[Q]Wall Battery charger - myTouch 4G Accessories

Does anyone know if those Wall battery charger where you take your battery out and charge it separately is bad for the battery?

No they are not. They are the same if not a little better. It also probably depends on the quality of the charger you buy. If HTC makes one then I guarantee its not going to harm anything.

Thanks a lot. Because sometimes I just leave mine in there, but there's a sensor that knows when it is full and stops charging
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yea ive had one for my phone, my wifes G1 and my friends D1 for awhile. been nothing but great

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Cheap batteries, possibly longer life...

bought these http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=260607429319&view=all&tid=0
just got them today, pretty fast shipping, about 8 business days to alberta canada. i had my doubts because of the price, but they fit perfect, have the same specs as my stock battery, and come with a handy wall charger too. so far i have 8 hours on one of them with my regular heavy text usage, some 3g market etc. only at 81%! seems a bit better than my stock battery but that could be placebo, more testing in the following days should prove wether they last as long or longer than stock.
just thought id give you guys a heads up, im happy with the purchase and now i can have 2 spare batteries in case for some reason im not around my car charger or wall charger. also have a crystal gel case on its way, will take pics of it for the other thread when it arrives.
cheers!
Ptesmoke
just to clarify, in case anyone caught it in the ad....
first picture battery label says li-poly, item description says li-ion. i can confirm they are li-poly technology.
just in case anyone caught that...
Ptesmoke
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Can you provide the battery's manufacturer and model number? Even pics would be cool.
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+1 need the new link...
sorry guys! maybe the link was somehow part of my account. but heres another ad by same seller.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2X-Battery-Charg...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a5bbbedc4
so far today usage seems about the same as the SE stock battery, but i did encounter a problem last night. i plugged it in with my SE charger, green charge light comes on, but didnt charge. i didnt notice this until this morning when the phone was off and dead , so i guess they dont charge with the SE charger, but they do however charge very fast in the wall dock that came with them. i also tried using the usb cord from the SE charger with the charger i bought, doesnt charge. im wondering if theres something different with sony's cable, might go pick up a generic micro? i think, usb cable tonight and see if it will charge properly.
anyways, sucks they dont charge with the SE charger but i think it might be because the SE battery has the overcharge protection circuit in the battery? while these batteries dont? just a guess.
ill keep you posted, and i can get pics if you want, but they are EXACTLY as shown in that ad, like, identical.
cheers!
Ptesmoke
Thanks, interesting, I was mainly looking for a battery charger, I didn't know I can find one for the X10.
Do you knw if you can recharge the original battery or the mugen one with this charger?
The price is pretty cheap I may buy one and see it myself anyway.
my SE battery charges in it, but the two no name batteries will not charge with the se charger, or my old htc diamond charger with the se cable.... i dont know if its the se usb cable or the no name batteries... but they seem to have the same capacity as the se battery...
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Thanks for the info
ptesmoke said:
bought these http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=260607429319&view=all&tid=0
just got them today, pretty fast shipping, about 8 business days to alberta canada. i had my doubts because of the price, but they fit perfect, have the same specs as my stock battery, and come with a handy wall charger too. so far i have 8 hours on one of them with my regular heavy text usage, some 3g market etc. only at 81%! seems a bit better than my stock battery but that could be placebo, more testing in the following days should prove wether they last as long or longer than stock.
just thought id give you guys a heads up, im happy with the purchase and now i can have 2 spare batteries in case for some reason im not around my car charger or wall charger. also have a crystal gel case on its way, will take pics of it for the other thread when it arrives.
cheers!
Ptesmoke
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I bought the same batteries with the charger and neither battery would take a charge.
I would be very careful of getting a knockoff battery. They are labeled as being manufactured by SE but clearly they are not SE batteries.
Did a google search and it seems some fellow died when his knockoff batteries exploded as he was carrying his cell phone in his shirt pocket. Had he been carrying his phone in his front pant's pocket he might have a different problem
The article did not say what brand these batteries were knocking off, but I would still be wary of such cheap batteries.
i already stated they do not charge with the SE charger. and if you got the same as i ordered they are the bst-41 standard and meet all specs of the bst-41. do your homework beforehand people. batteries have been used daily since recieved, no issues , and almost exact consuption as stock bst-41.
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i already stated they do not charge with the SE charger. and if you got the same as i ordered they are the bst-41 standard and meet all specs of the bst-41. do your homework beforehand people. batteries have been used daily since recieved, no issues , and almost exact consuption as stock bst-41.
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Sorry if I rained on your parade but
They are labeled as being manufactured by SE (therefor are knockoffs) and they even have a phony serial #. I did do my homework and it seems that all those batteries have the same serial #.
How do you know they are same standard of bst-41 and meet all the specs, when clearly they are mislabeled - even says made in japan and I seriously doubt they are made there.
At least I can safely say they have poor quality control as both the ones sent to me did not even take a charge with their charger.
Talk about doing homework .....
In any case good luck with your purchase
jesus has this root wait made everyone mad negative??? im thinking we got shipped differnt batteries dude because the ones he sent me are identical to my se battery in every way, even the sticker on it is almost exact, even if they are knockoffs (which is what i was expecting) they are dam good ones imo. ive had knockoffs before but these charge in the same amount of time and discharge identical to my stock battery. maybe i got lucky, maybe you got unlucky, who knows. being knockoffs i guess u cant really complain for 10 bux. right now my 3 batteries are lasting me 7 days without charge....and thats on all night too.
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jesus has this root wait made everyone mad negative???
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My God, you are SO right about this!
ptesmoke said:
im thinking we got shipped differnt batteries dude because the ones he sent me are identical to my se battery in every way, even the sticker on it is almost exact, even if they are knockoffs (which is what i was expecting) they are dam good ones imo. ive had knockoffs before but these charge in the same amount of time and discharge identical to my stock battery. maybe i got lucky, maybe you got unlucky, who knows. being knockoffs i guess u cant really complain for 10 bux. right now my 3 batteries are lasting me 7 days without charge....and thats on all night too.
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All you wanted was to help and give your opinion and review.
Thank you for that!
I am thinking of getting a spare one myself, just for the summer holidays where I expect to be away from my charger more often!
just want to update this thread, its been weeks now, and i just checked my usage today on one of these batteries. phone has been on for 22hours since last charge...30% remaining, and thats including wifi on for i would say 5 hours, and 3g for the remaining hours. im using adw launcher, and i have gps off and bluetooth off. i usually have my 3g off as well, but since im on vacation and have 3 batteries i could care less so ive left it on. to my surprise im getting really REALLY good battery life. also have probably sent/rec about 200 texts since last charge, few phone calls, alot of surfing, mostly on xda app.
but yea, just wanted to put it out there that it is possible! should get even better after root!
BTW i just recently uninstalled task killer and task cleaner, i now let droid do all of that stuff....so...i guess the rumour is true....ATK does in fact use more battery...
cheers everyone
so I just put my stock battery in before I went to sleep last night, turned off 3g to see what kind of drain I could get. its been on for 9 hours without 3g, and I'm at 97%!!!! can someone tell me how to get a screenshot so u guys can see?
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Kernel used for extended battery

I have av Evo flashed to Cricket running Jiminy IV for the rom, it is rooted and nand unlocked. My question is do you have to use a special kernel to use an extended battery? I bought a generic 3500ma battery and cant get it to charge. Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks
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well is your cord charger broken? if not then return the battery and get a refund or exchange for a working one.
The cord charger works fine for the stock battery. Hoping to get this figured out
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You shouldn't have to use a special kernel to charge an extended battery; I've used multiple extended batteries and they all charged fine regardless of the kernel. I've heard that some generic extended batteries won't charge in the phone and will only charge in a wall charger, so perhaps that's the problem. However, that's not a problem with extended batteries in general. I'm guessing the problem has to do with the phone not recognizing the battery as compatible. Perhaps, there's a kernel that has a work around for that, but I'm not aware of any. It might be worth flashing a bunch of different kernels and seeing if any of them work. You might also want to try wiping the battery stats (shouldn't make a difference, but who knows?) and testing SBC vs non-SBC kernels (I think the SBC mod only enables trickle charging, but maybe it will somehow allow your battery to charge as well). If none of this works and you don't want to use a wall charger to charge it every time, it might be worth spending the extra money on a Seidio 3500mah extended battery; I know that one charges fine in the phone. Hope this helps.
What do you mean by "wall charger"? I have tried with the usb cord in my computer and the same cord plugged into the wall charger. I am not sure what else to try.
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What do you mean by "wall charger"? I have tried with the usb cord in my computer and the same cord plugged into the wall charger. I am not sure what else to try.
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THe make chargers that you plug the battery into and then plug into the wall. You don't charge it through your phone. I think this is what he is referring to.
I am guessing that would mean like a docking station. I will have to see what I can find by way of where to get one and how much they cost. Other than that I am not sure what else to do. I have tried several kernels, but have yet to find one that will work. I am just hoping that it just needs a different charger. Thanks for the info
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I am guessing that would mean like a docking station. I will have to see what I can find by way of where to get one and how much they cost. Other than that I am not sure what else to do. I have tried several kernels, but have yet to find one that will work. I am just hoping that it just needs a different charger. Thanks for the info
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What I'm talking about is sometimes called a dock charger, but it shouldn't be confused with a docking station/cradle that the phone sits in and still charges through the micro-usb port. You take the battery out of the phone and put it directly in the charger, which plugs into the wall. It's like what you'd normally use for rechargeable AA batteries. Something like this: http://bit.ly/e8jXfQ. That's the best deal I could find.
That makes sense to me. Now I am wondering if I can find one of these locally or if I will have to go through ebay and wait 20-30 days to get it shipped to me.
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That makes sense to me. Now I am wondering if I can find one of these locally or if I will have to go through ebay and wait 20-30 days to get it shipped to me.
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If you don't mind paying a little bit extra you can get one on amazon here. Some of the sellers offer expedited shipping, so you should be able to get it pretty fast. I have one that looks just like this (I think it's the same one) and it works fine, but if you'd prefer a name brand one, you can get a Seidio wall charger here.
From what I've read about extended batteries you have to keep charging them past the time that the phone reads %100 since the phone only recognizes 1500mAh.
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i have my evo running CM7 rc4 and i just flashed savaged zen nosbc and my phone doesnt appear to be charging anymore can someone please help
Turns out it was a bad battery. Got a new 3500ma extended battery and it is working just fine
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agree dont need special kernel for extended battery, mine was just plug play and charge....on a side note, after three months my extended battery bit the bullet last night...taking it back
I need to find a 3.29 rom for cricket so my battery doesnt drain as fast. I also need to get an external charger for my battery. My battery life is about the same with the new battery due to the way the Evo charges.
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A/C Battery Charger

http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-HTC-Th..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1303779075&sr=1-1
Anyone use an external battery charger so you can charge your extra battery?
If so, which one do you use? I'm currently looking to buy an OEM HTC battery, but I want to charge it without putting it in my phone and charging it that way.
Thanks in advance!
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-...738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
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http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-...738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
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I have that one and for the most part it works pretty well.
It also has a USB out so you can, in theory, charge a battery in the charger AND use the USB to charge your phone. The phone's touch screen doesn't work if you do that, however, so the USB port on it is a bit dodgy.
- Frank
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http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-...738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
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I've been using this for months, and had the same unit for my previous Nexus One as well. Amazing price, and works perfectly, although it took about 30 days to ship from Hong Kong.
It's great to always have 3 fully-charged batteries on deck and ready to go when I'm low on juice. Battery life is no longer a concern for me, as it takes seconds to swap them out and throw the drained one back on the charger.
Highly recommended.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-...738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
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Ya I've been using this too, and other than the super long shipping i'm perfectly happy with it. So convenient
Random question but do you guys know if this is the same charger as the one for the HD2? I have two stand alone HD2 battery chargers at home. I was going to pull the trigger and get this, but it looks pretty darn similar to the HD2 charger.
Its the same one. My gf has an hd2 and I can use hers with no problem.
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Leaving phone on charger overnight?

I've read several things that say leaving your phone overnight doesn't damage it, but I wanted to make sure by asking people with the same specific phone as myself.
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I've read several things that say leaving your phone overnight doesn't damage it, but I wanted to make sure by asking people with the same specific phone as myself.
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I have done that whit every of my device i owned and including my s3 no worries ..
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Yea... I charge nightly from the Time I go to sleep till I wake up, no issues.
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The only time you would have problems is using a cheaply made knockoff charger or a damaged charger, and its hard to damage an OEM charger. Even with 99 cent eBay knockoffs from China its very rare to have one cause problems, but OEM or high quality third party is probably less of a risk.
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The only time you would have problems is using a cheaply made knockoff charger or a damaged charger, and its hard to damage an OEM charger. Even with 99 cent eBay knockoffs from China its very rare to have one cause problems, but OEM or high quality third party is probably less of a risk.
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+1... im not sure if its still in the charger or on the battery on newer phones, but they contain overcharge protection circuitry. Once hte phone is fully charged, the phone stops pulling current through the charger and pumping it to the battery. If the overcharge protection wasnt there overcharging the battery would kill battery cells and shorten the life of the battery.... so, with OEM charger and a good quality battery NO WORRIES.
the only time it would be bad for your phone is if you have one of the high out put chargers that charge super fast
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Well even if the charger is crazy high output like your saying it wouldn't charge the phone anyfaster because there is a file somewhere in the os that tells the phone how much power to draw. Or am I mistaken.
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I been doing it forever. No problems so far.
I'm going with mistaken cause I use my high output car charger when. I need battery to get through something and it charges almost 4 times faster
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The only time you would have problems is using a cheaply made knockoff charger or a damaged charger, and its hard to damage an OEM charger. Even with 99 cent eBay knockoffs from China its very rare to have one cause problems, but OEM or high quality third party is probably less of a risk.
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I agree, high quality chargers shouldn't cause any problems. If you do use one that is cheaply made, be sure to pay attention to your phone. I had one a few years back and every time I charged my phone, the screen would start to act up (very spastic, lol). It seem to still charge my phone just fine so I continued to use it, until one day I woke up and my micro sd card had been fried!! Now I stick with OEM!
Have always left my phones on their chargers overnight and I have never had a problem.
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Fake Samsung charger

I got a Samsung micro USB charger and there is blurry text.
Anyone know if the charger is fake of it is Manufacturing defect?
I think it is a manufactoring defect.
And what do you care about the charger?
If it charges your phone it's good, isn't it?
Geert
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As long as the specs are right, doesn't really matter, does it - unless you want to file a dispute for possibly getting ripped off. I bought a charger for $1.50 on eBay and it works just fine.
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I think it's a fake. They all over the place in Indonesia market, selling for $3-$5. Some look like the realy ones with hologram and same packaging as Samsung ones.
The problem with fake charger is that they dont last long, I think their components are of very low quality.
Looks fake just by the LU sticker
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I still wouldn't trust the charger very possible that it could over charge your phone
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I still wouldn't trust the charger very possible that it could over charge your phone
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ummmm not likely the phone has control over its charging... ever notice how it takes a second for your phone to start charging after you plug it in. thats because the phone actually makes the effort to connect the power input to your battery as well as disconecting the charger from the battery.. also having a higher output charger wont make you phone light on fire as the charger may have the ability to supply said amount of power but the phone will only "draw" a maximum amount as most are actually designed to do these days.... meaning i can throw a phone that came with a 700 mAh/ .7 Ah charger on a 2100 mAh/ 2.1 Ah charger and actually not have it draw more then lets say 1.5 Ah because that is the maximum it was desinged to do so. also leaving your phone on the charger after its full wont hurt the battery ... unless we are talking about several days straight. after a battery is full most charging systems enter what is known as a trickle or float speed. basically just enough to suplly power to phone as if the battery werent in it. say going from 700 mAh down to 200 - 400 depending on if your phone is actually deeep sleeping or slightly to heavily active. mid you if your screen is on during that time that number may still be higher.
now im not saying that this is always the case some really cheap and poorly built pos may cause a fire (saying as both phone and chargers alike) ... cause they do. but the reasons why they go up is nearly always due to poor quality and something fails instead of i plugged a high power charger into my phone and dantes inferno then visited on my bedside table.

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