I started a thread elsewhere and have been advised to put it here for a speedy resolution...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9785290#post9785290
In essence, I have an HTC TP2 running WM 6.5 Pro supplied by Vodafone here in the UK. I have an 8Gb SD card (unknown manufacturer) formatted to FAT32. On the card I store all my WM apps, plus all my folders with files, docs, pictures, video, etc.
On the card I installed Ubuntu and XDAndroid via the 2.2 Froyo.112210 cab
The Ubuntu worked fine, The XDANDROID looked great and on the face of it worked fine too, until I tried to set the ringtone. I realised I was missing calls and notifications because it was on Silent, and I could not change it. I tried to open my music and videos, but the apps said i had no SD card. I checked memory in Settings and it stated that the SD card was mounted, but gave no size info and would not let me Unmount it. I then tried to search media on the card and had no joy. In essence it did not seem to recognise the card.
I then bought another SD card, this time a Kingston 16Gb already formatted to FAT32, added all the files and docs, it too would not work. I have since been round and round the loop of deleting both SD cards, reformatting to FAT32 using both my default Ubuntu app on my Laptop, gParted via my Laptop and the phone. None work.
I now am still on WM 6.5 because I can not use the phone.
I have searched Google and the Forum, and other than formatting to FAT32 I have seen nothing that can help, but that may just be my searching skills.
It has been suggested that some makes of card do not work also.
Other things that I have found a problem:
The keyboard does not light up when I use it, which is impossible poorly lit rooms, etc
Can't find a way of viewing folders, I'm sure there will be more once I get it going...
Any help, please!!!!!
Format with the HP tool. Full format.
Keyboard backlight doesn't work in Linux/Android yet. We're working on it...
Can't find a way of viewing folders...? Astro, OI File Manager...? There's a ton.
My experience is SD Card cannot be used if you installed xdaandroid with CAB version. I tried for the whole night, formatted my card with many different tools - without luck.
At last, I downloaded the zip one, and finally, it works!
Hope it also works with your
hadobac said:
My experience is SD Card cannot be used if you installed xdaandroid with CAB version. I tried for the whole night, formatted my card with many different tools - without luck.
At last, I downloaded the zip one, and finally, it works!
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Thanks for the tip. I'll try that. It makes more sense. I can't believe taht formatting using different tools can work as a FAT 32 is a FAT 32.... if not then what is it.
Can you tell me. Did you download to laptop, extract and then just copy the files on to your TP2 SD card....?
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Can you tell me. Did you download to laptop, extract and then just copy the files on to your TP2 SD card....?
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Either way, download extract & copy or just download & extract straight to your SD.
I don't think anyone should ever use the CAB install. The only benefit you get is a shortcut, which can easily be created manually.
The FIX
hadobac said:
My experience is SD Card cannot be used if you installed xdaandroid with CAB version. I tried for the whole night, formatted my card with many different tools - without luck.
At last, I downloaded the RAR one, and finally, it works!
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BRILLIANT - WELL DONE... Yes, this is the answer. Not reformatting. God knows how many times I tried and the number of different tools and processes of formatting. None worked.
This worked first go.
I am now just going through the device to fine tune and no doubt will find any glitches or queries.
So, short cut for all readers.
DO NOT USE THE CAB, Use the compresses RAR file.
http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.112210.rar
Save on the desktop of your Laptop/PC.
Connect device to the Laptop/PC
Extract to the root of the SD Card
Take out the Programs folder from the extracted folder on the SD Card and put in the Root of the SD Card - this may clash with the WM Programs folder, but I use Ubuntu so it allowed me to merge the two nicely.
Then off you go, boot up....
jonners59
I'm happy to hear that you had your problem solved.
AFAIK this bug just happenned with the latest version - the Froyo FRX03. I'm using Ubuntu as well, and the after I bought my new Memory stick, I formatted it with the Ubuntu Disk Utility, and the Cab - the Eclair - worked very well...
But like arrrghhh have said, yea people shouldn't use the CAB install. You gotta spend time installing it (and it usually takes quite long), and just to have its shortcut...
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jonners59
I'm happy to hear that you had your problem solved.
AFAIK this bug just happenned with the latest version - the Froyo FRX03. I'm using Ubuntu as well, and the after I bought my new Memory stick, I formatted it with the Ubuntu Disk Utility, and the Cab - the Eclair - worked very well...
But like arrrghhh have said, yea people shouldn't use the CAB install. You gotta spend time installing it (and it usually takes quite long), and just to have its shortcut...
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Maybe, all I know is that I had trouble getting any releases to work, and spent ages searching for fixes, which is where I first encountered other's issues with the same problem. All suggested a reformat. And the only fix that worked was the zip Maybe if I had used the zip before I would not have had all this trouble.
Now that it works, I need to look at all the other little issues.
Light on all the time
fast use of the battery
Seems to lock up sometimes requiring soft restart
No Blue tooth
No camera
and I can't see my music or pictures, though i can see all those for the various apps!
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Maybe, all I know is that I had trouble getting any releases to work, and spent ages searching for fixes, which is where I first encountered other's issues with the same problem. All suggested a reformat. And the only fix that worked was the zip Maybe if I had used the zip before I would not have had all this trouble.
Now that it works, I need to look at all the other little issues.
Light on all the time
fast use of the battery
Seems to lock up sometimes requiring soft restart
No Blue tooth
No camera
and I can't see my music or pictures, though i can see all those for the various apps!
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You really need to at least read the FAQ dude, c'mon these are BASIC questions/problems.
I did tell you to reformat, I didn't think the cab was the issue honestly - I don't ever use the cab, as I think it's quite unnecessary... But others use it just fine AFAIK.
this worked for me...thanks
i installed the cab first and i also had this same problem with the sd card. i tried the zip file and that didn't work either. Then i used the hp tool that is mentioned in post #2 to format the sd and then tried the zip file again and BINGO. So i think a combination of formatting the sd and using the zip file works best. thanks alot guys for all the help. it sucked not having any sound
madhopps said:
i installed the cab first and i also had this same problem with the sd card. i tried the zip file and that didn't work either. Then i used the hp tool that is mentioned in post #2 to format the sd and then tried the zip file again and BINGO. So i think a combination of formatting the sd and using the zip file works best. thanks alot guys for all the help. it sucked not having any sound
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Could be, but also suggested are gParted, which is a good format tool. The HP is for Windows machines. I use Ubuntu which is Linux, just like Android, so when I installed, it did so within WINE, which is Windows tool for running their apps on Linux. It's not perfect and in this case it could not find the USB ports. No worries though as I think the zip method was the ultimate solution for my senario
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You really need to at least read the FAQ dude, c'mon these are BASIC questions/problems.
I did tell you to reformat, I didn't think the cab was the issue honestly - I don't ever use the cab, as I think it's quite unnecessary... But others use it just fine AFAIK.
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A little unkind arrrrghhh... The issues I raised in this reply were immediately after having managed to get the device working. And yes, I know some are in FAQ, though no solutions to most and many are not.
The power issue and the no ringtones options are not. The power has meant that I can not use Android and have gone back to WM for now. I used 2 batteries yesterday and ran out of charged batteries by 6PM! It should last over 24hrs per battery.
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A little unkind arrrrghhh... The issues I raised in this reply were immediately after having managed to get the device working. And yes, I know some are in FAQ, though no solutions to most and many are not.
The power issue and the no ringtones options are not. The power has meant that I can not use Android and have gone back to WM for now. I used 2 batteries yesterday and ran out of charged batteries by 6PM! It should last over 24hrs per battery.
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Well I'm glad you have such strong opinions about how this project should be. Keep making demands, it's very helpful...
Anyhoo, this project is for TESTING PURPOSES, it's not ready for prime-time yet. Have fun with it, but don't think it's meant to replace WinMo.
Also, all of your questions have been answered before - maybe they're not all in the FAQ, but most are. However, every single question you've asked has been asked before - use search!
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Well I'm glad you have such strong opinions about how this project should be. Keep making demands, it's very helpful...
Anyhoo, this project is for TESTING PURPOSES, it's not ready for prime-time yet. Have fun with it, but don't think it's meant to replace WinMo.
Also, all of your questions have been answered before - maybe they're not all in the FAQ, but most are. However, every single question you've asked has been asked before - use search!
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Oh, yes, sorry, I am a bit forceful.
Actually, the device in Android has completely died. I have a blank black screen. Sad moment. I like the look, the feel and the way this project works, but it has a long way to go before it is a serious contender, sadly.
UPDATE: I plugged it in to my Laptop to effectively start over, and suddenly the PIN window appeared... We are back on. The ways and wonders of SW.
sd card
my girlfriend and i both have the same phone. I have a PNY 16GB sd card in my phone and she has a SanDisk 8Gb. I dont have the problem with android not reading my sd card and i used the cab file, but android wont read her sd card. did everything the same on both phones, so i am kinda thinking it is the maker of the sd cards.
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my girlfriend and i both have the same phone. I have a PNY 16GB sd card in my phone and she has a SanDisk 8Gb. I dont have the problem with android not reading my sd card and i used the cab file, but android wont read her sd card. did everything the same on both phones, so i am kinda thinking it is the maker of the sd cards.
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I have heard this before, which is why I mention my card type in the thread
phone works fine, winmob works fine, if i use 4gb sdcard, android works, BUT
it android does not recognise sdcard(inside android),
if i use a 2gb sd card, inside android, the sd card is recognized.
When i use the 4gb is says sdcard not available,
format of both sd cards is the same, software is the same, android is the same.
for last: ANdroid is with both sd cards working, only inside android there is difference with both cards.
My experience and from what I have seen in my threads and searching is:
1. The SD card itself may make a difference. I have had and seen comments that some makes of card do not work or work as well as others.
2. The card should be formatted externally, i.e. gparted, HP's device or whatever to FAT32
3. The installation of Android should be done by downloading the zip to your PC/Laptop and then copying to the root of your SD card, then it tends to stand more chance of working.
I can second guess someone will contradict me, but I spent 4 months trying to get it working, including working with a developer... And following some advise this is what I found was the only way to make it work.
Give it a bash, but it is what ever works for you.
PS this is only a project so whilst the OS is absolutely fantastic it does have some things that do not work or work well. Good luck
I've tried raising this in a specific ROM thread but the traffic is so heavy there it keeps falling off the list.
Stock roms are good for video streaming - silky smooth iplayer playback (with the iplayer lip sync issue that sits squarely with the BBC)
Also stock roms play streamed video from on demand site, Seesaw, 4oD even pron sites (LOL) with no poroblem.
I debranded my desore and installed latest Stock froyo rom ages ago and have been happy.
THen I ran out of space.
I've only just recently tried a proper custom rom (leoroid - the dude) with clockwork and a2sd to get some more room.
And I'm happy but video performance is poor
What are peoples video experiences, rockplayer is fine and smooth with divx etc but streamed video is failing.
THe iplayer stutter seems cyclical and regular so I think its a memory/processor allocation issue caused by a battery saving algorithm or something (I have only a passing knowledge of these things )
SO which roms have the best streaming performance?
Can I have A2SD with a stock rom? (I have just followed instructions and no tgot my head around how the chefs do it)
Please and thankyou for any help provided
Anyone?
I've searched around so this isn't a repost (other than by me)
I benched my SD card and it cam eup with
6mb write and 20mb read
Is this because of the A2SD + thing?
I thought the core services would be run internally?
Can I make it so browser and streaming dependant processes are run through the quickest chips?
Would be a shame if this can't be fixed as that means I am now not happy with my phone just when I was about to go sim only and keep this for years and years and years.
Either not enough space or no streaming of video - what a choice...
My one and only naughty bump before I let this drop and go for a different ROM
A2sd has nothing to do with it. Personally I'd recommend miui rom from miuiandroid.com. it's a fast gingerbread rom which has great features but only uses less ram. And so is very fast
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Tried another ROM (cool sense 2.1 3rd Aug) - used all ext3 prep and kernel updates suggested.
and 4oD is still not working.
Is no one else having this problem?
flash 10.3 installed.
is this because of ap2sd+ ?
or a kernel thing?
flash games from newground work, video streaming is the only thing effected.
Iplayer app works fine (well still a bit stuttery compared to silky smooth performance form stock)
so its A2SD that's causing it.
Messed up a rom flash and it knocked off my A2SD ext partition
SD card is class 6 (6MB transfer benched)
Now everything is working again but no A2SD
sorry reaper I didn't notice your post! My bad.
Turns out it was something to with alignment. I had run Cools alignment zip and thought that covered it and then after this other alignment app android identified an issue with /data folder
Through clockwork I deleted everything I could, formatted everything in sight, bought new SD card.
Leeroids latest Rom just would not stick, kept stalling during it 'POST' phase.
Cleared everything again (6th time) and once android had started it said something about iUD not matching or something /data partition , so I clear everything again, run a different alignment app and then re flashed Leeroids latest.
Hurrah! I have 1gb ext 4 partiton , a2sd AND 4oD works!!!!
I have been formatting with clockwork recovery, I think that's the problem.
My technique must be wrong, maybe i need to restart more during the process as I have been doing the same things over and over again.
What are these alignment apps doing - I create everything in gparted?
So ehm, a friend of mine has a problem with his A100...
A few weeks ago he downloaded a, shall we say, less than legal version of NFS Shift, and despite numerous attempts at downloading the Data-file seperately, he never got past the "NaN Downloading Game Data 0 of 0MB" screen.
Bummer.
After trying for a couple of days, he saw a sale on the same game, bought it and downloaded it to his phone where it works fine.
The game IS compatible with the A100, but whenever he downloads the legal version to his tablet, he runs into the same problem as before.
Instead of downloading the (legal) game data file, he can't get past the "NaN Downloading Game Data 0 of 0MB" screen, and nothing gets downloaded.
My friend assumes that the cracked version of the nfs.apk somehow blocks or replaces the legal version from working. He has tried uninstalling the cracked version and installing the bought version several times, but so far nada.
Any ideas? Is there a particular file or directory he should try to delete?
Both phone and tablet are rooted, so is it possible to just copy the full game from the phone to the tablet?
Any help appreciated!
how do you know'the games is compatiable? I have tried the same version as your friend.
It's available for download in the market app.
Also, when you go to the www market: market.android.com, you can list which of your devices an app is compatible with, and NFS shows up as compatible with the A100.
(This is the NFS released by Electronic Arts Netherlands BTW. It's been released by a couple of EA-divisions, and a version released by one company, is sometimes compatible with different devices than a version released by different companies.)
I installed the apk that was included on my G2X and it works perfectly.
You could factory reset. It kinda sucks to do just to get a game to'work.
xxx
Downloaded files still doesn't work.
I downloaded the files on an Epic 4g and then just switched the sd card into my A100, and the game still won't work. They are in the correct location but Sim City still tries to download them and doesn't see them on the card.
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I downloaded the files on an Epic 4g and then just switched the sd card into my A100, and the game still won't work. They are in the correct location but Sim City still tries to download them and doesn't see them on the card.
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The acer will not run game data off your sd card (mnt/external_sd) automatically. It has its own internal sdcard (mnt/sdcard) and that's where it stores game data. You will need to copy it in there but which exact directory I'm not so sure since I don't have the game installed. Maybe someone else can reply to that.
If you want to run from your external SDcard you need to use GL to SD app from market. Theres a thread here if you want to read more about the app.
ive been flashing some cm7 nightlies today and finally got on cm7.2. everything is running well, but it just reboots every time apps are loading from sd card.. normally i can use the phone when sd card isnt inserted, i really dont want to wipe it, is there any way to find out what app(it has to be something, because apps stop loading in the menu at some time, and then phone hangs up) is force closing everything?
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ive been flashing some cm7 nightlies today and finally got on cm7.2. everything is running well, but it just reboots every time apps are loading from sd card.. normally i can use the phone when sd card isnt inserted, i really dont want to wipe it, is there any way to find out what app(it has to be something, because apps stop loading in the menu at some time, and then phone hangs up) is force closing everything?
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Hmm... One of the reasons why a custom MTD Partition is needed. Apps on SD won't function like apps on the the internal memory. I have apps on my SD and rarely see FCs. I would advice you check your card if it is error free. Your phone shouldn't hang.
My apps have always worked perfect from SD ext, its probably a corrupt file on your SD card and could be anything not just an app, hook it up to a pc and do a disk check, see if that helps.
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i did a backup with TB, wiped data, reflashed cm7. i wanted to check which programs cause everything to FC, so i installed games first - nothing happened. so i installed rest of the apps, i mean those:
flash player
ak notepad
antutu
camera360
real drums
drums hd
convertpad
dolphin browser
elixir
fancy widgets
gg(its a communicator, i dont think so it would cause the problem)
google sky map
last fm
linpack
messenger
setcpu
sketch free
guitar solo
steam
tapatalk
wifikill
wikidroyd
youtube
yxplayer pro
zarchiver
^ what app causes all the problems? maybe you guys know which one is this, i know i can still reinstall them, but im running out of time..
I need a bit of help guys, the thing is that I'm running Pac-Rom on my LG Nitro HD because I found it to be the most stable rom
after a long trial and error period as well bricking my phone many times. I have only 1 problem on this custom rom, my apps tend to disappear for
absolutely no reason whenever the phone turns off or reboots. I've been messing around for the past 3 days trying to figure out if it's some issue
with the encrypted .android.secure folder so I installed all apps onto the onboard internal storage and deleted the folder then tried replacing all the
apps back on the SDcard hoping that would work, and it didn't. Not all of my apps disappear though, some stay on the SDCard and work perfectly
fine but games over 20-30MB will disappear and I have no clue why. My next effort would be to format the entire SDCard again because I don't
understand why these apps keep disappearing Any ways I appreciate any help, I've been googling and lurking this forum for days now haven't found
anything but a terminal command that doesn't work for me :crying:
Wow this forum is really dead huh?
so,you try to install app to sdcard, and they will disappear?
if this is the case,then make sure you sdcard is not fake. i have seen cards formatted as 16gb, but actually is only 2gb
xordos said:
so,you try to install app to sdcard, and they will disappear?
if this is the case,then make sure you sdcard is not fake. i have seen cards formatted as 16gb, but actually is only 2gb
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Nah it's not fake, I have tons of pictures, movies, and music on it as well I'm running Pac-ROM and it shows me the amount of my storage on the sdcard as well, it's just when I install the applications onto the sdcard and the phone restarts the apps I installed onto the sdcard just stay on my screen (if placed on) and when I go to tap on them it says "app not installed" :\
i've never heard of this but it sounds like some sort of bug caused the by reflashing of the partitions during reboot.
does the app get deleted from the sdcard or is the app still on the sdcard just not registered with phone?
if the app hasn't been physically deleted it's a rom issue, try the rom in my sig its based off stock but debloated with custom kernel, its very stable.
or if you have your heart set on the rom your already using, try redownloading and reflashing, don't just reflash your download file was probly corrupt. and i don't think these forums are that dead, this is just a bit of an odd issue that the average person doesn't want to guess at, i like guessing tho
if the app is physically deleted from the sdcard, i would try doing some malware/virus scans, because that would be really fishy.
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i've never heard of this but it sounds like some sort of bug caused the by reflashing of the partitions during reboot.
does the app get deleted from the sdcard or is the app still on the sdcard just not registered with phone?
if the app hasn't been physically deleted it's a rom issue, try the rom in my sig its based off stock but debloated with custom kernel, its very stable.
or if you have your heart set on the rom your already using, try redownloading and reflashing, don't just reflash your download file was probly corrupt. and i don't think these forums are that dead, this is just a bit of an odd issue that the average person doesn't want to guess at, i like guessing tho
if the app is physically deleted from the sdcard, i would try doing some malware/virus scans, because that would be really fishy.
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Well I ended up getting frustrated and downloaded Titanium Backup Pro then moved all my apps onto the SD-Card which works wonders but I decided to change my rom because Pac was using 500mb+ of my ram for system rom memory rather than the normal 200mb since Pac is a hybrid of AOKP, Paranoid Android, and CM10.1 so now I'm happy I got past the SD Card apps not being installed but now I'm having this issue. Yet I cannot even post in the development section due to my posts...
Nevermind I still have the same problem even switching through roms, I'm now running HONO Full Throttle and I'm losing all my apps whenever I restart my phone and have them all on my SD card.