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Tired of locked bootloader, call me a sellout.

I have decided that I can not deal with the locked bootloader on this tablet and have chosen to sell it (got more then I paid). The A100 is a wonderful tablet and has great potential but the lack of developers and dead end bootloader is a showstopper.
I am waiting for another brand 7 inch tablet to arrive by Fedex later this week. It has the same basic specs as the a100. CWM is already available and there is a small amount development going on. But it is new on the market. No ICS yet. There is some talk in getting CM9 on it.
It is really disappointing that the 10 inch tabs are getting all of the glory, I really think the 7 inch is the best size for carrying with you.

see yah!
The locked bootloader isn't a big deal for me because the tab already does everything I want it to do. The only thing that could make this tab already better than what it is would be the unlocked bootloader that way we could look at different rom options (but to be honest the rom that's currently there isn't that bad at all). Granted it would be nice to overclock, but its already pretty fast and I haven't really had any hiccups while using it since I released the custom build.prop (except for using hdmi which I'm working on).
I think eventually we'll get some sort of work around for the bootloader working, its just a matter of time. I'm definitely not going to drop this tab though just because we don't have it figured out yet.
I do wish there was someone other than myself that's taken an interest in this tab that knows their way around custom recoverys and bootloaders since that's not one of my strong points but at least I'm trying to help.
I wont call you a sell out, but I will wish you good luck with your new device and happy modding!
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Which tablet did you get? I'm starting to look into getting a new one and giving this one to my wife.
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Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?

ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I agree, but everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I personally don't care how bad you thought it sucked and what you're replacing it with. If you don't have anything useful to contribute don't bother posting. For me these "goodbye" types of posts fall into that catagory.
That's just my own opinion though.
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ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I actually like my A100 and plan to hold on to it for a while.
Is that okay with everyone?
(Of course if someone wanted to pay me enough for it so I could buy the next, better thing....)

to OP good luck with your future endeavors as I am sure you will have new things you will complain about your new device seeing how you would post something like this.
And crossix thank you for all your hard work. I really wish I knew more than I could to help you and others out but I try to put in where I can. We need more devs like you around here.
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ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I think its a simple way of letting their frustrations go. I was just doing some research on this tab as I'd like to have a nice little 7 inch carry along but not so sure about it with the locked b/l and bad viewing angles.
Is the screen as bad as it looks in videos? From what I've seen and read this thing runs very smooth and lagfree, am I right about that?
Thanks for any info.
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donharden2002 said:
I think its a simple way of letting their frustrations go. I was just doing some research on this tab as I'd like to have a nice little 7 inch carry along but not so sure about it with the locked b/l and bad viewing angles.
Is the screen as bad as it looks in videos? From what I've seen and read this thing runs very smooth and lagfree, am I right about that?
Thanks for any info.
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Theres really only 1 bad angle which is about 120 degrees towards the bottom. It gets darker. So jus flip it 180 in landscape and youre good. Left, right and top angle are great IMO. As far as speed. Here's one I posted....you be the judge....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99O4-gmQ6E&list=UUHqepxR6_suYYKySqKxymDg&index=3&feature=plcp

The only lag I've ever experienced was when I was on the early 3.2 builds. After upgrading to the latest 3.2.1and running the custom build.prop, the only bit of lag I've seen is playing 720p video in flash and 720p software mode video on hdmi out. But my atrix had the same issue, so I think its just a limitation of stock tegra2. I resovled it on my atrix by overclocking, so if we ever find a method of running a custom kernel I think it'll be resolved.
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I have never experienced any lag whatsoever in the a100. also, i have heard so much about the viewing angles, and as aznmode said, there is only one slightly off angle and there is no reason whatsoever to have to be looking in that angle unless you just choose to do so. I have several tabs and i use the acer more than the others combined because it does everything that is needed and it is very easy to carry around. Also I have hear reviewers complain about the battery, however i can useit on and off all day long without charging and also it charges twice as fast as most. i wouldn't hesitate to purchase this tab again, i would just love to see some more development. The rom itself is very fast and extremely stable, the only real complaint that i have about the tab is that i would like to see usb host mode working. i also wanted to say thanks to crossix and all of the other devs that have put alot of work into it so far!

crossix said:
After upgrading to the latest 3.2.1and running the custom build.prop, the only bit of lag I've seen is playing 720p video in flash and 720p software mode video on hdmi out.
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What this custom build.prop is effecting on? Better performances? better battery life?
i'm on 2007.04 Gen1...

spino1970 said:
What this custom build.prop is effecting on? Better performances? better battery life?
i'm on 2007.04 Gen1...
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All of the above, you can check it out over in the dev section
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crossix said:
All of the above, you can check it out over in the dev section
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Thanx...i've installed...
Now i just need to find mode to free memory for -finally, now it is checked like an a500, compatible device- install the TinTinHD app i bought few weeks ago: it need 1.5 gb of data

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Thanx...i've installed...
Now i just need to find mode to free memory for -finally, now it is checked like an a500, compatible device- install the TinTinHD app i bought few weeks ago: it need 1.5 gb of data
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If you have a big microsd card, you could swap it with the internal memory (I really need to add direct links to these things to my signature..).

Just out of curiosity has anyone contracted koush to see if he can unlock the bootloader. On his website he says that he just needs the tablet for about a week. I know that you guys have been working on it and have made some bits of progress, but maybe a new set of eyes might be helpful. I do support for two as we got the kids some for Christmas but I need to leave them stock so they can't get into and erase stuff they need for them to run.
Don't want to step on anyone's toes or if this has already been attempted just disregard.
Thanks to the developers for their work.

crossix said:
see yah!
The locked bootloader isn't a big deal for me because the tab already does everything I want it to do. The only thing that could make this tab already better than what it is would be the unlocked bootloader that way we could look at different rom options (but to be honest the rom that's currently there isn't that bad at all). Granted it would be nice to overclock, but its already pretty fast and I haven't really had any hiccups while using it since I released the custom build.prop (except for using hdmi which I'm working on).
I think eventually we'll get some sort of work around for the bootloader working, its just a matter of time. I'm definitely not going to drop this tab though just because we don't have it figured out yet.
I do wish there was someone other than myself that's taken an interest in this tab that knows their way around custom recoverys and bootloaders since that's not one of my strong points but at least I'm trying to help.
I wont call you a sell out, but I will wish you good luck with your new device and happy modding!
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I started this thread when I was really pissed off at the A100. Between my touch screen failing and the many hours spent to get a working tun.ko on it. Due to the encrypted kernel I could not even load a kernel module.
To explain I need tun.ko and advanced routing so I can connect to a Cisco VPN for work. While waiting for my tab to be returned from service went to Best Buy and picked up the Samsung Galaxy tab plus, installed VPNC and it worked with no problem.
The A100 is a really nice device and for 90% of people it is perfect. I actually preferred the styling compared to the Samsung slab, but VPN is the reason I wanted a tab in the first place.
I wish you all good luck with cracking the bootloader.

I plan on keeping my a100 at least until I can afford a tegra 3 tab.
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painter_ said:
I started this thread when I was really pissed off at the A100. Between my touch screen failing and the many hours spent to get a working tun.ko on it. Due to the encrypted kernel I could not even load a kernel module.
To explain I need tun.ko and advanced routing so I can connect to a Cisco VPN for work. While waiting for my tab to be returned from service went to Best Buy and picked up the Samsung Galaxy tab plus, installed VPNC and it worked with no problem.
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I use remote desktop with a virtual pc setup to connect up to my works Cisco VPN and it works really well, especially when I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected up to the tab (I also use this same setup with my atrix), it works great!
I also use this same setup for one of my clients Nortel Networks VPN which doesn't work at all on android nativity. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the a100 but for the price its hard to find fault with it.

crossix said:
I use remote desktop with a virtual pc setup to connect up to my works Cisco VPN and it works really well, especially when I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected up to the tab (I also use this same setup with my atrix), it works great!
I also use this same setup for one of my clients Nortel Networks VPN which doesn't work at all on android nativity. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the a100 but for the price its hard to find fault with it.
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Agreed the price is right.
The virtual PC solution is not an option since I not only need it for RDP and VNC but also to sync my contacts, email and calendar. I was connecting to my home VPN and then jumping through to work but I need my contacts and email in somewhat a real time solution.

My Nexus S got stolen. Do I get a S3?

Hi Guys,
My trusty nexus s running Codename Android got stolen yesterday and I'm pretty bummed out. I had just uninstalled the tracker to test the batter life so it's pretty much gone!
The silver lining is that I have a reason to get a S3 now, but do I?
I am excited that CNA is testing a beta for the S3 which is cool, my favorite ROM.
From what I'm reading here, I guess the biggest concerns I have for the S3 are the lack of mass storage support? Is this true or does it use MTP like the tablets? also the size, it it going to crowd my pocket in my not so baggy jeans?
thanks for your thoughts on this.

It uses MTP, and it'll fit in your pockets just fine.
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Dude get it. The size is perfect and you will not regret it at all. I also thought it would be to big but no its perfect. Very nice for browsing too. Older phones I would never browse xda I would use my computer but now I relarely use my laptop. The performance of this phone still blowsme aaway. It bangs on my galaxy nexus. Development here is getting better and better. Plus we had about 8 leaks (stock jb) in the past month.....camera is a whole other animal. This phone is a beast

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Hi Guys,
My trusty nexus s running Codename Android got stolen yesterday and I'm pretty bummed out. I had just uninstalled the tracker to test the batter life so it's pretty much gone!
The silver lining is that I have a reason to get a S3 now, but do I?
I am excited that CNA is testing a beta for the S3 which is cool, my favorite ROM.
From what I'm reading here, I guess the biggest concerns I have for the S3 are the lack of mass storage support? Is this true or does it use MTP like the tablets? also the size, it it going to crowd my pocket in my not so baggy jeans?
thanks for your thoughts on this.
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I'm a small dude and I wear "skinny jeans" (I don't go to the extreme of my balls bulging because my pants are so tight, but they are slim fit) and it fits perfectly fine in all my pants. On that note, I NEVER (even when I use to wear Jnco Jeans back in the '90s LOL) put anything in the same pocket as my phone, so, I don't know how to say if it does or doesn't crowd my pocket since I don't put anything else in there.
The phone is a comfortable fit in my pocket though.

It uses MTP but at least it has MicroSD. So for big files, I just take out the MicroSD and copy stuff over.

You can install this tracker remotely if you would like to find out where your Nexus is.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lookout.labs.planb&hl=en

stir fry a lot said:
You can install this tracker remotely if you would like to find out where your Nexus is.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lookout.labs.planb&hl=en
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Ya I just discovered this in another thread. Problem is Tmobile already disabled the SIM that's in the phone and also I changed my google passwords.
Will this still work? I did the remote install but haven't heard from the phone yet.

reapur said:
Ya I just discovered this in another thread. Problem is Tmobile already disabled the SIM that's in the phone and also I changed my google passwords.
Will this still work? I did the remote install but haven't heard from the phone yet.
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I think it needs the phones sim to be in it or on.....also when u do get your new phone or get this one back. Install Cerberus....it is a great app and will save u from this ****. U would have screenshots of the person sent to your emails , tracking all kinds of features it also hides the app so thief can't see it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus..
I think it is the best one out there

Okay. Picked up a new S3 from Tmobile today, they had a good deal going.
I'm a little bit freaked out by the flash counter thing (I've only ever had nexus phones) so I rooted it with the UVALH2 and seems good, now I get to debloat a little bit.
Looking for a way now to remove the annoying tmobile sounds on start and reboot, why do they have to be so abnoxious?
thanks for your recommendations, I really do like this phone.

[Q] Newbie: Mods & ROMs for Optimus G Pro?

I don't see a page for Rooting this phone. Is it because it is so new, or because not many people are interested in the phone?
Also, my only gripe about the phone is the sound, which is low. If a ROM does come out, is that the kind of thing that may be tweaked?
I used to jail break my old iphone (when it was not so easy) and look forward to having a lot of fun on Android. The Optimus seems perfect for me, and maybe the smoothest and fastest phone around, but I hate 2 year contracts. The alternative right now is to get the Nexus 4 and wait a while for more large phones to come out (around the corner), then bite the bullet and sign a contract. Sound like a sound plan?
Another newbie question: how well do these phones (Androids) hold their value? I wonder if many people simply buy phones at retail (full value) and sell them on Ebay nine months or a year later, then go and buy the latest, greatest again? Like many, as soon as I get a new phone, I put screen protectors on the front and back, then put the phone in a case or bumper, so it remains like new. (ATT is buying back old iphone 4S's for $200).
Here's something I can contribute: there is a new iPad like cover for the Optimus G Pro. It is like the iPad cover in that it has a magnet and the phone switches off when closed, and on when open. In Korea now and headed this way. Google it. I think it is a big plus for this phone, now if they would only fix the low volume.

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I don't see a page for Rooting this phone. Is it because it is so new, or because not many people are interested in the phone?
Here's something I can contribute: there is a new iPad like cover for the Optimus G Pro. It is like the iPad cover in that it has a magnet and the phone switches off when closed, and on when open. In Korea now and headed this way. Google it. I think it is a big plus for this phone, now if they would only fix the low volume.
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Um, we do actually have a thread on rooting. As for not having any ROMs, yet, that's because we still have a locked bootloader, but progress is being made.
Not sure what the mention of the quick cover was about, but we have them in the US and they work very well.

mrfeuss said:
Um, we do actually have a thread on rooting. As for not having any ROMs, yet, that's because we still have a locked bootloader, but progress is being made.
Not sure what the mention of the quick cover was about, but we have them in the US and they work very well.
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If you could point me in the right direction of where I could purchase (in USA) the cover I referred to above (for the OGP with magnet that turns the phone on and off when cover opened and closed), I would appreciate it. Thanks, and good luck!!

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If you could point me in the right direction of where I could purchase (in USA) the cover I referred to above (for the OGP with magnet that turns the phone on and off when cover opened and closed), I would appreciate it. Thanks, and good luck!!
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You can get them from Att online or at the store and I saw 3on eBay ranging from 15 to 49.00.
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Cover
What you are looking for is the lg CCF 210 folio case. There are also some knock off versions on ebay. They all look super sweet.

Just got mine! :)

I just got C today. 64 GB. Doing the update as I type this.
So what next? With all the working bugs I'm seeing about N, and multi screen not being that HUUUGE of priority right now (maybe it will be once I dive into the thing.) I probably wont do the OS change to N until it it pushed.
With that said, what are some cool tips, tricks, apps, gadgets, and goodies you guys are using and find freaking awesome for this thing?!? I will be getting the C's metal keyboard eventually, but I just wanted to know some suggestions and things to try that you love.
Also, can you use the "debloater" tool to disable apps you don't want running like I do on my LG G4?
Thanks guys!

Nobody would like to chime in? :/

ghostbustaj said:
I just got C today. 64 GB. Doing the update as I type this.
So what next? With all the working bugs I'm seeing about N, and multi screen not being that HUUUGE of priority right now (maybe it will be once I dive into the thing.) I probably wont do the OS change to N until it it pushed.
With that said, what are some cool tips, tricks, apps, gadgets, and goodies you guys are using and find freaking awesome for this thing?!? I will be getting the C's metal keyboard eventually, but I just wanted to know some suggestions and things to try that you love.
Also, can you use the "debloater" tool to disable apps you don't want running like I do on my LG G4?
Thanks guys!
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Congratulations! I just got mine last week, and I get another one today because the one from last week had some issues.
Hmm well you can buy a stylus for it, so that you can write or draw on the thing. Or a smartcover a la ipad.
I'm still thorn about screen protector tough. Hate them.
Did you use the Dev discount?

parental92 said:
Congratulations! I just got mine last week, and I get another one today because the one from last week had some issues.
Hmm well you can buy a stylus for it, so that you can write or draw on the thing. Or a smartcover a la ipad.
I'm still thorn about screen protector tough. Hate them.
Did you use the Dev discount?
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Thanks for responding.
I did use the Dev discount. :good:
And the couple of days I've had it; absolutely zero issues that anyone mentioned in the past I've read about.
I do have a basic stylus (a dumb one with a rubber end I used for my G4.) I don't think I'm gonna be doing any drawing on it, but if a smart stylus would add some functionally to it then I might consider.
A smartCOVER you say? Whats the benefits of one? Also, any cool Apps you can recommend?

ghostbustaj said:
Thanks for responding.
I did use the Dev discount. :good:
And the couple of days I've had it; absolutely zero issues that anyone mentioned in the past I've read about.
I do have a basic stylus (a dumb one with a rubber end I used for my G4.) I don't think I'm gonna be doing any drawing on it, but if a smart stylus would add some functionally to it then I might consider.
A smartCOVER you say? Whats the benefits of one? Also, any cool Apps you can recommend?
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it turns off the screen if you close it lol. standard stuff.
hmm IDK really, couple of games are on it , works well. kitchen stories for cooking (im a student , kinda need this kind of things).

What features are you going to miss, love or are concerned with when buying the Fold?

Without ever seeing the Fold in person and actually handling it I going to miss a few features based on the Specs I've read and videos I've watched. Here's my list.
Features I might miss:
1. Larger front facing screen...my caveat here is if the screen was larger it would probably be way too skinny anyway and would look really weird because of the dimensions..
2. Iris Scanner - love this feature on my N9. I know it's already gone on the S10's but it just works so well.
3. Update :MST for Samsung Pay is Probable for all phones. From what I've read, we're only getting NFC at least on AT&T but their website could be wrong since Samsung says it will have MST & AND NFC. That is always the beauty of Samsung Pay over various other Pay technologies. Worked just about everywhere for me.
4. MicroSD slot. OK, I might not use up the 512GB but do love the MicroSSD option which is great to easily move files and backups around., etc.
5. Waterproofing. I'm guessing that the Hinge is the problem and it would be difficult to waterproof the phone because of it.
6. The Fold would have been perfect if it had an S-Pen...with a selfie camera in the S-Pen (LOL!).
Features I'm not happy with (but I'll still live with):
1. That damn notch with a bezel on the big/inside screen. Almost made me bypass the pre-order. If that screen wasn't so large, I definitely would not have bought the phone. I swore I'd never buy a phone with a notch...Oh well.
2. (I know that this should probably be number one) The Crease! It remains to be seen but every video displays the crease in some manner. I find it funny that any article that I've read where Samsung has replied states that the crease is only seen in these **pre-production** models and the crease will not be seen on the final Fold versions. I'm not holding my breath on this one! So many reviewers stated that looking at the screen straight on and/or with a different wallpaper that the crease is barely visible or not visible at all. Now looking at the screen off to the side, the crease can be seen.
3. The batteries. They should have installed greater mAh capacity batteries. C'mon Samsung! You're using 2 separate batteries, give us more juice. You know we'll be on the 7.3" screen constantly!
4. I'm not really mad that they removed the headphone jack. I love options but 99% of the time I'm using BT headphones anyway.
5. The cameras. OK, we have LOTS of them! But for almost $2000.00 these cameras should have been even better than the S10/S10+'s cams. This Fold phone is Super Special and should have had a little bit more (can you say 10 X optical zoom? Might not have fit though).
6. I am still not fond of the Bixby functionality in comparison to Google Assistant. The Bixby routines are probably the best part of Bixby. I'll probably bypass Bixby.
7. Bixby button also being the fingerprint scanner. I'll lose my mind if I continually activate the Bixby button instead of unlocking my phone. That would make me crazy so I would use other software to disable Bixby altogether.
8. Many early articles on the Fold stated that Samsung would give us a free year of Samsung Premium Care+. I'm hoping that when I receive the Fold, I'll be surprised and find documentation to sign up for our free year. I'm probably dreaming...
9. They should have offered more for Trade-ins. Only up to $300.00 where it was $550.00 for the S10 possible trade-in values. (I'm kind of glad though since I may just need to keep my Note 9 around for awhile).
Unknowns:
1. It remains to be seen if the developers will build apps to work with continuity and sizing, etc. If that isn't done then we might own a $2000.00 boring paperweight. I need my Kustom suite of Apps and if they don't work, the Fold will be almost useless to me).
2. Will the Fold just be too long to easily fit in my pocket. I never put any phones in a back pocket but occasionally put in front pocket. Most of the time it's in a zippered pocket in a jacket or purse or backpack or small waist pack. I'm really not too worried..yet! Hahaha!
3. We definitely need a variety of cases. I'm sure they'll come. The interest in the Fold has seemingly surpassed Samsung's expectations. Samsung kept the final Fold design under wraps so long that I think that's one of the reasons the case makers haven't delivered yet (or they thought that the Fold wouldn't have much interest). I need a super protective Clear Case. I want to show off that Martian green with Gold Hinge!! (and I want to look at it too).
Final observations:
With all of the unknowns and possible negatives, don't get me wrong. I want the Fold!
I love being an early adopter and have saved up for this thing. I've been following Samsung over the years and drooling at all of their foldable prototypes.
With Samsung's track record on gorgeous displays, I know I'll love the tablet screen. I think that the small front screen is not a deal breaker because I liken it to my Lock/AOD screen where I glance at information then move on to the larger screen. It will be just one more step to fully open the Fold. Not inconvenient when you know what's coming! A huge, beautiful screen.
The COOL factor for the Fold is priceless! I am so anxious to get it and I know the feeling will continue as others spot the phone and want to check it out.
If the Fold ends up being a fantastic phone for me, then I'll be selling off a few other Tablets I have as well as my N9.
This is going to be Big! Cannot wait to play!
What do you guys think?

I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?

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I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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Based off of the limited amount of people that will buy and have this device probably not, but I could be wrong ?

I'll miss the spen even though I don't use it that often, but the main thing I'll miss about that functionality is being able to capture video as an animated gif (I don't know if this exists on the S series as I've only used Notes as far as Samsung's go). I'll probably use my old Wacom dumb capacitive stylus that's been sitting a drawer for a few years for the simple diagrams I draw in meetings using One note. It did the trick when I used to use an iPad all of the time.
The small screen might get irritating if I want to tap out a message as I already find it difficult using something as small as an iPhone SE. Although with keyboard customisation maybe bigger keys can make that easier.
The notch doesn't really bother me. A hole punch would be equally as distracting as a notch to me on a regular phone, but in a screen that big I can't see it being a problem.
I'm definitely changing the scaling and fitting more on that display. Apparently that's how you get many apps to use tablet mode rather than a big phone layout, so I'll be really happy if that's actually true. But I'd set my mind on getting one even before I heard about that so I won't mind if it doesn't work on everything.
I haven't seen whether Dex is available in tablet mode as it is on the larger Samsung tablets. That would be a killer app for me. I know we can use up to 3 apps, but it's not the same as having a few windows layered and tapping between them, especially if you're copying and pasting between a few documents and you want that bigger layout on each to see text placement properly. Maybe someone will manage to extract and develop an apk that doesn't require root for that.
With regards to the above, I used to have a Toshiba PDA that ran Windows Mobile and with it's 800x600 display you could change the screen scaling and achieve a similar effect. It was pretty great.
The thing I'm mainly looking forward to is reducing my travel kit from a phone, tablet, and kindle to just one device. Ok maybe not just one device, I'll have room for my Switch more often now. Airport security love giving my bags an extra search due to all of the gadgets I end up carrying, and hopefully this will mean I just sail through like most other people.
And while it may be an elitist prick move, I want people to notice it. Most friends and colleagues know I'm a tech geek, but nobody notices the tech anymore, as all of the phones and tablets look so similar. They don't realise it's something new or cool and don't ask. Plus, nowadays all it involves is showing off something a bit faster with more storage and a better camera. Nothing has done anything new for years now. This brings back that wow factor when new phones had something brand new and sparks conversation about the future again.

The US devices will have locked bootloaders just like the other US Samsung devices. Unless I've missed it there is no word on international devices yet. If you're like me and root is a necessity you might want to consider waiting until the situation is sorted out.
Edit... One other thing I ran into today in regards to a potential S-pen is that a reviewer was opining the screen was too soft to support writing. That was a stated opinion not a fact from Samsung. So a guess but not an unreasonable one; It isn't hard to imagine the screen not being able to hold up to a pen.

Here’s an important notice for current and future Galaxy Fold owners
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/04/1...portant-notice/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
SAMSUNG GALAXY FOLD ??????

Where did you see the info regarding Samsung pay? Can't find any info about that

nique0201 said:
Where did you see the info regarding Samsung pay? Can't find any info about that
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The specs on Samsung.com for the Fold only show NFC for Samsung Pay. They did the same thing on the Galaxy Watches.
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A.Priori said:
I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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Doubtful on AT&T or T-MO devices... You know it's always that locked bootloader thing in US phones.
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AlanJC said:
I'll miss the spen even though I don't use it that often, but the main thing I'll miss about that functionality is being able to capture video as an animated gif (I don't know if this exists on the S series as I've only used Notes as far as Samsung's go). I'll probably use my old Wacom dumb capacitive stylus that's been sitting a drawer for a few years for the simple diagrams I draw in meetings using One note. It did the trick when I used to use an iPad all of the time.
The small screen might get irritating if I want to tap out a message as I already find it difficult using something as small as an iPhone SE. Although with keyboard customisation maybe bigger keys can make that easier.
The notch doesn't really bother me. A hole punch would be equally as distracting as a notch to me on a regular phone, but in a screen that big I can't see it being a problem.
I'm definitely changing the scaling and fitting more on that display. Apparently that's how you get many apps to use tablet mode rather than a big phone layout, so I'll be really happy if that's actually true. But I'd set my mind on getting one even before I heard about that so I won't mind if it doesn't work on everything.
I haven't seen whether Dex is available in tablet mode
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Looks like we'll still be able to create a gif from a video (you could still have done it on the S9's too). Here's a tutorial for the S10's so I'm sure the Fold will be able to make one too:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How...or-S10e-without-downloading-any-apps_id115228
Also, it is Dex ready/capable.
Great points you've made in your response! Thx!
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burrzoo said:
The specs on Samsung.com for the Fold only show NFC for Samsung Pay. They did the same thing on the Galaxy Watches.
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It has MST, confirmed.
"Credit & debit cards: supports MST and/or NFC"
Source: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-fold/specs/

Bjray said:
It has MST, confirmed.
"Credit & debit cards: supports MST and/or NFC"
Source: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-fold/specs/
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This would be great! I'm wondering if it's for Non US Folds. I'm hoping it's for everyone. I wish I had the eSim/nano sim option but not with my carrier (AT&T).
MST not listed in their specs but hopefully it's just incorrect. Thank you for the clarification.
https://www.att.com/buy/phones/samsung-galaxy-fold-512gb-space-silver.html
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good that was almost a dealbreaker!!! no MST , because NFC hasnt really caught on the way they promised 6 years ago... at least not in places i frequent.

A.Priori said:
I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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You're kidding, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxkAVnl6RVw&list=PLLjWNJiWtHZV-rqGklsgrjoK1ssOJfvrE&index=6

I'm out of here. I'm a rooter and right now I'm now feeling the love with dropping 2k on this device and then killing the warranty. This isn't a complaint per se, it's just not the right tree to be sniffing around for those like me that will most def flog the thing. I do hope all who buy in enjoy the bejesus out of themselves. Good luck gents.

nique0201 said:
good that was almost a dealbreaker!!! no MST , because NFC hasnt really caught on the way they promised 6 years ago... at least not in places i frequent.
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I was just reading AT&T version of the manual & no mention of MST, only NFC. THAT would be stupid to me & I'd really miss it.
http://downloadcenter.samsung....d_EN_UM_P_9.0_040919_FINAL.pdf
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