at the end of the rage method after gaining s off, sim unlock, and super cid. I simply ran rage and once I was in temp root shell on terminal, I used. The different method to load su on phone and that was that.
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It really is odd. I used the link I posted in post 12 on three different phones with no problems whatsoever.

I'm not exactly sure what caused the problems. I never had a problem when the old temp root visionaries were all that was available. I was temp rooted with the stock kernel oc module. Then I pushed the november OTA manually and disabled some bloatware after that. Then I deleted visionary and su when visionary came out with the permroot option. I wiped my phone after that to download visionary 11 or 12, and from then until my last attempt it never gave me any kind of root at all. So I stumbled upon the rage method and then the problems started to come up with that method too, but they were able to be solved unlike visionary.
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mkdir error as well...
Hey there wayde and xpod, can you let me know what exactly you did to overcome the mkdir/cp error xpod mentioned? I'm getting the same thing for the mytouch4g, and was hoping your solution might be helpful since I haven't seen this anywhere else... Thank you!!

Temp-Rooting?

since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
so, anyone wants to explain what to do?
(Mods; please don't close the thread until i got it working >_<)

Like the other poster said using the gfree method worked for me but I did use visionary for temp root to get the files I needed to where they had to go.
I hate to tell you to go to a different site but I used the new unlockr.com method which is the same gfree method with a mix of some of the true s-off guides.
because some file pushing commands where annoying so once you get a video guide on what to download and a writen guide over here just put the 2 together.
I moved the gfree file,busybox,data file to your data/local/tmp directory and moved the superuser apk on to the root of the sdcard and then followed the commands that actually use the file that you placed into your data/local/tmp directory.
you will need visionary just to get temp root to access the data privalge you will also need a app called rootexplorer you'll need this to get into your data/local/tmp but after you've read the directions a thousand times you'll know what I had directed you to do and why its easyier to move them manually.
I know that was a lot to read but that is plain an simple ways to manually move the files to the spot you need them without commands to move them you can do it your self but read this and the true root directions and the unlockr.com guide for this phone 3 times before attempting.
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Quick use the little steps I gave and run run away fast as you can lol
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Quick use the little steps I gave and run run away fast as you can lol
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i didnt understand that post at all
could you clearify what you mean?

Haha sorry it was a joke at the end cuz they took down the other post for no reason that I could think of you where asking for help. so I was playing around and say take the info I just reposted and run lol
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But your trying to get temp root and that's it and nothing else like your goal is to get garbage apps off your phone and to wifi tether or your aiming to flash roms and kernels?
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Haha sorry it was a joke at the end cuz they took down the other post for no reason that I could think of you where asking for help. so I was playing around and say take the info I just reposted and run lol
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FYI...They locked down his other thread because you are not suppose to post a Q and A thread in the Dev section. The Dev. section is only for posting ROMS, GUIDES, REF, RADIOS, KERNELS and the alike, Questions belong either in the Q and A section which he has now posted in or the Dev. Q and A thread started by Mod Captainkrtek HERE.

Ohhh hey well thanks for the fyi well he still asking for help and not getting far just in a new spot good luck my friend on rooting and like they all say use google or the search button in the corner there's a bunch of people that have posted the same question but look at the datas or youll get a huge brick
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comoba said:
since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
so, anyone wants to explain what to do?
(Mods; please don't close the thread until i got it working >_<)
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Which phone do you have, G2 or Desire Z? If Desire Z, which rom version is the phone running?

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FYI...They locked down his other thread because you are not suppose to post a Q and A thread in the Dev section. The Dev. section is only for posting ROMS, GUIDES, REF, RADIOS, KERNELS and the alike, Questions belong either in the Q and A section which he has now posted in or the Dev. Q and A thread started by Mod Captainkrtek HERE.
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prittyboy203 said:
But your trying to get temp root and that's it and nothing else like your goal is to get garbage apps off your phone and to wifi tether or your aiming to flash roms and kernels?
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well, yeah, i want to get rid of garbage apps and tweak some files, such as gaining my own shortcut key as it was removed to fit Scandinavian language keys.
also, wifi-tethering exist under the name "portable wifi hotspot" in Desire Z
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Which phone do you have, G2 or Desire Z? If Desire Z, which rom version is the phone running?
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Desire Z, i'm running the rom that came with it.
Android 2.2
build number 1.82.405.1 (<- rom?)

Ahh now I know what your goal is then I could try and help a little more. but the rooting part if you read one part and execute it it won't take long. how far have you gotten did you download all the files need to root the phone from any guides yet?
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Edit: I'm pretty sure we need a lot more reading done before attempting root or anything.

prittyboy203 said:
did you download all the files need to root the phone from any guides yet?
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did you even read the first post in both of my threads?
yes i have, from this one ([GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]).

comoba said:
did you even read the first post in both of my threads?
yes i have, from this one ([GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]).
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comoba said:
since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
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big fat post copied from another thread that includes how to perm root, but most of it is copied from the link in the above quote
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Edit: forget about the info posted didn't know they have 2 phones that hardware wise the same and that to root is different for each phone sorry for the wrong info

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pittyboy, i'm sorry but, can you start typing on a computer instead?
you lack of dots, commas and question marks makes it really hard to understand what you are typing.
and i have no problems with using adb at all.
not to mention that your "guide" is almost the same as the one i used in the temp-root part.
the only difference i can see is how chmod is done and if u do /data/local/tmp/root after it .

@ comoba The problem is you have to downgrade your desire Z rom to 1.34 in order to temp root and root. Heres the downgrading instructions. You have the 1.82 rom and Im not sure if the downgrading will work for that rom, others have asked this same question on downgrading the 1.82 rom to 1.34 but I have yet to see confirmation of this.
@prittyboy203 you are giving wrong advice on rooting, you are telling him to push a file specifically for the G2 to his desire Z, you might want to do some research before giving advice.
Specifically this: The following is only for the Tmobile G2...
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ON YOUR PC:
unzip the vision-perm-root.zip and navigate to that folder. There will be four files. You will need to push two of these to your phone- hboot-eng.img, and one of the wpthis-[..].ko files.
If you HAVE applied the OTA update, push wpthis-OTA.ko.
If you HAVE NOT applied the OTA update, push wpthis-pre-OTA.ko.
Code:
$ adb push hboot-eng.img /data/local
$ adb push wpthis-OTA.ko /data/local
ON YOUR PHONE:
You should still have terminal emulator up, at a root prompt. Now run:
Code:
# insmod /data/local/wpthis-OTA.ko
You should see:
Code:
init_module 'wpthis-OTA.ko' failed (Function not implemented)
That means it worked. This next step is CRUCIAL. You must make sure that you are writing to the proper partition here or you could brick your phone. To be absolutely clear- the partition is mmcblk(zero)p(one)(eight)
dd if=/data/local/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
You should see some messages indicating that it was written. Next, run:
# /data/local/tmp/root
This will lock in root, and give you 'su' access in the future. Next, run:
# sync
Now wait at least a minute, just to be safe. After waiting, reboot your phone using the power button. After it finishes starting up, launch the terminal emulator, and type 'su'. You should get the prompt asking you to grant permissions. If you got the prompt, congratulations! You have permanent root!
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Sorry for the double post but I wanted you to see this,
The method I gave you above to Downgrade your ROM HERE is confirmed to work with 1.82 rom even though the instructions were written to downgrade from 1.72 to 1.34. Heres the post confirming this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11855369&postcount=177

joemm said:
@ comoba The problem is you have to downgrade your desire Z rom to 1.34 in order to temp root and root. Heres the downgrading instructions. You have the 1.82 rom and Im not sure if the downgrading will work for that rom, others have asked this same question on downgrading the 1.82 rom to 1.34 but I have yet to see confirmation of this.
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if i was doing that; temp-rooting the first time, to get everything installed etc, would i still be able to temproot if i upgrade the rom back to 1.82? or should i do perm root because it would be better?

[Q] Help me overcome rooting Road Block for my G2 (OTA)

I am now getting this error on the Terminal Emulator on my G2 after inputting the following command line from rooting instruction...
'You now have read-write access to your /system, hboot, and recovery partitions. But you still need to "lock in" root, and give you 'su' access in the future. So just do:'
"# /data/local/tmp/root" without the # sign
I got this error message
"## mkdir failed for /system/xbin, File exists
## cp: can't stat '/system/xbin/busybox': Not a directory
## Unable to chmod /system/xbin/busybox: not found
## cp: not found
## cp: not found
## Unable to chmod /system/bin/su: No such file or directory"
Once again I am seeking help on this...So if anyone can help...please let me know. Thanks again for all of the support that I have received so far
BY the way the Visionary App doesn't work on my phone so I am using the rooting wiki for the G2 on this site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29 ...

I had this problem just use root explorer app and move the files rage,data,root and busybox to your data/local/tmp
and then youll get that first error that meaning you've done it right.
and then all the others should work now because your files were are not quite in the right spot.
so manually move the files to your data/local/tmp they all need to be inside the tmp folder I had to figure that out one by one.
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wait which method of prem rooting is this?

prittyboy203 said:
I had this problem just use root explorer app and move the files rage,data,root and busybox to your data/local/tmp
and then youll get that first error that meaning you've done it right.
and then all the others should work now because your files were are not quite in the right spot.
so manually move the files to your data/local/tmp they all need to be inside the tmp folder I had to figure that out one by one.
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"Yes, I just got the root explorer app from the market....when I tried to open the data folder it keep saying your "your phone doesn't appear to be rooted" so my question what did you used to root the phone so that you gain access to the data folder...thanks for the help....

lainvalenajr said:
wait which method of prem rooting is this?
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This is the gfree/rage method, since visionary doesn't work on my OTA G2

Sorry for the late response I had actually used visionary for the temp-root only just to gain a few sec of access to move the file and type in the commands
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prittyboy203 said:
Sorry for the late response I had actually used visionary for the temp-root only just to gain a few sec of access to move the file and type in the commands
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you are indeed on of the luck ones who actually got visionary to work on the g2 after OTA update.....you see I have tried visionary r14, r13,r12, r11 and r3 (all of which be could download on the web) none of them work even for temp-root....The only only version of visionary that previously work on my phone was the one from the android market (visionary r7), which is no longer available... By the way, if you still have visionary on your phone could you please check to see if it is the r7 version, if so could you please send me a copy...thanks

Oh wow I didn't even know I there was only a few that visionary worked for. I had used the same guide but I used a video off youtube to sorta get a look at what was going on. but they kept saying the version 11 was the only on that worked but I broke my mytouch like that. Then I got the g2 and went with the gfree true s-off method. and man I wish I wish I had the version 14 file I used but I took that off my phone asap cuz I didn't want something crazy happen. I couldn't find any other version for the life of me lol. They had goten taken down from every site I went to. so I just thought if I used it to get temp root and move the files around I could get it done without a laptop I whould be good. It only took 10 min to get mine rooted.
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prittyboy203 said:
Oh wow I didn't even know I there was only a few that visionary worked for. I had used the same guide but I used a video off youtube to sorta get a look at what was going on. but they kept saying the version 11 was the only on that worked but I broke my mytouch like that. Then I got the g2 and went with the gfree true s-off method. and man I wish I wish I had the version 14 file I used but I took that off my phone asap cuz I didn't want something crazy happen. I couldn't find any other version for the life of me lol. They had goten taken down from every site I went to. so I just thought if I used it to get temp root and move the files around I could get it done without a laptop I whould be good. It only took 10 min to get mine rooted.
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Thanks for your input...it funny the only version of VISIONARY that work for my phone was Visionary R7 (from the android market),...I currently have copies of the Visionary R14, R13,R12,R11, & R 3 none of them work....they just keep on looping and force closes....

this happened to me.. re push the files and all the steps from that first file pushing steps over again

Wow I would be pissed lol. And rite they wont load after hitting the temp root to right have you turned on usb debugging on?
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turboyo said:
this happened to me.. re push the files and all the steps from that first file pushing steps over again
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"Was re pushing the files able to solve the problem...because I have been doing that and so far have got past the error message..

prittyboy203 said:
Wow I would be pissed lol. And rite they wont load after hitting the temp root to right have you turned on usb debugging on?
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Yep the USB debugging has been on since the very beginning of my attempts to root this phone