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Posted today on Engadget.com:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/htc-most-phones-launched-in-2010-will-get-android-2-2/
"most of its 2010 phone catalog will indeed be riding Android 2.2 before the year is through"
It will probably be released just in time for new years eve.
Look people...the best thing to do is just enjoy your phone now rather than killing yourself waiting on this because, frankly, with the wait I'm sure is ahead of us it's going to get real old real quick with the "...any news on when? Anyone have a leaked ROM? Any idea when it'll be ported from Nexus 1? Any idea when HTC will update Sense!?" questions every day for the next 6 months.
Aitese said:
Look people...the best thing to do is just enjoy your phone now rather than killing yourself waiting on this because, frankly, with the wait I'm sure is ahead of us it's going to get real old real quick with the "...any news on when? Anyone have a leaked ROM? Any idea when it'll be ported from Nexus 1? Any idea when HTC will update Sense!?" questions every day for the next 6 months.
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Hopefully it won't be that long.
On another not, is there any news on when froyo will be available for the Desire?
We should all be glad they actually announce that they are going to update the desire. I have the touch HD before this and at first they said maybe an update to 6.5 and then they said users don't need update, this was the top of the line phone at the time.
Android since last June have released 1.5, 1.6 2.0, 2.1 and now 2.2. So you can realise that android are releasing a updates every 2 or 3 months. So whats the point in trying to keep up. No manufacturer will ever be able to do this. It's unsustainable. 2.3 Gingerbread is due at the end of the year too. So we will probably get 2.2 a month before Gingerbread, then everyone will moan and complain and want that. Just enjoy your phone as it is now. Google will need to change their behaviour to avoid fragmentation of the OS. i.e. handsets running all different versions. They are working on adapting their updates so they can be delivered to any system via the market without having to be customized for SENSE UI or the equivalent. Lets hope that happens sometime.
I can understand people want to stay up-to-date but honestly, if people keep complaining about HTC taking to long to get Sense on the new Android version, why did they go for a HTC in the first place? Ofcourse, a new OS will always give nice new functionality but i'm actually quite happy the way it is now and don't really see an immediate need to upgrade.
Running r3 MCR with A2SD+ i think i have pretty much everything i need.
Bought my desire on 02 @ £285... about to start using it in the UK, but will be moving abroad in the next few months.
How will I be able to update my phone if I'm abroad ?
I'll still have an 02 sim that I could use.. but would that work ?
I don't want to root / flash it if I can help it !!
Thanks
They say before the end of the year but i don't believe it.
they promised an update for the HTC hero to android 2.1.
it was promised for march 2010 then april, and now its may and still no update
thats how it wil go with the other phones too.
I personally think 2.2 is quite important for the mass market, the main feature being apps on the SD card. Most of Joe public aren't going to root!
Recently I've converted some people from the iPhone and that seems to be the main gripe!
That's just my opinion....
ritdaw said:
I personally think 2.2 is quite important for the mass market, the main feature being apps on the SD card. Most of Joe public aren't going to root!
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2.2 is probably the most significant upgrade there's been to Android.
Two of the main reasons to root are Apps2SD and WiFi tethering, and both of these are now standard Android.
I especially like the way that you seem to be able to choose where you want to install an app (i.e. to phone memory or SD card) and can even subsequently transfer them.
Hopefully this means that you'll be able to install a set of core applications to your phone, and then have separate SD cards for different purposes, and Android takes it all in its stride allowing you to chop and change as required.
Regards.
Dave
Whats going to happen when app developers have the option to install the app to SD card instead with 2.2 and develop with that in mind but everyone except Nexus One owners won't be able to do it? (Ignore Rooting & A2SD)
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Whats going to happen when app developers have the option to install the app to SD card instead with 2.2 and develop with that in mind but everyone except Nexus One owners won't be able to do it? (Ignore Rooting & A2SD)
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They make the app 2.2 only on the market - you just won't see it on phones with earlier versions of the OS.
The Nexus One will get 2.2 first, that's a given, but I do expect updates to more recent phones to come quite quickly this time around.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
They make the app 2.2 only on the market - you just won't see it on phones with earlier versions of the OS.
The Nexus One will get 2.2 first, that's a given, but I do expect updates to more recent phones to come quite quickly this time around.
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Dave
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So does the market show the highest compatible version with your version of the os? or does it just remove the app from the market completely?
was thinking of rooting my desire but undecided now, anyone have a clue when us Desire users will get froyo? (preferably uncooked)
I think the main point is, no one nows when the desire will get froyo officially, everyone can make guesses, but it could be june, it could be december.
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So does the market show the highest compatible version with your version of the os? or does it just remove the app from the market completely?
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As far as I'm aware, if you want to support multiple versions of Android with your app, you need to publish them individually with different names.
Of course, this only really matters if your app uses deprecated APIs, or features only available in newer versions of the OS.
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Dave
Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?
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Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?
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There have been posts about this. Nobody knows for sure. HTC did say that most of the phones released this year will get 2.2 by the end of the year. They might skip it for Gingerbread (2.5, btw) but nobody knows yet. No worries though. I'm sure when we root this thing we will get AOSP 2.2 installed in no time.
I'm just as excited as you are.
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Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?
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Not to be a spoilsport here, but I still prefer HTC HD2 cause it has physical buttons. Those touch sensitive ones have proven to be a bit awkward on the Nexus One already. But this phone's good.
Yeah according to Google/HTC (I'm not sure), but there's an article that says that almost all phones release in 2010 will get the 2.2 update. Not sure about the 3.0 one though, I think it's too early
And I'm just as excited about the Evo as all of you are.
Well semi good news. Froyo is on the Nexus One officially now. So once we root this puppy we can make a N1 rom for our Evo and bam! Instant parfait goodness. That said, I don't think we will root it before Google deposits the 2.2 code in the AOSP repositories so if that happens we can just cook up our own AOSP rom. Even so, this is a good backup plan.
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Well semi good news. Froyo is on the Nexus One officially now. So once we root this puppy we can make a N1 rom for our Evo and bam! Instant parfait goodness. That said, I don't think we will root it before Google deposits the 2.2 code in the AOSP repositories so if that happens we can just cook up our own AOSP rom. Even so, this is a good backup plan.
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I think that you are being way too confident. The 4G radio in this handset is going to present some interesting (and serious) challenges as far as just adapting AOSP or other ROMs (such as those for the GSM Nexus One) is concerned.
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I think that you are being way too confident. The 4G radio in this handset is going to present some interesting (and serious) challenges as far as just adapting AOSP or other ROMs (such as those for the GSM Nexus One) is concerned.
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Definitely not a stranger to this notion. Before I got my evo I had a hero which had the same issues. I'm just hoping wecan find a way to better work around it.
Would this help?
Froyo is already said to have wimax support natively. As for cdma support as of 1.6 its supported natively. I don't see any reason we wont have radio support in Froyo. Its all there already. Or will be once its released. I have no worries about a upgrade to froyo. All we need is root and the rest is history
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Froyo is already said to have wimax support natively. As for cdma support as of 1.6 its supported natively. I don't see any reason we wont have radio support in Froyo. Its all there already. Or will be once its released. I have no worries about a upgrade to froyo. All we need is root and the rest is history
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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All the more reason to determine how we can update both the Kernel and the OS files independently.
Doesn't Froyo SDK include WiMAX support?
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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I'm completely new to posting in these forums (1st post), but have followed for quite a while.
In response to the above, I want to point out that keishou posted a link to the EVO 4G Developer's Guide which clearly states that the Froyo SDK will contain WiMAX support. Under section 2. 4G-WiMax Network, it says...
// you are on Sprint's 4G network
// ConnectivityManager.Type_WIMAX=6 will be included in Froyo SDK
// Until Type_WIMAX is supported
// you will need to hard-code the value 6
Doesn't this mean that we won't have to worry about WiMAX when flashing Froyo onto the EVO?
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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They didn't "abandon" the headset. There was a software release in between launch and 2.1. Not to mention that 2.1 was only out for 5 months before the Hero got the update. 1 bug fixing update and 1 major release in 7 months? Seems about average for the industry.
Look at the Treo 800w and Treo Pro. They never got an update, and probably never will. That's being abanonded.
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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it doesnt matter if HTC is gonna give us a update really man. we can do a much better job then them. as for HTC abandoning the hero i dont think that was the case. if a handset manufacturer updated the OS on every phone every time Google did they would be ****ing their selves. i think HTC did a ok job of releasing 2.1 for the hero. i mean really we couldve got 1.6, 2.0 or 2.0.1 but all those platforms were short lived. the fact is they have to build binaries to support major platform shifts and it just so happens that 1.5/the hero got caught in that groove. plus on top of it the hero is old news. it has a old ARCH that doesnt support most of the 2.+ APIs. hero doesnt support opengl 2.0 and never will. in a since 2.1 on the hero was kinda pointless. the only way we can get some of the 2.1 goodies is through hacking to get it, leaving the builds unstable and slightly buggy. of course us the tweakers dont care but the users who just buy the phone and wait for official updates do care about that. i mean also official 2.1 hasnt been out all that long either and the hero got it. will the evo see an update? im sure it will. there is no reason it shouldnt.
All of us that will be migrating from the Hero to the Evo have faith in you and the rest of the devs here Toast. You all worked wonders with the Hero and with more capable hardware I am sure you will blow us all away in due time.
fresh and toast are the ****ing gods of cdma android lol, freshtoast for life!!!
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fresh and toast are the ****ing gods of cdma android lol, freshtoast for life!!!
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Totally agree with ya on that, but dammit they better bring Darch with them
Seeing as the EVO is one of HTC's flagship devices I can't see it not getting at least two upgrades. For what its worth, based on the fact that the droid is getting 2.2 soon it appears that either google has started to talk to manufacturers better or this upgrade may simply be easier to roll out (of course the droid is vanilla 2.2, but considering how long 2.1 took it's still good news)
Based on the Evo's specs I can't imagine not getting updates until at least (Mind you I'm picking a random number with no basis) Android 4.0 or something. While HTC is slow with updates, that's what XDA is for
Yeah the only froyo you will get is a port from a dev on here. I heard the EVO will not get the official 2.2 for up to three months. Knowing sprint, much longer than that.
2.2 is coming to EVO
http://www.cooltechzone.com/2010/05/25/htc-confirms-htc-evo-4g-android-2-2-froyo-update/ i hope this help guys...i can't wait to get mines on the 4th....
What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
thats a tough one. I'm a former N1 owner and still miss it. Only reason why i jumped on board with the G2 is because i lost my precious N1 that i had paid the full amount for... Other then that, i'd still hold onto it.
I would hold on to it, especially with the Gingerbread update coming out. Maybe when Gingerbread gets ported to G2, you can make the switch..
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What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
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I personally made the jump, but only because I root my phone.
If you dont root your phone I would stay with the N1 but if you do root you will get just about every goodie that the Nexus One does + better everything so I cant think of a reason to stay to be hones.
Gingerbread will be ported over by some developer here a short time after its released on the Nexus One so I wouldnt worry about that ^_^
I am a former N1 user that made the switch to a G2. I can say personally, it was a great choice.
I loved my N1. However, I wasn't huge into the custom roms and modding. I did my fair share of installing custom roms, kernel mods, etc. However, at the end of the day (i.e. after 3 phone replacements due to faulty hardware over the course of my ownership) I found myself sticking to the stock OTA 2.2 software with a few minor kernel mods like cifs.
My main reasons for switching the to G2 were:
1. I really missed having a hardware keyboard (I went from a G1 to the N1)
2. The G2 hardware was superior to the N1 in all respects
3. HSPA+ is awesome in the Seattle area
4. I was able to sell my N1 on Ebay for $440 which pretty much paid for my G2.
My current new found loves for the G2 are:
1. 1497Mhz overclock kicks BUTT in the PSX emulator!
2. Temproot is so easy and doesn't void my warranty
3. Permroot is now established so if I want to go mod crazy later I can
4. Battery life on my G2 is easily double what I got on the N1
Hopefully all this will shed some light on your question and help you with your decision
Yeah me too i switch from the N1 and i was missing it because the root but now we have full power to this phone it have better hardware but is u call iam happy with my decision
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
The G2 has a PSX emulator?!? OK, I'm already sold...
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App
apollostees said:
What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
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Former N1 owner here. The G2 is BY FAR a superior device, no contest. I would have waffled a couple days ago when we had no perma-root, but now? Absolutely, one hundred percent superior. The G2 will get all the latest software just like the G1 did -- you can run Froyo on a G1 with no problem, remember. It's the universal handset. The only thing it lacks is a front-facing camera, and I for one couldn't care less about that
I currently have and use both the N1 and the G2.
G2:
+ Faster hardware
+ Keyboard
+ Swype
- Bulky
- No CyanogenMod
N1:
+ Gets updates first
+ CyanogenMod
+ Thin
- No keyboard
- No Swype
I find myself carrying the G2 most of the time because I a corporate user, and I have to send a lot of email from the phone. I am much faster with long emails using the physical keyboard.
No offense the nexus one will get gingerbread but that the last update for that phone. If you want a phone that has support on update, beside rooting then go with the g2 it sure will taste Android 3.0 os honeycomb and Android 4.0 os ice cream for 2011.
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No offense the nexus one will get gingerbread but that the last update for that phone. If you want a phone that has support on update, beside rooting then go with the g2 it sure will taste Android 3.0 os honeycomb and Android 4.0 os ice cream for 2011.
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And where did you get that information?
http://www.pocketables.net/2010/11/...d-to-nexus-one-handsets-in-next-few-days.html
I dont have any info on the nexus one not passing beyond 2.3 os.
Trust me the nexus one wont get Android 3.0 os from google.
It will be from xda developer, when google drop the ball on them. It the same way they did with the g1.
Either you root or not and google going to say the samething to users like they did with the g1 in may 2010. Telling the users that they wont support them in 2011.
Why should we trust you? Are you a Google employee? Does one have your ear? You're just making unsubstantiated claims based on your own opinion.
To the person who posted about "no" cyanogen mod.
ROMs are subjective, that doesn't matter unless you disparately need it and still, Cyanogen himself is working on a build for the g2. Plus when the N1 came out, it barely had any ROMs available for it. IT TAKES TIME PEOPLE!
The HW on the G2 is superior, the support will continue. From what it seems, gingerbread will be the last update on the Nexus One before it gets discontinued completely. Sure it was the Official Google phone, and it will always be but its getting old in age, and specs. It's time to move on to bigger and better stuff. I had an N1 and I sold it to buy this G2, and so far it pretty much owns the Nexus One in everything.
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Cyanogen himself is working on a build for the g2.
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Yes, it is likely the G2 will have CM and will have it rather soon. It's not out now, so I was simply stating a fact. The hardware in the G2 is better, but I currently don't notice much a difference in usability between the two. That being said, I prefer the G2, but I am not prepared to write off my N1, yet.
Jay dont believe me i being with android for 2 years .
By now i should know how things work with android updates. All android phones that are google experience phones only get support 1 year from google or manufacture. After that xda developers continue supporting it, to people that interest in them.
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Jay dont believe me i being with android for 2 years .
By now i should know how things work with android updates. All android phones that are google experience phones only get support 1 year from google or manufacture. After that xda developers continue supporting it, to people that interest in them.
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You're not the only person who's been around Android for two years. Or around XDA for two years. I know how things HAVE worked. That's not saying for sure that it WILL work the same in the future.
Yeah jay i wish that nexus one users get the latest operating system from google, because not everyone wants to root their phones. Especially, if their new and they dont know about this. And, will be scare of messing up their phones.
As you might have already read over the internet LG was behind the rumour that minimum hardware spec for Android 2.3 a.k.a Gingerbread is 1GHz. I just read that LG pulls back the claim and considering updating their mobiles to Android 2.3.
This is a good time for us Motorola Defy owners to kindly request Motorola to reconsider their decision and give us Android 2.3 instead in 2011.
I'm sure Motorola people are monitoring this board so let them hear us loud and clear if you would also like your next Defy's release update to be Android 2.3. What do you think?
Thank you.
Yes, yes, yes, ........
I totally agree with you!!
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with the Milestone OC working for the defy the 1ghz req for 2.3 is now no longer a problem
wouldn't it be better to make this thread on the Moto forums?
i agree 2.3 for defy
Jt612 said:
wouldn't it be better to make this thread on the Moto forums?
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Agree with you
If motorola announced officialy 2.3 for defy, they would sell veeeery much more...because many people dont buy nothing of motorola cause they hava supported the milestone, that wont be updated to froyo...
Doesn't 2.3 come out before the Defy even gets 2.2?
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Doesn't 2.3 come out before the Defy even gets 2.2?
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yes 4char?
I couldn't agree with you more!
but.....motorola don't agree with you.....
yyhoney said:
I couldn't agree with you more!
but.....motorola don't agree with you.....
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Hehehe, yeah. Probably true.
Not Motorola's Fault
I would like to point out a rather complex issues in regards of what version of OS the phone gets released with, as well as the future upgrades. Motorola started development of the Defy long before Android 2.2 was released. And my guess when T-Mobile signed off on the phone it was tested by Motorola as well as T-Mobile with Android 2.1 only. From the product delivery point of view the fact that 2.2 came out while Defy was going through T-Mobile test cycle is irrelevant. Neither T-Mobile nor Motorola would've stopped the testing and go back to square one to change the OS to the latest and greatest version. Anybody who says otherwise has no clue on the way the product deliverable works.
Other point is that Motorola already may have a 2.2 or even 2.3 done for Defy but it has to go through the carrier's internal SI&T and QA process and get approved by T-Mobile. And if T-Mobile does not want to get Defy upgraded to 2.2 -- well guess what? No one will see the 2.2 running on Defy officially. Motorola cannot go over T-Mobile's head and release 2.2 to Defy customers without compromising the business relationship with the carrier.
Just my $0.02.
It would be incredible for now to develop a retail firmware wt Froyo. The 2.3 still a dream LOL
Seems like a no-brainer to us - but apparently manufacturers have zero interest in supporting their devices after managing to con people into buying them.
If it weren't for the Defy being so cheap, and ruggedized, I'd have bought an HTC without looking twice.
DEFY will coming soon with 2.2 in China（except for Hong Kong and China Taiwan） So I think 2.3 is possible.
here are the link and pictures
http://bbs.gfan.com/android-360725-1-7.html
sorry i don't know how to post pic here, maybe you should register first before you can see the pictures.
SteveChou said:
DEFY will coming soon with 2.2 in China（except for Hong Kong and China Taiwan） So I think 2.3 is possible.
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and in Q1 2011 in Latin America (Brasil)
SteveChou said:
DEFY will coming soon with 2.2 in China（except for Hong Kong and China Taiwan） So I think 2.3 is possible.
here are the link and pictures
http://bbs.gfan.com/android-360725-1-7.html
sorry i don't know how to post pic here, maybe you should register first before you can see the pictures.
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What about Europe?
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What about Europe?
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Q2 in 2011 official https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
maybe we should support the thread
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/41186
You buy the device with a particular version of Android, the manufacturer doesn't have to give any upgrades, if they do its purely a bonus to the owner. IMO never buy a phone on the hope that it might get upgraded, and don't believe any dates published on the internet about when an upgrade is going to come - even if its from "official" sources.
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I would like to point out a rather complex issues in regards of what version of OS the phone gets released with, as well as the future upgrades. Motorola started development of the Defy long before Android 2.2 was released. And my guess when T-Mobile signed off on the phone it was tested by Motorola as well as T-Mobile with Android 2.1 only. From the product delivery point of view the fact that 2.2 came out while Defy was going through T-Mobile test cycle is irrelevant. Neither T-Mobile nor Motorola would've stopped the testing and go back to square one to change the OS to the latest and greatest version. Anybody who says otherwise has no clue on the way the product deliverable works.
Other point is that Motorola already may have a 2.2 or even 2.3 done for Defy but it has to go through the carrier's internal SI&T and QA process and get approved by T-Mobile. And if T-Mobile does not want to get Defy upgraded to 2.2 -- well guess what? No one will see the 2.2 running on Defy officially. Motorola cannot go over T-Mobile's head and release 2.2 to Defy customers without compromising the business relationship with the carrier.
Just my $0.02.
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I agree with you 100%. However, providing Motorola can fix the speaker phone issue soon enough then Defy would become their best selling handset. Over seventy pages of forum posts (by Germans) shows the level of demands for Defy.
I'm also sure Defy would eventually be their best new selling unlocked handset as well and I hope then Motorola cease the opportunity to do something good. Those with unlocked version of Defy are not at the mercy of any carriers.
Please people, as much as you like Motorola's Defy they also like your money too otherwise how Motorola can pay its directors crazy salaries? We can always encourage Motorola to do something good for us rather than acting as spokesperson of Motorola that nothing good will ever come out of Motorola in relation to its customers. First for everything! : )
is there a beta of android 4.0 for R800x i here the beta for 4.0 is out in beta now but is there one for the R800x?
No. That's why people are still skeptical that Verizon is even working on it
jacklebott said:
No. That's why people are still skeptical that Verizon is even working on it
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dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
Snow755 said:
dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
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Again, no... like I just said people don't know about Verizon's progress
Snow755 said:
dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
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How about you wait until the official release for the R800i/a/at is released, then ask Verizon
i can only hope and pray that verizon has it working...i'm not holding my breath though, figure it will be sometime in may before we hear anything from big red
If I am not mistaken, Verizon has pretty much told us to go get bent. They will not be doing any more updates for the r800x.
XperianceIT said:
If I am not mistaken, Verizon has pretty much told us to go get bent. They will not be doing any more updates for the r800x.
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I was at the Verizon store last night and they had 4 xperia plays on display. Had not been in there in months and was surprised to see they still had it........ not saying that due to this they will make the update. But just saying surprised they still offer it as they obviously couldn't give a sh!t about this device (or any of their devices in general)
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jgregoryj1 said:
I was at the Verizon store last night and they had 4 xperia plays on display. Had not been in there in months and was surprised to see they still had it........ not saying that due to this they will make the update. But just saying surprised they still offer it as they obviously couldn't give a sh!t about this device (or any of their devices in general)
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Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
ryocoon said:
Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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I was implying, maybe didnt word it very well, but I was implying they do not give a monkeys butt about their phones unless its shiny and new. I agree with you. I have been with VZ for a year and I am not happy with them. In another year I will jump ship. Also, I rooted my phone and deleted all the Vcast apps, rebooted and now the android market shows up in the games laumcher instead of the Vcast.... hate vcast
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Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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Ah, my friend, there is nothing bitter about the truth.
No, but I heard that SE is working on a separate release of 4.0 just for R8800x. Will Verizon roll it out? Hell no.
DubleJayJ said:
No, but I heard that SE is working on a separate release of 4.0 just for R8800x. Will Verizon roll it out? Hell no.
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Couldn't they just finish that up and release a compatible *.ftf file for those interested? Instead of just tossing out all that work?
You all do realize that it is still only February, right? Android 4.0 release date was slated for a "POSSIBLE" release sometime in March or April. How about waiting until the end of April and seeing how that goes for the other models of the Play before you start complaining. In fact, in view of Verizon's slowness to adopt new updates, I wouldn't lose hope until the end of 2012.
If you have the luxury of an unlocked bootloader, I suggest using CM7.2 from FreeXperia. They are currently working on porting 4.0 to the R800 family, and it's going well from what I've heard.
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Couldn't they just finish that up and release a compatible *.ftf file for those interested? Instead of just tossing out all that work?
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We are talking about Verizon here. They don't approve anything until it's perfect. Don't see why they couldn't release a beta, and then do updates.
Verizon... and perfect releases? Dude, what have you been smokin'? I've had 4 Androids, a Blackberry and I can't even remember how many "feature phones"... and none of them could EVER qualify as perfect, no matter how many updates they released. The Play has been the closest, and it's not perfect by any means.
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Verizon... and perfect releases? Dude, what have you been smokin'? I've had 4 Androids, a Blackberry and I can't even remember how many "feature phones"... and none of them could EVER qualify as perfect, no matter how many updates they released. The Play has been the closest, and it's not perfect by any means.
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I think he means perfect by "VZW stardards" (bloated and neutered to virtually unusable proportions).
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I've been with Verizon since 2007 & they haven't supported any phone beyond release. They've pissed me off thoroughly with the lack of releases for the Samsung Fascinate (gone due to piss poor performance) & the R800x. I hate this whole dodgy BS that seems to keep perpetuating beyond the normal. Next phone I get will probably be a flagship phone, since I know that it will get huge support from the dev community. This is completely insane & I'm getting pissed off with the general lack of community support (with a few exceptions but not many like the GSM models) for the R800x since VZW has abandoned us as well.
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I've been with Verizon since 2007 & they haven't supported any phone beyond release. They've pissed me off thoroughly with the lack of releases for the Samsung Fascinate (gone due to piss poor performance) & the R800x. I hate this whole dodgy BS that seems to keep perpetuating beyond the normal. Next phone I get will probably be a flagship phone, since I know that it will get huge support from the dev community. This is completely insane & I'm getting pissed off with the general lack of community support (with a few exceptions but not many like the GSM models) for the R800x since VZW has abandoned us as well.
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Remember that the biggest reason that this phone didn't sell well was the lack of support in the first place. That means that there are fewer of our phones in use than a lot of others, and we have few dev's because of that.