[Q]Doc's on phone boot process? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm thinking of doing some scary phone mods (culminating in booting from an encrypted filesystem) but don't know enough about the phone boot process to know where to start.
Can anyone point me to some documentation about the android boot sequence?
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I understand you want to make a mod..that still doesn't mean a question about it goes here.
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So, a question like "how do I change how my phone boots?" Doesn't belong in the *developer* forum? That's a little counterintuitive. Would this be better in one of the general dev forums?
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We don't make the rules or even necessarily agree with them, but this forum is for more final products/roms. Think tank type topics don't belong here. Our g2 forum is getting so busy and big that its already getting hard to keep track of all the roms on here. If this was allowed this would just becoming a flaming mess. Not being combative just stating what someone else is surely to say.
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tronmech said:
I'm thinking of doing some scary phone mods (culminating in booting from an encrypted filesystem) but don't know enough about the phone boot process to know where to start.
Can anyone point me to some documentation about the android boot sequence?
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here is a great place to find info of the 'low level' life of the phone: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/Vision
talking to certain guys at #g2root might help too.

Thanks, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
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G2/new kernal for wifi update?

Since the update I have not been able to overclock my G2, first visionary gives me abillity to still have root access (thumbs up) but I cannot lay the kernal used to overclock to 1.42ghz. any help appreciated.
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same thing happen to me, i tried re-doing the process wouldnt work. so what i think the way i got it back to 1.42hz was by going to setting/ application/visionary and just clear out the data and either re-doing the process or go back to setcpu. im sure it had something to do with visionary
JmsBishop said:
Since the update I have not been able to overclock my G2, first visionary gives me abillity to still have root access (thumbs up) but I cannot lay the kernal used to overclock to 1.42ghz. any help appreciated.
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Are you in perm root? If u are, you should be able to just download the vision_oc.ko file around here and run the script in the terminal
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Why not post in one of the relevant threads, i.e. for the overclocking kernel or the overclocking kernel module ?
havent done the perm-root yet, im afraid i might mess up on something and then my phone wont work, but then again i do have insurance with best buy
please post this stuff in the right threads. this has been answered numerous times in the respective threads. so why not search those thread instead of making a new one in the DEV forum. thanks
1. You spelled "kernal" wrong
2. You are posting in the wrong section
3. There is a newly compiled kernel in the relevant thread. You need to run it each time you boot.
And to the people telling him he's in the wrong section: why don't you actually try help him. Its no better than posting in the wrong section when you make pointless posts like that
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Flippy125 said:
And to the people telling him he's in the wrong section: why don't you actually try help him. Its no better than posting in the wrong section when you make pointless posts like that
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Doesn't that encourage people to post wherever they like though, because if they post in the wrong section then they'll get the answer anyway ?
Hahaha, calm down there high speed. I just came back to Android after 2 years. But thanks for the help with my on boarding, the info is useful.
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Please Close

Figured out the answer to my question.
I assume you mean the notification bar... and there wouldn't be any way to remove it without rooting. Even with rooting I'm not sure its possible outside a completely custom ROM.
Why would you want to remove it anyway? Its a great part of android...
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I've figured it out. This thread can be closed.
What was the point of deleting your post? I hate when people do that. What if your question and subesquent discovery of the answer helps someone with the same question? Deleting your question doesn't take it off the thread, just let the original content slowly fade off into the XDA abyss like the rest of them that don't get responses.
Because it was simple overlook on my part. My launcher already had the option it was worded differently than others. So yes there is a point in closing it as there was no outside solution found by me. Plus there is another thread of the same topic posted that people can look at for a solution.
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Hoe about not posting a new thread in developmental, unless its related to developing the phone for the better......continuing to do so can and will results in a temp/perm ban
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Mikey1022 said:
Hoe about not posting a new thread in developmental, unless its related to developing the phone for the better......continuing to do so can and will results in a temp/perm ban
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uh this isn't in developmental it's in Q&A.

[Q] T-Mo/AT&T unlock

Is there a way to make a rooted and SIM-unlocked DInc2 usable on AT&T and T-Mo networks in the US? Any sort of flashable upgrade to any internal components, hacked radio or whatnot that would achieve that purpose?
Search the forum. There you will find the out that this can be done. As well as the fact you shouldn't post questions in the dev section.
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knipp21 said:
Search the forum. There you will find the out that this can be done. As well as the fact you shouldn't post questions in the dev section.
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What he said.
Also, xtc clip or call vzw and ask for an unlock code.
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I have searched and I couldn't find much on this topic either. Granted I did it using tapatalk which leaves a bit to be desired in the search department. My point is that it might be more helpful overall to just answer the question rather than refuse simply because someone missed a thread and can't manage to find it using search for some reason.
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funky_snowman said:
I have searched and I couldn't find much on this topic either. Granted I did it using tapatalk which leaves a bit to be desired in the search department. My point is that it might be more helpful overall to just answer the question rather than refuse simply because someone missed a thread and can't manage to find it using search for some reason.
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Well, I do believe it was because this thread was posted in the wrong section.
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I understand that, but it wouldn't be entirely uncool to answer the question along with any chastising someone might feel is necessary. or at least help someone in the right direction, which doesn't include the entirely unhelpful "search" comment all too common to forums with regulars.
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funky_snowman said:
I understand that, but it wouldn't be entirely uncool to answer the question along with any chastising someone might feel is necessary. or at least help someone in the right direction, which doesn't include the entirely unhelpful "search" comment all too common to forums with regulars.
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It's mentioned somewhere in the general forums. Idk where cause I use my phone and I'm in the middle of a field training. I said its possible. I believe you don't need root but Idk.
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knipp21 said:
It's mentioned somewhere in the general forums. Idk where cause I use my phone and I'm in the middle of a field training. I said its possible. I believe you don't need root but Idk.
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If it is, I can't find it.
I have re-posted the question in the General forum, but all I got there so far is more of the same arrogant ignorance that some of the replies demonstrated here.
I believe it is perfectly clear from my original post that the phone is _already_ SIM unlocked and rooted.
Let's move further discussion to the General forum to avoid moderators' wrath.
If I'm not mistaken its a global phone. However the GSM frequency used abroad is different than in the states. Therefore I don't think it's possible.
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loki154 said:
If I'm not mistaken its a global phone. However the GSM frequency used abroad is different than in the states. Therefore I don't think it's possible.
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I've used my unlocked dinc 2 on ATT and t mobile
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It works with ATT and TMo. If you are talking about 3G on them, then that's a no. Hardware limitation.
Why posting here?
Thread closed.

T-Mobile Note 2 gets 4G via update WHAT,!! (USA)

Wtf why cant we we have updates like this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-activating-ota-amaze-4g-gets-security-fixes/
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E_Goldstein said:
Wtf why cant we we have updates like this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-activating-ota-amaze-4g-gets-security-fixes/
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The N7100 doesn't have LTE hardware in it. The T889 T-Mobile variant clearly does. You cannot add capabilities to a device that it doesn't have the hardware for.
Was more of an annoyed post not physically why.
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FloatingFatMan said:
The N7100 doesn't have LTE hardware in it. The T889 T-Mobile variant clearly does. You cannot add capabilities to a device that it doesn't have the hardware for.
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That is incorrect.
See here for more information:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/25/3554328/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-lte-support
ungraph said:
That is incorrect.
See here for more information:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/25/3554328/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-lte-support
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The US models are not the N7100. I quite clearly said the N7100.
Im chilled just sick of all these mods that get on there high horse when there is far more duplicate posts to be seen than bring up a post that hadnt been touched for a few days. Lol.
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Cleaned.
Right, cleaned this thread of all the bad language and arguments.
I'd like to take this opportunity to remind members that XDA is a place for sharing, learning and last, but not least helping people develop, theme and improve their devices, not for silly little arguments in public forums - we're part of the same team, remember that.
In regards to people trying to help enforce the rules of xda, as much as we appreciate this, it's better if you let us deal with it, and help us by reporting any posts which violate the rules.
Some of the language in these posts have no place in XDA, what you might not find offensive, some people do. So lets do our best to not include any profane or foul language, thank you.
Anymore problems, use the right channels (the report feature).
Kind regards,
Lady Android
@Lady Android
Don't see why you didn't just close this thread. Your caring and relaxed attitude seems out of sync with other mods who feel that XDA is not for noobs, and especially not for noobs to bloat with their garbage, posted without reading the rules and usually through boredom or laziness.
If you want people to use the report feature; might I suggest the xda app is updated to include a report button.
Thank you for your time.
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totally off subject
ok i need help has anyone here downloaded rootbox rom there galaxy note 2
princesspeach90 said:
ok i need help has anyone here downloaded rootbox rom there galaxy note 2
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You would be better off starting a new thread for your question. It's not likely to get much attention in a totally unrelated thread.
Check GTN7100 IN THE INTERNET IF HAS LTE in it.
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EmptyArea said:
@Lady Android
Don't see why you didn't just close this thread. Your caring and relaxed attitude seems out of sync with other mods who feel that XDA is not for noobs...
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Who said XDA was not for noobs? XDA is a sharing information comunity for everybody and to prove it there is a guide just for Noobs.
XDA official Noob guide ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699450
The line I've see written by many mods is:
It's xda-developers.com not xda-noobs
And if that's guide is worth it's salt then it will strongly discourage threads like this one:
Information that already exists
Question in wrong thread
Lack of searching, reading and understanding, just more bloat for people to sift through to find the juicy cream.
Anyway this has been thoroughly off-topic we should probably let this thread die now.
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[Q] {Q}Can someone make A list of Wi-Fi calling enabled roms.

Probally will get royally flamed for bthis or have it removed, But for those like me that have to have wifi calling on our phones, is it possible for someone to make a thread with a list of ROMs with this feature. i would, but since I'm relatively new to this scene, and don'tknow any of thedevs, i wouldn't be able to get there permissions. I would make it myself if they would allow.
You can post info like this about roms, just don't post links except ones that are to the rom thread.
Unless you want something old, all roms that are built using the latest T-Mobile build, UVDMD5, will most likely have wifi calling. Just look for that build in the op and if you don't see it, move along to the next. If you want to cross reference an older rom to see if its a T-Mobile base, just compare to the build number in my firmware thread.
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So I can configure a list as long as I only list links to threads. I thought even that it was considered wrong to do without consulting the dev. Just dont want to step on toes. And if was to compile the list myself, would I put it in development section or general information section.
Sent from somewhere bizarre and no I don't want to talk about it.
calexchelse said:
So I can configure a list as long as I only list links to threads. I thought even that it was considered wrong to do without consulting the dev. Just dont want to step on toes. And if was to compile the list myself, would I put it in development section or general information section.
Sent from somewhere bizarre and no I don't want to talk about it.
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Yup. Perfectly fine to do that. You just dont want to post links to their actual roms w/o permission. Some devs like to keep an eye on download counts and stuff like that. This way they know where everyone gets the download link from. Honestly though, most probably wouldnt even care about that, but still its best to ask for anything else.
Id say this would go in the General Section.
If it is just going to contain info about the ROMs, you should post it in General. If you end up including anything like a FAQ or Q&A, then it could go in the Q&A section.
Never start a thread in the development sections unless you have something to release such as a rom or mod. (or at least the plan to release and are actively developing a WIP (Work In Progress)).
Never post questions or general info guides and such there. If deemed it needs to go there in the future, it can always be moved.
Kinda already have that....
mt3g said:
Kinda already have that....
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Shows how much people actually look/search and read.
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mt3g said:
Kinda already have that....
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Sorry bout that man! Been a long time since I've looked at it and just didn't even think about it.
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Da Kine said:
Shows how much people actually look/search and read.
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Like I said will prob be flamed but after several months if reading and searching and not finding I posted this question. Sorry for being ignorant and not finding that info. Since you say there kinda is one could you kindly point me to that thread. Thank you
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In general section. Linked in sticky roll up. Rom Bible. You can also use the link in mt3g's sig if youre on a computer. You can't see it from the app.
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It probably needs to be updated, I might do that today before work, if the time arises. But it shouldn't be too difficult to find them.
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